I transferred from the Army and got sent to my first actual nerd unit with them. Shit was ridiculous at first, anime stickers and air fresheners in every car, UWU stickers on the doors to the office, and dudes with waifu tan undershirts
What the frick. That's deeply unsettling, why do the officers allow this? I could understand pin-up art of scantily clad classic Western comic book heroines or something, but that quasi-pedophilic asian stuff comes across as unfit for an adult soldier's age, and unpatriotic as it's of foreign origin. There should be disciplinary action and mandatory 3D woman stripper nights or something to correct this.
This fact upsets me on a spiritual level. I want to live to see us conquer the galaxy for it is man's birthright to be the sole ruler of the milky way. My conquest is the sea of stars
>We have another 50-100 years until we start seeing the space force in space
I mean at least one space force officer has already been to space, performing some classified Space force related research aboard the ISS
I'm a leftist who wants free college and rent money and I still understand that the Space Force is simply a rebranding of departments that already existed under the Air Force and doesn't actually represent new capabilities or increased spending beyond the usual extra hundred billion or so the DoD gets every year anyway.
Space force is really fricking gay. Its the chumps from Chair Force who track station keeping activities and pretend to be a critical part of launch, orbit, and recovery activities. The real deal spooky dooky space shit is all NRO baby, and there's a very real fricking reason most people don't even know they exist.
NRO just operates the spy sats. USSF defends said satellites from ASAT or space-to-space attack. Different missions. Also, most of the US doesn't even realize the space force exists.
isn't it the most boring branch? >Army gets cool tanks and artillery and Green Berets operator >Navy gets cool ships, Submarines and navy seal operators >Air Force gets cool airplanes and pararescue operators >Space force gets to sit in a chair and watch satellite data all day. Has no cool special operators. Do they even shoot any guns after basic training?
You won't be laughing when you realize the space force is meant to operate the 6th+ generation of stratospheric bombers and fighters.
Manned Air force will be obsolete in 10 years. Drones will replace them all. Pilots will all flock to the space force
AF is dumping all the COMINT and SATNAV and etc on them, NORAD is going to be their henhouse, they will nominally oversee strategic space initiatives although like always DoD will get the hookers and cocaine and SF will get the paperwork
Basically anything the AF hates doing and any other random shit other branches hate doing.
they will eventually dominate the strategic landscape because as
points out we will be, not if, or maybe, but will be doing the majority of our coordinated strategic movements via space. We're already doing like 80% and that was just the easy lifts like datalink and secure comms.
This not rocket surgery, every other developed country has had a space force for quite some time and we desperately needed one, unfortunately stealing the Star Trek badge and Cheeto gave it a lot of bad press
Lol, you know nothing of aircraft.
If you think you can fully rely on remote control/long range data transmission during a war you’re moronic.
On their own, drones are useful for asymmetric warfare against enemy with no (or poor) ew capabilities - as soon as there is some jamming things go to shit.
That’s why for the most part, the drones we will see will be mostly of loyal-wingman type, providing support for manned aircraft while being close to them. The more ‘independent’ uavs will remain as a tool for fighting against a lesser enemy.
Most people also overestimate what ai can do - we are very far from having a system that can make complicated decisions on their own. For the next few decades, drones will remain commanded and closely overseen by humans. Furthermore, even when such technology will eventually be there, I think it’s unlikely it will be let off its leash much because of moral concerns - I wouldn’t be surprise if in the future some conventions would limit its use.
>FAA obstruction
Without all the regulations it would be even bigger mess than it already is. Think of satellites crashing into each other in a domino effect, rockets crashing into residential areas. Aerospace needs regulations to prevent wide scale havoc.
Just folding them back into the air force where they belong will do fine. I don't believe in having a space force until people actually start shooting at each other up there.
chairforce doesn't want them, they've been trying to jettison all the non-Wild Weasel shit from their doors since forever. Flyboys hate technology that doesn't make them look good and hate spending money on anything other than their dinosaur plans
>Trump did it so it must be baaaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!
