>Putin visits and signs deals with North Korea to secure more Military aid >at the same time also secures more military aid for Ukraine
How can anyone call this man corrupt when he hits two birds with one stone
No corrupt official could be this efficient
not sure about that, the only reports of shitty nork ammo is from some b-class zigger accounts, could be true, could be maskirovka. unless ukraine catches and tests a stash of nork ammo we wont know for sure.
https://i.imgur.com/UTPc872.jpeg
Due to Putin begging kimmy for weapons, what can the South Koreans hand to Ukraine to ensure TZD?
https://i.imgur.com/80X0knQ.jpeg
like clockwork.
Russian money, oi, food and weapons technology now flow to NORK and kimmy is happy as a puppy. The South will do pretty much everything to stop that and currently that means supplying weapons to Ukraine to hurt Russia and make them stop dealing with NORK.
50 SPG's and a million rounds would be nice for starters.
https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/80528
turns out putin found an unexpected ally too
europe
And forgot to add, they weren't even sent. They were inspected, found to be missing shit and fixed. I suspect your link even says that but I'm not going to click it.
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And forgot to add, they weren't even sent. They were inspected, found to be missing shit and fixed. I suspect your link even says that but I'm not going to click it.
nothing was even sent. They bought shells, shells inspected, shells poor quality, shells fixed, shells sent. Like if this was a case of the Czechs just sending it whatever fine, but they didn't. You made me click the actual article and what do you know, your own link says that >Half of the shells purchased by the Czech Republic for Ukraine in African and Asian countries turned out to be of poor quality >The shells need to be improved before being sent to Ukraine. According to Strnad, CSG has to add missing components of its own production to some of them.
The norks aren't technologically backwards, they're just chronically poor. The Chinese or Russians can make them somebody else's problem pretty easily.
Bold assumption. Why bring it up again when everyone's forgotten in a year's time? If anyone asks, say you're still considering. Repeat until they stop asking.
No that actually means >The US wouldn't pay us enough the first time but now Russia has gone and passed us off by trading with the psychotic manlets next door so let's get back to haggling and see if Ol' Joe will loosen the purse strings a bit."
>weapons,
Lol, that's what he's begging for >technology
Lmao, Russia just arrested half their senior rocket scientists for treason because they suddenly became aware they'd been bullshitting them all along. Russia doesn't have technology that the West doesn't give them. >cooperation in the nuclear sphere,
Russian nukes don't work >energy
At pennies on the dollar, it literally costs Russia more to extract it >trade,
Russia has nothing but energy to trade, see above
It's amazing, they're both trying to scam each other. It's like a wasp landed on a scorpion and the only thing that's certain is one of them is gonna get stung.
Here you go brown, I went ahead and got a brown source just for you.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/21/russia-jails-hypersonic-missile-scientist-for-14-years-for-treason
>On Tuesday, he was sentenced to 14 years in a penal colony. Maslov, 77, who protests his innocence, is among a string of eminent Russian scientists to have been charged with treason in recent years. >Alexander Shiplyuk and Valery Zvegintsev, two other scientists from the same Siberian institute, all specialists in hypersonics, who have also been arrested since 2022 on treason charges, are awaiting trial. >Last month, Alexander Kuranov, another scientist in the same field, was jailed for seven years.
The purported charges are nonsense, they're being charged because they lied about their hypersonic programs. They don't work as advertised but Russia can't admit that.
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>Lmao, Russia just arrested half their senior rocket scientists for treason
As if the brain drain caused by the war wasn't enough, Kremlin is hell-bent on destroying any future Russia's academia might have.
Kim will give Putin EVERYTHING. Since Putin has something to offer Kim (weapons, technology, cooperation in the nuclear sphere, energy, trade, etc). What can South Korea give to Ukraine? Hmm... maybe a couple of hundred tactical helmets, a couple of hundred automatic rifles... well, that's about it.
Nork gear will let russia function longer but the thing is that they've also been sending the garbage. whatever it takes to get the good stuff is going to cost putin a lot.
Kimmy holds all the cards in this situation. Putin cannot really afford to lose his support. It'll be anything he really wants - tech transfers, gold (if they still have any left from buying Shadeds), resource rights, '''rented''' land like with china, aid in fixing nork agriculture, etc. And everything they get makes them less reliant on russia.
South Korea has the largest stash of 155mm rounds outside the US. They also have a huge arms industry and manufacturing capability for artillery and other goodies.
Kim gets a deal because they have a large stash of antique calibre soviet munitions which Russia doesn't have any more to feed relic T-62's and T-55's
You probably didn't understand what's happening, North Korea is now the backyard of the Russian defense industry with millions of laborers + Russian and Chinese technologies. South Korea will not strategically work for Ukraine just like that, South Korea will not supply its artillery systems, South Korea will not give away its ammunition, South Korea will not train Ukrainians to operate their weapons.
north koreas manufacturing capability is minimal and china will give them shit as long as the russians are their sugar daddy. it really is about the 100mm and 115mm ammo for relic tanks, they sold 3mio rounds.
