welp, there goes your bridge lol. so, what will be the next step for ukrainians?

welp, there goes your bridge lol.
so, what will be the next step for ukrainians?
>Russian occupiers unable to repair crucial Antonivskyi bridge destroyed by precise Ukrainian HIMARS strikes
>Occupiers try to find repair specialists in Crimea as no locals available. now can't transfer ammo & equipment to Kherson - OblHead aide Khlan
https://nitter.it/EuromaidanPress/status/1550137813051506690#m

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then they cross at the dam instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A 100km longer route going through a single choke point in range if artillery

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        isn't there a train bridge not far away?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Got concermed and then looked at Google maps, that shit is fucking forever away, doesn't matter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      one route

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dam isn't a good target, but there is a small bridge over the locks on the south side that could be destroyed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's also easy to fix. but also easy to target, of course.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a shame Ukraine signed that dumb canada treaty so they can't FASCAM that shit.
      Though they signed the cluster bomb one too so the funny cheese wedge assortment would probably still be verboten.
      Can you leave a treaty? I imagine anyone next door to Russia would want to have a healthy mine stockpile like the Sorks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is it meant to look like a block of swiss cheese?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's meant to stack evenly into a cylindrical cross section, so yes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, just like mice Warsaw Pact infantry cannot resist cheese.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Can you leave a treaty?
        Varies by treaty. For this one, Article 20 governs withdrawal, and says any government can leave the treaty just by saying they're quitting, stating reasons, and waiting six months. However, it looks like withdrawal isn't allowed in the middle of a war, so they'd have to wait until the war is over. Which is kinda stupid, especially since Russia didn't sign the treaty and so is free to go ahead and use antipersonnel mines whenever it wants.

        https://geneva-s3.unoda.org/static-unoda-site/pages/templates/anti-personnel-landmines-convention/APLC%2BEnglish.pdf

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this isn't a war though it's just a special military operation.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tovarisch just put wooden plank over hole is good as new!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically and with sheets of metal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        prepare the vatnik anuses for some heavy kino as the HIMARS fire up during this hi IQ Russian manouver

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And to think the entire Kherson front could have been avoided if they blew the bridge on the first day

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Russian administrator of the region told TASS that the bridge is going to be closed and will require special repair teams flown since the architecture is quite different from bridges in the Donbass. I'm sorry to tell you but those potholes knocked out the shortest way to supply Kherson.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Special repair teams

      Bridge isn't going to LAST that long, lol.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >vansil and his crew drive a t-64 over it
    >whole bridge colapses

    also didnt they anounce a counterattack doesnt ua laso need that bridge ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, they can go through Dnipro and zaporozhina
      Rusnigs would blow it anyway while retreating

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the neat part, the bridge gets blown up BEFORE they retreat

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the neat part, the bridge gets blown up BEFORE they retreat

        Can we haz "*WHILE* they are retreating?"

        Plox?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >doesnt ua laso need that bridge
      Everybody know the moment Russia loses Kherson they'll blow the bridge upon retreat. It makes more sense to destroy it now to hinder Russian supplies from crossing it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes the famous twitter counterattack that even the Okrainian troops are laughing at.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't look too bad, or does this already make the bridge prone to collapse?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russkies noticed there more significant damage underneath the pavement and closed the bridge off. Light vehicles can still cross it but moving heavy stuff over it could be dangerous.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fun facts! did you know? Russian has no native words for "common sense" or "safety standards"!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >russian closed it off for safety
        holy shit bridge is actually kill

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          those cables are holding tension in the concrete. without that support the concrete more or less falls apart. concrete is good with compressive strength but has terrible tensile strength. it'll crumble if enough cables go.

          Like [...] said, those cables are providing tension. Tensioned concrete is essentially a leaf spring, it's pushing up against the load of traffic, and prevents the girder from flexing down too far, which would eventually cause it to fail. It also let's you use less material to build a bridge of the desired strength.
          Without the cables, the bridge won't instantly crumble and collapse, but it would be much weaker and likely collapse after a few heavy loads.
          Not an engineer though.

          Getting Moskva vibes somehow.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't worry, anon. The bridge was only damaged by a cigarette. There is proof that the bridge made it back to port on its own power.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kek.

              This is all the holhols shills have

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, just the flagship of the once proud Black Sea Fleet, the one that lost control over over the Snake Island.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The black sea fleet is the same fleet that had to evacuate from Sevastopol, right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pls post the ruskie >we have aistrike at home as well if you have it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >flagship sinking up to its deck listing like 30 degrees
                >all they have

                idk if that's all they have it's pretty good, wasn't the special military operation supposed to be over by now btw, slavaboo?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Give him a break it's only day 149 of their 3 day operation I'm sure they'll accomplish something soon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Describe the great achievements of the Russian Army since February 24th.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russkies noticed there more significant damage underneath the pavement and closed the bridge off. Light vehicles can still cross it but moving heavy stuff over it could be dangerous.

      To be fair it looks like average eastern European road, soI don't even know why did russian really close it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not a bridge architect but it seems that things has some unusual architectural decisions which make it more difficult to fix it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it is built on the principle of cables
          It's 100% a beam bridge without a single cable.
          Why do they do it? Why do they keep lying, even in the fact of pure facts? Why? WHY????

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Check the video

            It's still crossable.

            . There are clearly cables running underneath the pavement and they're fucked.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, the cables are coming undone.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >When the pretensioned slabs are no longer tensioned
              Yeah mate, that's fine, no big deal, drive some tanks across it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gotta take them all across in one train for the sake of time efficiency. Don't worry about the sounds of concrete cracking.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hail Satan and get your phone out. Actually live stream it, so you don't forget to post it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Crow

              its called Rebar. it is a structural component of concrete. it keeps the tension on the bars and compresses the concrete. simple 1st grade stuff.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone knows what rebar is, gay, it's the steel *cable* in the dead middle of the pic that's of concern, and no the rebar doesn't keep tension between separate blocks, or a block and a beam.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it keeps the tension on the bars and compresses the concrete.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or else it gets the hose again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                actually made laugh anon, good one.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're so right. You can drive a T72 over it first.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spans look like prefabs with some pre-tensioning cables in them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cables
          Doubt it, from the pictures I've seen from the bridge it isn't held by cables

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            see

            https://i.imgur.com/Niehmeg.jpg

            Check the video [...]. There are clearly cables running underneath the pavement and they're fucked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vatniks have never seen prestressed concrete and can't fix couple potholes.
          Hahaha

          I will not talk about methods of repairing prestressed concrete since Ivans visit this sub.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's not prestressed, it's post-stressed. even worse if you want to fix it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >To be fair it looks like average eastern European road
        Kek, my thoughts exactly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a concrete box girder bridge. If the long, parallel concrete beams are damaged under the road deck, it's no longer safe to cross. It would be different if it were a truss/cantilever/suspension bridge.

      https://i.imgur.com/LuNlpd1.png

      Not a bridge architect but it seems that things has some unusual architectural decisions which make it more difficult to fix it.

      >the concept of post tensioned concrete bridges is a strange and foreign concept to the moskal
      I shouldn't be surprised

      >it is built on the principle of cables
      It's 100% a beam bridge without a single cable.
      Why do they do it? Why do they keep lying, even in the fact of pure facts? Why? WHY????

      Likely uses cables to tension the box girder sections. There's a TASS video in another thread that shows the hole going straight through the box girder, with fraying steel cable in the gap.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To make things worse it was build by a construction collective from Mykolaiv in 1985. So if any plan of the bridge survive to this day they're not available to the Russians.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >literal fucking holes all the way through
    >in such a distribution as to amke the bridge impassable
    >"It's just a pothole, it's just a pothole!"