Dumfrick, do you really think he just woke up one day and said, "We need a SPACE FORCE! And I'm the President so no one can stop me!!!"
You probably believe Trump sits around all day watching the Gorilla Channel in between getting Russian hookers to piss on the bed.
It was split off because it's a niche organization with responsibilities to ALL of the other services, and leaving it stuck inside the Air Force meant "muh interservice rivalry!" bullshit from the morons who still think it's all a high school football game.
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/949100087350710272 > Wow, this extract from Wolff’s book is a shocking insight into Trump’s mind:
[see picrelated]
I pictured the Halo 5 guardian before remembering that’s their actual fricking name. Rip space rangers/space marines/Spartans/sentinels/anything fricking better
They should have used naval rank conventions instead of copypasta AF ranks. If they don't watch out other branches are going to bypass them and buy Starship landers. I could see the Marines pulling a stunt like that.
>Space Force is made from Air Force personnel. >NAVY throws a b***h fit about the ranks being Army/Air Force instead of Navy >Real life spacecraft are more like aircraft than naval ships.
Feels good to dab on them and their shit fiction.
You don’t really need/want much crew in space.
It’s very costly and complicated to provide for people in space - you want to limit that to a minimum. Any (small) crew for military spacecraft would be there to oversee all the automated stuff - it would be there mostly only to command the craft from there in case communication with the ground would be lost and it cannot be controlled remotely. Apart from that - repairs maybe, but with current state of things once there is enough demand some kind of remotely controlled (by crew) robot would probably be a better option.
This has actually gotten me wondering. If there was a catastrophic nuclear exchange between the United States and Russia, what would the crew of the ISS do? Right now, there are four Americans, five Russians, plus an Italian manning the station.
Would they start fighting each other? Would there be any way for them to get home on the Space Plane/Soyuz even if Russian and American Mission Control centers were destroyed in the exchange? Or would they be left adrift in space until life support systems finally ran out, watching helplessly as the Earth is blanketed in mushroom clouds?
I think they will wait a bit in hopes of someone communicating with them then if all hope is lost they or at least most of them would try to get down to the planet purely for survival because dying in space isn't very appealing
Who would be capable of communicating with the ISS? Just the space agencies of various nations? Or could some amateur astronomer with a HAM radio guide them home?
From left to right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Space_Warning_Squadron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/533rd_Training_Squadron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schriever_Space_Force_Base
Not sure why the shapes fluctuate. Some existed long before the Space Force so maybe they opted to keep some elements of their emblem design.
i remember. the powers that be really dont want anyone talking about capabilities. china is the same way. the only reason we get anything about russia is because of all the leaks and info drops from america.
Probably trying to come up with new ways of intercepting ICBMs and developing ways of damaging enemy electronics and cyber infrastructure. I'm sure they also have some more "fun" projects in the pipeline.
Oof. That is pretty rough. It is pretty odd how the Space Force has some incredible aspects such as the iconography or delta organisation and then just totally falls flat in other aspects, such as the uniforms, GUARDIANS™ and now that anthem.
I know that the modern military (especially the space force) is attempting to push a much more 'soft' image. But would it really be to much to ask for an anthem of a military service branch to have some snare drums, woodwinds and lyrics that actually reference conflict and war? I'm not exactly asking for 'Battotai' or 'Die Wacht am Rhein' here, just something that is actually going to inspire people.
all you need to know is SDSS J1148+5251 is a shithole, you sit around filing logs and eating MREs because they closed down the McDonald's thanks to fricking "downscaling of operations"
A lot of sitting in chairs staring at numbers on a screen, a lot of bullshit meetings, and more on-duty masturbation than you'll find anywhere outside of a camgirls bedroom. >t. knower
Wouldn't you like to know terrestrial
Just give me one xeno frickbuddy, I promise I won't tell anyone, pretty please help a brother out
nerds
im not kidding, 90% of them look like the nerd emoji
>t. got to help move chairs and stuff into their office
Riding a desk to infinity and beyond
Lots of alien buttsecks at fridays and this
>I never thought I'd see a ResUOHHHnance cascade, let alone create one
I'm not okay with that picture.
why?
