>even older than the tank vid
vatniks are truly sad creatures
2 years ago
Anonymous
not as sad as the piggys that insist they are winning despite continuously losing chunks of their country and never retaking them.
Donetsk, Lugansk, The Crimea. All gone, never to be reclaimed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought Crimea has always been russian clay
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even disregarding your various "goodwill gestures" and "feints" that your side has so courageously fled, the Ukrainians have taken back several bits and bobs in the north and south. They have a better chance of taking back Crimea than Russia has of becoming a respectable nation within the next century. cry about it some more, weakling.
>haha dumb hohol, I show you we have many meme >BEHOLD the second meme I own!
2 years ago
Anonymous
thats not a meme, those are your dead countrymen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Explain this image to me
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hohols hanging out >see tank with big fat Z painted on it coming right at them >do nothing because they assume its a "captured" tank >get BTFO by point blank range Tank fire. >all recorded on video
2 years ago
Anonymous
Suffering from success I guess, it’s not their fault that earlier on gypsy farmers captured dozens of machines and thought this was another one
2 years ago
Anonymous
>from success
you can talk from a place of strength when you actually own and control 100% of your territory. you just sound like a god damn clown right now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Stalingrad wasn't a success because the Germans still controlled a lot of territory.
>monke >2 weeks >cauldron >- Z >gloves come off >veh deh veh >copium >abandooner
Every aspect of your entire fricking invasion is a joke, except for the rampant warcrimes you commit in response to being publicly nationally emasculated.
remember when the war first started and russia blew up all their airports in like 1 hour and they were all hiding in elementary schools and shit the next day because they were afraid of getting blown up? kek
why is the next option after an airport a fricking elementary school? aren't there literally dozens of types of other buildings to use before you say "hey lets make our HQ where children learn!"
>aren't there literally dozens of types of other buildings to use
Such as? Schools are perfect because they're large, organized structures with a lot of open interior space (cafeterias, gyms, auditoriums, etc). And it's not like school is in session so there are no civilians. They're also all over the place.
It's why schools are used as shelters for natural disasters and emergency services.
Yes, put soldiers were civilians actually are during war time. Not the school, that's where the heckin' children aren't are since school isn't in fricking session during a war.
So if children aren't in the schools why do hohols cry so much when russians blow up the schools being used as bases?
everytime a school gets exploded theres a plethora of piggies screeching 'noooo how could they do this!! those poor kids!!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Source? The only time I here ukies getting upset is when Russian precision missiles hit fricking hospitals, apartment buildings and nursing homes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah, because they lose a command post every time that happens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm sure you would say that. I can see where this conversation is heading and I'm not going to play your game.
You're asking for a source thats next to impossible to find because its buried in the archives from last time russia struck a school weeks and weeks ago.
Next you'll say "ha no source? typical vatnig" because I can't meet your impossible requirements. Why don't you go back in the archives and show me how calm and collected hohols were when russians blew up schools?
2 years ago
Anonymous
just a few I grabbed off google search in like 2 minutes
2 years ago
Anonymous
your very picture says the fourth one wasn't a military target, but a civilian shelter
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shouldn't have prevented people from leaving the city?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>y-you dont understand, we literally HAVE to shell every single building that potentially MIGHT have Ukranian troops or equipment in it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>y-you dont understand, we literally HAVE to hide in civilian buildings so we can shoot you but you can't shoot us! it's not fair!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hohols should fight on our terms! Stop fricking shooting back! This is not fair! Kadyrov help!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Vatniks should fight on our terms! Stop fricking shooting back! This is not fair! NATO help!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NATO help!
Sure thing bro.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/iki2vqa.jpg
>You rang? Here's a Neptune and some coordinates.
>NOOOOOOO!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You rang? Here's a Neptune and some coordinates.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>man defending himself yells for help >this is unfair and corwadly according to hiv dindus
how, in your krokodil mind of yours, do you see this is an argument ?
you are a literal steretype of "he a good boy, he dindu nuffin, it was unfair the victim was armed with an ar 15"
2 years ago
Anonymous
ukraine would not have to defend itself if they respected the right to self-determination of minorities in donbass. it's that simple.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Donbabwean is not a real nationality and you will never be a woman.
2 years ago
Anonymous
usa is not a real country, it's british clay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dilate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
not an argument. donbass had as much a right to cut ties with ukraine as us had with britain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a few morons and russian troops doesn't make a revolution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>simping for CHAZ of the east
oh? so what makes a revolution? does the government has to rape 100,000 people anally every day for the revolution to be real? do they have to kill your children? or can you and your neighbours one day decide that you've had enough of some politician to tell you how to live?
what makes one revolution just and the other unjust? you're not the people giving your lives for it, so who the frick are you to decide?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes actually. Do you volunteer for the 100k anal rapes a day to legitimize your cause?
2 years ago
Anonymous
apparently all it takes is a insignificant conflict started by a neighbour with the purpose of stealing your land.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A revolution is typically a popular uprising.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the anti-maidan was a popular uprising in a region of ukraine that culturally and historically had closer ties with russia than with ukraine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except less than 3% of the American population participated in the Revolutionary War; so what the frick are you even talking about?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>3% of the population somehow defeated 97% of their own population and the British
They earned it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>one day decide that you've had enough of some politician to tell you how to live?
I'm tired of living under the thumb of some oppressive wealthy israeli bureaucratic crook! Let's join Putin's Russia!
2 years ago
Anonymous
You still haven't told us what exact rights were going to be taken away from russian speaking population of Ukraine.
Keep in mind that we are talking about multilingual country that has most of its population already speaking in russian.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's funny when they claim that ebil nazi israelite Zelensky (who speaks russian and was voted by russian speakers) is persecuting russian speakers and eating their children.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There was no popular revolution in Donbabwe. It was all staged Russian lies. Simple as.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>does the government has to rape 100,000 people anally every day for the revolution to be real?
They should just take the rape right? You are giving mixed signals here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"One rape is a tragedy, a 100,000 rapes is merely a statistic. But you should take the rapes all the same. Mmmmm, dicks."
- Joseph V. Stalin
2 years ago
Anonymous
>simping for CHAZ of the east
2 years ago
Anonymous
>not an argument. every eastern bloc country had as much a right to cut ties with Soviet Union as us had with britain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i fully agree with this. but the same goes to regions who no longer want to be a part of those countries. the liechtenstein model of democracy, homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Interesting. Do the Free Belorussians have the right to cut the ties with Batka's illegitimate regime?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, they do. so do catalonians, scots, silesians, etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's no such thing as silesian nation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did the Chechens have the same?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes. if you haven't figured it out already i'm all for secession. it should be legal. a fricklot of bloodshed could be spared if people could just make their own country from the land they own when their current one isn't good for them.
ukraine is just another country where multiple separate groups of people were forced to coexist by some great powers' decree. soviet union politicians changed its borders willy nilly and they shouldn;t have in the first place. it's same shit as rwanda, kosovo, palestine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, Russia, known historically for respecting minorities right to self determination.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Russia starts minor civil war so therefore you have to give land to Russia
sound logic
2 years ago
Anonymous
it's not russia that started it. direct cause is euromaidan in 2012.
2 years ago
Anonymous
sure it did. paste the full fanfic while you're at it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>burgers larp about booging due to lying politicians for 4 years >cry about Ukraine doing it
You agree with 1/6 rioters getting insurection charges ?
2 years ago
Anonymous
> do insurrection things > fail > noo you cant charge me
git gud
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh absolutely, it was common Donbabwean folk that revolted, with their army surplus tanks and howitzers, right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are Russia so concerned about these Donbass separatist regions right to self-determination but fought tooth and nail to stop Chechens from the same?
Could it be that Russia is hypocritical as usual and using double speak to try to cover it up?
Say it isn't so.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about respecting the right for self-determination of Chechnya and Dagestan, you Black person?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NATO help!
You got it buddy!
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, they have to because someone is invading said area lmfao. >why did you stand your ground in a self defence shooting ? you should have fled !
grabber tier moron.
Difference is that Schools are owned by Public/Government.
Most of the things you listed as alternatives are typically a private property. And taking these might lead to some clashes with civilians and lower their trust in armed forces.
So Government allowing to use school as facilities for Soldiers is very much within Government right and jurisdiction. Also Government will typically announce that those schools are no longer open for public.
your entire post was Mental Gymnastics at best because you don't have a single bit of info to support anything you said. you're just typing words and hoping i take your side.
Difference is that Schools are owned by Public/Government.
Most of the things you listed as alternatives are typically a private property. And taking these might lead to some clashes with civilians and lower their trust in armed forces.
So Government allowing to use school as facilities for Soldiers is very much within Government right and jurisdiction. Also Government will typically announce that those schools are no longer open for public.
also schools are usually separate buildings, not part of like a whole apartment complex that you'd have to empty.
Also its not like grocery stores just shut down bc theres a war on lol
they were literally hiding out and moving their equipment near residential apartment buildings and shit where civilians lived so russia couldn't blow them up without blowing up the civilians and there were videos on telegram of the civilians trying to chase them away
>remember when the war first started and russia blew up all their airports
No? I remember photos of Russian rockets missing almost all vital structures of every airport they shot at?
The mind of the hohol is so rotten they simultaneously hold the beliefs that "russia is so evil they blew up all the innocent airports!" and "vatniks are so stupid they missed all the airports lmao!!!".
Its all just mindless propaganda to cope with losing their country slice by slice.
nope. the fault lies in a government that mistreats a culturally separate minority living on territory claimed by it. donbass is why secession should be a god-given right of every man. nothing would happen if they were left alone.
>nothing would happen if they were left alone
True.
Unfortunately, they were visited by vatnik terror squads and then the regular ground forces of Russia.
who they called for help because of actions of ukrainian government. frick ukraine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nobody called on them.