    That is some Monty Python shit you're engaging in, vatnig.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they'll figure something out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This image makes me so mad
        I bet those morons not only can't repair the bridge, they kept breaking it on purpose for fun

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          happy ending for this one

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What race placed that there?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >until someone cuts it up for scrap value

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wow instead of reconstructing the bridge as it was before they just slapped some metal crossing that is used for house building that some westerners donated to them.
            This is why Africans can't do shit. They should have been forced to rebuild the bridge as it was before instead of getting some solution donated to them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They should have been forced to rebuild the bridge as it was before
              Can't make a cripple run a race, anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then they can swim over the river for all I care. If they can't achieve civilization they don't deserve it's convenience.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you can.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not trying hard enough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If only he wasn't a violent hothead. What a disappointment Blade Runner turned out to be.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fuck dude, they are dirt poor Ethiopians where do you expect them to get the money, know how and materials to accurately reconstruct a Victorian era stone bridge?
              The solution they've got is perfect because it lets them safely use the bridge without doing any further damage AND can be easily removed once an actual restoration effort is able to take place

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That honestly looks pretty cool. Antiquity and modernity at the same time. Reminds me of this blown to pieces cathedral that was repaired the same way in Berlin as a war memorial I saw, but obviously evokes different sentiments.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They designed it in poly bridge

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I bet those morons not only can't repair the bridge, they kept breaking it on purpose for fun
          >1936
          >Middle arch of the bridge is destroyed by Ethiopian patriots to hinder the Italian invasion of Ethiopia. Farming plows were used to demolish parts of bridge which eventually collapsed, killing 40 persons including the resistance leader, Fitaurari Tamrit.
          >No significant repairs were undertaken afterwards, temporary crossing was on wooden logs and beams or by ropes.

          What race placed that there?

          >What race placed that there?
          The white man giving out gibsmedat of course.
          >23 February 2002
          >Bridges to Prosperity builds a metal truss bridge to span over the 12-meter gap of the missing arch. After 10 days of construction, the bridge is inaugurated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >arch destroyed in 1936
            >wait around 70 years for white man to come around and fix what he built
            that's literally 500BC technology, what the fuck.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair Ethiopia has a very bad time after WW2, from the 70s up until the 90s the commies waged a very brutal civil conflict

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >taxes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they kept breaking it on purpose for fun
          They actually did break the first repair/replacement, not for fun but because some of the local morons were running porter businesses to carry people or stuff across. Making it easy to cross again instantly ruined their extortion racket.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          imagine living with the burden this level of racism brings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the continent of Africa is 20 metres across
          That image is Ethiopia, they have their own pyramids from 1000BC and have been Christian since about 400AD. The rise of Islam mostly cut them off from the church but they were actually part of the original Christian world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ethiopia literally wuz kangz and shit. I'd go so far as to argue that they aren't even morons.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >history isn't real if it hurts my feelings
              Alright fair enough

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they have their own pyramids from 1000BC
            >"Heavily influenced by the Egyptians, Nubian kings built their own pyramids 1000 years after Egyptian burial methods had changed."
            lol, even back then they were millennia behind technologically and had to copy-cat. and even then: the tallest one built 2500 years after giza is still not as tall and had to be reconstructed multiple times.

            >have been Christian since about 400AD
            who gives a shit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Millennia behind Egyptians. Still ahead of whties

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there were no monumental structures in europe between 1000BC-500AD
                bro, stonehenge was built in 2500BC, the acropolis of athens 400BC, the coliseum of rome in 70AD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That carved church in Ethiopia is honestly more impressive than some piled rocks, or a couple stadiums. You're blinded by hero worship for a culture and history that's no more yours than the Ethiopian one is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those carved churches were built during medieval times and were pretty small.

                Here's what Europeans were building in that same timespan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stonehenge, the acropolis, the coliseum
                >"some piled rocks"

                >nubian knockoff pyramids
                >wow, bronze age wakandan technology

                Yeah, okay.

                >You're blinded by hero worship for a culture and history...
                I don't give a shit either way. The only point is that you made a false claim and got called on it. You're the one with an agenda that includes distorting history - not me.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can, they simply have to leave all their little toys behind

      No military vehicle is crossing that bridge, its a big risk

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well that didnt stop them before

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its a big risk
        so it' s decided. they're gonna try it. think like russian general - you might loose a few conscripts and collapse ukraininan bridge, but you'll most likely manage to get few back and deny enemy capturing them. If you're real clever you start with lightest vehicles and get them all across until you find the limit.

        OTOH i'ts more likely they actually try to send more reinforcements across.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just potholes in bridge private, now drive blyat

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No military vehicle is crossing that bridge, its a big risk
        When has that ever stopped the Russians?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is absolutely no way to safely distribute the load over the damaged area

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is absolutely no way to damage that, as well

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lay more bridges

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't, river's too wide for quick military bridges.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's still crossable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for a fucking civilian car. try that with materialo that actually matters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was from ~2 days ago, before the last strike put another couple holes in.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only light vehicles. Which amusingly means the Russians can't resupply, but can retreat...as long as they abandon their heavy equipment. No idea what Ukraine plans to do with those T-62's they're about to be gifted as a goodwill gesture by Russia...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trucks are like 10 tons at most, quick repairs on top and everything is fine

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          one medium truck might be 10t loaded. but good luck supplying thousands of troops and a city with 200k civilians while having trucks cross one (or ten) at a time driving 10kph.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's like plugging cavities in your teeth with paper mache.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      [...]

      Please try and cross it, also please record the crossing from a distance.

      Russian failure makes for great PrepHoleino

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >please record the crossing from a distance.
        Pussy. I want guncam footage

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I want both. Let's see as much as we can of such a glorious sight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Show supports but I wouldn't even walk on that fucking thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >drive compact across for camera Vasily or you become barracks whore

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >drown in my lorry
        >or take dick
        I'd rather kill my superiour and then myself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gun it Sergei we can make i- ACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was shot at least one airstrike ago, there had been another one tonight, TASS reports.

      https://i.imgur.com/xsabeer.jpg

      there is absolutely no way to safely distribute the load over the damaged area

      35 meter gap max. 5 more meters and it's useless. Like any other bridge-fixing measure, this one is useless under enemy bombardment. You have to secure the area first.
      Pontooning isn't an option either, unless Russians are yet more retarded than people thought as of today, because it'll take the entire pontooning capability of the Russian Federation, and of course that pontoon bridge would be extremely easy to detect and destroy, like Severskiy Donets crossing on easy mode. There's no fixing this, except by pushing the entire Ukrainian force in the south 100 kilometers away from Kherson. If that could have been done, Russians would have done it a long time ago. This will only get worse for Ivan, like a hangman's noose that will only tighten as the hanged man struggles to free himself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There's no fixing this, except by pushing the entire Ukrainian force in the south 100 kilometers away from Kherson.
        So... 100 days of Russia focusing on that part of the front ?

        The last 20 days saw the Russians take barely 200 km2 while shelling the whole length of the front.
        Them trying for a 100 km push would be comical at best.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you only knew how bad things really are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those kinds of bridges have tendons running underneath the road, they basically make regular reinforced concrete stronger than even pre-stressed concrete. that makes them very cheap - a lot of highway bridges in the uk and other places are of that design. only problem is that if the cables fray, corrode or get cut outright - the whole thing might as well be made of tissues and good wishes. there is a reason why existing ones in the uk get inspected every year for even minimal signs of fraying or corrosion. with advances in pre-stressed construction these kinds of bridges have fallen out of favour and it even was outlawed in some places.

      fixing the road surface will do nothing to fix the structural damage, you need to get to the cables - untension them slowly (over days or even weeks) then put in new ones and tension them (again, over days or even weeks.) it's perfectly doable - in peace-time, if you close the thing for weeks and have experienced engineers working off plans. if you don't have the contrustion plans - add a few weeks for structural surveying. in short: the thing is essentially a bobby trap for anything other than pedestrians or a few cars at a time going slowly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good to know that if the Russian offensive needs a bunch of 1.3 hatchbacks on the front, they can still cross that bridge freely.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    watch they will continue to use it and we will get a video of russian vehicles going over it and collapsing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. they will try to use the bridge and sink a few tanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. they will try to use the bridge and sink a few tanks

      Let's roll for it .....