How big of a shithole does one's country have to be to be impressed by North Korean industrial output? Absolutely fricking grim.
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>How big of a shithole does one's country have to be to be impressed by North Korean industrial output? Absolutely fricking grim
insert literally any nato nation^ lmfao
https://i.imgur.com/Tsnw68M.jpeg
>Heh, look at this /k/oper questioning the undeniable might that is North fricking Korea
thanks for the deboooooooooooooonking,
wouldnt want anyone to think North Korea is 'strong' now would we?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yes the state that doesn't even have electrical lighting at night sure is a scary industrial powerhouse lmao
1 week ago
Anonymous
homefront is not a good indicator of NK power, it wasn't even a good game
1 week ago
Anonymous
The malnourished sweets gulag worker fears the fat dictator
1 week ago
Anonymous
helmettard you need to take a shower.
6 days ago
Anonymous
Are they even able to generate electricity? Are they manufacturing this enormous industrial output like medieval tradesmen?
6 days ago
Anonymous
Coal powerplants are fairly simple. NK has a terrible electric grid however and frequently suffers brown and blackouts. As always its civilians that suffer in order to prop up a military far beyond the country's means. Also, people are assuming NK is getting migs and ICBM's out of this trade, but they're probably getting grain and fertilizer since they need it, and it'd be pretty dumb for Russia to be selling weapons to buy weapons.
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Anonymous
They can help them with miniaturising nukes and extending their icbms
Yeah, they are fricking delusional, you may hate NK (rightfully, it's a prison state) but they sure have enormous capability to manufacture certain things of military relevance
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Anonymous
>enormous capacity
May I see it?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Sure, you visit the place 🙂
1 week ago
Anonymous
So as far as you personally know it doesn't exist, you've never seen it yourself, you can't quote figures or give any kind of details, you can't even say for example, how much cement it manufactures per year. Cool 🙂
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Anonymous
Not bothering with digging up old German documentaries I have seen 10 yrs ago, sorry.
Regardless, what else would the state produce? They have nothing but time, raw materials and human resources and seemingly no issues already supplying ziggers with vast quantities of ammo
like how anon?
please provide us with evidence clearly you have an insight on their manufacturing capacity
your uncle works for dod
your father for cia
mom for nsa
you must probably a top tier diplomat at south korea
and your grandfather probably founded sso
have you ever checked out their foreign trade journals? its an interesting insight into their manufacturing capability
https://kcnawatch.org/periodicals/foreign-trade/
North Korea manufacturing capabilities for some inexplicable reasons are comparable to the whole NATO combined for artillery shells.
South Korean officers said they still have all their Soviet era factories with yearly production capacity in the millions of shells.
Quite likely they can produce even more than Russia.
Norks entire economy orbits around their military.
Quality of the new shells might not be too great but better than no shells.
They norks might have practically no industry BESIDES outdated metal, chemical and military factories... Which is exactly what you need for artillery...
>You probably didn't understand what's happening, North Korea is now the backyard of the Russian defense industry with millions of laborers + Russian and Chinese technologies
the state of ziggers clutching at one of the poorest and worst governed nations on earth for some scraps of poorly made crap and obsolete relics
No they fricking don’t. What they have is a corrupt government helping a corrupt defense industry take huge numbers of orders for things they can’t deliver. I can’t fricking WAIT for the reaction when everyone realizes they were scammed.
calm your breasts down Kim. You are so fat already you are risking a stroke every time you flip the table
You probably didn't understand what's happening, North Korea is now the backyard of the Russian defense industry with millions of laborers + Russian and Chinese technologies. South Korea will not strategically work for Ukraine just like that, South Korea will not supply its artillery systems, South Korea will not give away its ammunition, South Korea will not train Ukrainians to operate their weapons.
everybody understand everything pidorashka. What is happening is puccia is becoming chinas colony while indebted to best korea of all things
>What they have is a corrupt government helping a corrupt defense industry take huge numbers of orders for things they can’t deliver. I can’t fricking WAIT for the reaction when everyone realizes they were scammed.
lmfao, good thing worst-korea picked a fully moronic shit-balt nation to scam first
lmfao polish morons arent going to see any of the korea trash they tried to panic buy
Chollima is a mythical horse that goes really fast and they have "Chollima" campaigns (ideological motivation to work harder like Stakhanovism in the Stalin era). Being on meth might also help.
I mean ignoring he did this before with every western nation, what is he going to do if South Korea did? Attack South Korea? And force the USA to either step down geopolitically or get involved?
Putin goes to North Korea and asks for military aid trading a chunk of what's left of the Russian economy for defective garbage and paper promises. What a success! Ukraine asks South Korea for aid. South Korea says they'll look into it. Red lines crossed! Nooks! You'll be sorry!!!
has putin not realized yet that the big bear reputation is gone?
you're not gonna threaten a country that would wipe the floor with you in direct conflict lmao.
