What a terrible strategy? Why would they waste cruise missiles hitting Oinkie reserves and military equipment?

What a terrible strategy? Why would they waste cruise missiles hitting Oinkie reserves and military equipment? NATO would just send more, while civilians irreplaceable. good luck waiting 18 years for a person to grow.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >British intelligence
    Not reading lmao

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok vatnik

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok boomer

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      okay booker vatnik

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody cares vatBlack person

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I gotchu senpai

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ayy

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Defence Intelligence, ISW, Oryx and Bellingcat are easily the most reliable sources for conflict news and they’re also the ones which ziggers completely dismiss off hand, curious.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        For secondary sources, H I Sutton (CovertShores), Andrew Perpetua, Dara Massicot, Julia Davis for translated propaganda funnies, etc. are also worth a look.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Atp geopolitics on youtube and the malcontent news podcast also.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      u r gay lamo

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can't hit frontline positions due to AA saturation
    >don't have the volume to make infrastructure / power worthwhile target, plus its not winter anymore
    >hitting grainstores and food production infra not economically viable and will piss of African friends
    >scared of the leos, challys and bradleys
    >even a 10% reduction in their number could be the difference between line collapsing in 1 area vs 3

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest thing is that this war has shown is that Russia's real time ISR and decision making is complete garbage. By the time they spot something worth targeting and run it up the chain to organize a strike against it whatever it was is long gone.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Their ISR is garbage even for the frontline. There is literally no way they can spot and hit anything of value that wasn't bolted to the ground 30+ years ago.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >even a 10% reduction in their number
      What the frick are you talking about lmao? With their intelligence and accuracy they can hope for 0.01% at most. This is primarily why they hit power infrastructure in the first place. They knew they can't hit anything connected to military for shit.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically I'm pro Ukraine as it gets but the last sentence is moronic.

    It prioritizes military necessity over avoiding civilian collateral?

    It's a war, that's based and efficient, not inefficient. Inefficient would be not maximizing military utility to prevent enemy civilian deaths.

    If it's true that they use the missiles sensibly against military targets, that's good for Russia. Luckily they are morons and this change comes when they are 90% out of missiles.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Perceived" military necessity, anon, and what that means is Russia doesn't know, but rather guess (often using ancient maps) where something of military value might be and launches a whole ass missile barrage based on dubiously educated guesses

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Perceived Military" makes that whole line sound like British sarcasm, or a thinly veiled insult at best.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's percieved, not actually of importance. It's the sort of shit Russia does in war. They think striking flat blocks in cities creates moral problems and is thus a military solution to be dommed by big Ukie wiener.
        Same as when they were trying to freeze civilians to death through bombing/occupying power stations and it did nothing because Ukies are also slavs and compensated by using western resources rather than relying on the eastern ones.
        Also a good case of

        russia targets things in the following manner
        >comrade putin had demanded a cruise missle strike! pidor! get me targets!
        >yes comrade jerkov!
        >*rummages through 30 year old maps of old soviet infrastructure because they can't be bothered to use google maps and don't have intel from inside current ukraine*
        >launches missiles at what they think is an old soviet warehouse, engine plant, lumber yard, and rail station
        >but the warehouse and engine plant are apartment blocks, the lumber yard is a public park and the rail station is an elementary school now

        because Russians are moronic and because they haven't really advanced in the past 30 years then the Ukies, who are poorer, must not have advanced either.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which is what it is. It's alluding to the ancient map thing without saying it.

        Which might mean the ancient map thing is bullshit idk

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >War crimes are based
      Somehow i doubt you're actually pro-Ukraine

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Wasting your precious missiles to hit a bunch of apartment blocks because one of them might contain the secret HATO bunker is based and efficient.
      Those morons could have at least tried to hit some bridge or airfield instead.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s sarcasm
      >inefficient targeting
      >perceived military necessity
      They’re saying that the vatniks were actually trying to hit military shit but are so fricking moronic they completely missed everything

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      "Perceived Military" makes that whole line sound like British sarcasm, or a thinly veiled insult at best.

      Because it's percieved, not actually of importance. It's the sort of shit Russia does in war. They think striking flat blocks in cities creates moral problems and is thus a military solution to be dommed by big Ukie wiener.
      Same as when they were trying to freeze civilians to death through bombing/occupying power stations and it did nothing because Ukies are also slavs and compensated by using western resources rather than relying on the eastern ones.
      Also a good case of [...] because Russians are moronic and because they haven't really advanced in the past 30 years then the Ukies, who are poorer, must not have advanced either.

      We really must understand everything Russia does is through a fricked up Muscovite perspective of master vs slave. Everything they do is from that perspective, from trying to stop food getting out, to blowing up energy facilities during the winter to try to freeze them out/have people get upset enough they give up, to randomly firing at a city and blowing up apartment blocs.
      They are so fricking blinded by their master/slave prison culture that they actually believe they could turn the people against the government or war by inconveniencing or killing them.
      They're used to being able to hit weaker people and having that person revert to their slave mentality and say "Oh master, what do I need to do to get you to stop hitting me?", then proceed to get dedovshchina'd.
      It is precisely this lack of imagination that is causing them issues on the front. They cannot be creative because every interaction is "Ah, we just need to do X and they will be in fear and bow to us." You guys think the "We will raise our eyebrow and they will know" was just a meme? They meant it. They actually thought a flex would make Ukraine piss its pants and bend over, not realizing everybody in the west sees it as the pathetic shit it actually is.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ty

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based understander of the Russian soul.
        This can't be said often enough. Russians are not like us, their entire culture works on completely different base assumptions.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Knower post

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia says it has weapons 30 years ahead of NATO. It says its missiles are better, more powerful, accurate and not interceptable and controlled by the highly skilled Russian armed forces. So we're left with two possibilities when they hit the apartment building with missiles killing kids.

