Explains their struggle with jet engine manufacturing. Requires little to no corners cut without proper approval and numerous testing, mind numbing amount of inspection phases, and troubleshooting production methods.
Because they realize they can’t really match what they steal due to production processes and how stupid expensive some components are. And trying to go 1:1 in terms of dropping all the expensive shit and swapping it with cheaper components might cause a need to redesign stuff on your end.
changs mindlessly copy without ever fitting it in their needs. Case in point explain why they need cheap dollar store burger carrier copies as a predominantly land based imperial construct
>inb4 taiwan
that is well within the range of mainland missile and airfields >inb4 south china sea
half of it is, yet again, in mainlands reach and the only reason they can shit around in the south is that the pridominant maritime powers have not bothered to throw them out of there yet
ok then why cant they even build a decent jet engine? you can literally give them the entire plans, in fact they probably have stolen plans for entire weapon systems. manufacturing it is another thing altogether. a modern turbojet is insanely difficult to build to a high standard. the tolerances and material science are off the charts
I think the bigger mindfuck is we've decided it's getting old, and needs to be replaced by something that can style on the rest of the world even harder.
>We
I bet op isn't even American, and even if he is, of course he isn't one of the people actually building these planes
He's gloating about things other people did like he did it himself.
What a fucking loser lol
Why is stealth always considered to be difficult high tech?
The physics and math are very well understood and even the material science to implement coatings isn't actually secret anymore.
The B-2 and B-21 are quite low tech planes without any large technological challenge.
The formula student team from my university could design that shit.
I guess it's mostly to do with you guys being incredibly uneducated, getting all your info from discovery channel.
I think it’s just more expensive than anything. And while it’s sexy to field your air force full of stealth fighters and bombers, majority of countries would do better with more conventional planes than the very few stealth planes they can afford and maintain.
>Why is stealth always considered to be difficult high tech?
1) Special coatings that are extremely expensive/difficult to manufacture, procure, research, maintain, etc.
2) Stealth is a package that involves the airframe structure, materials used, capabilities/purpose of the aircraft, etc.
3) You need fucking money
I think the challenge isn't so much stealth, and more combining stealth with aerodynamics.
The more out of this world it looks like the worse it performs as a plane, the F35 is pretty much the most advanced plane for combining stealth with other features ( VTOL, short landings ).
Most countries outside of Africa can make stealth planes. It takes money to attract the engineers with the knowledge and build up the industry, but most developed countries can swing a few hundred billion over the span of a 10-15 years, it’s honestly not that much a lift.
BUT, that’s the rub — hundreds of billions that could be going into someone else’s pockets. Outside of a handful of elite high-IQ (ie 100 average) countries no one has the society able to resist basic top-down corruption and that budget will disappear into someone’s pocket. Of the high-IQ countries with top-down corruption under control, only ONE of them has the ability to essentially print the money for a stealth plane budget after everything else has been taken care — the United States. Of the other elite nations such a budget has to compete with much higher priorities, ie, paying civil servants and all the other inside political economy sinks. Because stealth planes don’t vote and their militaries have little pull within the polity…because the US protects them anyway.
what does scare your opponents more, 10 stealth bombers or 100 normal bombers?
it's not like you can't shoot down a stealth bomber if you really wanted, it still produces heat and sound
Why does it need to make its own stealth jets when it's a tier 1 partner in the F35 program, and who knows what capabilites Tempest will have if it ever enters production.
The USSR built one, and only one stealth aircraft but in 1982 the CIA stole it, and copied the russian tech to create what later became the stealth bomber.
