What about this rifle makes gen-x Reddit dads seethe so much?

What about this rifle makes gen-x Reddit dads seethe so much?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The last SOVL service rifle.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      look at these disgusting Ziggers terrorizing the natives

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Soulless and impractical cost-cutting butt stock made for ambidextrous grunts who are too dumb to care. No cheek piece and it slopes toward your face causing the comb to smash your face. Slip-and-slide buttpad. No palm swell.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >brazen, incendiary claim
    >appeal to tribalism
    >will almost certainly mass-reply to everyone after 5 minutes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You wouldnt reply to a boring thread either anon

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isn't very good

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Front heavy, rare mags comparatively speaking, kinda shit on the reliability end... Out of the box accuracy on my Norinco M-14 clone was alright though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Front heavy,
      >has a 13 pound cuck AR and posts about it
      zoomers

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wish my state didn't ban them I really want one

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because they either can't carry or shoot it accurately.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even the men who were issued them couldn't carry them, that's why they were replaced

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Even the men who were issued them couldn't carry them, that's why they were replaced

        By your logic, they should have replaced the M-60 "PIG" as well.

        Ever read a book, or better yet, talk to anyone that was issued one? Stop parroting things you read or hear, without doing your own research to verify. Not doing so makes you sound very, very uneducated. You can do better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon the biggest complaint about the pig was that it was fucking heavy as shit. Emphasis on why it's called " the pig". With that barrel swaps were finicky as shit and cumbersome.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, they did replace it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >By your logic, they should have replaced the M-60 "PIG" as well.

          Anon I...

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What about it makes people who don't even own one whiteknight for it so much?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally a WW2 relic that tried to larp as a Cold War rifle.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's american=>bad. European made rifles are inherently better because they are European.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no the M14 was shit because it was designed by REMFs who were too concerned with drill and not concerned enough with killing enemies.
      The AR-10 should have been adopted with an all steel barrel like Stoner wanted and in .270 British.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The most common bitch I hear is "It's too heavy", followed by "Too much recoil". Personally, I don't fucking care. I have a blast when I shoot mine.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I recently shot one supported off a bag from 150m. It was a pretty fun contrast to the boring old .223 ARs I'm used to shooting.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like mine. Idgaf what zoomers or larpers think.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too Kino for this timeline

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      VGH.... THE JVMP BELT... WHAT COVLD'VE BEEN...

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest complaint I have is that the rifle was already irrelevant in 1958, the FAL, G3, AK47 and other stamped steel rifles already existed and showed the army the future. They wanted to keep the M1 Garand or at least the silhouette of it alive. It was a service rifle adopted mostly for aesthetics and patriotic necessity.

    The m1 garand wasn't even that good; terribly inaccurate after a few thousand rounds, heavy and extremely maintenance intensive. It was good for a very short period until like 1951.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vgh... imagine the M1 Garand being kept until the late 1970s-1980s like the MAS-49 or L1A1...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey now, the fact that the M1 was a standard issue semi-auto was a big deal. Nobody else (at least nobody major enough I can think of) started the war with a semi-auto rifle as standard issue, and by the end of the war they still hadn’t fully adopted them as default.
      Whatever the M1 loses out in accuracy at distance it gains by allowing troops to fight better at medium or close range than their counterparts.

      The M14 was just retarded though. The Soviets had already developed the 7.62x39 by the end of the war and that really should have shown the way towards intermediate calibers in the west immediately to replace the M1.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Soviets almost did with the SVT but decided to go full enemy at the gates when they got invaded

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's more like they had no choice but to, they lost the main production of the SVT to the Krauts and honestly the PPSh and PPS-43 were better infantry weapons overall.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >and honestly the PPSh and PPS-43 were better infantry weapons overall

            Lolno unless we're fighting door to door in a city.
            The SVT is the shit, Krauts loved them because they weren't IQ 75 churkas and could actually figure out the maintenance of a weapon that consisted of 5+ parts.
            t. owns all three

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Hey now, the fact that the M1 was a standard issue semi-auto was a big deal. Nobody else (at least nobody major enough I can think of) started the war with a semi-auto rifle as standard issue, and by the end of the war they still hadn’t fully adopted them as default.
        I don't think he is complaining about the Garand in the 40's, that is why he said it was "already irrelevant in 1958" instead of just irrelevant. You see, when it comes to ground breaking new weapon that gives you a big advantage, there is often a penalty for being the first through the door before the concept of said weapon has fully matured. You may invest in building a massive stockpile of something only to find it outdated 5 years later.
        Take the Soviet's pioneering the IFV, 10 years ahead of everyone else and now, the Russians are stuck with the BMP which is cramped, lightly armored and half of them have this god awful rocket cannon. It would have performed amazingly compared to NATO APC's if they went to war in 1970 but they didn't and they ended up on the back foot for it. As for the Bradley, still pretty relevant 40 years later because it was designed when the concept was fully matured.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > FAL
      > AK pre-1959
      > Stamped Steel
      Ok retard. The M14 had shortcomings compared to its contemporaries but not because it wasn't made from stamped steel

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what is type 1

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >AK47
      Retard

  16. 1 month ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    It's been discussed to death already but.