      1. The apartment building was the target
      2. They don't have super accurate missiles used by superior trained soldiers

      Therefore seeing as Russia claims they have superior missiles with fantastic pin point accuracy it has to be assumed they deliberately targeted the apartment building. Hence 'perceived military necessity'.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would say it mainly has to do with my last post

        The biggest thing is that this war has shown is that Russia's real time ISR and decision making is complete garbage. By the time they spot something worth targeting and run it up the chain to organize a strike against it whatever it was is long gone.

        . Their ISR is complete garbage so they have to resort to striking static civilian infrastructure targets with outdated information.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      8/10
      You're getting (you)s, i'm jelly.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        man i fricking love tsugumomo, great manga, wish we got more animated seasons for it.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hitting power stations didnt work last time, they didnt freeze to death as expected
    >now spring/summer.
    >change strategy and hit random commie blocks/civilians around shitty towns
    I don't get it. Whats the point?
    For example, pic related is the big oil refinery in Sevastopol hit today by "hohol drones" why russians arent doing the same shit with their hypersonic and cruise missiles?
    Today/last night russia just killed 25 civilians. Wnhats the fricking point.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians are losing on purpose to show goodwill to the Ukrainian peoples.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I honestly don’t think they have the wherewithal to rebuild any crucial economic infrastructure, so if they destroy say every oil refinery in Ukr and then somehow managed to pull out a win, they’d inherit scorched earth with no productive value.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cobble together a few missiles over a few months
      >Fling them at anything and everything vaguely in the enemy's direction
      >Claim whatever you happen to hit was a vital military objective resulting in the death of at least 47 HATO generals on Twitter
      >Rinse and repeat Q2-3 months when you have produced enough missiles again to lob then indiscriminately at more civilians.

      There will he another Russian missile spam sometime around mid June to early July if the pattern holds.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    russia targets things in the following manner
    >comrade putin had demanded a cruise missle strike! pidor! get me targets!
    >yes comrade jerkov!
    >*rummages through 30 year old maps of old soviet infrastructure because they can't be bothered to use google maps and don't have intel from inside current ukraine*
    >launches missiles at what they think is an old soviet warehouse, engine plant, lumber yard, and rail station
    >but the warehouse and engine plant are apartment blocks, the lumber yard is a public park and the rail station is an elementary school now

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >google maps
      Western trick to fool good honest Russians into hitting civilian targets. Nyet, paper map is fine.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called terror bombing and is universally despised as something only monsters and sadists do. Historically speaking it is n open question as to if it works at all, most would point to Hiroshima and Nagasaki but the Japs were going to surrender anyway so it's impossible to quantify the effect it had

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those aren't terror bombings. They were a weapons demo.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but the Japs were going to surrender anyway
      no they fricking werent

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hope ukronazis bomb moscow on may parades asiatic mutts deserve this

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia operates an inefficient targeting process
    >inefficient

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The leaks showed that Oryx was at least somewhat accurate.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The frick are you talking about moron? Oryx is literally the bottom line of Russian losses.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's implying that the real numbers are actually higher you blockhead. "Bottom line" is a questionable term to use, though.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hohol IQ again?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hohol IQ again?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not disputing that it's generally reliable concerning documented losses. Just laughing at the whole sentence.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would they waste cruise missiles hitting Oinkie reserves and military equipment? NATO would just send more
    the goal would be to take advantage of the window where they don't have enough equipment

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >1 year of SMO
    >billions of rubles spent at research and propaganda
    >Everything vatniks can do to deny Oryx reliability is to start seething

    Your post is an evidence of Oryx reliability, though you imply the opposite.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/SalmelaJS/status/1652311896660254722

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  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You guys are reading this wrong ... it's a mix of British "humor" and politeness.

    They are saying that they are scratching their heads trying to figure out what the frick the Russians were aiming at.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. It's Britain saying they know WHAT the Russians are aiming at but can't place WHY they are aiming at due to better targets for those munitions existing.
      Early on, they were bombing power stations and relays to frick with production and create civil unrest, which makes sense. Now they are bombing residential areas with expensive munitions like cruise missiles despite there being nothing worth hitting nor was there anything worth hitting back in the USSR days.
      It's neither humour or politeness. It's just legitimate confusion as to what the frick Russia is doing with its "better" toys when it could be hitting infrastructure like they did early on.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. Read it again and again until you understand what 'realistic possibility' means.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want this guys comment on it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Either he won't say shit or on the off chance he does he'll call it a "cowardly move by Ukraine."

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can just tell you what he'll end up saying eventually: that murdering civilians is "uniquely brilliant" and "classically Russian" strategy that deprives the enemy of fighting power by removing potential recruits before they can be trained, equipped, and sent to fight.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Call me crazy but I think those targets will actually have even more AA.

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