In fact, the first batch was kicked out by civilians, that's why they had to come back with regular army units.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and then for no reason at all, Russia found itself occupying Crimea. How convenient it all is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
wow, it's almost as if people living in crimea, who was russian until 1950s, reacted badly to post-maidan ukrainian government trying to forcibly derussify them against their wishes. crimea was autonomous since the fall of soviet union. the new government finally did enough to make them want to go back to russia.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>forcibly derussify them against their wishes >"my eubonics arent an official language and im not granted special priviledges, this is literally opression"
2 years ago
Anonymous
since they lost the rights they previously had when they peacefully coexisted with the rest of ukraine, yes, it was oppression.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>since they lost the rights
what rights ?
why do russians argue like trannies and women lmfao ?
always some vague "rights" they are still missing and ghostly opression of equality.
2 years ago
Anonymous
tfw you kick out the original inhabitants of a place and colonize it and then cope and seethe when your colonial empire falls apart and you can't get away with erasing other languages anymore
>nothing would happen if they were left alone.
I agree with you, tavorish. Those FSB glowies/russian nationals from 2014 onwards should have stayed the frick out to begin with.
The most hilarious thing about this war is how Russia are actually conscripting those Donbabwe Black folk and sending them in human wave attacks. The Russian government killed more separatists than Ukraine could in 200 years lmao. The male population of the separatist states will be completely decimated.
Most of the people still living in these regions are mentally ill and settled there after 2014. They fully deserve whatever happens to them now. Not even Russian-owned businesses and factories were spared the looting back in 2014-2015.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can't fricking wait for the separatist "governments" to be considered terrorist organizations internationally before this is over.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No argument here, they got exactly what they wanted: Russkiy Mir. This is what it looks like and they deserve all of it.. but the best part is that it will only get worse.
russia isn't conscripting them. they have their own force organization, their own equipment, their own leaders, and their own laws. they cooperate militarily with russian army out of their own volition.
Oh this totally; pretty rich that Russia frames this as some kind of humanitarian mission, then drives the people it's supposedly saving to death at fricking gunpoint, pretty funny to see all the vatnik shillc**ts and simps ignore this also...
hold on, i thought the invasion of ukraine was about exterminating ukrainians? i thought it was about annexing the country? i thought it was about regime change? i thought it was about taking over ukraine before it could finish joining nato? i thought it was about keeping a "buffer state"? now it's about russia's human wave-- donbabweans? shit i can't keep up with this firehose of crap.
>mistreats
Ah yes, tell me how Russians in a region that is 90% ethnically Russian in a country that has Russian as one of two official languages are le unfairly oppressed
But they didn't get to secede
Lavrov mentioned just a few days ago that both regions would be annexed directly into russia during a speech
Everything they have fought and died for since 2014 was a lie the russians were planning to annex them all along
i imagine war changes priorities. we don't know what would happen without it and we don't know whether this isn't what they thought was best for them. both of the republics took a modified russian flag as their own, so it's not like it was 100% forced on them.
nope. the fault lies in a government that mistreats a culturally separate minority living on territory claimed by it. donbass is why secession should be a god-given right of every man. nothing would happen if they were left alone.
This
No, especially in Donbass.
Without exception, all civilian casualties on the territory of Russia and Ukraine are the fault of the Putinist government.
for donbass, but those "aren't people" anyway, right /k/oper?
there would be thousands and thousands more people alive from donbass and luhansk if russia didnt send them to the front lines.
and russia wouldnt be invading if the US didnt direct their pet in ukraine to start rounding up and killing russian separatists and then refusing to even sit at the negotiating table with russia to sort out sanctions and nato expansion when their tanks were literally at their bordera and have been there multiple times pleading for a deal.
the narrative is breaking. people are more wise to the fact that this is a proxy war for the US to put strain on russia and its backfiring bigtime.
and dont even get me started with all the incentives the biden family has in private interests over there.
>Separatists in other country >I have to invade
Imagine being this moronic. Not to mention Russia's annexation of Crimea without any declaration of war which saw Russia sending in thousands of "volunteers" and "concerned citizens" as if they never ordered it. Interesting how the separatists didn't start getting bombed until they tried to secede and join Russia. It's almost as if they brought it on themselves. Also, Russia only cares about NATO expansion because it gets rid of their ability to bully and invade their neighbors without severe consequences.
except for donbass, but those "aren't people" anyway, right /k/oper?
can't wait for those c**ts in kiev to be ousted when narrative turns.
I know you're gonna refuse to acknowledge this comment, but consider the following:
1) it never happened
2) knowing what we know now, it would have been wise if Ukraine had killed the injected Russian diaspora because of their willingness to rape women and children, loot, and lie all with Russian government support.
>and russia wouldnt be invading if the US didnt direct their pet in ukraine to start rounding up and killing russian separatists and then refusing to even sit at the negotiating table with russia to sort out sanctions and nato expansion when their tanks were literally at their bordera and have been there multiple times pleading for a deal.
This anon is is mentally ill, he is having a mental episode.
Schizophrenics often have these episodes, at one point they're chased by monsters, the next the "evil west" has set up an invasion force in their bedroom closet etc.
They even believe in imaginary places like "Donetsk people's republic", a fantasy story fabricated by the illegal Moscow regime for their psychiatric hospitals for testing the sanity of the patients.
Whatever his medical status is, one thing is certain - the illegal war started suddenly and without a single reason by Russia has destabilized Russia and is going to lead to the downfall of their nation. We can only hope that this does not affect the treatment of psychiatric patients like this poster.
are you homosexual morons just going to keep repeating this line when confronted with info that disrupts your head-canon?
you sound like Norks worshipping "le great leader!!!!". Does Zelensky shit lightning and fart thunder too?
I just don't care what the Russians do.
They could cut the balls of every Ukrainian male in a uniform and I would still not give a shit.
Frick around and find out.
>country being invaded forced to fight in its own cities might be endangering civillians or risk endangering its civillians by being put in filtration camps if they don't
Wow shocking info there. How about possibly being in danger doesn't exempt you from actually being a useful organisation and helping those endangered civvies out by going there and helping instead of staying as far away from having to do any real work? Amnesty is such a waste of resources, they always say this shit and do nothing.
Hmmm why don't you post the source? I'm assuming it's one that thinks you can hide a HIMARS in the second floor of a multi story building or Ukraine is making super mutants.
>amnesty
So basically a group which thinks if you don't give 600 terrorists comfy digs, you're on the same level as the Soviet gulag. They sound like some real sharp individuals.
Amnesty.
Everybody's dogpiling that woman on twitter right now, especially people who have any familiarity with past wars.
Or those that saw her post about what a big drama access to abortion is, only to follow it with this stunt.
It's almost as if somebody is paying her to discredit Amnesty, but I am confident it's purely a lack of awareness.
Amnesty acting like denial of abortion is a humans rights abuse is pants on the head moronic. Not every country or state limits abortion to just before viability. So in those cases you're supporting infanticide.
Good. It would be better to fight until every last man, woman, and child is dead than give in to Russia. Using children as suicide bombers is preferable to them having to live under Russian occupation.
this is what russians keep saying but hohols keep crying "nooo wtf evil russians keep destroying our cities, how could they do this!!!!" as if city fighting isn't part of modern warfare.
hohols will say just about anything to blame russia for something.
>russia invaded so that means i'm allowed to be a fricking moron and make points that aren't based in reality or logic
idk that sounds like cope for you being low IQ
again, you're mentioning "blame" when that was never a factor in the conversation. We're talking about the inevitabilities of modern warfare and how ukies cry when their buildings get destroyed, even though thats a very basic part of war.
War is war and it takes two to tango. Maybe ukies should've surrendered instead of "fighting to the last ukrainian" and losing everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
maybe russia should not have invaded for literally no actual reason? how about that you stupid Black person?
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's never been the way of the world, you need to grow up.
Name a single time throughout history where an invader asked if they could invade.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Russia hasnt evolved since the birth of humanity
wow, now thats an achivement of self realiziation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you don't have an answer, gotcha. Not greece nor egyptians nor persians nor Rome nor The Celts or Germanics or Balks or any invading nation throughout time has ever asked for permission.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He said they shouldn't have invaded, not they should have asked for permission.
2 years ago
Anonymous
okay well it doesn't matter what "should" or "should not" happen because they're already invaded.
the invaded never think they should be invaded, that wouldn't make any sense.
2 years ago
Anonymous
maybe russia should not have invaded for literally no actual reason? how about that you stupid Black person?
2 years ago
Anonymous
just let blm and antifa riot and beat you dude, if you resist you might end up dead !
2 years ago
Anonymous
>War is war and it takes two to tango >Maybe ukies should've surrendered
...this is the most moronic thing ive ever read.
literally how is one this moronic ?
you can literally apply this "logic" to any violent encounter, from rape to torture to a self defence shooting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you can literally apply this "logic" to any violent encounter, from rape to torture to a self defence shooting.
why yes, yes you can. congrats on figuring that one out. Rape and Torture are both terrible horrific things, but fighting back has never made the experience better. When a woman is raped and tries to fight back, it quickly ends up with her being murdered. While yes she SHOULD fight back against her rapist, she should realize that doing so is a great risk to herself, moreso than just taking the rape.
2 years ago
Anonymous
unless the attacker is weak like Russia
2 years ago
Anonymous
>fighting back has never made the experience better >just taking the rape >/k/
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you think if a man rapes a woman and the woman starts punching and scratching him, he's just going to get up and leave? holy frick you're an idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>just take the rape
2 years ago
Anonymous
if you value your life, yes. would you rather get a bullet to the skull?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you value your life, yes
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he's resorted to the 5 year old tactic
put down the keyboard and go outside, sis
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd rather use the gun my friend, NATO, gave me and kill the attacker. Or wound him and rape him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's the quintessence of the pussian mentality. "Don't resist, you wouldn't want to turn this rape into a murder."
