1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like them to be able to do so but I don't think they can.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This thread gets made literally everyday. There's an active one right now. Post in that.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Greece
    Hasn't seen active combat since 1950
    >Turkey
    Has participated in active combat in more than 10 countries in the last 10 years

    Yet alone that, Turkey has like 300+ armed drones, 100+ attack helicopters, very modern top attack missiles, and GMLRS systems of its own. Has literally thousands of ATGMS and MANPADS etc Any country attacking Turkey will have very serious troubles.

    Russia has lost +4000 armored vehicles in Ukraine, and Greece would need to sacrifice more than 10000+ armored vehicles to make any considerable advance.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      what is that? roach javelin ?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Karaok. Turkish Man-portable top attack missile. Also have LUMTAS with 16 km range.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't be surprised if one of Greece's missiles on the islands shoots down a Turkish passenger plane and that's how the war starts.
    Turkey isn't going to randomly make the first move. It'll be a Greek fuck up that does that.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Greece doesn't have the allies it thinks it does. It has a large online Meme Army though, I wonder how many volunteers they can get from that.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Greece
      Hasn't seen active combat since 1950
      >Turkey
      Has participated in active combat in more than 10 countries in the last 10 years

      Yet alone that, Turkey has like 300+ armed drones, 100+ attack helicopters, very modern top attack missiles, and GMLRS systems of its own. Has literally thousands of ATGMS and MANPADS etc Any country attacking Turkey will have very serious troubles.

      Russia has lost +4000 armored vehicles in Ukraine, and Greece would need to sacrifice more than 10000+ armored vehicles to make any considerable advance.

      So you fled the other thread to whine and Turkshill in a new one? Imagine getting run out of a thread on an anonymous image board, crying about a meme army. Spineless.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >So you fled the other thread to whine and Turkshill in a new one? Imagine getting run out of a thread on an anonymous image board, crying about a meme army.

        These two posts are by two different people, bozo. The first one you quoted is mine, the second isn't.

        Either way, I'm glad there's people making you seethe. Make more memes about it to cope.
        The oceans' spheres of influence will be divided as follows:
        Turkey: East Med
        Italy: Central Med
        Spain: West Med
        Portugal: Lower Northeast Atlantic
        Britain: Upper Northeast Atlantic

        There's nothing in the world you can do to change that. Larger countries are happy with smaller countries if they know their role. Greece can't impede the larger states in the region from forming their natural corridors, pipelines and power projection, and expect their immediate neighbors to fall in line with it. Italy and Spain are happy to see Greece neutralized as a pest.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Man this is retarded even for roaches

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            2030s.
            Bet on it.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not even gonna think about this lol. I will literally terminate this exchange from my memory in five seconds lmfao

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Alone the Greeks might fall due to Turkish military size and somewhat comparable skill but Greece has the backing of at least France and most likely the UK as well which would lead to a Turkish defeat for sure.

                >most likely the UK as well which would lead to a Turkish defeat for sure.

                Maybe France, but not the UK. Britain will stay out of it just like they stayed out in 1974, when Cyprus had its Greek ethno-nationalist military coup that required Turkey to neutralize it. Done with Britain's green-light, of course, since they have had military bases on the island since the British first annexed it between the 1870s–1910s before granting it independence in 1959.

                When the UK left the EU in 2020, one of the first things they did was sign a Free Trade Agreement with Turkey:
                > https://theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/29/uk-signs-free-trade-agreement-with-turkey
                The weapons embargo the UK imposed on Turkey in 2019 was lifted in 2022:
                > https://theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/15/uk-suspends-arms-exports-turkey-prevent-use-syria
                > https://middleeasteye.net/news/uk-turkey-defence-exports-restrictions-lifted
                The engine-maker Rolls-Royce had pulled out of the TFX project then, but now they're bidding again:
                > https://airforce-technology.com/news/rolls-royce-engine-turkish-fighter/
                > https://defensenews.com/industry/2022/03/14/rolls-royce-kale-to-develop-engine-for-turkish-fighter/

                Britain, Spain and Italy all know what the deal is. Any apparent qualms are merely temporary displays to shut up the Greco-Armenian lobbies in the US and France. Turkey won't do anything until it receives tactic or passive approval from the other maritime powers of the region.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I hope you bet your life on it, Fagstradamus. And I never said you were samefagging, simply that it applied to both of you. It is funny how quick you were to jump to that conclusion though.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong.