What's the name of this anime girl? I keep seeing her.
Satellites mostly. Also the X-37 hanging out in space doing god knows what for a few years at a time.
It definitely isn’t carrying nukes.
glow taxi to the homie moon base
I transferred from the Army and got sent to my first actual nerd unit with them. Shit was ridiculous at first, anime stickers and air fresheners in every car, UWU stickers on the doors to the office, and dudes with waifu tan undershirts
What the frick. That's deeply unsettling, why do the officers allow this? I could understand pin-up art of scantily clad classic Western comic book heroines or something, but that quasi-pedophilic asian stuff comes across as unfit for an adult soldier's age, and unpatriotic as it's of foreign origin. There should be disciplinary action and mandatory 3D woman stripper nights or something to correct this.
Shut it boomer, waifus are the modern pinup girl
Officers don't have a choice when you're an O-3 and they're a GS-15
It's like the airforce but more queer.
>T. Former airforce gay assigned to space Force base.
How... How is that possible?
It's like the difference between traps and trannies.
>you will never shoot aliens
This fact upsets me on a spiritual level. I want to live to see us conquer the galaxy for it is man's birthright to be the sole ruler of the milky way. My conquest is the sea of stars
Goddamn that emblem is kino.
aliums
Meme
Just a branch of the air force that focuses on satellites. We have another 50-100 years until we start seeing the space force in space
How about troposhpere aircraft?
>We have another 50-100 years until we start seeing the space force in space
I mean at least one space force officer has already been to space, performing some classified Space force related research aboard the ISS
I support the Space Force because it really upsets leftists who want free college and rent money.
I'm a leftist who wants free college and rent money and I still understand that the Space Force is simply a rebranding of departments that already existed under the Air Force and doesn't actually represent new capabilities or increased spending beyond the usual extra hundred billion or so the DoD gets every year anyway.
Leftists are all moronic homosexuals
Kys
Epic space to space warfare.
No you can’t see it.
Space force is really fricking gay. Its the chumps from Chair Force who track station keeping activities and pretend to be a critical part of launch, orbit, and recovery activities. The real deal spooky dooky space shit is all NRO baby, and there's a very real fricking reason most people don't even know they exist.
NRO just operates the spy sats. USSF defends said satellites from ASAT or space-to-space attack. Different missions. Also, most of the US doesn't even realize the space force exists.
isn't it the most boring branch?
>Army gets cool tanks and artillery and Green Berets operator
>Navy gets cool ships, Submarines and navy seal operators
>Air Force gets cool airplanes and pararescue operators
>Space force gets to sit in a chair and watch satellite data all day. Has no cool special operators. Do they even shoot any guns after basic training?
You won't be laughing when you realize the space force is meant to operate the 6th+ generation of stratospheric bombers and fighters.
Manned Air force will be obsolete in 10 years. Drones will replace them all. Pilots will all flock to the space force
AF is dumping all the COMINT and SATNAV and etc on them, NORAD is going to be their henhouse, they will nominally oversee strategic space initiatives although like always DoD will get the hookers and cocaine and SF will get the paperwork
Basically anything the AF hates doing and any other random shit other branches hate doing.
they will eventually dominate the strategic landscape because as
points out we will be, not if, or maybe, but will be doing the majority of our coordinated strategic movements via space. We're already doing like 80% and that was just the easy lifts like datalink and secure comms.
This not rocket surgery, every other developed country has had a space force for quite some time and we desperately needed one, unfortunately stealing the Star Trek badge and Cheeto gave it a lot of bad press
Lol, you know nothing of aircraft.
If you think you can fully rely on remote control/long range data transmission during a war you’re moronic.
On their own, drones are useful for asymmetric warfare against enemy with no (or poor) ew capabilities - as soon as there is some jamming things go to shit.