Don't call me some shill or moron, this is a PURELY hypothetical question
What would the West's response be if Russia rewarded Norks with actually good missiles (nukes are obviously out of the question because we all know what the answer would be if Russia even considered giving them nukes)
Like actually consistent weapons to threaten Worst Korea and Japan
>can't even supply his own troops with modern gear >can't produce enough missiles to do more than the occasional terror bombing
Russias final warning, pls take it very seriously
>Putin's attempted masterstroke blows up in his face
Every time.
Why is he so terrible at this? Like, literally everything since 2014 has been blunder after blunder, but Russian people still worship him and /misc/ still sucks his dick.
It's really like Putin and all his cabinet think Russia is the only place with agency and refuse to consider there might be responses to their actions, or second and third order effects. Mind blowing. How do you run a country by only existing in the present?
Kim might export their meat to the frontline in exchange for putin blowies. Not too sure what else besides subpar equipment they have to offer. Of course they might be coaxed to try harass south korea and try direct attention there but it seems a bit futile approach.
The big thing is artillery ammo. South Korea is really the only large industrialized US ally that was worried about a large scale land war prior to 2022. So they have 155mm stocks and shell production capacity that makes most non-American NATO members look like a bunch of wimps.
They also have some T-80U's and BMP-3's that the Russians gave em in the 90's to partly pay for old Soviet debts.Those probably looked fairly good back in the 90's when the ROKA only had early model K1's and didn't operate any IFV's. But now-a-days they're pretty egregiously antiquated compared to South Korea's more modernized domestic AFV's. It's not inconceivable they might offload them to Ukraine if they weren't going to keep them in active line units for much longer anyway.
Granted the ROKA still uses 105mm upgunned M48 Patton's for their reserve units. So maybe they wanna hold onto any B or C tier tanks so long as they can pump HE into Nork human waves and send T-62 turrets into low earth orbit.
the biggest thing they could do right this very instant is to agree to use some of their shell stockpile to replenish other stockpiles so those countries can start delivering right now.
they don't cross a "red line" and it won't take weeks off shipping.
They have massive production capacity as much as I hate asiaticshill you have to give him that. Even if they don't want to give weapon systems to the ukies they can still use that capacity. Speed loan the poles some of the stuff they are going to be building in license later so the pole can leave some more stuff on the border. Give or just simply sell barrels to the ukies. I'm sure I'm only scratching at what can be done with a few willing parties.
The big thing is artillery ammo. South Korea is really the only large industrialized US ally that was worried about a large scale land war prior to 2022. So they have 155mm stocks and shell production capacity that makes most non-American NATO members look like a bunch of wimps.
They also have some T-80U's and BMP-3's that the Russians gave em in the 90's to partly pay for old Soviet debts.Those probably looked fairly good back in the 90's when the ROKA only had early model K1's and didn't operate any IFV's. But now-a-days they're pretty egregiously antiquated compared to South Korea's more modernized domestic AFV's. It's not inconceivable they might offload them to Ukraine if they weren't going to keep them in active line units for much longer anyway.
Granted the ROKA still uses 105mm upgunned M48 Patton's for their reserve units. So maybe they wanna hold onto any B or C tier tanks so long as they can pump HE into Nork human waves and send T-62 turrets into low earth orbit.
where did you get data about overwhelming shell production and stockpiles?
they have a reported stock off 3.4 million 105 shells for about 2k guns
and they have over 4k 155 guns so if they are keeping the same level of shells stockpiled that would be close to 7 million shells.
they have already transferred half a million 155 shells to the US.
Some thing you don't do if you don't think you can replenish those stock piles.
And you need a lot of production capacity to pile those shells so high.
How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK? As far as I see it's just business for norks, and they have nothing to lose in this situation. Unless norks start smoking carelessly within their territory
they don't want buying things from the norks to become a no strings attached kind off thing.
So the message they want to send is "if you buy from the norks, we are going to sell/give to your enemy" so that the norks can't get funding from large scale arms trade
>How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK?
If Ukraine loses NK gets a share. >As far as I see it's just business for norks, and they have nothing to lose in this situation.
Good relations and future. Also military economy has a price not to mention if they're going to the front lines.
>How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK?
It's less about hurting them directly and more about penalizing Russia for what's likely to turn out to be technology and weapons transfers to the Norks.The Norks might have mountains of (crappy) tanks and artillery, but the vast bulk of their air force and air-defenses are 1960's era junk that can't meaningfully deter a modern air-force from bombing the shit out of them with impunity. The Norks getting more modern Russian Jets and SAMs might only be a speed bump against the S. Korean air-force, but that's a speed bump that gives the Norks more time to shell the shit out of Seoul in the event of war flaring up again.
https://i.imgur.com/o9EXios.jpeg
>upgunned M48 Patton's
I want to see a bunch of picrel rolling around in Ukraine
Would be funny. But unlikely. It seems that South Korea plans to use the M48's to provide basic armor support for their reservist infantry divisions in the event of large scale mobilization. If they gave up a whole bunch of them, I'm not sure they'd have anything to replace them with in the force structure.