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This but unironically and with sheets of metal

    You guys seriously have no idea how badly the integrity of that road has been fucked with. It's not about making it good enough for some Ladas or Toyotas to cross, it needs to be capable of holding the weight of MBTs, SPGs, a medley of light armored vehicles, S-300 and 400 batteries, etc. Trying to cross the bridge with any heavy equipment is going to be a problem, and you can forget about moving them across in volume without creating a traffic jam.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More importantly it needs to bear the weight of all the trucks needed to bring ammo from the new depots outside HIMARS (well, for now) range.
      With the cables cut that segment of the bridge can collapse at any moment.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a concrete box girder bridge. If the long, parallel concrete beams are damaged under the road deck, it's no longer safe to cross. It would be different if it were a truss/cantilever/suspension bridge.
        [...]
        >the concept of post tensioned concrete bridges is a strange and foreign concept to the moskal
        I shouldn't be surprised
        [...]
        Likely uses cables to tension the box girder sections. There's a TASS video in another thread that shows the hole going straight through the box girder, with fraying steel cable in the gap.

        Okay what would happen if Ukraine hit that bridge again and that cable got ripped apart?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          those cables are holding tension in the concrete. without that support the concrete more or less falls apart. concrete is good with compressive strength but has terrible tensile strength. it'll crumble if enough cables go.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We would get a Kherson kotel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like

          those cables are holding tension in the concrete. without that support the concrete more or less falls apart. concrete is good with compressive strength but has terrible tensile strength. it'll crumble if enough cables go.

          said, those cables are providing tension. Tensioned concrete is essentially a leaf spring, it's pushing up against the load of traffic, and prevents the girder from flexing down too far, which would eventually cause it to fail. It also let's you use less material to build a bridge of the desired strength.
          Without the cables, the bridge won't instantly crumble and collapse, but it would be much weaker and likely collapse after a few heavy loads.
          Not an engineer though.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thats weak sauce compared to some of the shit we have to deal with on a regular basis.
    t. PAfag
    >god I fucking hate pittsburgh

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >inb4 russia sends some conscripts in a t-55 across to test the load capacity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do conscripts know that they're completely worthless to the Russian state, or do they still harbour illusions?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they probably know but can do nothing to stop it. being a r*ssian is suffering. life has no value.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russians invented nihilism, that should tell you enough.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russians invented nihilism, that should tell you enough.
          I thought that was German Goths (sorry to be redundant)?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't be the first case. In soviet occupied Latvia they tested Kegums HPP dam by putting sand loaded trucks on until it collapsed to see how many tanks it can hold. AFAIK they just restored it same way and imposed weight limit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/1zlHGyw.jpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sauce to that clip? looks like a film prop

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's one of these, go get cultured you pleb.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Metropolis
          >actually saw the movie
          I appreciated their attempt of making a futuristic setting in the 1920s, but by god was the set falling off at the seams.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not a single marvel movie
          what a shit list

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anon... Sort your life out. I beg you. When you were a child is this what you imagined your future to be? A loner contrarian who's main form of communication with other people is by arguing and posting the same set of pictures over and over and over and over again.
    Sort your fucking life out, for yourself more than anyone

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >iphone moron saying that
    terrible satire, to say the least.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >brainwashed by bourgeois media
    My God, it's worse than I thought.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >"If you're not a useful idiot or contrarian then you're MSNBC"
    This is why you don't trust strangers on the internet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don’t watch msnbc, only proud American media like fox news
      >yep, now that’s a news station that cares about the working class

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Use a fucking pc you tard
        Stop shaming yourself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well you are right, basedjak poster uses iphone
            That's a natural combination

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Implying I watch TV/use either as a news source

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Keep crying gay, it's always so funny to see a schizo like you, go out and do something with your fucking government if you are so angry

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'm against the current thing
    See you in LWOP.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep the bridge is fucked. Time to back it up boys there is no way that military can cross a river the Ukies have won

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Easily forded

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hasn't Russia been destroyed on rivers a 10th the size of that river.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that'sthejoke.tiff

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Easily

        nothing is easy for orcs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right, anon. There's no way in hell the second strongest military on the planet wouldn't be able to use pontoons for example to bridge the river.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Since when is France a combatant?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >France
          >second strongest military on the planet

          I chuckled.
          Thank you anon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pontoons. The vatnik's natural enemy. Because: water.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Russ have long proven over the centuries and more recently that they have no affinity for floatation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >subtle request for pics/webms of Russian tanks stuck in rivers throughout the war
      I don't have any saved, but I know someone here can probably help you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Technically true. That river can't be pontooned.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we all have seen the result of vaniks pontoooning...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/s2VIw2E.jpg

        we all have seen the result of vaniks pontoooning...

        They announced they're considering pontoons as an alternative while the bridge is off limits.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pontooning within range of Ukie artillery
          It failed the first half-dozen or so times, it's bound to work this time!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh no no no

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'M PONTOOOOOOONING

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wish a bro would

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      let's go

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Speedway crossing
    It's a nothingburger. Russians are dependent on railways, and it's not that kind of bridge

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GMLRS strikes

    Neat. What's the warhead size? 100-250lbs? I see now why 1000 and 2000lb bombs are typically used for bridgework

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let's say they destroy this bridge, vatnigs retreat and destroy the last bridge as they do
    how are Ukrainians going to retake their nuclear power plant?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sadly they don't need it, there is a railway bridge nearby and Russian logistics rely on rail anyway. Now if someone knocked that out...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think they are bringing trains that close to the frontline though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, Russia won't send a train full of munitions that close to the front.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ... or would they now ?
        I can picture the firework from there.
        >Told you we only needed a single missile for THAT bridge.
        >All we needed was a little helping hand from Ivan himself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Unfortunately,

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about that armoured train they have?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Uh, anon, what do you think it's armored against? Artillery?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Not understanding the ukies can make as many more holes as needed.

    It's a message :
    >We can destroy your bridge
    >We can do so easily and quickly
    >We would rather not do it because it's useful for the people
    >But we will do it if it keeps being useful for your army.

    Basically, it left the option open to keep the bridge so civilians won't suffer too much from lack of supply.
    But the option to take it down is there and can be acted upon in a matter of hours.

    More important for us :
    It proves that HIMARS is really as accurate as advertised.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>We can destroy your bridge
      They disabled it already. The damage is way more serious than it initially appeared. Definitely more than $500.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just put asphalt in the hole

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That'd really be the USSR/Putin-Russia mindset in a nutshell.
          >Get told to put asphalt in hole.
          >Put asphalt in hole.
          >Asphalt falling straight through the hole into the sea below? People who show initiative by caring about such details get sent to gulag so very much not my problem.
          >Job done as ordered comvyn4kmander.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just put a piece of wood and cover it with dirt

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Just stretch a canvas across it showing an intact bridge.

              Reminder that this is the country that invented Potemkin villages.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Potemkin villages
                there is an village on Kherson frontline named Potemkin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even with how retarded copelord is, he matches the average understanding of infrastructure
        this is why bridges collapse and people get mad after neglecting a bridge for 60 years that it is falling apart. Infra is built to fail slow, that doesn't mean it's "working."