2 years ago
Anonymous
>excusing rapist
You are pathetic, anon >captcha: NGRTT
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're going to have to point me to where i said rape was okay, because i never said it.
my statement was the FACT that if someone is raped, fighting back might get them killed. if you don't agree thats okay, but i'm correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
By that logic, Russia should have give up and submit herself to Nazi Germany.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hitler was trying to de-communize and free the russian people but they decided to fight their liberators and lost over 20 million for it. Fricking crackhead commies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, they should've. If Nazi Germany gained control over Russia where would've never been a Communist Russia or USSR, and the USSR wouldn't have been able to influence China and other South East Asian countries to becomes Communist.
Nazi's taking over Russia would've unironically been a great thing for world history.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you're on /k/
we believe the woman should be carrying a service knife, a .22 holdout, a 9mm automatic, a 10mm automatic because 9mms are for wristlets, a fully-automatic rifle, a 10-ga shotgun, a halberd and a spear for self-defense.
And also, preventively shoot the village rapist, because this isn't Moldova.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no axe or machete
NGMI
2 years ago
Anonymous
What is the halberd if not an axe-pick-pike combo?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>dont fight back
have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know this is a rhetorical question, and you're a fricking moron who can't fathom this, but the single best thing you can do to prevent an attempted rape from becoming a completed rape is to struggle so much you make it difficult or you inflict a defensive injury.
Most rapists have done it before and do not like having to rape and murder or murder you beforehand. If they have a scratch mark and you have a chunk of skin under their fingernails they have a fricking problem. They are aware of this and will find an easier target or at least try again another time.
But again, you're a b***h so the thought of resisting anything seems lost upon you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you should just take it
i expect nothing less from a vatnik cuck
2 years ago
Anonymous
fight me
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao you vatniks are such cattle, no wonder you take to autocrats so naturally
2 years ago
Anonymous
This whole post makes a lot more sense when you realize it was written from the point of view of the rapist.
"don't fight back or I'll kill you", "it won't make the experience better", the strange assumption of chivalry on the part of the attacker, the fact that torture is just accepted as part of the experience.
I'd expect no less from a russian
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's probably more pathetic than that tbqh
My guess is a western brownoid pro-putin incel, who naturally identifies with anyone who cant get women to consent to sex with them and reflexively rationalizes on their behalf
2 years ago
Anonymous
>This whole post makes a lot more sense when you realize it was written from the point of view of the rapist.
You've only just spotted this? The pro-rapist vibes were obvious in an earlier post.
again, you're mentioning "blame" when that was never a factor in the conversation. We're talking about the inevitabilities of modern warfare and how ukies cry when their buildings get destroyed, even though thats a very basic part of war.
War is war and it takes two to tango. Maybe ukies should've surrendered instead of "fighting to the last ukrainian" and losing everything.
the countries that surrendered during ww2 turned out better off after the war than the countries that didn't, except those that usa propped up. czechia vs poland.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're right, the Soviet Union should have surrendered.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the countries that were outside soviet union influence turned out better >US did this
2 years ago
Anonymous
>czech republic >outside sovet influence
educate yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ooga booga getting shot during a robbery is just part and parcel of the big city life, quit your whining cracker
What always leaves me scratching my head. Why didn't Russia occupy Donbass in 2014 when they drove right through it. Or at least set up a peace keeping force of some kind. It's almost like it wasn't valuable until all those gas pockets were discovered a few years later.
They tried. They failed. They literally couldn't advance any further due to all the deep rooted issues that were made plain for everyone to see during their February invasion. If anything Russia was in an even worse shape in 2014-2015.
Because Russia got checked hard back in 2014.
If Obama was not a pussy, the problem could have been ended there.
The current invasion is the result of 8 years of preparation and has seen the latest and greatest Russian weapons, as well as the entirety of their standing army.
In 2014, they only had success because Ukraine was in an even worse state and because the USA president was a b***h.
Military bases in populated areas are normal. Thazs like complaining policestations are located in a town.
And anti-air in cities are normal too, otherwise you wouldnt protect civilians.
Russi is endangering civilians and everybody should complain that trainstations are in coties too!
yeah cause russia is famous for caring about civilians
this kinda whataboutism helps noone except fricking russia that started this shitshow in the first place
Lol amnesty international cries about anything and everything in regards to civilian casualties. If your enemy doesn't follow the rules then why should you?
>It's martial law >assign some army lads to keep hospitals safe (cops are already in TDF or can't cope with the workload) >schools empty because there's a fricking war going on >army uses these empty school buildings instead of actual inhabited residential areas >oh my goooood this is a war crime
like the russian federation, whose balkanisation is long overdue, and whose special needs operation has been pretty much halted by an "artificial" entity
Russia recognized it and agreed not to assail its sovereignty through various official documents including the Budapest Memorandum. Even if Maidan was a HATO CIA glowBlack person remote viewing op (NOT CLICKBAIT) like Russia says it was, that wouldn't undo the fact that their own documents recognized it as a sovereign and legitimate nation. Cope.
>asymmetrical warfare gets people killed >concern trolling about "oh noez da civilians >w<" because Ukrops are actually smart about how they fight >ignore the countless times where Russia gets bad intel, has bad actors, or is just moronic and bombs civilian structures
Amnesty International are fricking gays, get the frick off this board with your concern trolling nonsense.
>concern trolling
aka "stop complaining about things i support". You're a dishonest person, and so project your dishonesty onto others. You've been so mindfricked by 24/7 irony and shitposting you've forgotten that people have real beliefs.
they had a chance to leave but didn't. civilian deaths are unfortunate but again, they are a part of War and always have been.
Even in 1200 BC civilians were killed in War. Its like you're trying to ask me "how do you feel about people dying in war" like its some new-fangled invention.
Kinda weird how you cut off the source from your screenshot.
Russians crying about how they look like monsters when they kill civilians is always funny though, so keep it up.
you're coping about how you're coping
I don't know how you people can keep this shit straight
Oh wait, it's russia, so you'll probably just rape it and say it's just for punishment so it's not gay.
See what I mean? Just yesterday you guys said that Russia had taken half of Ukraine and was poised to crush it once and for all.
Now your cope is that they haven't completely expelled you from their country.
You're not even calling it your country anymore, you're literally counting days until you lose Svestepol. It's fricking HILARIOUS watching you guys get buck broken in real time.
> Just yesterday you guys said that Russia had taken half of Ukraine and was poised to crush it once and for all.
idk who "you guys" are, i'm myself. Idk why people think Russia was "poised" to do that when they NEVER stated that was their goal.
This is what I mean about hohols being shitzo; you guys create your own reality of what you THINK is going to happen, and then act astounded when the nonsense you made up in your own mind doesn't happen. Russia never said it was going to completely annex ukraine, that is what Ukraine and the west said Russia would do, and now you're acting superior because Russia isn't doing the thing you invented in your mind that they'd do?
>Idk why people think Russia was "poised" to do that when they NEVER stated that was their goal.
Sometimes I forget that chronic alcohol poisoning affects memory. Then I ask a Russian about something that happened 10 minutes ago and am reminded.
it should be easy for you to find a statement them. find me a source where Putin said the goal of the "special operation" was complete annexation of ukraine. ill wait.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>demilitarize
requires complete control/neutralization >denazify
requires boots on ground and reeducation camps >battle map is two big offensives heading to Kiev
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Russia never said it was going to completely annex ukraine, that is what Ukraine and the west said Russia would do, and now you're acting superior because Russia isn't doing the thing you invented in your mind that they'd do?
Russia also said it wasn't going to invade at all. The actions committed since day one of the invasion show an attempt for an all out annexation of Ukraine.
>the VDV seizure of Hostomel >Russian elite armored units drive to Kiev with fricking riot police >staging amphibious assaults and probing attacks toward Odessa >most of Russian PGM and cruise missiles targeted to weaken Kiev >the hilarious spaghetti offenses to cut off Kiev >fricking Lushashenko showing the plan
The plan was haphazardly made on a best case scenario that Ukraine would completely fold like the southern front. Instead we Russia had to retreat, regroup and rephrase the war as "securing just the Donbass". Which if that was the case, why the frick weren't they pushing harder in the east when they launched the fricking invasion.
By tomorrow, the vodka will have erased all memory of these posts from the vatnik's mind, and he'll be back here insisting that there's absolutely no proofs that Russia wanted to annex all of Ukraine.
>Russia never said it was going to completely annex ukraine, that is what Ukraine and the west said Russia would do, and now you're acting superior because Russia isn't doing the thing you invented in your mind that they'd do?
Russia also said it wasn't going to invade at all. The actions committed since day one of the invasion show an attempt for an all out annexation of Ukraine.
>the VDV seizure of Hostomel >Russian elite armored units drive to Kiev with fricking riot police >staging amphibious assaults and probing attacks toward Odessa >most of Russian PGM and cruise missiles targeted to weaken Kiev >the hilarious spaghetti offenses to cut off Kiev >fricking Lushashenko showing the plan
The plan was haphazardly made on a best case scenario that Ukraine would completely fold like the southern front. Instead we Russia had to retreat, regroup and rephrase the war as "securing just the Donbass". Which if that was the case, why the frick weren't they pushing harder in the east when they launched the fricking invasion.
>they NEVER stated that was their goal.
yeah we should hang on the words of the famously transparent russian state >Ambassador Vasily Nebenzya denied any plans for invasion and said Russia was within its rights to station troops anywhere within its own territory. He stated "Not a single Russian politician, not a single public figure, not a single person said that we are planning to attack Ukraine."
Putin is angling to settle down into a Korea scenario of frozen conflict now. He got his balls chopped off after grinding down 20% of the poorest country in Europe. You're a joke, and your pitiful race is dead.
