What advantages do CATOBAR aircraft carriers have over STOBAR aircraft carriers?

What advantages do CATOBAR aircraft carriers have over STOBAR aircraft carriers?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CATOBAR carriers are before STOBAR aircraft carriers in the alphabet

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CATOBAR can launch and recover fixed wing AEW assets, cargo planes, and aerial refueling planes. STOBAR carriers lack all of these basic capabilities and are pretty much just less capable LHDs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Soviets built fixed wing AEW for their stobar carriers. The US uses toltroters for COD now, you can use toltroters for all those roles you mentioned. LHD's have almost no free space below deck, they can't operate jets at any kind of tempo and they can't juggle two tasks at once. They are a tier below purpose built STOBAR and STOVL carriers. It will largely come down to jets though, the soviet union ended before any good OPFOR designs appeared.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You live a sad live chink

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s true. Chink carriers are more capable than the British carriers. Make of that fact what you will

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s true. Chink carriers are more capable than the British carriers. Make of that fact what you will
        all they can do is say "implessive" and call you brown
        thats literally it
        they have to go back to reality afterwards, and thats when the stool+rope comes out

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          implessive brown post

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its for when you want to actually use your carrier to do things.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you first airmen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's airman, singular
      imagine being a britbong and still struggling with the english language

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >imagine being this new

        Two more weeks?

        >Two more weeks?
        literally on this one^

        What about may 20th?

        >What about may 20th?
        pic related

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do you expect us to decipher your autistic metaphors? just type it out

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >do you expect us to decipher your autistic metaphors? just type it out
            ukraine could get a new speaker of parliment, thats all, no big deal
            small deal, even

            ziggers gonna zig, as usual

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hi helmettard, still seething, i see?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >every poster is warriortard
    This psyop is running out of steam

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the entire /k/ script is coming to its conclusion
      by ~may 20th, this place will be on an entirely different page, one way or the other lmfao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two more weeks?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about may 20th?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Armatard lasted a couple of years and I think the warriortard posting is coming up on a couple years now. I wonder who the next board villian will be

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The advantage is that you will look for an excuse to post the same shitty chink ships at the same time every day.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >STOBAR
    Cheaper, if you can't find the money for a real carrier you can get this instead.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Micro peen human drones or the local fart huffer, pick your poison because either of them are cancer on /k/.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are cancer on /k/.
      but enough about you airmen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The most recent study (published in 2016) of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).
      incels out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >5.33
        Implessive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah see i don't understand why anyone obsesses about dick size considering that my gf is small as frick and i can easily hit her cervix with slight effort while only being like 6.1 inches
          trust me you do not want that, girls do not actually find that fun

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've hit the IUD wires on some girls, not fun to get stabbed in the dick and come out bleeding

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >5.33
        Implessive.

        may we see the penis's?
        who did the measuring?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A highly respected expert on the phallus conducted the hands-on study.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is one of those studies where mode average would actually be useful

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that young woman keeps koreans safe from the barbarians in the north
      American men could learn a lesson or two from her about patriotism

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey Chang, make sure you turn the saturation to maximum before you post that new picture

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      may we see the british carrier at sea?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can see both

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          date?
          current status?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That particular image is 2021 when QE was on her maiden operational deployment and PoW was on sea trials. There are images of them both at sea in the same location from more recently but I don't have them saved.

            PoW is in port after completing NATO exercises last month and due to go back to sea for SRVL trails shortly. QE is getting a shaft replaced and will probably be back at sea some point in the summer, I don't know what her next deployment is scheduled to be. Here is a picture I took of her at the weekend.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >PoW is in port after completing NATO exercises last month
              completed nato excercises?
              are you sure about that?

              also, is she for sale?
              asking for a friend

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >completed nato excercises?
                >are you sure about that?

                Yes, Joint warrior and steadfast defender.

