what are some good sources to learn about what japanese police, military and other carry?

what are some good sources to learn about what japanese police, military and other carry? From what I read the police usually only carry that crappy 5 shot snubnose. What about other government forces?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >.38 special
    SOVL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Idk but I do know that when their Special Assault Team has NVGs and they're propped up, it looks like the ornament on a samurai helmet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ahh, SAT. First heard of them in Elfen Lied. Anyway, I heard they're HK whores. They have HK416, PSG-1, and USPs as their most used weapons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's not really surprising. SAT are the counter-terrorist unit of the National Police Agency, it'd be more surprising if they weren't in line with the rest of the worlds CT units.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's Japan's SFG/SOG. What's wild is they went almost 2 decades of operation without a single photo of them being made public and it only happened by accident when the Australian government posted that photo without their permission. Until that point most people thought they were only slightly better equipped than the regular JGSDF, so it was a bit wild when they first appeared. They are also some of the few people in the JSDF with actual combat experience as they are encouraged to attach to tier 1 PMC groups as part of their training. Now that the Aussies basically let the 2 decade old cat out of the bag, you see them a bit more on different international exercises.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Su8pfna.jpg

          That's Japan's SFG/SOG. What's wild is they went almost 2 decades of operation without a single photo of them being made public and it only happened by accident when the Australian government posted that photo without their permission. Until that point most people thought they were only slightly better equipped than the regular JGSDF, so it was a bit wild when they first appeared. They are also some of the few people in the JSDF with actual combat experience as they are encouraged to attach to tier 1 PMC groups as part of their training. Now that the Aussies basically let the 2 decade old cat out of the bag, you see them a bit more on different international exercises.

          Here is actual SAT, but SAT and SOG have done operations together, so that might be the confusion.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >5 shot snubby

    Kino and better than a shitty glock

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol this

      The only reason they don’t use glocks is because they don’t have to , literally nobody except the gangs and mobsters have guns

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'd rather carry a snubby revolver if i wasn't expected to get into an extended gunfight with tyrone and his gang of glocks or stop a mass shooter with an ar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >trying to stop multiple shooters vs one
      What difference would ar-15 make? GTFO anti gun shill fag.

      • 1 month ago
        sage

        i think he's saying that youre less likely to be outgunned in a country that doesnt have crime because it doesnt have naggers.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They actually bought SAKURA M360J (rebranded SWs) from the US as an replacement

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nice.
      though i'd rather a 5 shot .44 special

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I read about the subject recently, but didn't save the sources.So I can't give you any.

    Apparently they are used so little that most of the police who carry guns can't hit the broad side of a barn. The system works mostly by social pressure and just the dread that people have for the Japanese justice system.

    The Dread comes from the fact that if you get arrested for whatever reason, you are already fucked. Getting arrested is a career-ending and life-changing moment. Firstly, the police have very broad range of powers how to deal with you, and you are an arrested person, have very little possibility to defend yourself. If you get arrested, police can just hold you and interrogate you for something like 22 days without a lawyer being present. No, you don't get to make any phone calls. They will try to make you confess to whatever crime they come up with.

    If you don't break during those 22 days, they have to "release you", but they can immediately arrest you again for some other crime they try to pin on you. And that restarts that 22 day time limit. You can spend YEARS in that limbo, if they really want to nail you. If at any point the case goes up to court, you are pretty much fucked. Courts have like 95% quitly veredicts (the case won't go for a judge unless they are confident they have you, or if you have already confessed).

    So mostly japanese people don't commit crimes simply because NOBODy wants to deal with the justice system. If you get arrested (not even quilty veredict, just arrested) that is grounds to fire you from your job, expell your kids from their school, your landlord kicking you out and ...basically your life is over. You will need to move to another city and start over.

    continued...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      continued...

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      The guns come out only in cases where there is an axe-wielding psycho running loose. He's already fucked beyond hope, so he might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
      So japanese cops get little training time with their guns. Yes, it's just .38 revolvers for most cops. Only special teams get something more modern, like double stacked pistols. We are talking SWAT-level people and important detectives and yakuza-crime specialists here.

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      So yeah, usually japanese cops are very polite, and if they want to talk to you, they will first ask "Are you going to work" and if you are, they will just let you go. They don't want to cause problems for your employer. They will just tell you to come to the station later for an interview and let you go.

      But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into. how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.

      Guns? Not really the way japanese cops do things. Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, and Japanese system has no "get released early for good behavior" policies. If you get 5 years, you will sit 5 years.

        They don't even believe in traffic accidents. If someone causes damages, it is ALWAYS someones fault. Someone is getting arrested. That's why people in japan drive really carefully. And if an honest accident happens, people usually will try to sort it out WITHOUT calling for police. That's why you see scenes like "if you pay me now, we don't need to call for police" in manga and anime and the like.
        Sometimes just paying the guy cold hard cash is preferrable to calling in the police. Even if you know you are being fleeced.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/mYWOitN.jpg

          continued...