          The oceans' spheres of influence will be divided as follows:
          USA: East Med
          USA: Central Med
          USA: West Med
          USA: Lower Northeast Atlantic
          USA: Upper Northeast Atlantic

          Start shit and you will be chastised.

          The Pax Americana will brook no roach riots.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it has a mutual defence pact with France

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I want them to so yes

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Italy would join the conflict. They upgraded their navy specifically for that, the recent arms race only gave them another incentive to pour more money in their armed forces as a whole. They want to remain the top dog in the med, and the recent meddling from france made them more uppity about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Italy isn’t top dog in the Mediterranean. It’s the israhellis by far.

      At least as far as actual fighting capability and mobilization infrastructure

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        In ground forces maybe, and i still have my doubts. But not the navy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Ground and most importantly air. They also have top of the line submarines now. Italy’s far behind and truly not a serious contender. Greece is more ready for war imho

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Italy has a top tier navy and a frigate so good the USN is buying them, and that's saying something because the USN almost never buys foreign hulls.

            And the Italian Air Force is trained by the US and flying the F-35, and Boeing has a bunch of parts factories in southern Italy.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can grease defeat turkey?
    Probably not.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    define victory conditions for greece

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      survival

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Retake Constantinople and control of the strait

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Maintain territorial integrity, including resolving disputes over whose water is whose along standard international law. Don't lose millions of people accomplishing territorial defense.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No. Turkey has every advantage. And as much I would like to see Erdogan get his nose bloodied, Greece has nothing over Turkey militarily. It'd be a complete raping.
    And preventing the turmoil by such a situation is one reason why these countries are in NATO, and another reason why the Brits will probably never leave Cyprus.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Brits will never leave Cyprus because its an unsinkable aircraft carrier and troop/logistics hub in perfect position for the middle East.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Greece has nothing over Turkey
      better airforce
      better navy
      better AA (S400 vs Patriots)

      Ah yeah I forgot, the Russia tier dictatorship with its state sponsored propaganda videos has developed alien tech tier missiles and weaponry that will make a joke of the top tier NATO stuff Greece has.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Turks also have NATO equipment.

        They even domestically produce F-16's under license

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Turkey was the first country to join NATO after it was founded by the original dozen, retard.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          you realize they joined at the same time, right? They both joined in the same day, on 1952.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            you realize the post I was replying to implies Greece has NATO equipment and Turkey does not, right?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, you realize that the post you were replying to was talking about the in house produced crap Turkey is making beating NATO crap, right? You also realize that Turkey has restricted access to NATO stuff for a while now, right? I mean that's the whole reason they are making in house stuff.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                NTA. It doesn't matter if Greece has better weapons on average. Turkey makes its own, and will always have more because it makes its own. And we're not talking about someone having more quantities of a junk weapon. Turkish weapons are battle tested, actively upgraded as needed, and they are often hi-tech such as the UCAVs.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I don't give a shit what the swarthy turkmorons are building on their own dime, so fuck off with your retarded strawman arguments.
                >for a while
                It's been 3 years and gee whiz billy now that the slavmorons are popping off everyone is second guessing those sanctions against the turks. Half of the NATO countries that had weapon embargoes canceled them, Italy, France and the UK are all back on team turkroach as if it's 1853 all over again.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You need to worry about 1204 more than 1853.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's actually further back. There's a reason Turkey's F16s are stuck in limbo for a decade now.
                There's a reason their only cruise missiles are the in house produced SOMs.
                There's a reason they have no NATO BVRAAM, Aster (contrary to Turkish "news" that the program is running again), newest AGMs, newest AShMs etc etc.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >There's a reason
                The reason being that the turks don't want to spend money on something that comes with a legal asterisk. Which is entirely fair. Buying a product from another country which tries to tell you what you can and can't do with it in the future has become an increasingly common and utterly draconian measure.
                Anyway, the sale of modern F-16s and upgrade kits (without ulterior conditions attached to them) will likely be approved considering the Biden administration supports it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Be that as it may, they are still stuck with untested, most likely inferior crap.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Be that as it may, they are still stuck with untested, most likely inferior crap.
                Turkey's weapons untested?