By contrast the ROKA has the T-80U's in active duty, operating in one of the 3rd Armored Brigades two tank battalions. The other battalion operates K1E1's. Since South Korea is gradually building more K2's and is continuing to upgrade the K1, so there's probably already plans to replace their Soviet tanks.
guys we know that the best asiatics can produce a lot off shells.
We also know that their quality isn't great with hot loads, weak loads, weight allover the place and a lot of duds.
And they can make some semi modern stuff.
But they haven't the capacity to outproduce worst asiatics.
Their strategy of keeping the shell cases and only pouring the explosives is a clear indication that they can't or can't afford to replace or repour their stockpiled shells when their best by date comes around
>tfw you're living in the timeline where puccia can't even keep armenia under it's thumb and has to prostrate itself to north korea for assistance
How the frick did it come to this
Now that would be funny
How would you get large amounts of cheap vodka into russian trenches from the ukranian side btw
Norks drink very strong soju and do Methamphetamine quite regularly. Officially it is prohibited of course but in reality meth is quite cheap since it can be distilled even in poor home lab and soju is just moonshine so easy to obtain as well.
I can see South Korea going 'frickit' soon enough and just pumping a lot of their surplus artillery and rocket systems into Ukraine directly, there is some legal stuff which gets in the way of that but it can probably be either suspended or reversed. Thing with the SK military is that its layers of attrition on its systems which come into play once the most obvious ones are destroyed or taken out in the first strikes, then there's just this crazy fricking amount of second, third and so on replacement gear.
Shit there's probably more gun barrels than trees there in some places
The other thing to consider is that SK is one of the biggest shipyards in the world and if someone 'accidentally a Ukrainian navy' that could be pretty fricking funny!
Yeah I've got a feeling there will be a reaction from SK, maybe not soon but there will definitely be felt if they go ahead with support
there's been sort of the ghetto versions of them, which is just a rubbish bike, sidecar and cage >the tuk tuk looks more professionally made >sheeeit
>Mutual Defence Treaty
Reminder Russia signed one of those with Ukraine (as did USA and UK). Look what happened. China has a nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine too. Is North Korea so moronic and or desperate that they're going to trust this nation? Or is the pursuit of missile capable nukes all that matter?
>China has a nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine too.
China supports russia. >Is North Korea so moronic and or desperate that they're going to trust this nation?
They get immediate goods for it.
Guided rocker artillery would be the best thing SK could give (I don't think they actually have that much artillery ammo to spare since they've been back-filling the US and others all along).
"back-filling" is a strong word. the shells they send are all the old shells from the US cold war reservers, so their own reserves should be technically still be fine. Question is if they want to give up those or just send newly produced. reminder that they are also getting new shells from the US, in return for returning the old US stock
translation from https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25257832
look like they are pissed but they are giving Russia a chance "to clarify" before they send their arsenal, but they are thinking about lethal aid.
well they didn't deliver lethal aid in exchange for Russia staying away from the norks, their new treaty is a direct threat to their security interests, so either Russia backs up or they punish them by opening their arsenal for Ukraine.
I think the most hilarious fact is, that both will probably not resort to English for communication, since this is the language of their top enemy.
But both speak German.
Kim Jong Un grew up in Switzerland and Putin had a German wife and lived there several years.
The thought of both of them sitting in a room saying: "Ja. Über mehr Granaten können wir reden. Die Produktion läuft gerade an."
("Yes. We can talk about the delivery of more grenades. The production took off recently.")
>Putin: Hallo Brudi, hast du Granaten für mich? >Kim: Auwä scho!
i see some problems there
>Putin: So wer sind diese Leute >Kim: dieser Mann ist Her Bierjunge, Generql und Minister für Kriegsproduktion >Putin: ein angenehmes Treffen Her General Bierjunge >Kim: dopplt >Putin: ach du schlaun Arschloch, so auf den Tisch
I'd assume they know the basics of the Biercommand
>Putin visits and signs deals with North Korea to secure more Military aid
>at the same time also secures more military aid for Ukraine
How can anyone call this man corrupt when he hits two birds with one stone
No corrupt official could be this efficient
he has mastered the art of eternal monkedom. The circus will go on forever until he is no more
turns out just giving them more nork trash will hurt them the most
not sure about that, the only reports of shitty nork ammo is from some b-class zigger accounts, could be true, could be maskirovka. unless ukraine catches and tests a stash of nork ammo we wont know for sure.