          So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

          The guns come out only in cases where there is an axe-wielding psycho running loose. He's already fucked beyond hope, so he might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
          So japanese cops get little training time with their guns. Yes, it's just .38 revolvers for most cops. Only special teams get something more modern, like double stacked pistols. We are talking SWAT-level people and important detectives and yakuza-crime specialists here.

          So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

          So yeah, usually japanese cops are very polite, and if they want to talk to you, they will first ask "Are you going to work" and if you are, they will just let you go. They don't want to cause problems for your employer. They will just tell you to come to the station later for an interview and let you go.

          But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into. how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.

          Guns? Not really the way japanese cops do things. Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.

          God what a hellhole

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Japan does indeed have a very strong culture of "a nail that sticks out will get hammered in". It's all designed to enforce compliance and conformity. And honestly, as long as you don't start any trouble and live your life according to accepted norms, you will have no problem. It's actually quite a smooth living.

            They will allow stuff like public drunkedness and vomiting, as long as you dont' get violent. They even help people who are found drunken on street. It's very safe environment. IF you conform to local norms.

            The moment you start doing things in unorthodox ways, step out of line, or behave in a way that does not match those public social norms, that's when trouble start. People will openly ostracize you, they will stop providing you their services, coming up with excuses why your requests have been denied, why they are revoking your rent agreenment etc. It's kinda like community-based shit-canning. And all the while remaining calmly polite about it.

            In a society like that, guns are not accepted, and not really even needed for anything. The society will "police" itself, more through peer pressure than actual police.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon how do you know all this? My only source of information about Japanese police/society is "people who eat darkness" and the whole nissan debacle. Can you recommend any books or documents for me? About real life that is, not just crime fiction. You sound really really knowledgeable

              Btw how does that all function in Tokyo where there are like billion people? Like can't you just change services, seek a new place to rent etc etc?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I really can't tell any proper sources, i have learned this over the years through a sort of cultural osmosis. But I'll give some sources in the end of this.

                I am a bit of a weeaboo, I am a social scientist and I am learning to speak japanese. So I look into things like this just out of curiosity, and have picked up a lot over the years. The politeness and social control/peer pressure is built into the language itself. With all the honorrifics, different ways of speech depending on if you are talking to someone in higher or lower social station, if you are talking to a collegue or a customer and so on.
                The way the language works reinforces this kind of thinking and peer pressure. Being impolite is almost kinda similar to "talking with grammatical errors". It makes you seem childish. "Doesn't this guy even know how to behave?! Is he an idiot?"

                And since the peer pressure and societal control are so strict, those who can't conform to it face serious hardships in their lives. That's why they have a considerable number of Hikikomori, people who lock into their apartments and never come out. Because for them, the outside world is hellish environment. They simply cut contact to the outside society.
                And of course there are the suicides. People who can't take it anymore want a way out, but seeking help is discouraged and frowned upon.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Japan
                https://www.vox.com/world/2015/12/13/9989250/japan-crime-conviction-rate
                https://www.japaneseprofessor.com/lessons/beginning/politeness-and-formality/
                https://tipsandmusings.com/peer-pressure-in-japan/
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks a bunch! Even if it's not "proper" it's a lot more other people would've bothered to share

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                so you are talking out of your ass basically just another manga reading, katana collecting homosexual.
                You werent even there.
                Japanese has one of the worst civilized cultures, basically be a bug in a bug colony

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nta, I used to be a weeaboo but marrying and moving to Nagoya gave me a huge reality check. If it weren't for animu everyone would still hate Japan cause of pearl harbor. They have 2 alphabets and still use ching chong characters in addition so that tells you enough how autistic and batshit their systems are.

                Their cigarettes are fucking based tho.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly I think the opposite is true. The average normie who's only experience with anime is "The Naruto" their kid watches doesn't think about Japan at all besides as a vacation spot they would like to visit, but never will. Most of the boomers who fought in the war are dead at this point, but you might see some generational trauma, but most functioning adults don't make it their personality enough for it to even matter for the subject to come up in day to day life. The only real anti-Japan sentiment come from contrarians who make it their entire personality because they don't like anime. They are usually pop culture WW2 historianism who try and "red pill normies" about surface level WW2 knowledge about Japan. Unit 731 has unironically become the new "did you know American's used shotguns in WW1 and it made the Kaiser mad?". "Long sword beats Katana". That sort of thing. They also try and talk about how Japan is some dystopia filled with suicide even though their suicide rate is less than the US or how their birth rate is falling even though it's better than most developed western countries.
                I work in an office setting and as a substitute teacher for both middle and high school as a side gig on my days off so I basically interact with every generation that is alive. Your average normie 20-60 doesn't give a fuck about Japan unless its vacation or some business related thing if they have some deep seated hatred of Japan it never comes up. The only people who make 1 thing their entire personality are children and I see both sides of the coin. Kids obsessed with Japan who make it their entire personality and kids who hate Japan and make it their entire personality. Both are usually incredibly cringy, but the hyper weebs are much more pleasant to interact with on average as they are passionate about things they like and just want to share their interests. The anti-Japan kids have just made their entire personality about spreading negativity.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"Long sword beats Katana"
                the whole debate has always been stupid because basket hilt is the superior sword