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tension cables visibly fraying
        Yeah, some cement and dirt and this bridge is good as new.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >armchair gay says the bridge is fine, just sprinkle some concrete on it
        Well that settles it, the bridge is 100% kaput

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God I fucking hate that pedo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As much as I hate the guy, the meme about him being a pedo is just that, a meme. His lesbian war novel is about a 17 year old. Which isn't pedo in any civilised nation (aka the majority of the western world).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing bad happens to post-stressed bridges when their tendons are damaged
        tell that to the people of genoa.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nothing bad happens to post-stressed bridges when their tendons are damaged
          If you've looked at the infrastructure of Russia, do you think they understand what's wrong with crossing that bridge?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hope they don't
            I also hope they film themselves discovering what's wrong with it

            >weak western weapons of ukraine barely even put hole in bridge!
            >comrade ivanovski conscriptovitch, grab phone and record of tank going over bridge!
            >AIEEEEEEEEE
            If there is a god listening, please make it happen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia will raise tamper and QPR will understand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wheelchair warlord should drive the first tank across if he's so confident of his assessment.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holes in decking is relatively easy to repair for most countries at least. Now if they took put a support then the Russians would be really fucked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a post-tensioned concrete structure: the cables underneath the deck are vital to its structural integrity. and unlike a traditional beam structure or even per-tensioned ones - the math is pretty finicky so just stringing some add-on cables is probably not going to fix the problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I didn't see the cable when I posted.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HIMARS strikes
    It was 155mm Excalibur, not HIMARS. Try to pay attention.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't need to be Excalibur. It's about 30km from nearest ukr forces. Easily reachable with base bleed L52

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This isn't even HIMARS. Just 155 shells with 1/10 the warhead.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    please please please let Russia have one last big, visible moment of historical-level cretinism left in her during this war. I want to see a column fall into the river.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukies need to hit that shit with the 300km ammo. Bigger payload.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    i hope russians do try to use it lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh tank of the lake, what is your wisdom?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys, I am a civil engineer from Russia and trust me, this bridge still can take a lot of beating. It is not safe for use obviously but our tanks and trucks still can drive on it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You first comrade

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dumb HATO think tiny holes will scare us*~~)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      drive across it and make sure to FILM it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ... how come the top of the bridge is rotting wood while the steel under it look nearly pristine ?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It just looks pristine because it's well painted steel. There's rust at the bottom though.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      great movie

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who would have thought the mighty Russian army would be stopped by some rivers? kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do the kneepads stay on during rape..?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's the whole point. don't need scratched knees on top of a ruptured anus.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        probably, how else is he gonna protect his knees when someone grabs his head and fucks it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What does the N stand for?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Nigeria with Snow"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The pothole is just where the rocket went through, the true damage is to the superstructure underneath

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >SINGLE WELD OF A CABLE
    Yes. Do go on and weld a pre tensioned cable and then drive across the bridge with heavy machinery. Make sure to livestream it too.
    Also, post guns.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This has been your threadly reminder that vatniks cannot into even basic life skills like welding but are all of them armchair experts of every topic.
    They make the average Soviet man look like a superman in comparison.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lying is cheap.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russians are culturally asiatic (mongol and muslim). They rape, steal, and tax like the mongol horde did, and lie like the muslims do.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    TASS is American media now? Damn things are really bad for Russia then.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol I remember some vatnig saying that Komsomolskaya Pravda Is ACKSHUALLY Western-alligned media after it published news about 10k Russian casualities somewhen in March.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else remember when Russoids were spamming that missile strike in Odessa? The one that only hit the pedestrian path on the bridge. Lol. Lmao. Rofl perhaps.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what does armchair copelord say about this? He was claiming Ukes had spent $150k to do $1500 worth of road damage and that this was a day's repair job at most. Has he recanted to maintain even a shred of whatever dignity he has left?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rockingchair Noncelord can't recant. FSB probably has CP kompromat on him.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >what is tensioned concrete
    That bridge is dead and unless you go like one heavy load at a time, it won't be able to sustain it. And even then, it might collapse after a dozen or so passes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >That bridge is dead and unless you go like one heavy load at a time

      i pity the first idiot who will drive a T-72 across just to test the bridge, i recommend wearing a swimsuit

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play the song.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fixes your hole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hasn't read the thread
      Does being a complete retard hurt mentally, or are you even too dumb for that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PrepHole - civil engineering experts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did you actually take him seriously?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I just like to insult Vatniks. Since they can't feel shame the least I can do is to make people aware that there's a chance to make themselves feel better by laughing at a certified retard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's a retard who needs sarcasm marks because hes a r*ddit autismo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares, Vatnik.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long before Ukraine attacks this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But anon, this bridge leads to the "Ethnically Ukrainian" Kuban, why we need blow up own land?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russian Nazis masquerading as Ukrainians? I'm shocked!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder what the ancients thought when they saw this stretch of water. Did they think 'We can build a bridge'. No. They built ships. Imagine some guy from 600BC looking at that bridge and being told they could walk along it with an entire army and it wouldn't break.

      And yet it is a military target.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still looks usable, in moderation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Still looks usable
      By pedestrians maybe, haha.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they destroy it in one go? Why destroying it in chapters?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With the bridge gone, could ferries from the other side help to alleviate some of the burden? I assume pontoons are out because they would just get shelled. Ferries could too ofc but are much smaller targets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ferries would be way too slow, we're talking like two orders of magnitude slower. And if you mean larger barges, those are just easy targets that can easily be seen by the NATO surveillance drones.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >could ferries from the other side help to alleviate some of the burden
      sure, if by "some" you mean 1/10000th of it
      >I assume pontoons are out because they would just get shelled.
      pontoons are out because the river is 1km wide at that point.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Potholes are the vatnik's natural enemy. Spooky how that worked out.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so it's a 2 hour detour to get to Kherson city via dam. Will help isolate the city in future ukie advance, expose Russian supply lines a bit. Not a huge deal though, least not for now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait until they start cluster-mining the dam bridge on a daily basis.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That beam actually runs abeam to the actual dam (you can see the gates in the pic) and the part that runs over the dam itself is just a railroad track that can't really support vehicles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *bridge

        Actually, sorry, I'm incorrect, the rails you can see in the pic are for this gantry thing. The rail line is on the other side of the dam and might actually be able to be hit as well without threatening it.

        The accuracy of whatever the fuck they've been shooting at the Kherson bridge is good enough to pop this one as well without harming the dam,

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah. whatever they're using (HIMARS or other guided munitions) has the accuracy to hit that if they can manage to delete one of those microwave comms trucks right near the dam with minimal collateral damage.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's also a very narrow smaller bridge crossing the lock before the dam where the road is right next to the railway. Could just take that out using GPS-guided whatever the fuck and wouldn't need to even scratch the dam really.

          Far easier than the main span to rebuild but just keep spamming it every day. Throw cluster mines in nearby for shits and giggles too.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >That post doesn't exist anymore.
    nice. very nice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Still up for me

      >https://nitter.it/EuromaidanPress/status/1550137813051506690

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i'm just talking about the s0oijak above lol

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      aren't you tired of this forced meme yet?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        aren't you tired of getting pounded in the asshole?

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Describe the great achievements of the Russian Army since February 24th.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Several oblasts in South Ukraine liberated

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        :0

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >so, what will be the next step for ukrainians?
    I told you the public ritual execution of Vladimir Putin anally in red square via a a convicted sex offender in a polandball outfit drugged with Viagra and cocaine while the few remaining lining members of the Russian population stand facing putin holding pictures of stalin and a brass band plays kalinka

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I told you the public ritual execution of Vladimir Putin anally in red square via a a convicted sex offender in a polandball outfit drugged with Viagra and cocaine while the few remaining lining members of the Russian population stand facing putin holding pictures of stalin and a brass band plays kalinka
      Reminder the entire red army choir died in a military plane crash

      28 Dec 2016 — Sixty-four members of the official choir of the Russian armed forces, men and women, were on the doomed plane, plus Lt-Gen Valery Khalilov
      Ah Russia...never change.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >28 Dec
        Don't you mean December 25th?