>He got his balls chopped off after grinding down 20% of the poorest country in Europe.
Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now, as well as Russia controlling Europes gas, as well as getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested and forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies? Yeah man he's losing....
>Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now
You can't seriously believe this >as well as Russia controlling Europes gas
kek > as well as getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested
At least you'll save some Rubles since you won't have to pay those widows! >and forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies
BMP-1s are better anyway!
>Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now
Post volume. >getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested
Post ammo depots. >forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies
KEK
>Ruble is doing so well right now
see image >Russia controlling Europes gas
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/EU-Gas-Dependence-On-Russia-Falls-By-50.html
You still haven't told how exactly russian speaking populations rights were getting taken away in a country that has a majority of its population speaking russian?
one example is the post-maidan government passing laws that would disallow classes in schools to be taught in russian, while they could still be taught in polish, which is a fractional minority in ukraine: https://www-osw-waw-pl.translate.goog/pl/publikacje/komentarze-osw/2019-06-11/ukraincy-nie-gesi-ustawa-o-jezyku-panstwowym-ukrainy?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp >The general intention of the education regulations is to close down schools with Russian as the language of instruction as soon as possible and to limit the teaching of Russian as a subject as much as possible, as well as to weaken the negative reaction of Hungary, Poland and Romania by postponing the final Ukrainianization of secondary schools with the language of instruction of these nations.
people of donbass felt this was a direct repercussion of their support for yanukovich. that the pro-maidan government wanted their culture eradicated.
ultimately revolutions are about what people feel is wrong.
>people of donbass felt this was a direct repercussion of their support for yanukovich. that the pro-maidan government wanted their culture eradicated. >ultimately revolutions are about what people feel is wrong.
So it's basically just the slav version of "white genocide"
No wonder the poltards love them so much
>pass law making Ukrainan the language of official matters >schools now teach languages of friendly european nations instead
so this is what cultural genocided against Russians looks like ?
not having the same priviledges as they did when they ruled the country ?
man they really are white dindus.
>if i keep posting strawmen i win the argument
cool and friendly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>strawman
its literally the same "cultural opression" meme vatnik. >country i reside in teaches their langauge instead of mine
2 years ago
Anonymous
russians have a thing about language for some reason. when i read seething vattie comments on disqus or whatever they often say they'll take over the west and make our languages go extinct.
Maybe don't live in a country where you can't speak the language? This seems like a simple problem to solve. Just go to the giant country 20 miles away where they DO speak your language?
Or is there some reason why people might not want to immigrate to Russia?
>Maybe don't live in a country where you can't speak the language
that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron. it was their land, their homes and their right. they just wanted it to not be in ukraine. but new ukrainian government wouldn't let them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron.
Then why did they stay in a country where they don't speak the language? Why not go to the country where they do? > it was their land, their homes and their right.
If that was true, why didn't that land use their language? See, you refute yourself. > they just wanted it to not be in ukraine
I'm not sure if you know this, but Russia, the country where they speak the same language, is the largest in the world. There's plenty of places they could go and be perfectly welcome. Yet they didn't want to go there. Why not? Is there something wrong with living in Russia that makes people want to avoid it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Then why did they stay in a country where they don't speak the language? Why not go to the country where they do?
as
But they didn't get to secede
Lavrov mentioned just a few days ago that both regions would be annexed directly into russia during a speech
Everything they have fought and died for since 2014 was a lie the russians were planning to annex them all along
noticed they are in the process of going to russia even as we post. thanks to ukrainian government it was just much more bloody.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>as
But they didn't get to secede
Lavrov mentioned just a few days ago that both regions would be annexed directly into russia during a speech
Everything they have fought and died for since 2014 was a lie the russians were planning to annex them all along noticed they are in the process of going to russia even as we post.
They're not "going" anywhere. They're just throwing a hissy fit an watching their big brother get its ass kicked by NATO
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Is there something wrong with living in Russia that makes people want to avoid it?
It must be, considering most of the educated people left Donbabwe in 2014/2015 and moved Ukrainian controlled territories after russians did their stuff there.
Really makes you think
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's the one argument I've never seen them even address. Why didn't those poor, oppressed Russian-speakers just move 20 miles away into Russia, where they would be welcomed with open arms. Why would they not want to do that?
Either they weren't really oppressed, or Russia is such a hellscape that being bombed by corrupt troony comedians is still preferable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Donbas was certainly mistreated pre-2014, but it wasn't at the level that Russia wants you to believe. Strelkov himself said that the seperation movement would have fizzled out just like in Kharkov and Odessa, if Russia hadn't moved in to organise them and take action.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron. it was their land, their homes and their right. they just wanted it to not be in ukraine. but new ukrainian government wouldn't let them.
headcanon
2 years ago
Anonymous
to be clear: you are claiming that russia invaded a european country because that country was requiring that schools teach in the ukrainian dialect rather than the russian one
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you must give CHAZ complete autonomy, while also providing them everything
Russia cucking for israeli Oblast and Chechenia doesnt mean others must do so as well.
>Ukrainian is borderline identical to Russian when spoken and written. >Implying that by not teaching Russian and instead teaching Ukrainian in Ukraine this is the end of all life as we know it and makes life in Ukraine impossible.
Is this man taking the piss? WHO GIVES A SHIT? This is like saying because America wants to teach American English instead of British English because it's, surprise, America, that it's impossible for current British citizens to live in America and they're having their lives destroyed. This is such an incredible idiotic argument to make.
you got your timeline messed up. but let me help you:
maindan was in 2012. shit started brewing between 2012 and 2014. in 2014 it exploded. i guess you were too busy jerking off during those years.
i imagine war changes priorities. we don't know what would happen without it and we don't know whether this isn't what they thought was best for them. both of the republics took a modified russian flag as their own, so it's not like it was 100% forced on them.
that was in case of a bad outcome of the battle of kyiv... which you lost. we all know if russia took kyiv it would have gone door-to-door disappearing and shooting civilians.
>Dead criminal’s family complains victim’s AR-15 made the fight unfair >the ar 15 justifies further transgression >also arming people is bad
Those LA rioters didnt have a choice but to riot and loot, because the store owners were allowed to arm themselves !
This post (which is correct) shows why /misc/ will never be able to infiltrate here.
/misc/ is made of bootlicker, they will never understand /k/, even if they think they do.
How is getting invaded a free pass for endangering your own civilians?
Any decent commander would want to keep your own countrymen out of harms way. Of course sometimes tactical effectiveness has to be prioritized but don't act as if the ukrainian army doesn't get any choice on how they fight.
Frick Russia but this ain't it.
>vatniks using this amnesty thing as a win >conveniently forget that amnesty holds russia responsible for bucha, irpin and basically every humanitarian crime committed in northern ukraine
>waaah how dare the Ukrainian Army be in Ukraine! Abloobloobloo
Maybe they should take the war to Russia. Then no Ukrainian civilians will be in danger.
>thanks for all the butthurt
all i got from vatniks here, was how similar to leftists posting "ironic" groomer shit they are.
only the left has media black hole everything releated when one of the trolls turns out to be a pedo
but vatniks remain maskless
uh oh, a "ukraine ISNT winning" post on /k/.
this isnt going to go over well buddy, /k/ is ultra-hardcore
>"Le ukraine is winning!"
and this mite make them pretty not happy to see
Hello comrades I am John Robertson from Tallahassee Oblast and I agree with these statements
ukies literally have a single joke and its not even funny. what happened to the rest of your jokes, did zelensky sell them off?
pls im begging you post the tank webm again its the peak of comedy
sorry all i've got is destroyed training facility #287
>even older than the tank vid
vatniks are truly sad creatures
not as sad as the piggys that insist they are winning despite continuously losing chunks of their country and never retaking them.
Donetsk, Lugansk, The Crimea. All gone, never to be reclaimed.
I thought Crimea has always been russian clay
Even disregarding your various "goodwill gestures" and "feints" that your side has so courageously fled, the Ukrainians have taken back several bits and bobs in the north and south. They have a better chance of taking back Crimea than Russia has of becoming a respectable nation within the next century. cry about it some more, weakling.
>haha dumb hohol, I show you we have many meme
>BEHOLD the second meme I own!
thats not a meme, those are your dead countrymen.
Explain this image to me
>hohols hanging out
>see tank with big fat Z painted on it coming right at them
>do nothing because they assume its a "captured" tank
>get BTFO by point blank range Tank fire.
>all recorded on video
Suffering from success I guess, it’s not their fault that earlier on gypsy farmers captured dozens of machines and thought this was another one
>from success
you can talk from a place of strength when you actually own and control 100% of your territory. you just sound like a god damn clown right now.
>Stalingrad wasn't a success because the Germans still controlled a lot of territory.
>tank webm
That video still gives me a chuckle
>Single joke.
>monke
>2 weeks
>cauldron
>- Z
>gloves come off
>veh deh veh
>copium
>abandooner
Every aspect of your entire fricking invasion is a joke, except for the rampant warcrimes you commit in response to being publicly nationally emasculated.
TLDR you're salty about losing a war the entire west gave you resources for. The cope keeps getting funnier.
>ukies literally have a single joke and its not even funny. what happened to the rest of your jokes, did zelensky sell them off?
two jokes*
remember when the war first started and russia blew up all their airports in like 1 hour and they were all hiding in elementary schools and shit the next day because they were afraid of getting blown up? kek
why is the next option after an airport a fricking elementary school? aren't there literally dozens of types of other buildings to use before you say "hey lets make our HQ where children learn!"
>aren't there literally dozens of types of other buildings to use
Such as? Schools are perfect because they're large, organized structures with a lot of open interior space (cafeterias, gyms, auditoriums, etc). And it's not like school is in session so there are no civilians. They're also all over the place.