Russian money, oi, food and weapons technology now flow to NORK and kimmy is happy as a puppy. The South will do pretty much everything to stop that and currently that means supplying weapons to Ukraine to hurt Russia and make them stop dealing with NORK.
50 SPG's and a million rounds would be nice for starters.
https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/80528
turns out putin found an unexpected ally too
europe
Except the Czechs didn't make them. They were from African nations and were bought by the Czechs.
And forgot to add, they weren't even sent. They were inspected, found to be missing shit and fixed. I suspect your link even says that but I'm not going to click it.
thats literally besides the point here
How is it beside the point when I clarified here
nothing was even sent. They bought shells, shells inspected, shells poor quality, shells fixed, shells sent. Like if this was a case of the Czechs just sending it whatever fine, but they didn't. You made me click the actual article and what do you know, your own link says that
>Half of the shells purchased by the Czech Republic for Ukraine in African and Asian countries turned out to be of poor quality
>The shells need to be improved before being sent to Ukraine. According to Strnad, CSG has to add missing components of its own production to some of them.
The norks aren't technologically backwards, they're just chronically poor. The Chinese or Russians can make them somebody else's problem pretty easily.
like clockwork.
>consider
I'm tired of this weak-kneed response from west-aligned governments
>will
>consider
so they will say no after a year of considering
Bold assumption. Why bring it up again when everyone's forgotten in a year's time? If anyone asks, say you're still considering. Repeat until they stop asking.
No that actually means
>The US wouldn't pay us enough the first time but now Russia has gone and passed us off by trading with the psychotic manlets next door so let's get back to haggling and see if Ol' Joe will loosen the purse strings a bit."
>weapons,
Lol, that's what he's begging for
>technology
Lmao, Russia just arrested half their senior rocket scientists for treason because they suddenly became aware they'd been bullshitting them all along. Russia doesn't have technology that the West doesn't give them.
>cooperation in the nuclear sphere,
Russian nukes don't work
>energy
At pennies on the dollar, it literally costs Russia more to extract it
>trade,
Russia has nothing but energy to trade, see above
It's amazing, they're both trying to scam each other. It's like a wasp landed on a scorpion and the only thing that's certain is one of them is gonna get stung.
>Russia just arrested half their senior rocket scientists
Source?
Here you go brown, I went ahead and got a brown source just for you.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/21/russia-jails-hypersonic-missile-scientist-for-14-years-for-treason
The headliner says one scientist.
Well maybe you should read the article.
>On Tuesday, he was sentenced to 14 years in a penal colony. Maslov, 77, who protests his innocence, is among a string of eminent Russian scientists to have been charged with treason in recent years.
>Alexander Shiplyuk and Valery Zvegintsev, two other scientists from the same Siberian institute, all specialists in hypersonics, who have also been arrested since 2022 on treason charges, are awaiting trial.
>Last month, Alexander Kuranov, another scientist in the same field, was jailed for seven years.
The purported charges are nonsense, they're being charged because they lied about their hypersonic programs. They don't work as advertised but Russia can't admit that.
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Really, you couldn't even read the second sentence of the article? Everyday shitskins find new ways to surprise me.
That this shit doesnt upset germany is beyond me.
>Lmao, Russia just arrested half their senior rocket scientists for treason
As if the brain drain caused by the war wasn't enough, Kremlin is hell-bent on destroying any future Russia's academia might have.
>koreans now fight proxy wars in the west
How the turn tables.
Kim will give Putin EVERYTHING. Since Putin has something to offer Kim (weapons, technology, cooperation in the nuclear sphere, energy, trade, etc). What can South Korea give to Ukraine? Hmm... maybe a couple of hundred tactical helmets, a couple of hundred automatic rifles... well, that's about it.
Nork gear will let russia function longer but the thing is that they've also been sending the garbage. whatever it takes to get the good stuff is going to cost putin a lot.
>whatever it takes to get the good stuff is going to cost putin a lot.
Nook materiel
Food
???
Kimmy holds all the cards in this situation. Putin cannot really afford to lose his support. It'll be anything he really wants - tech transfers, gold (if they still have any left from buying Shadeds), resource rights, '''rented''' land like with china, aid in fixing nork agriculture, etc. And everything they get makes them less reliant on russia.
The garbage stuff still lends itself to volume of fire. Spamming cold war era asiaticshit is a viable strategy for this type of warfare
South Korea has the largest stash of 155mm rounds outside the US. They also have a huge arms industry and manufacturing capability for artillery and other goodies.
Kim gets a deal because they have a large stash of antique calibre soviet munitions which Russia doesn't have any more to feed relic T-62's and T-55's
beggars cant be choosers, applies to both sides lol
You probably didn't understand what's happening, North Korea is now the backyard of the Russian defense industry with millions of laborers + Russian and Chinese technologies. South Korea will not strategically work for Ukraine just like that, South Korea will not supply its artillery systems, South Korea will not give away its ammunition, South Korea will not train Ukrainians to operate their weapons.
north koreas manufacturing capability is minimal and china will give them shit as long as the russians are their sugar daddy. it really is about the 100mm and 115mm ammo for relic tanks, they sold 3mio rounds.