                >also, is she for sale?
                >asking for a friend

                You can buy the design like Korea seems to be doing but she's not for sale.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                howd she do?

                did the f35's have fun?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think PoW carried many F-35's for those operations, maybe 8. Partially to keep jets avalible for training new pilots and partially because she was operating in the commando/amphibious role in those operations so there were marines and their helicopters on board.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a helicopter carrier with a ramp
                if the PoW and QE lined up bow-to-bow do you think a bong could jump a jaguar across the gap like dukes of hazzard?

                why did the bongs build a ramp for helicopters?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the ramp is for planes and the flight deck is so vast they have more than enough space for helicopters. These things can happily operate multiple Chinooks above and below deck despite the fact that the blades don't fold.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because the ramp is for planes
                does it have planes?
                if so, how many?

                how often do they fly?
                can they fly?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They can fly without even turning into the wind. And while replenishing. Vertically and horizontally. Literally every other navy can't do this, we went to the south China Sea and did it just to remind Chang that there's more to navies than numbers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >uk flex's by launching 6 empty planes in 4 at once, before the main prop caught on fire, and the boat had to be dry-docked for a year
                real bong' hours

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who's in dry dock for a year? CDG again? She's just been unavailable for 8 months, spent 85% of her life in port.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Who's in dry dock for a year?
                uk navy mostly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Our ships spend more time at sea than all of Europe and most of Asia. Why are you so upset by brits?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the thames river drydock is now the sea

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >howd she do?
                1138 deck landings from 13 types of aircraft of which 60 were Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landings from F-35s

                and that was just Stateside in 2023

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >conventionally powered
    Why bother?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is all this frog seethe because they only have the one carrier or because their carrier is now the smallest catobar in the world?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks like its mostly bong seethe,
      because their carrier alternates being unstaffed, drydocked, or on fire, with really no inbetween

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't see any bong seethe, I see presumably you asking dumb stuff and then getting the correct answer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How many deployments has USS ford gone on since it was commissioned 7 years ago? One, and a shortened one with a partial air wing at that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >How many deployments has USS ford gone on since it was commissioned 7 years ago? One, and a shortened one with a partial air wing at that.
          >with a partial air wing at that.
          dang^

          what happened to its air-wing?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >After years of delays, the Navy plans to deploy the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier at a multi-national exercise this fall, officials announced July 13.

            >The flagship of the Navy’s newest class of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers will have a “partial air wing” when it sets out to sea later this year, said Vice Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, commander of the Naval Air Forces, during a Center for Strategic and International Studies and U.S. Naval Institute panel discussion.

            It only took hornets with it, F35C isn't cleared for EMALS ops yet as reliability is a problem still.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >F35C isn't cleared for EMALS ops yet as reliability is a problem still.
              so why doesnt it just take of vertically instead?

              its literally easier that way, cheaper, looks cooler, is less complex, requires less space, does MUCH less stress to the airframe (frick off arrestor cables) and is overall much easier for the pilot to manage

              i see literally no downsides to the f35 fleet operating as VTOL from carriers, as rule, not an exception
              >pic related
              what thirdies dream of laying in the dirt each night

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Might want to read Wikipedia before posting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Might want to read Wikipedia before posting.
                ill leave that to the experts, thanks
                >pic related
                its how firsties take off

                lol literally imagine ramping your jet off a boat like some kind of thirdie,
                imagine not knowing how a bent straw works, or a 'vectored nozzle'

                [...]
                USS ford wasn't designed to operate F35 so needs conversion work done unlike the QE class which were purpose built for F35 ops.

                >USS ford wasn't designed to operate F35 so needs conversion work done
                lmfao, what?????

                >gerald ford, laid down 2008, commissioned 2017
                >F35, first flight 2006, in service 2015

                gif related to your post
                lmfao, how was that allowed to happen?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                (this is a post online but it gives you the jist)
                >The Ford started construction in 2005, the first prototype F-35A (the C even later) didn’t roll out until 2006. The Ford was commissioned 2 years before the F-35C was declared as having reached Initial Operating Capability. So, the Ford could not be designed or constructed to support the F-35C from day one because too little was known about F-35C operating requirements to do so.

                You could write an essay on the delays and issues with Ford and F35 procurement. It'd be a long way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the C variant isn't VTOL. That's the B variant which the USMC operates. The USMC actually operates both B and C variants. I'm pretty sure the reason why the navy doesn't use the F-35B is because it has less range, and much less range in a full combat load. So there isn't a reason why the navy would use the F-35B, especially for a problem that will eventually be rectified.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because the C variant isn't VTOL
                so just put the nozzle on it ffs, were not some thirdie nation that needs 20 years to go from paper to production model, shits not even hard