It's why schools are used as shelters for natural disasters and emergency services.
office buildings, parking garages, apartments, residential homes, grocery stores, etc. literally anything but a school, but keep making excuses.
Yes, put soldiers were civilians actually are during war time. Not the school, that's where the heckin' children aren't are since school isn't in fricking session during a war.
Fricking moron.
So if children aren't in the schools why do hohols cry so much when russians blow up the schools being used as bases?
everytime a school gets exploded theres a plethora of piggies screeching 'noooo how could they do this!! those poor kids!!"
Source? The only time I here ukies getting upset is when Russian precision missiles hit fricking hospitals, apartment buildings and nursing homes.
yeah, because they lose a command post every time that happens.
I'm sure you would say that. I can see where this conversation is heading and I'm not going to play your game.
You're asking for a source thats next to impossible to find because its buried in the archives from last time russia struck a school weeks and weeks ago.
Next you'll say "ha no source? typical vatnig" because I can't meet your impossible requirements. Why don't you go back in the archives and show me how calm and collected hohols were when russians blew up schools?
just a few I grabbed off google search in like 2 minutes
your very picture says the fourth one wasn't a military target, but a civilian shelter
Shouldn't have prevented people from leaving the city?
>y-you dont understand, we literally HAVE to shell every single building that potentially MIGHT have Ukranian troops or equipment in it
>y-you dont understand, we literally HAVE to hide in civilian buildings so we can shoot you but you can't shoot us! it's not fair!
>Hohols should fight on our terms! Stop fricking shooting back! This is not fair! Kadyrov help!
>Vatniks should fight on our terms! Stop fricking shooting back! This is not fair! NATO help!
>NATO help!
Sure thing bro.
>NOOOOOOO!
>You rang? Here's a Neptune and some coordinates.
>man defending himself yells for help
>this is unfair and corwadly according to hiv dindus
how, in your krokodil mind of yours, do you see this is an argument ?
you are a literal steretype of "he a good boy, he dindu nuffin, it was unfair the victim was armed with an ar 15"
ukraine would not have to defend itself if they respected the right to self-determination of minorities in donbass. it's that simple.
Donbabwean is not a real nationality and you will never be a woman.
usa is not a real country, it's british clay.
Dilate.
not an argument. donbass had as much a right to cut ties with ukraine as us had with britain.
a few morons and russian troops doesn't make a revolution.
oh? so what makes a revolution? does the government has to rape 100,000 people anally every day for the revolution to be real? do they have to kill your children? or can you and your neighbours one day decide that you've had enough of some politician to tell you how to live?
what makes one revolution just and the other unjust? you're not the people giving your lives for it, so who the frick are you to decide?
Yes actually. Do you volunteer for the 100k anal rapes a day to legitimize your cause?
apparently all it takes is a insignificant conflict started by a neighbour with the purpose of stealing your land.
A revolution is typically a popular uprising.
the anti-maidan was a popular uprising in a region of ukraine that culturally and historically had closer ties with russia than with ukraine.
Except less than 3% of the American population participated in the Revolutionary War; so what the frick are you even talking about?
>3% of the population somehow defeated 97% of their own population and the British
They earned it.
>one day decide that you've had enough of some politician to tell you how to live?
I'm tired of living under the thumb of some oppressive wealthy israeli bureaucratic crook! Let's join Putin's Russia!
You still haven't told us what exact rights were going to be taken away from russian speaking population of Ukraine.
Keep in mind that we are talking about multilingual country that has most of its population already speaking in russian.
It's funny when they claim that ebil nazi israelite Zelensky (who speaks russian and was voted by russian speakers) is persecuting russian speakers and eating their children.
There was no popular revolution in Donbabwe. It was all staged Russian lies. Simple as.
>does the government has to rape 100,000 people anally every day for the revolution to be real?
They should just take the rape right? You are giving mixed signals here.
"One rape is a tragedy, a 100,000 rapes is merely a statistic. But you should take the rapes all the same. Mmmmm, dicks."
- Joseph V. Stalin
>simping for CHAZ of the east
>not an argument. every eastern bloc country had as much a right to cut ties with Soviet Union as us had with britain.
i fully agree with this. but the same goes to regions who no longer want to be a part of those countries. the liechtenstein model of democracy, homosexual.
Interesting. Do the Free Belorussians have the right to cut the ties with Batka's illegitimate regime?
yes, they do. so do catalonians, scots, silesians, etc.
There's no such thing as silesian nation.
Did the Chechens have the same?
yes. if you haven't figured it out already i'm all for secession. it should be legal. a fricklot of bloodshed could be spared if people could just make their own country from the land they own when their current one isn't good for them.
ukraine is just another country where multiple separate groups of people were forced to coexist by some great powers' decree. soviet union politicians changed its borders willy nilly and they shouldn;t have in the first place. it's same shit as rwanda, kosovo, palestine.
Ah yes, Russia, known historically for respecting minorities right to self determination.
>Russia starts minor civil war so therefore you have to give land to Russia
sound logic
it's not russia that started it. direct cause is euromaidan in 2012.
sure it did. paste the full fanfic while you're at it.
>burgers larp about booging due to lying politicians for 4 years
>cry about Ukraine doing it
You agree with 1/6 rioters getting insurection charges ?
> do insurrection things
> fail
> noo you cant charge me
git gud
Oh absolutely, it was common Donbabwean folk that revolted, with their army surplus tanks and howitzers, right?
Why are Russia so concerned about these Donbass separatist regions right to self-determination but fought tooth and nail to stop Chechens from the same?
Could it be that Russia is hypocritical as usual and using double speak to try to cover it up?
Say it isn't so.
How about respecting the right for self-determination of Chechnya and Dagestan, you Black person?
>NATO help!
You got it buddy!
yes, they have to because someone is invading said area lmfao.
>why did you stand your ground in a self defence shooting ? you should have fled !
grabber tier moron.
Difference is that Schools are owned by Public/Government.
Most of the things you listed as alternatives are typically a private property. And taking these might lead to some clashes with civilians and lower their trust in armed forces.
So Government allowing to use school as facilities for Soldiers is very much within Government right and jurisdiction. Also Government will typically announce that those schools are no longer open for public.
your entire post was Mental Gymnastics at best because you don't have a single bit of info to support anything you said. you're just typing words and hoping i take your side.
also schools are usually separate buildings, not part of like a whole apartment complex that you'd have to empty.
Also its not like grocery stores just shut down bc theres a war on lol
they were literally hiding out and moving their equipment near residential apartment buildings and shit where civilians lived so russia couldn't blow them up without blowing up the civilians and there were videos on telegram of the civilians trying to chase them away
>remember when the war first started and russia blew up all their airports
No? I remember photos of Russian rockets missing almost all vital structures of every airport they shot at?
The mind of the hohol is so rotten they simultaneously hold the beliefs that "russia is so evil they blew up all the innocent airports!" and "vatniks are so stupid they missed all the airports lmao!!!".
Its all just mindless propaganda to cope with losing their country slice by slice.
Are u okay? Did you take your meds? Go leave tourist.
i'm right because that exact scenario played out in this very thread.
>losing their country slice by slice
Russia controls less of Ukraine than it did 4 months ago
hg.png
>rape of nanking firmly the fault of Chinese authorities, opinion states
>Glasses -wearing Cambodians "had it coming", experts say
Nanking was asking for it
Civilians wouldn't be endanger if Russia didn't invade to begin with.
except for donbass, but those "aren't people" anyway, right /k/oper?
can't wait for those c**ts in kiev to be ousted when narrative turns.
his statement still stands
No, especially in Donbass.
Without exception, all civilian casualties on the territory of Russia and Ukraine are the fault of the Putinist government.
nope. the fault lies in a government that mistreats a culturally separate minority living on territory claimed by it. donbass is why secession should be a god-given right of every man. nothing would happen if they were left alone.
>nothing would happen if they were left alone
True.
Unfortunately, they were visited by vatnik terror squads and then the regular ground forces of Russia.
who they called for help because of actions of ukrainian government. frick ukraine.
Nobody called on them.
In fact, the first batch was kicked out by civilians, that's why they had to come back with regular army units.
and then for no reason at all, Russia found itself occupying Crimea. How convenient it all is.
wow, it's almost as if people living in crimea, who was russian until 1950s, reacted badly to post-maidan ukrainian government trying to forcibly derussify them against their wishes. crimea was autonomous since the fall of soviet union. the new government finally did enough to make them want to go back to russia.
>forcibly derussify them against their wishes
>"my eubonics arent an official language and im not granted special priviledges, this is literally opression"
since they lost the rights they previously had when they peacefully coexisted with the rest of ukraine, yes, it was oppression.
>since they lost the rights
what rights ?
why do russians argue like trannies and women lmfao ?
always some vague "rights" they are still missing and ghostly opression of equality.
tfw you kick out the original inhabitants of a place and colonize it and then cope and seethe when your colonial empire falls apart and you can't get away with erasing other languages anymore
Crimean Tatar*
>secession should be a god-given right of every man. nothing would happen if they were left alone.
Why do I get the strong feeling this was not the permitted sentiment toward Eastern Bloc countries during Soviet times
>nothing would happen if they were left alone.
I agree with you, tavorish. Those FSB glowies/russian nationals from 2014 onwards should have stayed the frick out to begin with.
The most hilarious thing about this war is how Russia are actually conscripting those Donbabwe Black folk and sending them in human wave attacks. The Russian government killed more separatists than Ukraine could in 200 years lmao. The male population of the separatist states will be completely decimated.
Most of the people still living in these regions are mentally ill and settled there after 2014. They fully deserve whatever happens to them now. Not even Russian-owned businesses and factories were spared the looting back in 2014-2015.
I can't fricking wait for the separatist "governments" to be considered terrorist organizations internationally before this is over.