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The debate is stupid because swords were always secondary weapons to pole arms.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and that melee debate was always shit as bows were superior to them all and caused the most deaths on the battlefield

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >japanese longbow vs western longbow
                doesn't have the same ring to it, especially since it would be japanese high school girls vs ripped english manlets

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The bow debate was always retarded as matchlocks were much more relevant in medieval warfare and cause a much bigger change in warfare tactics than the sword or bow ever could.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >have just made their entire personality about spreading negativity
                That's many people nowadays, just with varying topics.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of the boomers who fought in the war
                >boomers who fought in the war
                >boomers
                fuck off leave retard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Their cigarettes are fucking based tho
                based japanese smokes enjoyer
                going later this year and I'm going to pick up a few cartons of softpack Lucky Strikes because they're fucking impossible to find these days.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Get a can of unfiltered peace cigarettes if they still sell them. Otherwise Seven Stars or short hope are my go to for making friends on smoke breaks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                good recs, thanks anon. Can't wait to hack some down with a hot sake in some rando izakayas

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Crank those hoons, swill some kurokirishima shochu and enjoy the times that left the western world bro.

                Also assuming you're a burger, put a bottle of suntory kakubin and a carton in your checked luggage as well as getting some at duty free. Border control only cares about meat and once upon a time I got 5 liters of booze and 3 cartons across at 19 years old, they didn't give a shit at lax but gave me hell for the expired onigiri I forgot in my carry on cause it had meat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why they care so much about meat?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mad cow or other contamination is their official reason but I'm pretty sure the us beef industry lobbied to ban imports so naturally they're cunts about food and meat but they don't bother to double check an underage kid bringing booze or smokes.

                This was like 10 years ago so it might be a bit different but if you just feign ignorance theyll leave you alone after they've gotten their pent up rage out. My Japanese aunt got caught bringing curry with meat on several occasions so she gets the special treatment now. I assume customs is underpaid, overwhelmed and just wants to go home and fap to anime titties so if you act oblivious they don't figure you're worth the effort

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I can vouch for most/all of it. I had a job in Japan working with the US Military Police, and saw a lot of Japanese legal system stuff first hand. For example, on the lengthy detentions - we told SOFA members they could be held for 29 days. I also saw a pretty good number of accident reports. The JNP will assign fault to any and all drivers involved in an accident. If your car was proveably off and in park with the parking brake on, you might only get, like, 3% fault, because you weren't driving but "you should have known to not park in that parking lot".

                As far as how socially stifling the country is, as a gaijin you will not see as much and you will probably just be happy with the high quality customer service. But if you're perceptive and/or try to integrate into the culture, you will notice how much of a straightjacket the culture is. It's absolutely insane. Lemme put it like this: there's a reason No Longer Human was written by a Japanese dude.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He doesn't know this. He's a fucking retard who bases his information off normie shit from wikipedia and an orientalist mindset of "oooo they're so compliant and they will call you childish if you make a grammatical error"
                Of course, he's a "social scientist," which necessarily means he is at the very bottom of the pecking order of academia. It's a field of idiots who don't know what they are talking about it.

                https://i.imgur.com/OrXgGeX.jpg

                I really can't tell any proper sources, i have learned this over the years through a sort of cultural osmosis. But I'll give some sources in the end of this.

                I am a bit of a weeaboo, I am a social scientist and I am learning to speak japanese. So I look into things like this just out of curiosity, and have picked up a lot over the years. The politeness and social control/peer pressure is built into the language itself. With all the honorrifics, different ways of speech depending on if you are talking to someone in higher or lower social station, if you are talking to a collegue or a customer and so on.
                The way the language works reinforces this kind of thinking and peer pressure. Being impolite is almost kinda similar to "talking with grammatical errors". It makes you seem childish. "Doesn't this guy even know how to behave?! Is he an idiot?"