>north koreas manufacturing capability is minimal
AHAHAHAHA
AHAHHAHHA
AHHAHAHAHAHHA
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
/k/ everyone
?
How big of a shithole does one's country have to be to be impressed by North Korean industrial output? Absolutely fricking grim.
>How big of a shithole does one's country have to be to be impressed by North Korean industrial output? Absolutely fricking grim
insert literally any nato nation^ lmfao
thanks for the deboooooooooooooonking,
wouldnt want anyone to think North Korea is 'strong' now would we?
Yes the state that doesn't even have electrical lighting at night sure is a scary industrial powerhouse lmao
homefront is not a good indicator of NK power, it wasn't even a good game
The malnourished sweets gulag worker fears the fat dictator
helmettard you need to take a shower.
Are they even able to generate electricity? Are they manufacturing this enormous industrial output like medieval tradesmen?
Coal powerplants are fairly simple. NK has a terrible electric grid however and frequently suffers brown and blackouts. As always its civilians that suffer in order to prop up a military far beyond the country's means. Also, people are assuming NK is getting migs and ICBM's out of this trade, but they're probably getting grain and fertilizer since they need it, and it'd be pretty dumb for Russia to be selling weapons to buy weapons.
They can help them with miniaturising nukes and extending their icbms
>Heh, look at this /k/oper questioning the undeniable might that is North fricking Korea
Yeah, they are fricking delusional, you may hate NK (rightfully, it's a prison state) but they sure have enormous capability to manufacture certain things of military relevance
>enormous capacity
May I see it?
Sure, you visit the place 🙂
So as far as you personally know it doesn't exist, you've never seen it yourself, you can't quote figures or give any kind of details, you can't even say for example, how much cement it manufactures per year. Cool 🙂
Not bothering with digging up old German documentaries I have seen 10 yrs ago, sorry.
Regardless, what else would the state produce? They have nothing but time, raw materials and human resources and seemingly no issues already supplying ziggers with vast quantities of ammo
So you don't know? But you were so confident.
There has to be an internet rule where anyone who types "HAHAHAH" is never actually bemused, but spectacularly assblasted
I can't speak for all anons but for me it usually means I am shitposting and slightly amused someone fell for it
Samsung alone mogs the whole nork economy 5 fold.
like how anon?
please provide us with evidence clearly you have an insight on their manufacturing capacity
your uncle works for dod
your father for cia
mom for nsa
you must probably a top tier diplomat at south korea
and your grandfather probably founded sso
have you ever checked out their foreign trade journals? its an interesting insight into their manufacturing capability
https://kcnawatch.org/periodicals/foreign-trade/
North Korea manufacturing capabilities for some inexplicable reasons are comparable to the whole NATO combined for artillery shells.
South Korean officers said they still have all their Soviet era factories with yearly production capacity in the millions of shells.
Quite likely they can produce even more than Russia.
Norks entire economy orbits around their military.
Quality of the new shells might not be too great but better than no shells.
They norks might have practically no industry BESIDES outdated metal, chemical and military factories... Which is exactly what you need for artillery...
>You probably didn't understand what's happening, North Korea is now the backyard of the Russian defense industry with millions of laborers + Russian and Chinese technologies
the state of ziggers clutching at one of the poorest and worst governed nations on earth for some scraps of poorly made crap and obsolete relics
No they fricking don’t. What they have is a corrupt government helping a corrupt defense industry take huge numbers of orders for things they can’t deliver. I can’t fricking WAIT for the reaction when everyone realizes they were scammed.
sure thing bub, this time you gonna be right. just wait for it.
calm your breasts down Kim. You are so fat already you are risking a stroke every time you flip the table
everybody understand everything pidorashka. What is happening is puccia is becoming chinas colony while indebted to best korea of all things
>What they have is a corrupt government helping a corrupt defense industry take huge numbers of orders for things they can’t deliver. I can’t fricking WAIT for the reaction when everyone realizes they were scammed.
lmfao, good thing worst-korea picked a fully moronic shit-balt nation to scam first
lmfao polish morons arent going to see any of the korea trash they tried to panic buy
they need their 155 for nk
big win for the west if ukraine gets k9s
cool photo btw
Bollocks
South Korea has a rather impressive arsenal since they have constantly been worrying about the norks doing something dumb.
On of the few countries that kept investing in military equipment post cold war.
>post cold war
cold war never ended for them
South Korea has a large defence industry and now has a chance to battle test their gear vs the weapons it was designed to counter.
North Korea is best Korea, they have the best pop music.
A personal fave of mine
>It's true
Nah this one is where it’s at
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Goddamn that's good.