That’s why for the most part, the drones we will see will be mostly of loyal-wingman type, providing support for manned aircraft while being close to them. The more ‘independent’ uavs will remain as a tool for fighting against a lesser enemy.
Most people also overestimate what ai can do - we are very far from having a system that can make complicated decisions on their own. For the next few decades, drones will remain commanded and closely overseen by humans. Furthermore, even when such technology will eventually be there, I think it’s unlikely it will be let off its leash much because of moral concerns - I wouldn’t be surprise if in the future some conventions would limit its use.
they haven't even been around for three years yet. give it time
I think they're taking over launchpad security for US launch sites and bases.
Unironically space lasers
Being a 1D for the Air Force made me hate weebs. I can't imagine how dark things are in the Space Force.
Space knower here
Not alot right now. Like other said its mostly sat watching
Shit might change once starship is up and flying
>Shit might change once starship is up and flying
Get on Dementia Joe to stop wiener-blocking SpaceX through FAA obstructionism.
Little known fact, but Sleepy Joe himself is keeping daddy Elon from saving humanity. Day in, day out.
>FAA obstruction
Without all the regulations it would be even bigger mess than it already is. Think of satellites crashing into each other in a domino effect, rockets crashing into residential areas. Aerospace needs regulations to prevent wide scale havoc.
Pic related. In 100 years. If you're lucky.
It should be disbanded to both save money and spite Trump.
And you should be launched into the sun.
Just folding them back into the air force where they belong will do fine. I don't believe in having a space force until people actually start shooting at each other up there.
chairforce doesn't want them, they've been trying to jettison all the non-Wild Weasel shit from their doors since forever. Flyboys hate technology that doesn't make them look good and hate spending money on anything other than their dinosaur plans
Current administration certainly don't mind Space Force despite their outward politics, so i don't think it's happening.
>Trump did it so it must be baaaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!
Dumfrick, do you really think he just woke up one day and said, "We need a SPACE FORCE! And I'm the President so no one can stop me!!!"
You probably believe Trump sits around all day watching the Gorilla Channel in between getting Russian hookers to piss on the bed.
It was split off because it's a niche organization with responsibilities to ALL of the other services, and leaving it stuck inside the Air Force meant "muh interservice rivalry!" bullshit from the morons who still think it's all a high school football game.
wait what's the gorilla channel?
You never saw the Gorilla Channel stuff?
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/949100087350710272
> Wow, this extract from Wolff’s book is a shocking insight into Trump’s mind:
[see picrelated]
Leftards actually believed this was real.
oh it's just BET
That's major chad energy
It's a given Trump paid russian hookers to pee on a bed, the fact you're obsessed with it doesn't help.
They are helping to take inflation figures into the lower earth orbit.
Unironically orbital weapon development. Best guess.
i found out today there's a specwar division of space force.
i'm pretty sure it's like a 5 guardian team that supports actual operator types by making sure the GPS works.
I pictured the Halo 5 guardian before remembering that’s their actual fricking name. Rip space rangers/space marines/Spartans/sentinels/anything fricking better
They should have used naval rank conventions instead of copypasta AF ranks. If they don't watch out other branches are going to bypass them and buy Starship landers. I could see the Marines pulling a stunt like that.
>we will never satisfy the masculine urge to kill aliens
>Guardians
Why in the frick did they pick this? Why not Spacemen?
>Space Force is made from Air Force personnel.
>NAVY throws a b***h fit about the ranks being Army/Air Force instead of Navy
>Real life spacecraft are more like aircraft than naval ships.
Feels good to dab on them and their shit fiction.
Real spaceships will have to operate more like navy than airships though once crew sizes expand.
You don’t really need/want much crew in space.
It’s very costly and complicated to provide for people in space - you want to limit that to a minimum. Any (small) crew for military spacecraft would be there to oversee all the automated stuff - it would be there mostly only to command the craft from there in case communication with the ground would be lost and it cannot be controlled remotely. Apart from that - repairs maybe, but with current state of things once there is enough demand some kind of remotely controlled (by crew) robot would probably be a better option.
sssssssssatellite tassssssssssking mosssssssstly
definitely no lizardssssss
>What actual goes on here space bros?