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why HIMARS? Isn't that bridge in CAESARS range? Also the holes look very small.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why HIMARS? Isn't that bridge in CAESARS range? Also the holes look very small.
      the holes are small becuase the rockets are punching through the thin road deck and exploding underneath.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So they were just hoping to hit the cables or hoping to make enough holes to do some damage?

        They already out of arty shells. Can't wait for hohol monkeys to cry when they run out of rockets, lmao.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you retarded? Honest question.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How did your boyfriend's cock taste last night? Honest question.

            When? They constantly keep running out because they can't fire enough of the things at R*ssians (who cannot help themselves but present hundreds of juicy targets). However, given the steady supplies from the West those are always temporary shortages.

            I heard US is donating another 4 HIMRAS to Ukraine. Does that make up for the ones the Russians already destroyed or no?

            Give him a break it's only day 149 of their 3 day operation I'm sure they'll accomplish something soon

            Putin will kill himself any day out of shame for not living up to the standards of some anonymous gay on a basket weaving forum.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://wartranslated.com/wagner-group-on-himars/

              > Like Scout said in one of the latest broadcasts – “The bulk of our problems is due to us f*cking lying to ourselves!”

              Why do you keep lying to yourself?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's unironically a way of life for them. No idea how it was before the S*viets took over but after them blatantly lying became part of their national culture and that hasn't changed since. For all its other flaws, the TV series Chernobyl captured that surprisingly well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The totally ridiculous story about the secret sale of HIMARS I believe does not need at all any logical reflections, since to seriously believe that someone on the internet would write about an unfinished deal, reveal the entire scheme, data on the sellers and buyers, and at the same time hope for the conclusion of the deal, it is all complete schizophrenia.
                kek

                Vatniks=schizos, confirmed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just asking questions, anon. HIMARS will be destroyed sooner or later.

                >thinking about dicksuck
                yep it's a russian

                You misunderstand. I'm only trying to be considerate to a typical American chud.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >HIMARS will be destroyed sooner or later.
                How? The Ukrainians know their own territory; they have satellite and drone live feeds; and they have night vision. They know exactly where the Russians are, and there's no reason to believe that, short a tremendous intelligence fuckup, they'd ever be so dumb to put their weaponry into range of Russian fire. And even if they did - so what? The HIM in HIMARS stands for "high mobility" - within minutes of having fired the system can be moved again, and arguable easier so since now it's not carrying a payload anymore. It takes time to get a fix on a system's location, to adjust your artillery to it, and then to fire.

                Short of the Russians constantly keeping taps on the front line (good luck doing that with the couple hundred drones that they're getting from Iran; I'm curious how they'll perform outside of Shia propaganda) or some traitor revealing their positions there's abso-fucking-lutely nothing the Russians can do.

                tl; dr: Vatnik cope is pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How?
                Patience. They know the HIMARS range and know that they are being used to hit high value targets. HIMARS exist outside of just traveling to and from a launch site and Russia still has air superiority.

                What I'm curious about is why Russia is still allowing Western resupplies. Sure, they can't shoot down a C130 because that'll cause a significant incident. But what happened to bombing roads and railways in Western Uki-land?

                https://i.imgur.com/RwSIINt.jpg

                >How did your boyfriend's cock taste last night
                I don't know, I am not Russian.

                chud hands typed this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia still has air superiority
                False. I refuse to believe people can be so retarded as to either believe this statement 5 months into the war, or be able to blissfully ignore the definition of air superiority.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK. Where is Uki air force?

                https://i.imgur.com/sf60eoi.png

                it really says a lot that russia can't find short-range rocket artillery that leaves smoke plumes pointing directly the launch site. having seen the absolute state of russian drones' optics, it's probably too blurry to discern the plumes. and perhaps this "air superiority" is more like air parity, given russia's persistent inability to delete a few poxy trucks.

                >But what happened to bombing roads and railways in Western Uki-land?
                inability, again

                YWNBAW.

                But the HIM stands for "Highly Mobile", anon. Don't you understand that these launchers just ZOOOOM away faster than your father after he nutted into your whore of a mother?
                >inability, again
                Would be nice for Russia to put their TU-160s to work. Making bombs doesn't require a lot of high tech imports, right?

                https://i.imgur.com/m8bkyHx.jpg

                >Patience
                The more time passes the more land lease will come into effect. The USA managed to sustain a much bigger country with a much bigger population eighty years ago. Meanwhile Russian demographics are absolutely terminal; technically they can't afford to lose any of their men, but the government cadre still think that Russian families have 7 children instead of less than two (if you're going to believe Russian propaganda, which I don't). Russia is destined to die; the only question is if it's gonna be a quick or a slow death.
                >my money's on quick death

                >Russia still has air superiority
                Then why aren't they flying any sorties? Oh, right, I forgot, because the Ukrainians have been shooting them out of the skies like the motherfuckers that they are.

                Just because you have more planes than the other side doesn't mean you control the skies, Jesus Christ.

                >What I'm curious about is why Russia is still allowing Western resupplies
                See above - they'd literally be shot out of the skies.
                >captcha: ADX PM

                >land lease
                FYI it's "Lend-Lease", you fat product of shitty American education.
                >Russia is destined to die
                Now post a picture of white births in America/Canada, lmao.
                >Then why aren't they flying any sorties
                They aren't? So all the vids getting posted on Telegram are from months and months ago, right? Lmao, cope, hohol cocksucker.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OK. Where is Uki air force?
                So you ARE legit retarded and don't know the definition of air superiority? It doesn't matter if your enemy owns not a single aircraft. You still don't have air superiority until you can actually, y'know, use your own. If you can't because your enemy has enough AA capabilities left to shoot them down the second they take to the skies then you have BY DEFINITION not achieved air superiority.

                Vatn*gs be wildin', man ...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, you are right. Let's not bicker over minutia, friend. After all, it's much harder to achieve air superiority against infantry with portable launchers than against a bunch of Afghans who live carry AKs and live in caves.

                https://i.imgur.com/S1Ofkmz.jpg

                >Now post a picture of white births in America/Canada, lmao.
                >whatabout America/Canada
                Typical Vatnik cope - but fine, let's play along. By the way: Canada != US.

                >Claims Russia is dying
                >Asked to post American white birth rates
                >"Nooo, you can't call us out for becoming a minority in our own country when our politicians import shitskins and mexicans, noooo!"
                lmao. Kettle, meet pot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you can't call us out for becoming a minority in our own country
                No one did. I said:
                >Meanwhile Russian demographics are absolutely terminal

                There's nothing about whites in there, you completely 4chan-addled retard. Absolutely no one of value cares about white births, including Russia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Absolutely no one of value cares about white births
                holy shit kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That includes you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You should care about white births, Deshawn Gonzalez. When whites are gone, who will pay for your welfare?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >deflection from the fact that Russia is dying
                I accept your surrender, Vatnik.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fascinating how you care about Russia's demographics but you think only worthless people care about America's.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                White births are not equivalent to demographics, retard.
                >also even more deflection
                >even more surrender

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >White births are not equivalent to demographics
                Genuine question, are you fucking retarded?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >including Russia.
                Of course, why would non-white shithole full muslim homosexuals care about white births?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heh, thankfully Ukies have more than just portable launchers. It's why the R*ssoid menace is in kind of a bind: Fly too high and get picked up and shot down by proper AA systems, fly too low and you get assraped by MANPADS, Stingers and so on instead. It's why we've seen these videos of those retards using their attack helicopters as ultra shitty indirect artillery by pitching up their noses and firing their unguided missiles in an arc.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Now post a picture of white births in America/Canada, lmao.
                >whatabout America/Canada
                Typical Vatnik cope - but fine, let's play along. By the way: Canada != US.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hohol cocksucker
                Vatnik confirmed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, I'm just a Nazi.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nah, I'm just completely retarded
                I can't wait to see you serving LWOP:

                https://i.imgur.com/HDBopUH.jpg

                [...]
                >I'm against the current thing
                See you in LWOP.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                allahu akbar to you too

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wew lad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go to sleep, burger. You'll be late to Mr Shekleberg's wage-cage tomorrow if you stay up shitposting on 4chinz.

                https://i.imgur.com/KC9bfQR.jpg

                >Do you really think I'm here to convince you?
                No, you're here because lying to other people's faces makes you feel powerful. Problem is that we're not afraid to call you out on your lies, and that's a problem for you.