                it has a mutual defence pact with France

                >it has a mutual defence pact with France
                It also has one with the UAE, and we all know the UAE isn't going to rescue Greece. France literally is all they have when SHTF because the rest of Southern and Eastern Europe will sit on the sidelines, as will the UK.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If they couldnt do it with the backing of 3 major powers against a severely weakened Turkey in the 20s, there is no way in hell they could do it now. Especially given the insane population disparity

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Someone with history knowledge? on PrepHole??

      Damn surprising.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Oh go jerk off to a picture of Ataturk. There is a stark difference in the public and political will to push another war immediately after WW1, and how far those powers could be willing to go today. Turk resistance was just enough to make it not worth the additional headache but they act like they crushed the full might of Europe.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh go jerk off to a picture of Ataturk
        It's disgusting at how the Turks worship that Man. Seriously. They sanctify him like a god.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He was the only turk that was ever worth shit to be fair

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He drove out the imperial powers that tried to balkanize anatola and helped create the current state of Turkey. It helps that the yardstick to measure his accomplishments against were other Middle Eastern states that have since then fared even worse. Compared to their neighbors, Turkey was lucky.

          The idolization of Ataturk is similar to how Americans idolize and built up GeorgeWashington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You type like a butthurt greek, post Smyrna

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Greece only had Lloyd Georges' backing for the Asia Minor campaign, concurrently pestered by a 5 year internal political split.
      With that as a given, she bloodied Turkey pretty hard, reducing her from "Empire" to a nomadic state a hair string away from collapse in just a decade.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        OE was turned from an empire to a nomadic state in WWI. Yet, the beaten remains of OE crushed Greece even when UK & France gave them all kinds of support.

        Greece had a population of 6 million in 1920
        Turkey had a population of 12 million in 1920

        Now Greece has a population of 10 million, Turkey has a population of 90 million. The gap is enormous

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Alone the Greeks might fall due to Turkish military size and somewhat comparable skill but Greece has the backing of at least France and most likely the UK as well which would lead to a Turkish defeat for sure.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no, just look at the state of their economy, the poor sick scrounger of Europe

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/eL35yOk.png

      They can hold out, but they cannot win.
      Turkey is too superior in number and size.

      They'd just have to hold out until the west comes to their rescue.

      The US and France are selling Greece weapons to make as much many while they can, because they're not going to do much when Greece inevitably gets buck broken.
      That's what happens when you live off of handouts and your only qualifier is being the regional cockblocker. The Greeks have failed to realize that it's not just Turkey who they've made unhappy with their arrangement.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >weapons to make as much [money] while they can
        Spellcheck.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Turkey has a very fruitful relation with Spain. Spanish CASA provided 100+ cargo planes to Turkey. Navantia is assisting Turkey to build two LHDs and dozens of LCMs.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I am with Turkey. Gayreeks and their EU masters must be destroyed so that Europa may live.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >le divide and conquer
    doesn't work in 2022, ivan

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They can hold out, but they cannot win.
    Turkey is too superior in number and size.

    They'd just have to hold out until the west comes to their rescue.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Turkey will be the new Syria by 2030 so it doesn't really matter.
    Greece just has to invest in anti-refugee and border patrol infrastructure.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Turkey will be out of its currency crisis by the 2030s, while Greece will be in another debt crisis. Greece already has 9x the amount of external debt that Turkey does per-capita wise.

      Much like how Turkey had a Defense Industry Revolution in the early 2010s whose results were only seen by the wider world in between 2019 and 2022, there's been an Electronic Vehicle/Battery and IT Revolution in Turkey since the mid 2010s whose results will be seen between the mid to late 2020s.
      Just like with the defense industry ascendance, the wider world just hasn't been paying attention, but strategic companies from around the world have already been investing in the sectors.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wish they could wish they would. But, Nah. In my unprofessional opinion they don't have the capability or willpower to do it.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Turks are Muslim Greeks
    >Greeks are Christian Turks