No argument here, they got exactly what they wanted: Russkiy Mir. This is what it looks like and they deserve all of it.. but the best part is that it will only get worse.
russia isn't conscripting them. they have their own force organization, their own equipment, their own leaders, and their own laws. they cooperate militarily with russian army out of their own volition.
ah yes, they WANTED to get obliterated.
Oh this totally; pretty rich that Russia frames this as some kind of humanitarian mission, then drives the people it's supposedly saving to death at fricking gunpoint, pretty funny to see all the vatnik shillc**ts and simps ignore this also...
hold on, i thought the invasion of ukraine was about exterminating ukrainians? i thought it was about annexing the country? i thought it was about regime change? i thought it was about taking over ukraine before it could finish joining nato? i thought it was about keeping a "buffer state"? now it's about russia's human wave-- donbabweans? shit i can't keep up with this firehose of crap.
>mistreats
Ah yes, tell me how Russians in a region that is 90% ethnically Russian in a country that has Russian as one of two official languages are le unfairly oppressed
But they didn't get to secede
Lavrov mentioned just a few days ago that both regions would be annexed directly into russia during a speech
Everything they have fought and died for since 2014 was a lie the russians were planning to annex them all along
i imagine war changes priorities. we don't know what would happen without it and we don't know whether this isn't what they thought was best for them. both of the republics took a modified russian flag as their own, so it's not like it was 100% forced on them.
so it's not warcrimes when you're fighting for the (supposedly) good side ?
french c**t at it again
This
for donbass, but those "aren't people" anyway, right /k/oper?
there would be thousands and thousands more people alive from donbass and luhansk if russia didnt send them to the front lines.
and russia wouldnt be invading if the US didnt direct their pet in ukraine to start rounding up and killing russian separatists and then refusing to even sit at the negotiating table with russia to sort out sanctions and nato expansion when their tanks were literally at their bordera and have been there multiple times pleading for a deal.
the narrative is breaking. people are more wise to the fact that this is a proxy war for the US to put strain on russia and its backfiring bigtime.
and dont even get me started with all the incentives the biden family has in private interests over there.
You subhuman dogshit still believe Russians still have rights to negotiate anything.
I am Hansjürgen from Niedersachsen Okrug and I agree, Russia good, Khokhols bad
>Separatists in other country
>I have to invade
Imagine being this moronic. Not to mention Russia's annexation of Crimea without any declaration of war which saw Russia sending in thousands of "volunteers" and "concerned citizens" as if they never ordered it. Interesting how the separatists didn't start getting bombed until they tried to secede and join Russia. It's almost as if they brought it on themselves. Also, Russia only cares about NATO expansion because it gets rid of their ability to bully and invade their neighbors without severe consequences.
I know you're gonna refuse to acknowledge this comment, but consider the following:
1) it never happened
2) knowing what we know now, it would have been wise if Ukraine had killed the injected Russian diaspora because of their willingness to rape women and children, loot, and lie all with Russian government support.
Make of that what you will.
knowing what we know now it would be wisest to send the army against euromaidan.
ultimately revolutions are about what people feel is wrong.
they should've taken power of the part of the country that supported them. not everyone did, and so we have a war now.
This. Hilary campaigned on starting a proxy war with Russia in Syria. They rigged 2020 to ensure they got their war.
>don't invade neighbors
>foreign powers can't proxy war you
This actually makes putin look even more moronic. Not sure why you'd put this idea forward.
>and russia wouldnt be invading if the US didnt direct their pet in ukraine to start rounding up and killing russian separatists and then refusing to even sit at the negotiating table with russia to sort out sanctions and nato expansion when their tanks were literally at their bordera and have been there multiple times pleading for a deal.
This anon is is mentally ill, he is having a mental episode.
Schizophrenics often have these episodes, at one point they're chased by monsters, the next the "evil west" has set up an invasion force in their bedroom closet etc.
They even believe in imaginary places like "Donetsk people's republic", a fantasy story fabricated by the illegal Moscow regime for their psychiatric hospitals for testing the sanity of the patients.
Whatever his medical status is, one thing is certain - the illegal war started suddenly and without a single reason by Russia has destabilized Russia and is going to lead to the downfall of their nation. We can only hope that this does not affect the treatment of psychiatric patients like this poster.
>Civilians wouldn't be endanger if Russia didn't invade to begin with.
/thread
Hello, am Richard Smith from Louisiana oblast, I find this to be truthful and concerning. Where is retweet button?
are you homosexual morons just going to keep repeating this line when confronted with info that disrupts your head-canon?
you sound like Norks worshipping "le great leader!!!!". Does Zelensky shit lightning and fart thunder too?
I just don't care what the Ukrainians do.
They could toss Russian wounded into wood chippers and i would still not give a shit.
Start shit, get hit.
>Start shit, get hit.
stop talking like a black person. sloganism is moron-tier.
I just don't care what the Russians do.
They could cut the balls of every Ukrainian male in a uniform and I would still not give a shit.
Frick around and find out.
You're the bootlicking homosexual here m8 - kys.
ah yes because worshipping NATO is totally different and not bootlicking at all. don't you have some pride flags and blm statues to put up?
gonna put one up in your backyard m8
its pathetic that you own any to "put up", they're probably the only things you own that are getting up
I'll put one up your backpipe m8, will make you like it also.
>Amnesty International
OP is a Black person
worse
he’s either an arab or a scandinavian commie
How do you protect a city population without establishing bases within the city?
What kind of stupid animal would do such thing
fake. there's no internet in kherson I've been told so
those are frickin' medical units, no shit they're setting up shop in a hospital
Cope
>country being invaded forced to fight in its own cities might be endangering civillians or risk endangering its civillians by being put in filtration camps if they don't
Wow shocking info there. How about possibly being in danger doesn't exempt you from actually being a useful organisation and helping those endangered civvies out by going there and helping instead of staying as far away from having to do any real work? Amnesty is such a waste of resources, they always say this shit and do nothing.
Hmmm why don't you post the source? I'm assuming it's one that thinks you can hide a HIMARS in the second floor of a multi story building or Ukraine is making super mutants.
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/
>amnesty
So basically a group which thinks if you don't give 600 terrorists comfy digs, you're on the same level as the Soviet gulag. They sound like some real sharp individuals.
Amnesty.
Everybody's dogpiling that woman on twitter right now, especially people who have any familiarity with past wars.
Or those that saw her post about what a big drama access to abortion is, only to follow it with this stunt.
It's almost as if somebody is paying her to discredit Amnesty, but I am confident it's purely a lack of awareness.
Amnesty acting like denial of abortion is a humans rights abuse is pants on the head moronic. Not every country or state limits abortion to just before viability. So in those cases you're supporting infanticide.
Good. It would be better to fight until every last man, woman, and child is dead than give in to Russia. Using children as suicide bombers is preferable to them having to live under Russian occupation.
Still doesn't endanger them as much as being under Russia even in peace time would
Good afternoon friend my name Johnny Rocket from Texas Oblast, I am believing this is very truth.
Russians are doing the same
>Filipino citizens eaten by Japanese deserved it for not fleeing Manilla
tbh if my city was being invaded id probably be doing the same, you can catch me at some place you wouldnt expect me sniping your dome piece off
if i was innawoods it would be different
simple as
English improving fellow Oblast Worker.
LMAO how are you supposed to defend CITIES without fighting in civilian areas?
this is what russians keep saying but hohols keep crying "nooo wtf evil russians keep destroying our cities, how could they do this!!!!" as if city fighting isn't part of modern warfare.
hohols will say just about anything to blame russia for something.
Maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded a sovereign nation for no reason.
>russia invaded so that means i'm allowed to be a fricking moron and make points that aren't based in reality or logic
idk that sounds like cope for you being low IQ
>the invading party is to blame for shelling the country they are invading
>not based in reality or logic
>low IQ
again, you're mentioning "blame" when that was never a factor in the conversation. We're talking about the inevitabilities of modern warfare and how ukies cry when their buildings get destroyed, even though thats a very basic part of war.
War is war and it takes two to tango. Maybe ukies should've surrendered instead of "fighting to the last ukrainian" and losing everything.
maybe russia should not have invaded for literally no actual reason? how about that you stupid Black person?
That's never been the way of the world, you need to grow up.
Name a single time throughout history where an invader asked if they could invade.
>Russia hasnt evolved since the birth of humanity
wow, now thats an achivement of self realiziation.
So you don't have an answer, gotcha. Not greece nor egyptians nor persians nor Rome nor The Celts or Germanics or Balks or any invading nation throughout time has ever asked for permission.
He said they shouldn't have invaded, not they should have asked for permission.
okay well it doesn't matter what "should" or "should not" happen because they're already invaded.
the invaded never think they should be invaded, that wouldn't make any sense.
maybe russia should not have invaded for literally no actual reason? how about that you stupid Black person?
just let blm and antifa riot and beat you dude, if you resist you might end up dead !
>War is war and it takes two to tango
>Maybe ukies should've surrendered
...this is the most moronic thing ive ever read.
literally how is one this moronic ?
you can literally apply this "logic" to any violent encounter, from rape to torture to a self defence shooting.
>you can literally apply this "logic" to any violent encounter, from rape to torture to a self defence shooting.
why yes, yes you can. congrats on figuring that one out. Rape and Torture are both terrible horrific things, but fighting back has never made the experience better. When a woman is raped and tries to fight back, it quickly ends up with her being murdered. While yes she SHOULD fight back against her rapist, she should realize that doing so is a great risk to herself, moreso than just taking the rape.
unless the attacker is weak like Russia
>fighting back has never made the experience better
>just taking the rape
>/k/
So you think if a man rapes a woman and the woman starts punching and scratching him, he's just going to get up and leave? holy frick you're an idiot.