                >calling out lies
                Go back to preddit, you war tourist. Nobody here speaks like that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Call the poster a chud/redditor/moron
                >it doesn't work
                Shift must be ending soon, eh? Soon to be carried off to the Gulag?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it doesn't work
                What is supposed to "work"?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How am I supposed to know what a Vatnik thinks work is? I didn't grow up in an economy where you had to wait in a breadline for hours because the people were incompetent and lazy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You admit to not knowing what I'm doing or why, but you are adamant that whatever I am doing is "not working".

                Curious, but not surprising. I hope you're still young enough to be drafted. I can't wait to see you get sent to die for Taiwan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You admit to not knowing what I'm doing or why
                >literally not what the post says
                Next time I vote it's gonna be someone who promises to nuke Russia off the face of the earth. If the quality of their trolls is any indication they'll explode before even making it into the air. And even if they manage to get two or three of them exploded in the US that's a risk I'm willing to take, just to never have to deal with Vatnik cope again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Taiwan
                >he doesn't know

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heh, not everyone who calls filth like yourself out is a burger. Also, I'm posting FROM work (@home), retard, hahaha. Comfy as fuck right now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you knew anything about PrepHole you'd know that people here don't bat an eye at someone being a Nazi. In truth, only two types of people still get butt-mad about Nazis: commies and garden gnomes. So which one are you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on what exactly one means by "Nazi". Anyone to the right of Marx called that moniker by blue-haired Twitter trannies? Yeah, no one here bats an eye at those. Actual, "Hitler did nothing wrong", "fascism is a tried-and-true form of government", "as a certified Aryan master race member I heckin' love 19th century race 'science'!" wanna-be Nazis, however? Those remain cringy beyond belief no matter where you go outside your lil' safe spaces.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reddit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                russia wouldn't have had zero confirmed HIMARS kills (for weeks!) if it had a few reaper-equivalent drones near the donbas front
                but, again: inability

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it really says a lot that russia can't find short-range rocket artillery that leaves smoke plumes pointing directly the launch site. having seen the absolute state of russian drones' optics, it's probably too blurry to discern the plumes. and perhaps this "air superiority" is more like air parity, given russia's persistent inability to delete a few poxy trucks.

                >But what happened to bombing roads and railways in Western Uki-land?
                inability, again

                YWNBAW.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                long range "pgm" like calibr and other cruise missiles are probably depleted or at least that much used up that the remaining stockpile is held in reserve for very high value targets and for the case of escalation with other nations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Patience
                The more time passes the more land lease will come into effect. The USA managed to sustain a much bigger country with a much bigger population eighty years ago. Meanwhile Russian demographics are absolutely terminal; technically they can't afford to lose any of their men, but the government cadre still think that Russian families have 7 children instead of less than two (if you're going to believe Russian propaganda, which I don't). Russia is destined to die; the only question is if it's gonna be a quick or a slow death.
                >my money's on quick death

                >Russia still has air superiority
                Then why aren't they flying any sorties? Oh, right, I forgot, because the Ukrainians have been shooting them out of the skies like the motherfuckers that they are.

                Just because you have more planes than the other side doesn't mean you control the skies, Jesus Christ.

                >What I'm curious about is why Russia is still allowing Western resupplies
                See above - they'd literally be shot out of the skies.
                >captcha: ADX PM

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in 2 weeks?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure.

                When will the 1 million strong Kherson counter-attack begin?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the ones the Russians already destroyed
              Which ones are those?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >thinking about dicksuck
              yep it's a russian

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How did your boyfriend's cock taste last night
              I don't know, I am not Russian.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When? They constantly keep running out because they can't fire enough of the things at R*ssians (who cannot help themselves but present hundreds of juicy targets). However, given the steady supplies from the West those are always temporary shortages.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russian media would be showing off the remains of the rockets if it were M31 strikes. They're artillery hits.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Ukrainians must have used the wrong type of warheads because those look like overpenetrations.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That bridge will be back up in no time and all it did was cost the ukies expensive missiles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      L O L, that malding manlet protected his tweets again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russians
      >being able to repair fucking potholes

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck it. Ivan, get on a bicycle, we can fldo it. Z.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I figured you'd care about white births
    Why would I? I'm not completely 4chan-addled, plus it has nothing to do with the fact that Russia is a dead man walking.

    >he doesn't understand that Russia is big enough to span two continents and has lots of Asians living in it
    Even official demographics say otherwise:

    https://i.imgur.com/XJhzKMP.jpg

    >you can't call us out for becoming a minority in our own country
    No one did. I said:
    >Meanwhile Russian demographics are absolutely terminal

    There's nothing about whites in there, you completely 4chan-addled retard. Absolutely no one of value cares about white births, including Russia.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron confirmed. Good bye.

      russia wouldn't have had zero confirmed HIMARS kills (for weeks!) if it had a few reaper-equivalent drones near the donbas front
      but, again: inability

      We'll have to see. I'm kind-of tired of the announcements how "delivery of ______ weapon will turn the tide of war this time, we promise!".

      allahu akbar to you too

      No. No Aloha Snackbars for me, please. No thank you, burger-kun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's a bit sad that you support russian aggression simply as an outlet for personal issues in your life

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >projecting
          lol.
          I don't support it, but neither do I mind it. Why should I care about Slavs and Hohols killing each other?

          >anon 1: <states point>
          >anon 2: you're a moron
          >anon 1: you're not refuting the point
          >anon 2: moron confirmed
          It's so easy to point out Vatniks these days it's not even funny.

          There's nothing of substance to refute or address, but we do get to find out that anon is a moron so that's cool, I guess.

          Are you also a burger-moron?

          Heh, thankfully Ukies have more than just portable launchers. It's why the R*ssoid menace is in kind of a bind: Fly too high and get picked up and shot down by proper AA systems, fly too low and you get assraped by MANPADS, Stingers and so on instead. It's why we've seen these videos of those retards using their attack helicopters as ultra shitty indirect artillery by pitching up their noses and firing their unguided missiles in an arc.

          Yes, I've heard all this. So I guess the ongoing Russian air sorties are taking heavy casualties? Or are their pilots just that insane/good?

          >ultra shitty indirect artillery
          I don't know how it's possible to calculate effectiveness from the information we have, but you do know that those helis have targeting computers for those rockets, right? The pilots are not just blowing their missile loads randomly just hoping to hit something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"if I just close my eyes and ears hard enough I don't have to deal with his arguments"
            How does it feel to be hated by both your own government and the outside world?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wouldn't know.

              And sorry, I don't engage with trannies and morons online. Not that there was anything to engage there. Just a policy of mine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wouldn't know.
                Yes you would, Vatnik.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hehe reee i hate hohols
            >me!? care about the russia-ukraine war!?
            heard it before mate

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you love hohols? Tell us why :^)

              >So I guess the ongoing Russian air sorties are taking heavy casualties?
              No, they're just firing from well behind their own lines. Pay attention, stupid. They're virtually not doing any sorties in actual contest zones (let alone Ukie-controlled areas). Even entertaining the idea of them flying bombing runs on Western Ukraine just shows that you haven't been paying attention since April at least.