    >Screwed NATO out of an intermediate or semi-intermediate cartridge.
    >Screwed NATO out of standardizing on one rifle, which would probably have been the FAL.
    >US Ord Board Fuckery.
    >QC issues.
    >Thrown into a conflict where intermediate calibers made way more sense.
    >Action is open so pretty vulnerable to sand/mud ingress.
    >Kludged into DMR role because it's available, but still a kludge.

    Although as a series of counter-points.
    >It's not clear if 280 British could have done what 7.62x51mm and 5.56mm do combined.
    >FN's refusal to license the FAL in Germany would have split NATO adoption of the FAL anyway.
    >FAL has a ton of it's own flaws and limitations.
    Personal opinion, but I think the FAL is an overall inferior rifle to the M14. This is from actually owning and shooting both.
    >Can hold up in mud/dust up to a point. Not as vulnerable as inrange tv makes it seem.
    >Accuracy issues are also highly exaggerated by match shooters who are trying to get 1/4 MOA groups out of their rifles and tearing hair out doing so.

    Overall the M14 is a good rifle, provided that it is built correctly. It's a dated design, since it's basically a product improved Garand and is prone to a lot of tolerance stacking (screw up one thing and the knock on effects screw up 5 other things on the rifle).
    But it is reasonably reliable, accurate, ergonomic (albeit traditional), not too difficult to maintain and not particularly hefty or poorly balanced as far as battle rifles go. Most of it's flaws can be attributed to being a battle rifle, and most of the "flaws" that people screech about the loudest are vastly exaggerated for views by guntubers.

    Is it the best rifle? No.
    Is it outdated? Yes.
    Is it the worst rifle ever made? You would have to be delusional to believe it is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not the worst rifle ever made, but it was an inferior choice to either a FAL or an intermediate caliber. As I acknowledge you noted, I just wanted to emphasize.

      The fact that the M14 was supposed to replace the M1 Thompson, M3 Greasegun, M1 Garand, sniper M1 Garand, BAR, M1903, and M1 carbine is what kind of kills this whole thing for me.

      It was unsuitable to replace the SMGs, BAR, and arguably the M1 carbine and sniper roles. Either the military should have scaled back what they wanted it to do, and introduce complimentary weapons in the roles the M14 wasn’t good at, or they should have dropped the M14 entirely for an intermediate caliber. Given that the AR-15 came along as was able to fill out more of these roles we can see the folly in trying to make the M14 a do everything rifle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The fact that the M14 was supposed to replace the M1 Thompson, M3 Greasegun, M1 Garand, sniper M1 Garand, BAR, M1903, and M1 carbine is what kind of kills this whole thing for me.
        This is what you get with government, one size fits all mindset. The same mindset that gave us the Bradley and F-35. Spend billions upon billions of dollars to try to compete with specialists, and then shove it through anyway when it can't match up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Brad and F-35 are good though, you retarded bonobo. Stop sucking Pierre Sprey's dick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The same mindset that gave us the Bradley and F-35. Spend billions upon billions of dollars to try to compete with specialists, and then shove it through anyway when it can't match up.
          Anon watched pentagon wars

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    xoomers hate everything boomers like by default.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Misconception. We don't hate things boomers like, we just hate boomers. I've never even heard an opinion on M-14s from any of my gen-x friends, but if saying we hated M-14s was guaranteed to make a boomer seethe I'd probably say it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        As you should. They stole everything from you

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gen z and it makes me seethe because it's not a tanker w scout scope and 10 round magazine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day, zigger

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What, stfu my M14 config is objectively best, I will get a faster sight picture for snap shooting than iron sights (or anything but a red dot) but with at 7x I'm as good as a sniper at all practical ranges

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have no argument for your clunker M14 with the slow to acquire target sights and the 20 round mag sticking out all retarded

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the M21 looks cool 🙂

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's just kind of crap, but it has a cult following that insists it's the greatest rifle ever invented and it had absolutely no peer. Kind of like the katana, or the FAL when FAL kits were all the rage, or the 1911 during the same time period.
    Hell, the modern Browning BAR/FNAR/Winchester whateverthefuck that's evidently popular in Europe as a hunting rifle is better than the M14 is literally every single objective metric, and I think it looks better, too.
    I wish it was better, because I think loading via clips is this shit, but it's obnoxiously heavy for no benefit, and will never ever be sub-MOA.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's just kind of crap, but it has a cult following that insists it's the greatest rifle ever invented and it had absolutely no peer.
      I feel like this reputation has a lot to do with the M-16, everyone here knows what a shit show the roll out was, the absurd reasons behind it and why it doesn't reflect badly on the modern AR's as a whole. However back then there were still a bunch of advocates for returning to the M-14, 7.62mm rifles and even the hunting rifle aesthetic, so the M-14 got lionized as the correct alternative to the underpowered, unreliable plastic toy made by Mattel. The AK-47 also got the same treatment, its reliability and simplicity got taken to absolute meme levels in comparison to the M-16. These opinions didn't evaporate with adoption of the M16a1 and a2 and hung around as fairly mainstream for 30-40 years.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best rifle ever made.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gen-x Reddit dads seethe so much?
    Gun Jesus said it sucks so now the gunnit crowd parrots his "criticisms" of it

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