Chollima is a mythical horse that goes really fast and they have "Chollima" campaigns (ideological motivation to work harder like Stakhanovism in the Stalin era). Being on meth might also help.
they won't do it in fear of consequences. it's over.
>puting arming anyone with high-tech anything while throwing unguided fabs
what are they gonna do, send the norks more poo balloon materials?
Yeah, he'll take even more military equipment away from South Korea's chief military threat.
Russias final warning to all that give weapons to Ukraine
>considering
picrel
we laugh but this will unironically scare worst koreans
>picrel
russia can't win against no weapons!?
I mean ignoring he did this before with every western nation, what is he going to do if South Korea did? Attack South Korea? And force the USA to either step down geopolitically or get involved?
Putin goes to North Korea and asks for military aid trading a chunk of what's left of the Russian economy for defective garbage and paper promises. What a success! Ukraine asks South Korea for aid. South Korea says they'll look into it. Red lines crossed! Nooks! You'll be sorry!!!
has putin not realized yet that the big bear reputation is gone?
you're not gonna threaten a country that would wipe the floor with you in direct conflict lmao.
The real Russian army with all its Armatas is gonna sweep over the asiatics in 3 days!
>vivek singh
Redeem status?
Don't call me some shill or moron, this is a PURELY hypothetical question
What would the West's response be if Russia rewarded Norks with actually good missiles (nukes are obviously out of the question because we all know what the answer would be if Russia even considered giving them nukes)
Like actually consistent weapons to threaten Worst Korea and Japan
License the Patriot system probably. It's capable of handling pretty much anything the Russians have.
I wonder how papa xi is feeling since monke might up tech their unreliable pet morons and sparking an even bigger arms race right on their doorstep.
What planet does this moron live on? Does he really believe people take him seriously anymore?
>can't even supply his own troops with modern gear
>can't produce enough missiles to do more than the occasional terror bombing
Russias final warning, pls take it very seriously
>Putin's attempted masterstroke blows up in his face
Every time.
Why is he so terrible at this? Like, literally everything since 2014 has been blunder after blunder, but Russian people still worship him and /misc/ still sucks his dick.
It's really like Putin and all his cabinet think Russia is the only place with agency and refuse to consider there might be responses to their actions, or second and third order effects. Mind blowing. How do you run a country by only existing in the present?
He's showing his age.
K9 Thunder so Ukraine has even more diversity in 155mm SPH.
Kim might export their meat to the frontline in exchange for putin blowies. Not too sure what else besides subpar equipment they have to offer. Of course they might be coaxed to try harass south korea and try direct attention there but it seems a bit futile approach.
>their meat
aren't they in a middle of severe demographic crisis?
Both Koreas are
https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-kim-jong-un-birthrate-72d59d0e2c685549ba8cd8734d8a7fe2
doesn't stop russians does it?
So KM-SAM soon? Would be pretty funny considering Worst Korea bought S-350 tech and worked with Almaz and Fakel to produce it.
The big thing is artillery ammo. South Korea is really the only large industrialized US ally that was worried about a large scale land war prior to 2022. So they have 155mm stocks and shell production capacity that makes most non-American NATO members look like a bunch of wimps.
They also have some T-80U's and BMP-3's that the Russians gave em in the 90's to partly pay for old Soviet debts.Those probably looked fairly good back in the 90's when the ROKA only had early model K1's and didn't operate any IFV's. But now-a-days they're pretty egregiously antiquated compared to South Korea's more modernized domestic AFV's. It's not inconceivable they might offload them to Ukraine if they weren't going to keep them in active line units for much longer anyway.
Granted the ROKA still uses 105mm upgunned M48 Patton's for their reserve units. So maybe they wanna hold onto any B or C tier tanks so long as they can pump HE into Nork human waves and send T-62 turrets into low earth orbit.
>upgunned M48 Patton's
I want to see a bunch of picrel rolling around in Ukraine
the biggest thing they could do right this very instant is to agree to use some of their shell stockpile to replenish other stockpiles so those countries can start delivering right now.
they don't cross a "red line" and it won't take weeks off shipping.
They have massive production capacity as much as I hate asiaticshill you have to give him that. Even if they don't want to give weapon systems to the ukies they can still use that capacity. Speed loan the poles some of the stuff they are going to be building in license later so the pole can leave some more stuff on the border. Give or just simply sell barrels to the ukies. I'm sure I'm only scratching at what can be done with a few willing parties.
where did you get data about overwhelming shell production and stockpiles?
they have a reported stock off 3.4 million 105 shells for about 2k guns
and they have over 4k 155 guns so if they are keeping the same level of shells stockpiled that would be close to 7 million shells.
they have already transferred half a million 155 shells to the US.
Some thing you don't do if you don't think you can replenish those stock piles.
And you need a lot of production capacity to pile those shells so high.
How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK? As far as I see it's just business for norks, and they have nothing to lose in this situation. Unless norks start smoking carelessly within their territory
they don't want buying things from the norks to become a no strings attached kind off thing.