              >telegram videos of russian jets flying over contested territory
              Oh, I'm the one who's not been paying attention? OK.

              >Wouldn't know.
              Yes you would, Vatnik.

              Eat a burger, chud-kun. I think your blood sugar is getting low and you wouldn't want that ahead of your daily dilation session.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >absolutely nothing works
                Guess it's time for Gulag soon. Have a nice suicide.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you really think I'm here to convince you? Sorry to disappoint, anon, but no one cares what you think.

                i tend to support the country that gets invaded

                Did you support Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq? If you did then have a burger for consistency. On me.

                >The pilots are not just blowing their missile loads randomly just hoping to hit something.
                Uh, no, that's exactly what they are doing. But please, do tell us which "rockets controlled by targeting computers" (sic) were fired here for example:

                Should be easy to identify for an ordnance expert such as yourself.

                >ordnance expert
                If doing some googling is enough for you to consider me an expert then so be it. You said it, not me!

                Mi-28s can be fitted with guided missiles, but by the number of rockets in those salvos I'm guessing they are shooting S-8 unguided rockets. The thing is, unguided MLRS can still be targeted.... by a computer... because the missile has a known range. I mean, do you think something like the BM-30 also just jizzes its load into the wind each time it fires? lmao

                >telegram videos of russian jets flying over contested territory
                Maybe read what I actually wrote. "Virtually no" is not the same as "none". And besides, this has no bearing on your initial, incredibly idiotic assertion that R*ssia could do bombing runs in Western Ukraine.

                >Maybe read what I actually wrote
                Moving goal posts. Nice cope, gay.
                >your initial, incredibly idiotic assertion
                I said "it would be nice", not that it could. Did I say "nice cope, gay" already? Ah, I'll add it one more time just for you. Nice cope, gay!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Moving goal posts. Nice cope, gay.
                You being incapable of understanding the nuance of English doesn't mean I moved the goalposts, you kindergarten dropout.

                And it would be "nice" if you hadn't been dropped on your head as a child but where does wishing for the impossible (like R*ssian bombing runs in Western Ukraine) get us?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're brimming with shit for someone who claims to care about the "nuance of English". Go jerk off to some pics of dead Russians, k?

                You think their onboard electronics are configured to fire unguided missiles as indirect artillery? Hil-fucking-larious. And you accuse others of coping? The absolute irony. Whatever it takes to see you through another day without giving in to call of the rope, I guess.

                No, dummy. The pilot fires when the targeting system tells him he's in range. Or do you have access to a Mi-28 manual from which you're pulling your shit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Or do you have access to a Mi-28 manual from which you're pulling your shit?
                I mean ... had you watched the video you wouldn't need to be asking this. We have a S*viet manual of exactly this kind of maneuver (cold war NVA manual):

                >Nachteile: [...] Geringe Trefferwahrscheinlichkeit beim Schießen mit UR. Die große Streuung und die relativ geringe Durchschlagsleistung setzen die Wirksamkeit gegen gepanzerte Ziele oder Ziele in Deckungen extrem stark herab. Ungelenkte Raketen sind beim Angriff aus dem Horizontalflug effektiv gegen große, ungepanzerte Gruppenziele.

                >Disadvantages: [...] Low hit probability when shooting with UR (unguided rockets). The large scattering and relatively low penetration performance reduce the effectiveness against armored targets or targets in cover extremely heavily. Unguided rockets are effective against large, unarmored group targets when used in an attack while climbing.

                But as I said, if what keeps you from killing yourself are these terrible "the computer will magically make those unguided rockets hit because, uh, it'll tell the pilot when to fire them" takes then go ahead and keep coping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It sounds like all you did was watch the video. It's OK. If doing some googling makes someone an expert in your eyes then I understand how that video would leave an impression on you.

                >German
                I hope Mohammed doesn't shank you on your way home tonight, anon. I wouldn't want you to get hurt.

                >You admit to not knowing what I'm doing or why
                >literally not what the post says
                Next time I vote it's gonna be someone who promises to nuke Russia off the face of the earth. If the quality of their trolls is any indication they'll explode before even making it into the air. And even if they manage to get two or three of them exploded in the US that's a risk I'm willing to take, just to never have to deal with Vatnik cope again.

                You said that whatever I'm doing "doesn't work". Then you tried changing "doesn't work" to "what a Vatnik thinks work is". You're not as sly as you think you are, anon.

                >Next time I vote
                Burgers still think they live in a "democracy" or that their vote matters. That's sweet, anon. I hope you keep your innocence for a few more years. Maybe you'll vote for Trump again and this time he'll definitely MAGA, lmao.

                >Taiwan
                >he doesn't know

                I don't know why you think I'm drawing comparisons between Taiwan and the Ukraine, but tl;dw. All I'm saying is that you'll be sent to fight for Zog when China decides to do to Taiwan what they did to Hong Kong. Enjoy getting BBQ'd.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You said that whatever I'm doing "doesn't work".
                Yes.
                >Then you tried changing "doesn't work" to "what a Vatnik thinks work is".
                No. I didn't change it, I added it. I have no clue what it is you're trying to accomplish, but considering that you're the one who keeps writing fucking long posts it's clear you're more invested in this than anyone else here is.
                >the rest is Vatnik defeatism
                No one cares, Vatnik. You're being nuked off soon, and there's nothing you can do about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I didn't change it, I added it
                Nice cope. You are so out of your element that you're slinging poo at the board and hoping that something sticks. Just like a moron.
                >writing fucking long posts
                Do you consider anything more than a few sentences as long? When was the last time you picked up a book? I'm sorry if it's hard for you to follow my posts because I'm replying to multiple people. Feel free to drop from the conversation if you're feeling overwhelmed.
                >nuked off soon
                You have no idea, do you? :^)

                Depends on what exactly one means by "Nazi". Anyone to the right of Marx called that moniker by blue-haired Twitter trannies? Yeah, no one here bats an eye at those. Actual, "Hitler did nothing wrong", "fascism is a tried-and-true form of government", "as a certified Aryan master race member I heckin' love 19th century race 'science'!" wanna-be Nazis, however? Those remain cringy beyond belief no matter where you go outside your lil' safe spaces.

                You're right; I'm no fascist.
                >Hitler did nothing wrong
                Of course he did. For example: violating the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and opening a second front before securing the bag is historically considered a "bad move".

                What would you do instead? Just not use the bridge because it might collapse and be in the exact same situation as if it had collapsed?

                Yes. Don't you understand that the bridge is completely compromised? If you so much as sneeze at it the whole thing will collapse. Why are you questioning the narrative? Are you a vatnik? Do you like Putler???

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you consider anything more than a few sentences as long?
                Compared with the couple seconds it takes me to write my posts - yeah, it's clear you're more invested than this, Vatnik.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, ok... Well, if that's everything on your mind then I hope you have a good day!

                are you the german homosexual from 4chan?

                No, I think that's

                >Or do you have access to a Mi-28 manual from which you're pulling your shit?
                I mean ... had you watched the video you wouldn't need to be asking this. We have a S*viet manual of exactly this kind of maneuver (cold war NVA manual):

                >Nachteile: [...] Geringe Trefferwahrscheinlichkeit beim Schießen mit UR. Die große Streuung und die relativ geringe Durchschlagsleistung setzen die Wirksamkeit gegen gepanzerte Ziele oder Ziele in Deckungen extrem stark herab. Ungelenkte Raketen sind beim Angriff aus dem Horizontalflug effektiv gegen große, ungepanzerte Gruppenziele.

                >Disadvantages: [...] Low hit probability when shooting with UR (unguided rockets). The large scattering and relatively low penetration performance reduce the effectiveness against armored targets or targets in cover extremely heavily. Unguided rockets are effective against large, unarmored group targets when used in an attack while climbing.