                >I'm pretty sure the reason why the navy doesn't use the F-35B is because it has less range, and much less range in a full combat load. So there isn't a reason why the navy would use the F-35B, especially for a problem that will eventually be rectified.
                ok so rectify the problem, and put more gas in the f35B

                get this through yuor brown brains

                >VTOL=firstie
                >everything else? = thirdie
                how hard is this to understand

                white peoples planes take off vertically, and land the same
                brown peoples planes need an x-games ramp or a fricking overglorified implessive slingshot

                do you see this picture?
                this is shit that makes thirdies go apoplectic
                they literally start chimping out and doing cartwheels and shit when they see it, like the sentinalese island people when they saw a ocean survey ship

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is almost a moronic as the fact that we had two different threads on how the J-20 has the ability to deploy a parachute and how this of itself is evidence of it being a terrible design.

                But of course, the F-35 has a parachute too because it is a useful way to land on shorter runways.

                VTOL comes with compromises.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >VTOL comes with compromises.
                yes the compromise is this:

                >"my jet is a VTOL: therefore it is white and "good"
                vs
                >"my jet needs an x-games vert ramp: therefore it is brown and bad"

                its really that simple, "white" jets take off vertically, and land the same, standard firstie stuff even

                meanwhile, thirdie jets have to spread their diarreah wings and careen off the edge of a ship and pray the wind catches them like some kind of 80iq genius
                >pic related, for the brown thirdies at browsing from the hovel

                >the J-20 has the ability to deploy a parachute and how this of itself is evidence of it being a terrible design.
                lmfao, case and point^
                >the thirdie jet cant into vertical landing, and must fricking parachute to the ground like its market garden 44'

                everyone who wont post hands look at my image
                everyone who is implessive look at it
                everyone who is brown or whos shit flows like the gannnnnnnnnnnnnnges, look at this image

                to a thirdie, this is like gazing into a hyerdimensional, multi-core quantum computers core and seeing "whiteness" at its atomic level

                an act of complete and total realization of superiority/inferiority, that has universal implications

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                helmettard, why do you harm yourself with these meltdowns? this is seriously cutting into your life expectancy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because he has nothing else. But I don't think that's him, he hates the F-35

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                get a frickin life warriortard

                >much less range
                only 20% less
                the more serious problem is that it can only carry 6 large weapons instead of 4 as it can't fit Sidekick

                https://i.imgur.com/mw7zV0C.jpeg

                >Because the C variant isn't VTOL
                so just put the nozzle on it ffs, were not some thirdie nation that needs 20 years to go from paper to production model, shits not even hard

                >I'm pretty sure the reason why the navy doesn't use the F-35B is because it has less range, and much less range in a full combat load. So there isn't a reason why the navy would use the F-35B, especially for a problem that will eventually be rectified.
                ok so rectify the problem, and put more gas in the f35B

                get this through yuor brown brains

                >VTOL=firstie
                >everything else? = thirdie
                how hard is this to understand

                white peoples planes take off vertically, and land the same
                brown peoples planes need an x-games ramp or a fricking overglorified implessive slingshot

                do you see this picture?
                this is shit that makes thirdies go apoplectic
                they literally start chimping out and doing cartwheels and shit when they see it, like the sentinalese island people when they saw a ocean survey ship

                surely you're trolling

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Less payload, range and you can't launch AWACS without catapults or arrestor gear

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can't launch AWACS without catapults or arrestor gear
                thirdie shit anyway, imagine thinking the F35's radar cant do awacs for itself and everyone else, all while target cueing for the loyal wingmen

                >Less payload, range
                literally not a problem, its called "aerial refueling" and its something firsties commonly do

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dumb post

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >After years of delays, the Navy plans to deploy the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier at a multi-national exercise this fall, officials announced July 13.

            >The flagship of the Navy’s newest class of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers will have a “partial air wing” when it sets out to sea later this year, said Vice Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, commander of the Naval Air Forces, during a Center for Strategic and International Studies and U.S. Naval Institute panel discussion.

            It only took hornets with it, F35C isn't cleared for EMALS ops yet as reliability is a problem still.

            USS ford wasn't designed to operate F35 so needs conversion work done unlike the QE class which were purpose built for F35 ops.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoop.
      The wakes of the mid and right hand ships are identical.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >25% larger aircraft complement despite being 50% larger
      >100% of that aircraft complement is foreign
      lol indeed

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lots

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aircraft can take off with me more fuel and payload

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