Officers collecting paychecks and doing frickall
What is the purpose of having the buttons off-centre? Does it help GUARDIANS™ in the vacuum of space?
https://history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf
It's called STYLE, anon. You should try it, chicks dig it.
>what do you mean, I have to wear breast badge over my breast?
>that's sexist!
>pervert!
>behold, belly badge
>I'm so smart
Cybersecurity, intelligence, and satellite
Pretending you're on Star Trek.
Finally an excuse to speak Klingon at work.
Nothing the air force wasn't doing prior.
GOOLD?
I wish
Space skirmishes between the US and Russia when?
>Space skirmishes between the US and Russia when?
This has actually gotten me wondering. If there was a catastrophic nuclear exchange between the United States and Russia, what would the crew of the ISS do? Right now, there are four Americans, five Russians, plus an Italian manning the station.
Would they start fighting each other? Would there be any way for them to get home on the Space Plane/Soyuz even if Russian and American Mission Control centers were destroyed in the exchange? Or would they be left adrift in space until life support systems finally ran out, watching helplessly as the Earth is blanketed in mushroom clouds?
I think they will wait a bit in hopes of someone communicating with them then if all hope is lost they or at least most of them would try to get down to the planet purely for survival because dying in space isn't very appealing
Who would be capable of communicating with the ISS? Just the space agencies of various nations? Or could some amateur astronomer with a HAM radio guide them home?
Man I remember thinking this was moronic even as a teenager with no concept of space.
there's just no adversary that can project power like america, so the space force gets to sit on it's ass until someone rises to the challenge
>kojima predicted it
la creatividad...
Are all of these Space Force or just the rightmost?
I thought all their patches were shaped in a diamond like the one on the right.
From left to right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Space_Warning_Squadron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/533rd_Training_Squadron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schriever_Space_Force_Base
Not sure why the shapes fluctuate. Some existed long before the Space Force so maybe they opted to keep some elements of their emblem design.
The 533rd needs work, but the other two are cool.
> so maybe they opted to keep some elements of their emblem design.
Looks to be it.
Does anyone remember this
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/08/pentagon-posed-to-unveil-classified-space-weapon/
then they changed their minds afterwards. they never show us anything cool huh
i remember. the powers that be really dont want anyone talking about capabilities. china is the same way. the only reason we get anything about russia is because of all the leaks and info drops from america.
Money sink. Nothing actually happens there.
>t. have to do their accounting
Probably trying to come up with new ways of intercepting ICBMs and developing ways of damaging enemy electronics and cyber infrastructure. I'm sure they also have some more "fun" projects in the pipeline.
*crack* *sip* just a smoke screen for all the spooky skunk works stuff thats been around for decades that won't see the light of day ever
They just came out with their anthem.
Oof. That is pretty rough. It is pretty odd how the Space Force has some incredible aspects such as the iconography or delta organisation and then just totally falls flat in other aspects, such as the uniforms, GUARDIANS™ and now that anthem.
I know that the modern military (especially the space force) is attempting to push a much more 'soft' image. But would it really be to much to ask for an anthem of a military service branch to have some snare drums, woodwinds and lyrics that actually reference conflict and war? I'm not exactly asking for 'Battotai' or 'Die Wacht am Rhein' here, just something that is actually going to inspire people.
all you need to know is SDSS J1148+5251 is a shithole, you sit around filing logs and eating MREs because they closed down the McDonald's thanks to fricking "downscaling of operations"
Gay as the navy but genuinely the deadliest branch of the four(coasties don't count). Shame we only get remembered for getting your car from A to B
A lot of sitting in chairs staring at numbers on a screen, a lot of bullshit meetings, and more on-duty masturbation than you'll find anywhere outside of a camgirls bedroom.
>t. knower