                And since the peer pressure and societal control are so strict, those who can't conform to it face serious hardships in their lives. That's why they have a considerable number of Hikikomori, people who lock into their apartments and never come out. Because for them, the outside world is hellish environment. They simply cut contact to the outside society.
                And of course there are the suicides. People who can't take it anymore want a way out, but seeking help is discouraged and frowned upon.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Japan
                https://www.vox.com/world/2015/12/13/9989250/japan-crime-conviction-rate
                https://www.japaneseprofessor.com/lessons/beginning/politeness-and-formality/
                https://tipsandmusings.com/peer-pressure-in-japan/
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

                Oh look! He's talking about hikikomori as an ongoing phenomenon. I feel like I'm back in 2002. What next? "Japanese schoolgirls wear loose socks?"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >He's talking about hikikomori as an ongoing phenomenon

                https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20230331/k10014025851000.html

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Japanese schoolgirls wear loose socks?"
                go on.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It's actually quite a smooth living.
              Which is why half their plummeting population is becoming shut-in NEETs, because it's all so smooth going.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              japan does have organized crime, and they probably are the ones that get the antisocial types to work for them, which ends up working for the government in a roundabout way, much like western bike gangs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >actions have consequences, people are encouraged to resolve issues outside of the court system
            Take your meds before your PO knocks

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >indefinite detention without conviction is actually good because uh, it's based and tradpilled
              PrepHole moment

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >unironic bootlicker
              god you fags are insufferable

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Japanese system has no "get released early for good behavior" policies. If you get 5 years, you will sit 5 years.
          This should be the way it is in the US.
          Parole is bullshit. If you are convicted of a crime, there should be no leeway in the sentence.
          In cases where there might be some justification for the offense that should be taken into account and you should be convicted of a different crime, or not convicted at all.
          Punishment shouldn't be dependent on wealth, political connections, or whether you can button up and keep to yourself to half your sentence.
          At the same time prisons shouldn't be run by private corporations, you shouldn't get to pay to go to a better "prison" if you're rich, and prisons shouldn't be able to charge you a per diem that you need to pay back once you're out.
          It's supposed to be about reformation ultimately, so saddling someone with five years of debt they need to pay back as a former criminal immediately is just going to drive them back to commiting crimes in the end.
          Why is everything some shade of fucked up and dystopian in the US now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Parole is bullshit. If you are convicted of a crime, there should be no leeway in the sentence.
            >It's supposed to be about reformation ultimately,
            these statements are mutually exclusive. The idea of parole is to create a pathway by which prisoners are re-integrated into society; parolees are required to take steps which put them on to the path of employment and self-sufficiency.

            A prison cannot tell a prisoner how to live their life after they've been released. But if they're let out early on a provisional basis, the justice system can order a person to find a job, live in a safe neighborhood, and avoid contact with certain individuals, all towards the goal of reintegration.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            US correctional system relies very heavily on incapacitation, i.e., a person who is behind bars is unable to perform more crimes. A parole system is needed there because after sitting 20 years inside it's hardly a given that they can be reintroduced to society. It is ultimately extremely expensive to keep a lot of people locked in prison, which is partly why only the US has such a large prisoner population.

            AFAIK, organized crime in japan was eradicated by effectively un-personing the criminals, confiscate all possessions and make them even unable to open a bank account or have any kind of a job + constant police harassment

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > AFAIK, organized crime in japan was eradicated by effectively un-personing the criminals, confiscate all possessions and make them even unable to open a bank account or have any kind of a job + constant police harassment
              This creates an underclass that can only commit crime to get by.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but they lay low, are supported by the rest of the yakuza organization, for fear of ever going back in

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >organized crime in Japan was eradicated
              Anon...... The Yakuza is Japanese......

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and practically gutted compared to what it was

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Punishment shouldn't be dependent on wealth, political connections, or whether you can button up and keep to yourself to half your sentence.
            At the same time prisons shouldn't be run by private corporations, you shouldn't get to pay to go to a better "prison" if you're rich, and prisons shouldn't be able to charge you a per diem that you need to pay back once you're out.
            It's supposed to be about reformation ultimately, so saddling someone with five years of debt they need to pay back as a former criminal immediately is just going to drive them back to commiting crimes in the end.
            Why is everything some shade of fucked up and dystopian in the US now.

            Reddit opinion also private prisons only make up a small percent of all prisons the real reasons are kinda similar to what you said earlier but really it’s due to plea bargains allowing criminals criminals to get out earlier to commit more crimes along with activist judges and DA’s refusing to do their jobs because of muh heckkin minoritienos and because we allow people from countries with some of the highest murder rates in the world to emigrate here freely also the primate menace known as N.A.P.A S terrorizing our inner cities

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The US justice system is fucked, the by the book sentencing to crimes is often way too extreme for the actual crime due to plea deals. They jacked up the minimum/maximum years of crimes to scare people into pleading down to crimes, people pleading to crimes they did not commit because if it went to trial they could be in for 20 years or more. Most cases are resolved with plea deals.