    Rest is politics. We pretend to hate each other because we secretly love each other. We are the same people, descendants of the Roman Empire.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Not even wrong. Looking at a turk, one can't spot a hint of asianness, yet the Turkish language developed in fucking Mongolia, and every turkic-speaking nation in central asia also looks the part.
      Onky turks don't, having mutted so hard with the Greek anatolians they became Greek in all but language and faith.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Looking at a turk, one can't spot a hint of asianness
        pfffffff hahahaha

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I am, Onur. You are not.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Unless it's in a defensive war, no.
    Turkey's military is by all means a dynamic, active, and adapting entity. Throughout the entirety of the decades-long PKK insurgency, as well as their interventions in Syria and ISIL-infested areas, they have gained on-the-ground experience in modern warfare. They have one of the largest standing armies in the world, and are like Greece equipped with NATO-standard equipment. Unlike Greece, they also have well-developed in-situ armaments industries, including an endogenous drone industry that seems to be basically revolutionary in terms of combining effective power with low procurement cost.

    If Turkey tried invading Greece, they would likely make gains in the Aegean islands and Eastern Thrace but bog down elsewhere because most of Greece is mountainous (and you can bet Bulgaria, Northern Macedonia, Serbia, and other majority-Christian Balkan countries would offer all sorts of support). But Greece trying to invade would result in minute gains followed by being crushed in a counteroffensive.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >If Turkey tried invading Greece, they would likely make gains in the Aegean islands and Eastern Thrace but bog down elsewhere because most of Greece is mountainous (and you can bet Bulgaria, Northern Macedonia, Serbia, and other majority-Christian Balkan countries would offer all sorts of support).
      Besides the fact that Turkey won't try taking the Greek mainland, you're wrong about their neighbors rescuing them.

      If a war broke out, Greece's west and east Balkan neighbors will stay completely out of the conflict. Serbia doesn't share borders with Greece and is not a NATO state either. Greece and Serbia are separated by North Macedonia, which itself is almost 1/3 ethnic Albanian.

      Bulgaria and North Macedonia have historical qualms with Greece. Between the 1800s and early 1900s, ethnic Bulgarians were ethnically-cleansed from northern and eastern Greece. In the early to mid 1900s, ethnic Albanians were ethnically-cleansed from Epirus in western Greece. North Macedonia was also blocked from joining NATO for over a decade by Greece because of their name "Macedonia" which is why they changed it to NM in 2018. They had to go by FYROM and FYR (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) at most international forums and sport/arts events

      Religion is largely irrelevant in this conflict, and Turkey has far greater trade ties with all those Christian-majority countries. The only country Greece has a bigger trade relation with is actually Albania, which is minority Christian. Bulgaria and Romania also rely on the Turkish Strait for their own ships, whether that be for war or trade. Romania and Hungary have close economic and political relations with Turkey, respectively.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Watch 300 and then tell me.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Greeks should just buy garden gnome AA. And but shitloads it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      > Greeks should just buy garden gnome AA. And but shitloads it.
      Israel will dump Greece the moment any conflict breaks out in the East Med.

      Wrong.

      The oceans' spheres of influence will be divided as follows:
      USA: East Med
      USA: Central Med
      USA: West Med
      USA: Lower Northeast Atlantic
      USA: Upper Northeast Atlantic

      Start shit and you will be chastised.

      The Pax Americana will brook no roach riots.

      > Start shit and you will be chastised. The Pax Americana will brook no roach riots.
      The US and France will sell Greece as much weapons they'll buy, and the US has been amassing military in Greece (along with Bulgaria and Romania) which has given Greeks a false sense of security as well. But the moment there's conflict, Greece will find itself largely isolated.

      There's a huge difference between the Pentagon and Congress. The latter bends to Greco-Armenian lobbyists, and many lawmakers are ethnically Greek or married to Greeks and Armenians, but the Pentagon sees things very differently and leans towards Turkey, while the White House is in-between. All weapons sales/aid have to go through the "Foreign Relations Committee" which is headed by Senator Bob Menendez whose wife is Armenian. Biden wanted to sell F16s and modernization kits to Turkey for the money that Turkey already paid for towards the F35, but Congress binned that idea and is holding the money hostage. It's why Turkey's partnerships with South Korea and Ukraine have been far more fruitful, because they don't have anti-Turkey lobbyists and lawmakers like Western Europe, Canada and the US has.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Look at this rambling. But I guess roaches are so brainwashed and deluded so that expecting better is my own fault.