>just take the rape
if you value your life, yes. would you rather get a bullet to the skull?
>if you value your life, yes
>he's resorted to the 5 year old tactic
put down the keyboard and go outside, sis
I'd rather use the gun my friend, NATO, gave me and kill the attacker. Or wound him and rape him.
That's the quintessence of the pussian mentality. "Don't resist, you wouldn't want to turn this rape into a murder."
>excusing rapist
You are pathetic, anon
>captcha: NGRTT
you're going to have to point me to where i said rape was okay, because i never said it.
my statement was the FACT that if someone is raped, fighting back might get them killed. if you don't agree thats okay, but i'm correct.
By that logic, Russia should have give up and submit herself to Nazi Germany.
Hitler was trying to de-communize and free the russian people but they decided to fight their liberators and lost over 20 million for it. Fricking crackhead commies.
Yes, they should've. If Nazi Germany gained control over Russia where would've never been a Communist Russia or USSR, and the USSR wouldn't have been able to influence China and other South East Asian countries to becomes Communist.
Nazi's taking over Russia would've unironically been a great thing for world history.
you're on /k/
we believe the woman should be carrying a service knife, a .22 holdout, a 9mm automatic, a 10mm automatic because 9mms are for wristlets, a fully-automatic rifle, a 10-ga shotgun, a halberd and a spear for self-defense.
And also, preventively shoot the village rapist, because this isn't Moldova.
>no axe or machete
NGMI
What is the halberd if not an axe-pick-pike combo?
>dont fight back
have a nice day
I know this is a rhetorical question, and you're a fricking moron who can't fathom this, but the single best thing you can do to prevent an attempted rape from becoming a completed rape is to struggle so much you make it difficult or you inflict a defensive injury.
Most rapists have done it before and do not like having to rape and murder or murder you beforehand. If they have a scratch mark and you have a chunk of skin under their fingernails they have a fricking problem. They are aware of this and will find an easier target or at least try again another time.
But again, you're a b***h so the thought of resisting anything seems lost upon you.
>you should just take it
i expect nothing less from a vatnik cuck
fight me
lmao you vatniks are such cattle, no wonder you take to autocrats so naturally
This whole post makes a lot more sense when you realize it was written from the point of view of the rapist.
"don't fight back or I'll kill you", "it won't make the experience better", the strange assumption of chivalry on the part of the attacker, the fact that torture is just accepted as part of the experience.
I'd expect no less from a russian
It's probably more pathetic than that tbqh
My guess is a western brownoid pro-putin incel, who naturally identifies with anyone who cant get women to consent to sex with them and reflexively rationalizes on their behalf
>This whole post makes a lot more sense when you realize it was written from the point of view of the rapist.
You've only just spotted this? The pro-rapist vibes were obvious in an earlier post.
>inevitabilities
>ukies cry
>should've surrendered
the countries that surrendered during ww2 turned out better off after the war than the countries that didn't, except those that usa propped up. czechia vs poland.
You're right, the Soviet Union should have surrendered.
>the countries that were outside soviet union influence turned out better
>US did this
>czech republic
>outside sovet influence
educate yourself.
>ooga booga getting shot during a robbery is just part and parcel of the big city life, quit your whining cracker
>blame russia for something.
It's almost like Russia invaded or something.
> puccia is the one trying to occupy cities yet its the ukrainans who are actually to blame for defending themselves
Fight wherever you feel like just don't complain when a school gets bombed because you station soldiers in there?
Have you considered just not launching criminal wars of conquest on your neighbors? It's literally that simple.
What always leaves me scratching my head. Why didn't Russia occupy Donbass in 2014 when they drove right through it. Or at least set up a peace keeping force of some kind. It's almost like it wasn't valuable until all those gas pockets were discovered a few years later.
They tried. They failed. They literally couldn't advance any further due to all the deep rooted issues that were made plain for everyone to see during their February invasion. If anything Russia was in an even worse shape in 2014-2015.
Because Russia got checked hard back in 2014.
If Obama was not a pussy, the problem could have been ended there.
The current invasion is the result of 8 years of preparation and has seen the latest and greatest Russian weapons, as well as the entirety of their standing army.
In 2014, they only had success because Ukraine was in an even worse state and because the USA president was a b***h.
Military bases in populated areas are normal. Thazs like complaining policestations are located in a town.
And anti-air in cities are normal too, otherwise you wouldnt protect civilians.
Russi is endangering civilians and everybody should complain that trainstations are in coties too!
Given Amnesty has basically confirmed all the accusations against Russia you should be trying to get then written off as imperialist propaganda.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/05/ukraine-russian-forces-must-face-justice-for-war-crimes-in-kyiv-oblast-new-investigation/
You notice how the source is always cut out?
yeah cause russia is famous for caring about civilians
this kinda whataboutism helps noone except fricking russia that started this shitshow in the first place
Who would have thought Ukrainian civilians would be in danger after getting invaded by Russia. Never would have guessed.
Lol amnesty international cries about anything and everything in regards to civilian casualties. If your enemy doesn't follow the rules then why should you?
wait, this war is still going? what happened to 5 days ro the Rhine?
>nooo stop defending cities
no
Amnesty is a homosexual b***h commie org lol at vatniks, lmao even
>It's martial law
>assign some army lads to keep hospitals safe (cops are already in TDF or can't cope with the workload)
>schools empty because there's a fricking war going on
>army uses these empty school buildings instead of actual inhabited residential areas
>oh my goooood this is a war crime
Okay Russia, maybe don't invade another country?
>another country
Ukraine is an artificial state occupying Russian lands.
all states are artificial
Some are more artificial than others.
like the russian federation, whose balkanisation is long overdue, and whose special needs operation has been pretty much halted by an "artificial" entity
Russia recognized it and agreed not to assail its sovereignty through various official documents including the Budapest Memorandum. Even if Maidan was a HATO CIA glowBlack person remote viewing op (NOT CLICKBAIT) like Russia says it was, that wouldn't undo the fact that their own documents recognized it as a sovereign and legitimate nation. Cope.
>"you should just let them take your cities"
Amnesty International moment
>asymmetrical warfare gets people killed
>concern trolling about "oh noez da civilians >w<" because Ukrops are actually smart about how they fight
>ignore the countless times where Russia gets bad intel, has bad actors, or is just moronic and bombs civilian structures
Amnesty International are fricking gays, get the frick off this board with your concern trolling nonsense.
>concern trolling
aka "stop complaining about things i support". You're a dishonest person, and so project your dishonesty onto others. You've been so mindfricked by 24/7 irony and shitposting you've forgotten that people have real beliefs.
tell me how you feel about civilian casualties in ukraine
they had a chance to leave but didn't. civilian deaths are unfortunate but again, they are a part of War and always have been.
Even in 1200 BC civilians were killed in War. Its like you're trying to ask me "how do you feel about people dying in war" like its some new-fangled invention.
so you're unconcerned but at the same time you're throwing in your lot with those who are expressing concern
weird
I am Bill from Arkanzas autonomous region and I concur, thank you for making exposings of these reddit CIA glownegers my bpat.
Kinda weird how you cut off the source from your screenshot.
Russians crying about how they look like monsters when they kill civilians is always funny though, so keep it up.
>vatnik shill thread
>1 hour old
>already 220 posts
Russia fricked up again and they try to cover it? Again?!
wonder how those pontoooooons are going
you're coping about how you're coping
I don't know how you people can keep this shit straight
Oh wait, it's russia, so you'll probably just rape it and say it's just for punishment so it's not gay.
>blahblahblahblah
cool post, now retake Donetsk and Lugansk and The Crimea.
See what I mean? Just yesterday you guys said that Russia had taken half of Ukraine and was poised to crush it once and for all.
Now your cope is that they haven't completely expelled you from their country.
You're not even calling it your country anymore, you're literally counting days until you lose Svestepol. It's fricking HILARIOUS watching you guys get buck broken in real time.
> Just yesterday you guys said that Russia had taken half of Ukraine and was poised to crush it once and for all.
idk who "you guys" are, i'm myself. Idk why people think Russia was "poised" to do that when they NEVER stated that was their goal.
This is what I mean about hohols being shitzo; you guys create your own reality of what you THINK is going to happen, and then act astounded when the nonsense you made up in your own mind doesn't happen. Russia never said it was going to completely annex ukraine, that is what Ukraine and the west said Russia would do, and now you're acting superior because Russia isn't doing the thing you invented in your mind that they'd do?
>Idk why people think Russia was "poised" to do that when they NEVER stated that was their goal.
Sometimes I forget that chronic alcohol poisoning affects memory. Then I ask a Russian about something that happened 10 minutes ago and am reminded.
it should be easy for you to find a statement them. find me a source where Putin said the goal of the "special operation" was complete annexation of ukraine. ill wait.
>demilitarize
requires complete control/neutralization
>denazify
requires boots on ground and reeducation camps
>battle map is two big offensives heading to Kiev
By tomorrow, the vodka will have erased all memory of these posts from the vatnik's mind, and he'll be back here insisting that there's absolutely no proofs that Russia wanted to annex all of Ukraine.
>Russia never said it was going to completely annex ukraine, that is what Ukraine and the west said Russia would do, and now you're acting superior because Russia isn't doing the thing you invented in your mind that they'd do?
Russia also said it wasn't going to invade at all. The actions committed since day one of the invasion show an attempt for an all out annexation of Ukraine.
>the VDV seizure of Hostomel
>Russian elite armored units drive to Kiev with fricking riot police
>staging amphibious assaults and probing attacks toward Odessa
>most of Russian PGM and cruise missiles targeted to weaken Kiev
>the hilarious spaghetti offenses to cut off Kiev
>fricking Lushashenko showing the plan
The plan was haphazardly made on a best case scenario that Ukraine would completely fold like the southern front. Instead we Russia had to retreat, regroup and rephrase the war as "securing just the Donbass". Which if that was the case, why the frick weren't they pushing harder in the east when they launched the fricking invasion.