            Another issue is that the US just has a huge criminal element and prisons are a revolving door. There is no solution other than just removing these people from society, like we need to make a penal colony or something.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, there's no corruption in glorious nippon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            who ~~*nose*~~

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Oh, and Japanese system has no "get released early for good behavior" policies. If you get 5 years, you will sit 5 years.
          Got a source for that? Because I can't find anything sayng Japan doesn't have parole system

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, they do have a parole system, but as I understand it, it kinda comes AFTER the sentence. Kinda like aftercare to make sure you are ready to reintegrate to society.

            So you first sit your sentence in full, and then you are kept on parole, with parole officers and possible "you need to take part in this activity" programs. Councelling, taking part in neighbourhood programs and such. This is especially used in cases of juvenile criminals or young people, you may spend years in some kind of after-sentence program before they let you go unsupervised.

            You can get reduced parole time on the count of good conduct, but as far as I understand, not reduced sentence time (or at least it's practically never applied to prison sentences)

            https://www.moj.go.jp/content/001345372.pdf

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe it isn't granted often, but it looks like parole does involve shortened sentence

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, they probably have the legal framework for reducing sentence time (or somehow trading jail time for increased parole time), but it's likely used super rarely. To the point where people say stuff like "yeah, that doesn't really happen. You go in, you sit the whole sentence. Reduced sentence is a unicorn.".

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Wasn't a japanese person, but I remember a Singaporean(?) chick in an interview, forget what she did. She noted how at first she was disappointed coming to the US for how run-down shit is compared to the old country, but quickly fell in love with it for how lacking in totalitarian conformity it is. Few things out of some somali shithole situation are a zero sum all good or all bad trade.

              isn't all that shit just edo romanticism? once 'samurai' became a hereditary title and not just a position

              Same shit as reducing the entirety of the medieval period to the late medieval flowering of chivalry by Victorian historians because "Well there were knightly equivalents in Charlemange's day and also in Philip the Good so they were all that way.

              https://i.imgur.com/pfooEw4.jpg

              Nta, I used to be a weeaboo but marrying and moving to Nagoya gave me a huge reality check. If it weren't for animu everyone would still hate Japan cause of pearl harbor. They have 2 alphabets and still use ching chong characters in addition so that tells you enough how autistic and batshit their systems are.

              Their cigarettes are fucking based tho.

              Pearl harbor is brought up the same way any old grievances are when they have been dead and buried - as a modern cudgel for some modern issue. Same way Greeks don't give a shit about Germany 70 years ago but when the debnt crisis happened all of a sudden it was relevant. Or aside of leaf shitposting 1812 is an afterthought in the US but if we had some major tension with Canada suddenly there'd be calls to avenge the white house.

              Weebism has become more mainstream, so there'll always be a like of Japan. But if not for anime, games, or anime adjacent things it'd be like South Korea in popular mind (excluding BTS or whatever they're called) = tech place, conformity, salaryman agony.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Japan is different cause they don't acknowledge ethnically cleaning Manchuria and Korea. I'm a asiaticnagger living and working in worst korea and I hate the bug society but people are way less cunty and passive aggressive. They're just openly aggressive when you piss them off, and acknowledge how shit work life balance is here and try to change shit but Japan thinks they're better than everyone else. If you piss off a Japanese person they just get quiet and polite and take it out on some kyabajou after work.

                Also Koreans are happy for international recognition and are kind to foreigners, Japan treats them as a nuisance.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >So you first sit your sentence in full
              Wrong. You can get paroled early. Usually about 2/3 of the full sentence. However it's not a statutory system. In practice, it's not common to be paroled, but people absolutely can and do get paroled based on their behavior. Page 23 of your own link shows this.