        They think the EU agreements are written on toilet paper. They think the EU will risk a complete meltdown instead of sanctioning their already shitty economy to the ground.

        They expect France to not honour their treaties.

        They think that the US will allow NATO on NATO conflict.

        They think they are a superpower rather than a paper regional power.

        Fucking hilarious.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >But the moment there's conflict, Greece will find itself largely isolated.
          I wish a roach would find out firsthand how far the west is willing to kowtow to them for strait access, especially with Russia shown to be such a giant bitch

          You. Will. Be. Buck. Broken.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            you can't even buck break kurds with AKs.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              > you can't even buck break kurds with AKs.
              This meme can't save you.
              You know the Turkish PM who ordered the invasion of Cyprus was half Kurdish, right?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >They think that the US will allow NATO on NATO conflict.

          Greece was pretty much pushed out of NATO in 1974, and had to beg Turkey to let them back in a few years later.

          >They think the EU agreements are written on toilet paper. They think the EU will risk a complete meltdown instead of sanctioning their already shitty economy to the ground.

          Who says the EU as a whole will side with Greece by default? This is where you're still naive.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Greece left NATO on its own you fucking retard

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Greece left NATO on its own you fucking retard
              Left on its own because nobody gave a fuck about them. Now you're getting the picture.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no, because no one gave a fuck about cyprus, not Greece.
                Cyprus was not in NATO.

                You will be a shithole by 2030. I mean, you already are, I'm talking bombed desolate cities kind of shithole.
                Go buy some empty baklava to cope with the fact, if you can afford it.

                Anyway, done talking to you, you're clearly some kind of Turk and the only talking I do with Turks is with a bullet. Keep dreaming.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Cyprus was not in NATO, yet Greece left NATO because nobody gave a fuck about them either.

                As for the economics thing, read:

                Turkey will be out of its currency crisis by the 2030s, while Greece will be in another debt crisis. Greece already has 9x the amount of external debt that Turkey does per-capita wise.

                Much like how Turkey had a Defense Industry Revolution in the early 2010s whose results were only seen by the wider world in between 2019 and 2022, there's been an Electronic Vehicle/Battery and IT Revolution in Turkey since the mid 2010s whose results will be seen between the mid to late 2020s.
                Just like with the defense industry ascendance, the wider world just hasn't been paying attention, but strategic companies from around the world have already been investing in the sectors.

                I won't share too much details, but I could share some if you really want to pry into it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the only investments you get are China tier because your "people" are desperate to work for a piece of bread.

                Anyway, as I said, bullets only. See you on the frontlines (which I doubt, you're clearly a diaspora fag, mommy was sucking westerner cock because the homeland was bad so you can grow up and play tough on the internet).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah the only investments you get are China tier because your "people" are desperate to work for a piece of bread.

                You mean like Greece selling off its port to China in 2016 and 2021??

                https://businessinsider.com/greece-sells-piraeus-to-chinese-investors-2016-4
                https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Belt-and-Road/Sold-to-China-Greece-s-Piraeus-port-town-cools-on-Belt-and-Road

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No I mean like western countries opening factoriess because labour is dirt cheap, but nice try.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Western factories have been there a long time.
                Why did Elon Musk hold meetings with Erdogan in 2017 and 2021 when he doesn't with most other heads of state? What was he privy to?

                Here's a sample of what's going on:
                NOV 2021:
                >https://electrive.com/2021/11/30/togg-farasis-launch-battery-joint-venture-siro/
                >https://realwire.com/releases/Farasis-Energy-seals-joint-venture-with-TOGG
                TOGG (Turkey), Farasis (China) launch EV battery production firm

                MAR 2022:
                >https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2022/03/14/battery.html
                >http://businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=88967
                Ford (USA), SK On (South Korea), Otokar (Turkey) launch EV battery production firm

                JUL 2022
                >https://specialeurasia.com/2022/07/04/turkey-discovered-rare-earth/
                >https://theepochtimes.com/chinese-media-tries-downplaying-turkeys-discovery-of-second-largest-rare-earth-reserve_4591570.html
                Turkey announces discovery of world's second-largest rare earth mineral deposits.