>flying wing
Stays in air but not complicated big signal >engines on top
No heat signatures from ground >special surface that sucks radiowaves
No radar return signature
So what was the big deal again
>Not invisible against a trailing fighter jet >not invisible against optical missile that sees the object, altough most missions are done at night >cant move well if chased by jet
Fun Fact; >A Soviet physicist and mathematician called Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev developed equations for predicting the reflection of electromagnetic waves in the 1960. >At that time he worked for the Central Research Radio Engineering Institute of the Defence Ministry of USSR in Moscow, where he specialized in electronic warfare. >He presented his findings to the Defence Ministry of USSR who considered to be of no significant military or economic value. >Because of this he later gained permission to publish his research results internationally. >One of the people that had read the publication was a Lockheed engineer called Denys Overholser, who realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection. >This discovery inspired and had a role in the design of the first true stealth aircraft, the Lockheed F-117. Northrop also used Ufimtsev's work to program super computers to predict the radar reflection of the B-2 bomber.
Is piloting one a guaranteed pussy-pass?
Pretty much. Piloting anything guarantees a pussy-pass, even a Cessna.
even powered paraglides?
They get to tell people they fly these things nowadays?
Why wouldn't they? Talking about missions they've been on is most likely off limits but just saying yeah I'm a bomber pilot should be okay.
L-lewd
What's the point of having miltech supremacy if everything gets leaked to China?
The chinks dont understand the fundamentals. Even if they got it, they can't innovate to make it work
Explains their struggle with jet engine manufacturing. Requires little to no corners cut without proper approval and numerous testing, mind numbing amount of inspection phases, and troubleshooting production methods.
Ask yourself this question: would you buy an American car or a Chinese car?
There's your answer.
>would you buy an American car or a Chinese car?
If I would want to have a good car - then neither?
I prefer the German varietals when it comes to cars.
Because they realize they can’t really match what they steal due to production processes and how stupid expensive some components are. And trying to go 1:1 in terms of dropping all the expensive shit and swapping it with cheaper components might cause a need to redesign stuff on your end.
changs mindlessly copy without ever fitting it in their needs. Case in point explain why they need cheap dollar store burger carrier copies as a predominantly land based imperial construct
>inb4 taiwan
that is well within the range of mainland missile and airfields
>inb4 south china sea
half of it is, yet again, in mainlands reach and the only reason they can shit around in the south is that the pridominant maritime powers have not bothered to throw them out of there yet
>explain why they need cheap dollar store burger carrier copies
Beijing fears the mighty Hargeisa-Taipei alliance.
ok then why cant they even build a decent jet engine? you can literally give them the entire plans, in fact they probably have stolen plans for entire weapon systems. manufacturing it is another thing altogether. a modern turbojet is insanely difficult to build to a high standard. the tolerances and material science are off the charts
cargo cult
It's also outdated and no one else has caught up STILL
no you aren't you retard
I think the bigger mindfuck is we've decided it's getting old, and needs to be replaced by something that can style on the rest of the world even harder.
Sadly none of these will ever be used against a competent adversary so we'll never find out whether they actually do the job.
>We
I bet op isn't even American, and even if he is, of course he isn't one of the people actually building these planes
He's gloating about things other people did like he did it himself.
What a fucking loser lol
Now this is the biggest cope & seethe post I've seen all week. Good job anon, and kys
Jealousy is a cope.
Reminds me of this Doug Stanhope bit
Make what? I dont see anything.
>we're the only ones whose economy depends on bombing people 5000 miles away in endless wars
>t.
wely implessive
Not as implessive as this. Watch out amerimutts!
that's just cute.
that's not just a kid moment they're being taught to do that
Why is stealth always considered to be difficult high tech?
The physics and math are very well understood and even the material science to implement coatings isn't actually secret anymore.
The B-2 and B-21 are quite low tech planes without any large technological challenge.
The formula student team from my university could design that shit.
I guess it's mostly to do with you guys being incredibly uneducated, getting all your info from discovery channel.
>We could do it, but we won't because, uh....
you
I think it’s just more expensive than anything. And while it’s sexy to field your air force full of stealth fighters and bombers, majority of countries would do better with more conventional planes than the very few stealth planes they can afford and maintain.
>Why is stealth always considered to be difficult high tech?
1) Special coatings that are extremely expensive/difficult to manufacture, procure, research, maintain, etc.