        • 1 month ago
          OP is a brownoid

          >They don't even believe in traffic accidents.
          Man shit sounds rough. How they handle things during the 90's Japanese drifting era though?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Oh, and Japanese system has no "get released early for good behavior" policies. If you get 5 years, you will sit 5 years.
          Wrong. They have a parole system. How do I know this? My wife's uncle was paroled after murdering somebody.
          >They don't even believe in traffic accidents. If someone causes damages, it is ALWAYS someones fault
          HAHAHAHAHA Speaking as a guy who has had traffic accidents, you're delusional.
          > Someone is getting arrested
          HOLY SHIT You're killing me. I've been in 5 (five) accidents, and nobody got arrested.
          >people usually will try to sort it out WITHOUT calling for police.
          My insurance guy would scream at me if I did that. utter delusion. Yeah, some people try that, but it basically invalidates every claim you have and if they claim against you, you are FUCKED.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Since you have relevant experience, is it true that it's very rare for accidents to have a 100% fault assigned to one side?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Since you have relevant experience, is it true that it's very rare for accidents to have a 100% fault assigned to one side?
              If you dispute it, then yes, it's very rare to get 100% fault. But if you admit full fault to skip the rigmarole then it happens. Otherwise there's this whole annoying negotiation with the insurance companies. One time my wife admitted partial fault for an accident that another person 100% caused because the other woman was a total cunt who was trying to hold out for my wife to admit 100% fault (the other woman reversed into her). The other woman then vandalized her car after that because she didn't get her way. My wife couldn't prove the previous woman was the vandal to the cops, so she bluffed and left a note on the cunt's windshield that she had video evidence that she put the nails under her tire. She then sold her car and any time my wife has seen her since then the woman literally runs away lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >My wife's uncle was paroled after murdering somebody.
            based and storyworthy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds gay as shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies

        Lmfao LDP propaganda got you good, Japanese history is full of brutal cruelty, constant backstabbing and blatant corruption.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Reading comprehension isn't your thing, is it?

          Yes, samurai times were incredibly brutal, backstabbing and corrupt. But it also was almost ritualisticly polite, and cared a lot that things were done "according to etiquette".

          That was the whole point. Even if you were dealing with someone who was very clearly your enemy, there was a kind of "gentlemanny behavior" that was expected. You bow and greet even the people you hate from the bottom of your heart, because if you don't it is swords out and someone is going to die.
          This kind of court etiquette was expected, and NOT abiding to it was seen as a sign of unsophistication and barbarism. Everybody agreed to behave nicely, all the way to the point where at open warfare. At which point they would slaughter you, your family, and burn your house.

          It was, in it's own way, a method to limit the brutalism. An extra step that had to be taken, before slaughter begun. As long as everyone was polite, you knew you were in the clear. They may declare war on you tomorrow, but for now you are still at peace.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >japan was good n polite boy who dindu nuffin
            +100 yen deposited in your account

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ritualisticly polite
            If you're a fucking lying bastard piece of shit that is only acting nice because you have to its nor being polite, it's coerced behavior that you are constantly trying to break free of, it's social slavery.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            isn't all that shit just edo romanticism? once 'samurai' became a hereditary title and not just a position

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              pretty much all of it is edo propaganda, in the hay-day of the samurai was literal ultra civil war that was known as the worst period to live in japan. it was only in the edo period where the samurai were busy writing poems about themselves, then the later post meji era where those same samurai families who were no military officials wrote about their families, was the "honorable Samurai" idea came as a standard for all samurai

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe
        They're not. People call the police all the time without concern.
        >But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into.
        True
        >how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.
        Oh no they're out to get you and send you to jail forever because... they just like doing it.
        >Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.
        Gay as fuck characterization of samurai. They were knights, pure and simple. Just instruments of state power who did as they were told. How nice people were didn't mean shit. They carried out orders.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/mYWOitN.jpg

      continued...

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      The guns come out only in cases where there is an axe-wielding psycho running loose. He's already fucked beyond hope, so he might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
      So japanese cops get little training time with their guns. Yes, it's just .38 revolvers for most cops. Only special teams get something more modern, like double stacked pistols. We are talking SWAT-level people and important detectives and yakuza-crime specialists here.

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      So yeah, usually japanese cops are very polite, and if they want to talk to you, they will first ask "Are you going to work" and if you are, they will just let you go. They don't want to cause problems for your employer. They will just tell you to come to the station later for an interview and let you go.

      But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into. how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.

      Guns? Not really the way japanese cops do things. Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.

      As someone that doesn’t break the law, this sounds like a utopia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if they can indefinitely arrest you with no evidence and cut off your access to legal council, then it doesn't matter whether or not you break the law

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          All legal systems necessarily have subjectivity, friction, and inaccuracy involved. No system is omniscient. The different is where the culture and designers choose to locate the inevitable subjective choices, errors, and injustice.

          America does it in the plea bargain part of the process. Japan does it at the pre-arrest phase.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They can effectively put people they don't like in solitary confinement for 20 days straight, completely cut off from the outside world, feeding them nothing but a small portion of rice and fish heads once every day. And they can do it over and over until they break and just admit to whatever trumped up bullshit charges, just because people want to get it over and done with.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn’t break the law
        I mean i am not going to steal, rape or sell drugs but i would still be wary about
        >Getting in a traffic accident
        >Getting attacked by someone (If self defense laws are anywhere as bad as gun laws)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Until they think you did.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        japanese police are known to be corrupt and often find reason to make examples out of people for no other reason than to scare everyone else

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They're under ~~*massive pressure*~~ from the US to mass import naggers then stand aside while they nigout. Japan has fallen.
        http://landofthesettingsun.com

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >japanese people don't commit crimes simply because NOBODy wants to deal with the justice system
      They don't commit crimes because they aren't low inhib naggers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/mYWOitN.jpg

      continued...