                Of course, there's people doubting it just like they doubted the gas discovery in the Black Sea in 2021. But they literally started laying pipelines for said gas in June 2022:
                > https://naturalgasworld.com/turkey-begins-laying-sakarya-pipe-section-press-98826
                > hhttp://caspianbarrel.org/en/2022/06/turkey-starts-laying-pipes-for-black-sea-gas-project/
                I can't imagine those pipelines, which must be expensive, are being built just to suck water.

                TOGG was formed in 2018. That's an EV company. Gunsel got into the EV space in 2014. Musk told Tesla investors back in May 2018 that he would launch Tesla in Turkey by the end of the year, which launched through a third-party, but eventually launched directly in January 2022.
                > https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/994739393859502082
                > https://motor1.com/news/562651/tesla-officially-enters-turkey/

                All this combined, means that the rare-earth was discovered sometime in the mid 2010s. They simply announced it in 2022, the same year TOGG's car factory is completed.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Fact of the matter is, when Greece wanted back into NATO, they still had to beg Turkey.

                >and the only talking I do with Turks is with a bullet. Keep dreaming.

                Yeah the only investments you get are China tier because your "people" are desperate to work for a piece of bread.

                Anyway, as I said, bullets only. See you on the frontlines (which I doubt, you're clearly a diaspora fag, mommy was sucking westerner cock because the homeland was bad so you can grow up and play tough on the internet).

                > Anyway, as I said, bullets only.

                Why aren't you in Armenia or Syria right now?
                Either start looking up flights to Yerevan, or you're a LARPing sack of shit.
                You're dreaming about bullets when there's multiple battlefields involving Turks calling your name and you're not there. Keep talking on the internet.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What does Allah say about mommy sucking westerner cock? Is that not haram?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Pathetic Greek always resorting to homosexuality, and bitching about religion.
                That's your only form of COPE.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't change the fact that your mommy pleased western men for you to grow up and feel all patriotic and play tough on the internet.

                Your daddy also, probably had to clean Christian toilets. Oh how noble.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Akinci is fucking kino

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Are all turkroaches like this ? Retard, Greece rejoined NATO because the US was pressuring Turkey for them to rejoin. You wanna know why Greece rejoined ? Because they were putting pressure on the operational control over the Aegean.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/08/02/us-moving-to-restore-greece-to-nato-and-protect-bases/3c1fe534-68be-4079-bd51-9e389aab4fde/

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Greece rejoined NATO because the US was pressuring Turkey for them to rejoin.
                And needed Turkey's green-light.

                >Because they were putting pressure on the operational control over the Aegean.

                Which is not something that's been forgotten, and arguably still is an issue. Hence, the East Med dispute. It will be resolved in the 2030s.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Did you even read the entire article ? Did you read the part about US wanting those bases ? Even going so far to propose to the Greeks a new separate deal. The part about the Greek navy being absent and how it is a big gap in NATO's defenses ? What about the part of Greece retaining operational control over the Med ?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't disagree with any of what you're saying. It's just a fact that they needed Turkey's green-light.
                Turkey wasn't worried about Greece. It's enemy was the USSR, so naturally Turkey allowed them in.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that Turkey is overestimating its capabilities. They are doing a whole lot of saber rattling with no results. It reminds of another country that was doing a whole lot of eye brow raising.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >My point is that Turkey is overestimating its capabilities.
                Turkey isn't going to war with Greece in this decade, but may in the 2030s once it gets the green-light.

                >They are doing a whole lot of saber rattling with no results.
                There is no saber rattling from Turkey. Greece is the one that's put missiles on islands by Turkey's coastline, and brags about buying Western weapons. Turkey is fighting multiple battles, Greece is low on the priority list.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Motherfucker, Erdogan comes out and says shit every other day, fuck off.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That's in response to the islands and existing controversies over maritime rights. Was he talking shit in the 2000s about Greece? Or did that start when Greece decided to start talking/doing shit?