>they NEVER stated that was their goal.
yeah we should hang on the words of the famously transparent russian state
>Ambassador Vasily Nebenzya denied any plans for invasion and said Russia was within its rights to station troops anywhere within its own territory. He stated "Not a single Russian politician, not a single public figure, not a single person said that we are planning to attack Ukraine."
Putin is angling to settle down into a Korea scenario of frozen conflict now. He got his balls chopped off after grinding down 20% of the poorest country in Europe. You're a joke, and your pitiful race is dead.
Kek, the US will push as long as it makes Russia bleed assets. They already taunt China for the next round.
>He got his balls chopped off after grinding down 20% of the poorest country in Europe.
Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now, as well as Russia controlling Europes gas, as well as getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested and forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies? Yeah man he's losing....
>Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now
You can't seriously believe this
>as well as Russia controlling Europes gas
kek
> as well as getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested
At least you'll save some Rubles since you won't have to pay those widows!
>and forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies
BMP-1s are better anyway!
Trolling needs to be subtle, but I guess you'll get your precious replies.
>Is that why the Ruble is doing so well right now
Post volume.
>getting to own chunks of Ukraine uncontested
Post ammo depots.
>forcing NATO to dry up their weapon supplies
KEK
>Ruble is doing so well right now
see image
>Russia controlling Europes gas
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/EU-Gas-Dependence-On-Russia-Falls-By-50.html
Your image is old and only tells a part of the story. Things have gotten much worse now.
Moscow stock exchange stopped posting trade volume, cant find anything more recent lmao.
Kek wow
Turns out turning off that gas money did a real number on the Rouble.
Turns out the only thing holding Russia up was the West, as usual.
You still haven't told how exactly russian speaking populations rights were getting taken away in a country that has a majority of its population speaking russian?
one example is the post-maidan government passing laws that would disallow classes in schools to be taught in russian, while they could still be taught in polish, which is a fractional minority in ukraine: https://www-osw-waw-pl.translate.goog/pl/publikacje/komentarze-osw/2019-06-11/ukraincy-nie-gesi-ustawa-o-jezyku-panstwowym-ukrainy?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
>The general intention of the education regulations is to close down schools with Russian as the language of instruction as soon as possible and to limit the teaching of Russian as a subject as much as possible, as well as to weaken the negative reaction of Hungary, Poland and Romania by postponing the final Ukrainianization of secondary schools with the language of instruction of these nations.
people of donbass felt this was a direct repercussion of their support for yanukovich. that the pro-maidan government wanted their culture eradicated.
ultimately revolutions are about what people feel is wrong.
and you feel that civilians getting fragged is a direct repercussion for their support of zelensky
>people of donbass felt this was a direct repercussion of their support for yanukovich. that the pro-maidan government wanted their culture eradicated.
>ultimately revolutions are about what people feel is wrong.
So it's basically just the slav version of "white genocide"
No wonder the poltards love them so much
Now a direct Ukrainian government source for this please.
>pass law making Ukrainan the language of official matters
>schools now teach languages of friendly european nations instead
so this is what cultural genocided against Russians looks like ?
not having the same priviledges as they did when they ruled the country ?
man they really are white dindus.
>school now is required not to teach the language you speak
cool and friendly.
>america makes ghetto schools grade eubonic slangs as "not grammatically correct"
cool and friendly.
>if i keep posting strawmen i win the argument
cool and friendly.
>strawman
its literally the same "cultural opression" meme vatnik.
>country i reside in teaches their langauge instead of mine
russians have a thing about language for some reason. when i read seething vattie comments on disqus or whatever they often say they'll take over the west and make our languages go extinct.
its that mongol blood
Maybe don't live in a country where you can't speak the language? This seems like a simple problem to solve. Just go to the giant country 20 miles away where they DO speak your language?
Or is there some reason why people might not want to immigrate to Russia?
>Maybe don't live in a country where you can't speak the language
that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron. it was their land, their homes and their right. they just wanted it to not be in ukraine. but new ukrainian government wouldn't let them.
>that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron.
Then why did they stay in a country where they don't speak the language? Why not go to the country where they do?
> it was their land, their homes and their right.
If that was true, why didn't that land use their language? See, you refute yourself.
> they just wanted it to not be in ukraine
I'm not sure if you know this, but Russia, the country where they speak the same language, is the largest in the world. There's plenty of places they could go and be perfectly welcome. Yet they didn't want to go there. Why not? Is there something wrong with living in Russia that makes people want to avoid it?
>Then why did they stay in a country where they don't speak the language? Why not go to the country where they do?
as
noticed they are in the process of going to russia even as we post. thanks to ukrainian government it was just much more bloody.
>as
Lavrov mentioned just a few days ago that both regions would be annexed directly into russia during a speech
Everything they have fought and died for since 2014 was a lie the russians were planning to annex them all along noticed they are in the process of going to russia even as we post.
They're not "going" anywhere. They're just throwing a hissy fit an watching their big brother get its ass kicked by NATO
>Is there something wrong with living in Russia that makes people want to avoid it?
It must be, considering most of the educated people left Donbabwe in 2014/2015 and moved Ukrainian controlled territories after russians did their stuff there.
Really makes you think
That's the one argument I've never seen them even address. Why didn't those poor, oppressed Russian-speakers just move 20 miles away into Russia, where they would be welcomed with open arms. Why would they not want to do that?
Either they weren't really oppressed, or Russia is such a hellscape that being bombed by corrupt troony comedians is still preferable.
Donbas was certainly mistreated pre-2014, but it wasn't at the level that Russia wants you to believe. Strelkov himself said that the seperation movement would have fizzled out just like in Kharkov and Odessa, if Russia hadn't moved in to organise them and take action.
>that's exactly what they fricking wanted to do you goddamn moron. it was their land, their homes and their right. they just wanted it to not be in ukraine. but new ukrainian government wouldn't let them.
headcanon
to be clear: you are claiming that russia invaded a european country because that country was requiring that schools teach in the ukrainian dialect rather than the russian one
>you must give CHAZ complete autonomy, while also providing them everything
Russia cucking for israeli Oblast and Chechenia doesnt mean others must do so as well.
>Ukrainian is borderline identical to Russian when spoken and written.
>Implying that by not teaching Russian and instead teaching Ukrainian in Ukraine this is the end of all life as we know it and makes life in Ukraine impossible.
Is this man taking the piss? WHO GIVES A SHIT? This is like saying because America wants to teach American English instead of British English because it's, surprise, America, that it's impossible for current British citizens to live in America and they're having their lives destroyed. This is such an incredible idiotic argument to make.
sure, to an uneducated american.
>attack country
>they FOR SOME REASON don't feel like teaching your language at schools
What a mystery.
you got your timeline messed up. but let me help you:
maindan was in 2012. shit started brewing between 2012 and 2014. in 2014 it exploded. i guess you were too busy jerking off during those years.
the article is from 2019. russia has been attacking ukraine for more than eight years at this point.
all articles ever write only about present events, yes.
so you're saying russia invaded because ukraine insisted that schools teach in the ukrainian dialect instead of russian? unhinged
Except the language law only came into effect in 2017 you gay
>0.02%
>republics
criminal thugs
>criminal thugs
said king george about the colonies.
And he was right. Masonic Amerisharts are gays, and so are your puppet soviet LARPers. These are not mutually exclusive positions, whataboutist shill.
Has Russia tried not shelling places in foreign countries?
>Amnesty International said
lmfao
>arm civilians
>get mad because your enemy is killing civilians
That's not what is discussed, moron. Regardless of what is your position, is not what the idiot sellouts at Amnesty are talking about.
You've got it backwards, Ивaн
>enemy kills civilians
>give your civilians arms
>moron didn’t see ukrain handing out arms to civs far from combat zones
ngmi
>inb4 /misc/ responses muh cope
that was in case of a bad outcome of the battle of kyiv... which you lost. we all know if russia took kyiv it would have gone door-to-door disappearing and shooting civilians.
>Dead criminal’s family complains victim’s AR-15 made the fight unfair
>the ar 15 justifies further transgression
>also arming people is bad
Those LA rioters didnt have a choice but to riot and loot, because the store owners were allowed to arm themselves !
This post (which is correct) shows why /misc/ will never be able to infiltrate here.
/misc/ is made of bootlicker, they will never understand /k/, even if they think they do.
Nevermind /k/, /misc/ of 2020 wouldnt recognize /misc/ of current year.
that would not be a problem had orcs not invaded their homes
How is getting invaded a free pass for endangering your own civilians?
Any decent commander would want to keep your own countrymen out of harms way. Of course sometimes tactical effectiveness has to be prioritized but don't act as if the ukrainian army doesn't get any choice on how they fight.
Frick Russia but this ain't it.
it's the best option
preferably using Russian-teaching schools
then it is a win-win
>vatniks using this amnesty thing as a win
>conveniently forget that amnesty holds russia responsible for bucha, irpin and basically every humanitarian crime committed in northern ukraine
Why did you think they splurged to arrange this? It's in their best interest to see Amnesty's credibility destroyed.
>Second Russian civil war thread #1917
I do not know how you guys do not get bored at some point
>waaah how dare the Ukrainian Army be in Ukraine! Abloobloobloo
Maybe they should take the war to Russia. Then no Ukrainian civilians will be in danger.
OP here, thanks for all the butthurt. Also didn't read
>thanks for all the butthurt
all i got from vatniks here, was how similar to leftists posting "ironic" groomer shit they are.
only the left has media black hole everything releated when one of the trolls turns out to be a pedo
but vatniks remain maskless
Intelligence services literally want more Black folk so they can spy in Africa easier lmao.