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      The guns come out only in cases where there is an axe-wielding psycho running loose. He's already fucked beyond hope, so he might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
      So japanese cops get little training time with their guns. Yes, it's just .38 revolvers for most cops. Only special teams get something more modern, like double stacked pistols. We are talking SWAT-level people and important detectives and yakuza-crime specialists here.

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      So yeah, usually japanese cops are very polite, and if they want to talk to you, they will first ask "Are you going to work" and if you are, they will just let you go. They don't want to cause problems for your employer. They will just tell you to come to the station later for an interview and let you go.

      But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into. how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.

      Guns? Not really the way japanese cops do things. Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.

      You forgot the corruption part where elitism let's you out if daddy is rich enough. Lovely corruption yum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/mYWOitN.jpg

      continued...

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      The guns come out only in cases where there is an axe-wielding psycho running loose. He's already fucked beyond hope, so he might as well go out in a blaze of glory.
      So japanese cops get little training time with their guns. Yes, it's just .38 revolvers for most cops. Only special teams get something more modern, like double stacked pistols. We are talking SWAT-level people and important detectives and yakuza-crime specialists here.

      So since everyone is scared stiff for the justice system, everyone plays it safe. Usually if dealing with police, the police will be courteous and civil about it, they don't want to cause you any hassle. But if you become annoying or start resisting, they know they can fuck you over in so many ways, they don't even need to use their guns.

      So yeah, usually japanese cops are very polite, and if they want to talk to you, they will first ask "Are you going to work" and if you are, they will just let you go. They don't want to cause problems for your employer. They will just tell you to come to the station later for an interview and let you go.

      But if you become violent, they will usually just try to catch you by wrestling or non-violent meants. Man-catchers and the like. That's where most of their training time goes into. how to subdue people in ways that they can be arrested and sent to jail for ever.

      Guns? Not really the way japanese cops do things. Kinda like in ancient times the samurai were all polite and courteous and civil and behaved nicely even amongst their enemies... Because everyone knew that if someone STOPPED being nice, it was straight to decapitation.

      https://i.imgur.com/0b4D0rW.jpg

      Oh, and Japanese system has no "get released early for good behavior" policies. If you get 5 years, you will sit 5 years.

      They don't even believe in traffic accidents. If someone causes damages, it is ALWAYS someones fault. Someone is getting arrested. That's why people in japan drive really carefully. And if an honest accident happens, people usually will try to sort it out WITHOUT calling for police. That's why you see scenes like "if you pay me now, we don't need to call for police" in manga and anime and the like.
      Sometimes just paying the guy cold hard cash is preferrable to calling in the police. Even if you know you are being fleeced.

      https://i.imgur.com/Gq7CkL6.jpg

      Japan does indeed have a very strong culture of "a nail that sticks out will get hammered in". It's all designed to enforce compliance and conformity. And honestly, as long as you don't start any trouble and live your life according to accepted norms, you will have no problem. It's actually quite a smooth living.

      They will allow stuff like public drunkedness and vomiting, as long as you dont' get violent. They even help people who are found drunken on street. It's very safe environment. IF you conform to local norms.

      The moment you start doing things in unorthodox ways, step out of line, or behave in a way that does not match those public social norms, that's when trouble start. People will openly ostracize you, they will stop providing you their services, coming up with excuses why your requests have been denied, why they are revoking your rent agreenment etc. It's kinda like community-based shit-canning. And all the while remaining calmly polite about it.

      In a society like that, guns are not accepted, and not really even needed for anything. The society will "police" itself, more through peer pressure than actual police.

      https://i.imgur.com/OrXgGeX.jpg

      I really can't tell any proper sources, i have learned this over the years through a sort of cultural osmosis. But I'll give some sources in the end of this.

      I am a bit of a weeaboo, I am a social scientist and I am learning to speak japanese. So I look into things like this just out of curiosity, and have picked up a lot over the years. The politeness and social control/peer pressure is built into the language itself. With all the honorrifics, different ways of speech depending on if you are talking to someone in higher or lower social station, if you are talking to a collegue or a customer and so on.
      The way the language works reinforces this kind of thinking and peer pressure. Being impolite is almost kinda similar to "talking with grammatical errors". It makes you seem childish. "Doesn't this guy even know how to behave?! Is he an idiot?"