                Erdogan isn't the one who's going to war with Greece. He'll be long gone before that happens.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >But the moment there's conflict, Greece will find itself largely isolated.
        I wish a roach would find out firsthand how far the west is willing to kowtow to them for strait access, especially with Russia shown to be such a giant bitch

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    One of these days Ahmed, all this talk about trade and military deals and muh population and how much so-and-so at the Pentagon loves you is all going to seem so far away.
    >uh nobody cares about grease lol
    This is where you keep making your mistake. Nobody needs to care about Greece. Especially not what they are today. And the same goes for Turkey whether you're willing to believe it or not. Old habits and world views die hard and the day will come when the western powers will jump at the opportunity to push the Islamic world's influence further back into the desert. Because it's only proper.

    Because we hear Greece and we don't think some hairy thieving retard in Athens. We think about Plato and Aristotle, about Hercules and Zeus. A cultural imprint that runs deep in our society. And we look at Turkey and we think of Ottoman invasions and Saracens and the Crusades. If the shit ever hits the fan it'll come down to us vs. them, and whether you want to accept it or not, we claim Greece. We only tolerate Turkey. All else is cope and you should pray the status quo remains as it is else you will see all that cope vanish.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So what you're saying is you're seething and coping, and you'll keep seething until things turn around??

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Hopefully you won't ever have to find out and you can believe whatever you want until then. But what I said is the truth. Enjoy boasting about your coveted ties to western business as long as you can, and pray hypothetical conflict remains hypothetical

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How about you look up plane tickets to Yerevan, mate?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          > coveted ties to western business
          It's not about that. It's the fact that as the world becomes more electric, Turkey will be a bigger player. Turkey never had oil, and so far it hasn't even had gas (until it begins extraction). Everything was imported.

          Now Turkey will be calling shots by the 2030s. West and East alike want Turkish weapons, and they'll want Turkish rare earths, electric batteries, and EVs. At the same time, people want Greece to just get the fuck out of the way and let others do business like they want to.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It cringes from the truth

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the actual military of both countries are basicly conscripts
    greece very recently adapted the israeli way of training for the conscripts so i dont expect to see any gains for at least 5 years
    the prof side of their military is hard to take a close look
    navy side they are both shit for different reasons (to my understanding)
    turkey wise they are basicly dead on water since many components of their frigate MLU was based on u.s tech so they cant buy anymore
    their german licenced subs are "Frozen" since germany isnt delivering parts with some bullshit excuse(that was valid for june i dont know now)
    greece on the other hand due to the situation of their economy for the last 13 years they practicly cant do a mlu on their frigates they are simply too old to even justify this move
    they bought 3 fdi frigates but i dont know if they optioned for the fourth
    still no matter what in comparison they are armed to the teeth
    they are looking to get some lpd's lsd's i think (rumors)
    greek navy is basicly a joke as it stands now but in 2025 and afterwards they probably gonna start catching up
    they also have those damn impressive russian hovercrafts which they are nearly impossible to lock on (their engines have a 5% inclination in order to create more spray than usual covering up essentially the whole thing and giving zero ir signature)
    air force wise it was already on greek side even when they were on default mode let alone now
    the most modern aircraft turkey has right now is their ccip f16s a mixture of block 40 and block 50
    their ozgur update even tho they claimed to be a completely in house upgrade suddenly fell silent after the caatsa sanction so i guess it wasnt that much in house afterall..
    drone wise greece is a joke obviously..
    i still think that they should have asked for a complete tech transfer of neuron make it twice as big and just fucking unleash it into the wild but meh..

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i only know about archytas which is a recon/ucav drone a project started 1.5 years ago with a projected prototype flight in october)
      and the LOTUS eu program basicly a mothership that can release many IM ASSUMING loitering ammo drones

      there is a rumor that the visit of the defence ministry of greece in japan was because they wanted to get some of the upgraded soryu class subs(with the new batteries that gave them some insane range)
      apart from that i dont even count the f35 cause its just a political bullshit move since it wont benefit greece what so ever (it can be good as a deterrent for cyprus tho)
      other than that the only thing i can bring to mind is greece impressive air defence modernization with that custom made iron+drone dome the lm 2084 some other parts and 4 green pine radars

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's shameful how western europe has been propping up t*rkey for centuries now just because it's inconvenient for russia.

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