                But as I said, if what keeps you from killing yourself are these terrible "the computer will magically make those unguided rockets hit because, uh, it'll tell the pilot when to fire them" takes then go ahead and keep coping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice suicide in Gulag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, buddy. Don't forget to pick up some condoms on your way back home or Tyrone is gonna nutt in your wife raw.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And then something like you happens? Yeah, I'd like to avoid that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, no, sorry, I'm white. Real white, not one of those cope mutt "whites".

                Are you white, anon? Betcha you're a mutt :^)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh, no, sorry, I'm white
                Russians aren't white. There's very few blonds in Russia.

                >Are you white, anon?
                I'm blond.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But I'm not Russian, anon. You've been struggling so hard against a figment of your own imagination.

                >I'm blond.
                morons can bleach their hair too, anon. This doesn't prove anything. But it's OK, you don't have to prove anything to me. I know you're a mutt simply because you're so invested in simping for Ukrops. It's a shame you didn't volunteer for their "International Battalion" :^)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But I'm not Russian, anon.
                Suuuuuure.
                >morons can bleach their hair too, anon.
                Projection.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad we're not arguing on a board with geolocation enabled. I can tell you that my local time right now is 1:09pm. Make of that what you will.
                >Projection.
                No, just a fact. I'm not blond. That's passe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >time zone calculations are impossible to do on a piece of paper
                Pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Calculations? Why do you need paper to figure out time zones? You really must be a burger after all...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do you need paper to figure out time zones?
                Exactly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you the german homosexual from 4chan?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you really think I'm here to convince you?
                No, you're here because lying to other people's faces makes you feel powerful. Problem is that we're not afraid to call you out on your lies, and that's a problem for you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You think their onboard electronics are configured to fire unguided missiles as indirect artillery? Hil-fucking-larious. And you accuse others of coping? The absolute irony. Whatever it takes to see you through another day without giving in to call of the rope, I guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i tend to support the country that gets invaded

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >telegram videos of russian jets flying over contested territory
                Maybe read what I actually wrote. "Virtually no" is not the same as "none". And besides, this has no bearing on your initial, incredibly idiotic assertion that R*ssia could do bombing runs in Western Ukraine.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So I guess the ongoing Russian air sorties are taking heavy casualties?
            No, they're just firing from well behind their own lines. Pay attention, stupid. They're virtually not doing any sorties in actual contest zones (let alone Ukie-controlled areas). Even entertaining the idea of them flying bombing runs on Western Ukraine just shows that you haven't been paying attention since April at least.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The pilots are not just blowing their missile loads randomly just hoping to hit something.
            Uh, no, that's exactly what they are doing. But please, do tell us which "rockets controlled by targeting computers" (sic) were fired here for example:

            Should be easy to identify for an ordnance expert such as yourself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anon 1: <states point>
        >anon 2: you're a moron
        >anon 1: you're not refuting the point
        >anon 2: moron confirmed
        It's so easy to point out Vatniks these days it's not even funny.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bridge isn't shut until it's collapsed, throw some roadway plates over the holes and keep using it.
    t. construction worker / steel plate driver

    It's makes me laugh how many people know nothing of infrastructure but think they do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >steel plates for civilian cars totally work for military supply convoys
      >never mind the fact that this isn't just about a hole, but a bridge whose support cables are damaged
      >"It's makes me laugh how many people know nothing of infrastructure but think they do"
      Pottery.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you aren't an engineer

        None of us know how structurally damaged the bridge is, all I'm saying is if I'm a Russian commander with Russian levels of care about my guys I simply plate the holes and send a T-72 over it.
        Either we have a bridge we can keep using or we lose a single T-72 which isn't much considering how many they have lost already.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I simply plate the holes and send a T-72 over it
          Sure. And then the bridge collapses completely, and you're shut off completely. Nice going, Comrade Retard. Please stand by, a special military troop is going to pick you up to transport you to your Gulag.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What would you do instead? Just not use the bridge because it might collapse and be in the exact same situation as if it had collapsed?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just because its use is severely diminished doesn't mean it's gone. They've driven civil vehicles over it, so there's at least some use you can get out of it. But if you instead start sending military-grade shit over it, and it actually collapses, then that use is gone, too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We know it can carry civilian cars because civilians tried.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We know it can carry civilian cars because civilians tried.
                Yes. Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But a truck or tank shouldn't try?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                T-72's go up to 44.5 tonnes. Your average car goes up to 2 tonnes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and bridges are generally designed to have bumper to bumper truck traffic as a worse case scenario.
                Russian truck weight limit is 44 tons before it's considered over weight, similar to most of the world.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, and bridges are generally designed to have bumper to bumper truck traffic as a worse case scenario.
                But not if their literal support structure is fucking compromised, you retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No shit, so consider the weight it was designed to take in the first place.
                20 meter long trucks each weighing 44 tons bumper to bumper in 4 lanes over it's 1366 meter span.
                >1366m / 20m = 68 trucks
                >times 4 lanes = 272 trucks
                >times 44 tons per truck = 11,968 tons safe working load
                I'm not pro Russian and I want to see Putin commit suicide with 2 shots to the back of the head but it doesn't change the fact bridges are over engineered as fuck and the USSR unlike Russia could actually build things that last.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What do you think the word "compromised" means?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How much do you think it's compromised? 20%? 80%?
                It's need to be at least 75% for it to not handle a single tank every 20 meters.

                We will see tanks drive over it again because reality it's partisan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *reality isn't partisan
                Fug

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How much do you think it's compromised? 20%? 80%?

                those kinds of bridges have tendons running underneath the road, they basically make regular reinforced concrete stronger than even pre-stressed concrete. that makes them very cheap - a lot of highway bridges in the uk and other places are of that design. only problem is that if the cables fray, corrode or get cut outright - the whole thing might as well be made of tissues and good wishes. there is a reason why existing ones in the uk get inspected every year for even minimal signs of fraying or corrosion. with advances in pre-stressed construction these kinds of bridges have fallen out of favour and it even was outlawed in some places.

                fixing the road surface will do nothing to fix the structural damage, you need to get to the cables - untension them slowly (over days or even weeks) then put in new ones and tension them (again, over days or even weeks.) it's perfectly doable - in peace-time, if you close the thing for weeks and have experienced engineers working off plans. if you don't have the contrustion plans - add a few weeks for structural surveying. in short: the thing is essentially a bobby trap for anything other than pedestrians or a few cars at a time going slowly.

                Wet Tissue%.
                Also: the reason why it's a cable bridge in the first place is because it was cheaper to build.
                >so much for Soviet infrastructure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the reason why it's a cable bridge in the first place is because it was cheaper to build
                You know that's why all infrastructure is how it is right? No government gets a $250m quote and a $500m quote and takes the $500m one unless they are corrupt.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're harder and more costly to maintain, though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's not how things work irl, the bridge doesn't have fucking hitpoints.
                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bridge_Gross_Weight_Formula
                the maximum force under a heavy trucks axle is more likely to be a problem than total load on most highway bridges. that value is likely not even compromised in the least on the opposite end of the bridge. but in and near the area where the hits are it's a small portion of what it needs to allow a truck or tank to pass. and again: that damage is to the entire structure, not just the road surface - putting down some steel plates for the tank to drive on does shit all if it still rests on the compromised portion. basically, you'd have to build a bridge on top of the existing one over the compromised length. also you'd need to figure out how extensive the degradation is.

                could you drive tanks over it? maybe, if you take it slow and go one at a time. is there a decent chance you'd end up in the water? yes. is there a big chance the bridge will collapse after a few dozens crossings? yes. is there any way to assure the bridge is safe - and won't just collapse on you at any moment - without extensive surveying and repairs? no.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you aren't an engineer

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