      And since the peer pressure and societal control are so strict, those who can't conform to it face serious hardships in their lives. That's why they have a considerable number of Hikikomori, people who lock into their apartments and never come out. Because for them, the outside world is hellish environment. They simply cut contact to the outside society.
      And of course there are the suicides. People who can't take it anymore want a way out, but seeking help is discouraged and frowned upon.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Japan
      https://www.vox.com/world/2015/12/13/9989250/japan-crime-conviction-rate
      https://www.japaneseprofessor.com/lessons/beginning/politeness-and-formality/
      https://tipsandmusings.com/peer-pressure-in-japan/
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

      good god, is this what black americans feel like when around cops?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The system works mostly by social pressure and just the dread that people have for the Japanese justice system.
      uh that usually how its suppose to be, the system shouldnt work because the police are a goverment death squad
      >So mostly japanese people don't commit crimes simply because NOBODy wants to deal with the justice system
      yeah people shouldnt commit crimes, good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The Dread comes from the fact that if you get arrested for whatever reason, you are already fucked.
      lmao no. Ask my friends who have been arrested.
      >Firstly, the police have very broad range of powers how to deal with you, and you are an arrested person, have very little possibility to defend yourself
      It's not that different from America.
      >If you get arrested, police can just hold you and interrogate you for something like 22 days without a lawyer being present.
      If you are charged, you have the right to a lawyer. Without charges, the prosecutor is going to be breathing down their neck every step of the way in that process. They have to continuously report what they are doing and they can be liable in civil courts for damages if they are fucking you around.
      >If at any point the case goes up to court, you are pretty much fucked.
      You've skipped the fact that almost no criminal charges actually go to court. If it's not a slam dunk, the prosecutor will have you acquitted.
      >So mostly japanese people don't commit crimes simply because NOBODy wants to deal with the justice system
      People commit crimes here retard. I have family members with criminal records.
      >If you get arrested (not even quilty veredict, just arrested) that is grounds to fire you from your job
      True,
      >expell your kids from their school
      Where did you hear this? This would not stand in a constitutional court
      >your landlord kicking you out
      Doubt. Close to impossible without going through an entire legal rigmarole.
      >and ...basically your life is over. You will need to move to another city and start over.
      If you're a decent person. If you're a scumbag, you won't give a shit and you will keep being a shithead drain on society until the prison system gets hold of you and whips you into shape.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've heard this is the standard for Jap cops:
    >5-round S&W
    >modified to be single-action only
    >cylinder has a mark to index on a specific chamber
    >first chamber is empty, second chamber contains a blank, only the last three chambers have actual bullets

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >revolver with a lanyard
    kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Locks to the officers belt so no one can run off with the revolver, and the officer and accidentally leave it somewhere..

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not exclusive to japs and predates they're use of guns to a large extent

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for clarifying that the leather strap has been around for a long time… now why do you think they put it on police revolvers?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The japs copy Europe and adopt as much gay shit from them as possible

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >The japs copy Europe
              you what? Their current style of government was forced on them by the yankies, and most of europe has far less retarded gun laws than japland.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit. My man still hasn't left the Edo period. No spoilers, the Meji restoration and it's consequences are gonna blow your tits off.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the name of that Jap movie where some kid is falsely accused of fondling a female pedestrian on the subway and is put in jail until he can go to trial? Good movie that people in this thread would like.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JAV is the name of that movie

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hmm let me just google this movie called "JAV"........

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        man, this thing got a lot of sequels! it must be good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I Just Didn't Do It (2006) I don't remember much about it, but it was infuriating to watch

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >crappy
    >it's the most accurate .38 service revolver ever produced

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They brought these over to America for a little while but they're pretty unremarkable iirc. It either stopped with the '68 GCA or the same crackdown that ended the export of Howa AR-18s.
    We almost got Japanese M1 carbines too but in the mid 20th century they quickly realized that'd be a selling ice to Eskimos situation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What were they called when they were imported? I want one

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuzas are getting newer Chinese shit nowadays apparently. Vast majority of them use 1911s. Fuck ton left in stockpiles. Japanese police I can’t say anything not already said.
    FINE AMERICAN STEER
    FORGED 1 TIME
    2000 TURF WARS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      apparently Chinese 1911s are pretty nice on a base level if you have a gunsmith to smooth them out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd take a forged Norinco over some flip or huezilian potmetal abomination ngl

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Imbel 1911s were pretty good

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The military still uses type 64’s but in very limited roles seeing as their battle rifles

    They still use surplus type 89’s but thier slowly phasing them out for a scar 16 clone they adopted

    They use hk vp9’s and a sig p220 variant but are beginning to mostly phase out the sig pistols

    They use fn minimi’s and are still using type 62 light machine guns but again only in limited roles compared to the fn lmg’s

    They are using m24’s but are phasing them out for hk417’s

    They have their own Uzi copy but they figured out pretty quick that subguns are an obsolete meme and are typically only using them in limited roles

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