2) Stealth is a package that involves the airframe structure, materials used, capabilities/purpose of the aircraft, etc.
3) You need fucking money
Anon, creating a stealth flying wing that can fly in any weather to drop a bomb almost anywhere in the world is anything but low-tech.
It is an overkill when your enemy still fields propeller bombers but, hey, gottat stay ahead of the curve.
That thing looks like a bitch to fly.
I think the challenge isn't so much stealth, and more combining stealth with aerodynamics.
The more out of this world it looks like the worse it performs as a plane, the F35 is pretty much the most advanced plane for combining stealth with other features ( VTOL, short landings ).
>we used to be the only ones able to make this by stealing german patents and scientists
>now we're a braindead muttnaggerislamwoketrannynation
>his country has never been to the moon
Show me the German patents for stealth aircraft.
>Polish copy of german Wunderwaffe here just for you
>Ho 229
>Stealth aircraft
C'mon, bro.
What else do you think he meant then? Nazi UFOs or what lol.
>he bought into the chinese-made us decline narrative
ngmi
Most countries outside of Africa can make stealth planes. It takes money to attract the engineers with the knowledge and build up the industry, but most developed countries can swing a few hundred billion over the span of a 10-15 years, it’s honestly not that much a lift.
BUT, that’s the rub — hundreds of billions that could be going into someone else’s pockets. Outside of a handful of elite high-IQ (ie 100 average) countries no one has the society able to resist basic top-down corruption and that budget will disappear into someone’s pocket. Of the high-IQ countries with top-down corruption under control, only ONE of them has the ability to essentially print the money for a stealth plane budget after everything else has been taken care — the United States. Of the other elite nations such a budget has to compete with much higher priorities, ie, paying civil servants and all the other inside political economy sinks. Because stealth planes don’t vote and their militaries have little pull within the polity…because the US protects them anyway.
stealth itself is easy but it's much cheaper to produce standard airplanes
stealth is just a decisions between quality vs quantity and shitty countries will just go for quantity
>retards who know nothing about stealth also act like it's some impossible achievement
same retards who believe all the bs from elon musk
what does scare your opponents more, 10 stealth bombers or 100 normal bombers?
it's not like you can't shoot down a stealth bomber if you really wanted, it still produces heat and sound
>stealth bomber usage drops to 0
Based. The U.K. has really shown their ass by not being able to make any stealth jets
Why does it need to make its own stealth jets when it's a tier 1 partner in the F35 program, and who knows what capabilites Tempest will have if it ever enters production.
The USSR built one, and only one stealth aircraft but in 1982 the CIA stole it, and copied the russian tech to create what later became the stealth bomber.
Dream on ivan
You say that, but...
>flying wing
Stays in air but not complicated big signal
>engines on top
No heat signatures from ground
>special surface that sucks radiowaves
No radar return signature
So what was the big deal again
>Not invisible against a trailing fighter jet
>not invisible against optical missile that sees the object, altough most missions are done at night
>cant move well if chased by jet
Again whats the big deal.
>>we're the only ones who can AFFORD to make this
>we
LMAO, OP is boasting about things other people built as if it was his own. How sad and pathetic must one be for that?
I worked on the program you faglord
Yes "we" they couldn't built it without my tax dollars
Fun Fact;
>A Soviet physicist and mathematician called Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev developed equations for predicting the reflection of electromagnetic waves in the 1960.
>At that time he worked for the Central Research Radio Engineering Institute of the Defence Ministry of USSR in Moscow, where he specialized in electronic warfare.
>He presented his findings to the Defence Ministry of USSR who considered to be of no significant military or economic value.
>Because of this he later gained permission to publish his research results internationally.
>One of the people that had read the publication was a Lockheed engineer called Denys Overholser, who realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection.
>This discovery inspired and had a role in the design of the first true stealth aircraft, the Lockheed F-117. Northrop also used Ufimtsev's work to program super computers to predict the radar reflection of the B-2 bomber.
I don't think /k/ can make shit
Bomberd are obsolete