So the message they want to send is "if you buy from the norks, we are going to sell/give to your enemy" so that the norks can't get funding from large scale arms trade
>How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK?
If Ukraine loses NK gets a share.
>As far as I see it's just business for norks, and they have nothing to lose in this situation.
Good relations and future. Also military economy has a price not to mention if they're going to the front lines.
>How does SK supporting Ukraine hurt NK?
It's less about hurting them directly and more about penalizing Russia for what's likely to turn out to be technology and weapons transfers to the Norks.The Norks might have mountains of (crappy) tanks and artillery, but the vast bulk of their air force and air-defenses are 1960's era junk that can't meaningfully deter a modern air-force from bombing the shit out of them with impunity. The Norks getting more modern Russian Jets and SAMs might only be a speed bump against the S. Korean air-force, but that's a speed bump that gives the Norks more time to shell the shit out of Seoul in the event of war flaring up again.
Would be funny. But unlikely. It seems that South Korea plans to use the M48's to provide basic armor support for their reservist infantry divisions in the event of large scale mobilization. If they gave up a whole bunch of them, I'm not sure they'd have anything to replace them with in the force structure.
By contrast the ROKA has the T-80U's in active duty, operating in one of the 3rd Armored Brigades two tank battalions. The other battalion operates K1E1's. Since South Korea is gradually building more K2's and is continuing to upgrade the K1, so there's probably already plans to replace their Soviet tanks.
Please God, let us see M48 Pattons killing Russians in 2024/25.
guys we know that the best asiatics can produce a lot off shells.
We also know that their quality isn't great with hot loads, weak loads, weight allover the place and a lot of duds.
And they can make some semi modern stuff.
But they haven't the capacity to outproduce worst asiatics.
Their strategy of keeping the shell cases and only pouring the explosives is a clear indication that they can't or can't afford to replace or repour their stockpiled shells when their best by date comes around
>Their strategy of keeping the shell cases and only pouring the explosives
as opposed to what?
keeping the explosives and only pouring the shell cases
go home chatGPT, you're drunk.
Yeah hopefully they ruin their barrels with this garbage.
how desperate is Putin for artillery that he's willing to upend decades of profitable foreign policy with the Korea's?
This war is an existential threat for Russia, all through its own doing
>north korea is a shitho-
le
Ballistics + green light to fire anywhere into russia.
Delicious. Finally some good fricking TZD.
Anons correctly predicted the shills would have to hype up North Korea lmao
>tfw you're living in the timeline where puccia can't even keep armenia under it's thumb and has to prostrate itself to north korea for assistance
How the frick did it come to this
>Ukraine turns into a proxy war between the two Koreas
Sasuga Putin-kun, sasuga.
Will russia introduce NK to aids and krokodil? :<
Now that would be funny
How would you get large amounts of cheap vodka into russian trenches from the ukranian side btw
Norks drink very strong soju and do Methamphetamine quite regularly. Officially it is prohibited of course but in reality meth is quite cheap since it can be distilled even in poor home lab and soju is just moonshine so easy to obtain as well.
We're just witnessing the true power of the russian bear
I am still waiting for them to come up with pic related. Has a roof for the cope cage and comfy ride to assault the trenches!
The humble tuktuk will rise
I can see South Korea going 'frickit' soon enough and just pumping a lot of their surplus artillery and rocket systems into Ukraine directly, there is some legal stuff which gets in the way of that but it can probably be either suspended or reversed. Thing with the SK military is that its layers of attrition on its systems which come into play once the most obvious ones are destroyed or taken out in the first strikes, then there's just this crazy fricking amount of second, third and so on replacement gear.
Shit there's probably more gun barrels than trees there in some places
The other thing to consider is that SK is one of the biggest shipyards in the world and if someone 'accidentally a Ukrainian navy' that could be pretty fricking funny!
Yeah I've got a feeling there will be a reaction from SK, maybe not soon but there will definitely be felt if they go ahead with support
there's been sort of the ghetto versions of them, which is just a rubbish bike, sidecar and cage
>the tuk tuk looks more professionally made
>sheeeit
>frickit soon
Nah it's now. Russia didn't listen to SK's redline
The gloves are off. The hands too.
>Mutual Defence Treaty
Reminder Russia signed one of those with Ukraine (as did USA and UK). Look what happened. China has a nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine too. Is North Korea so moronic and or desperate that they're going to trust this nation? Or is the pursuit of missile capable nukes all that matter?
Who the frick else are they gonna have international relations with, huh?
I mean they could just be normal and drop the whole nuke thing and try and not be a pariah state.
>China has a nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine too.
China supports russia.
>Is North Korea so moronic and or desperate that they're going to trust this nation?
They get immediate goods for it.
Guided rocker artillery would be the best thing SK could give (I don't think they actually have that much artillery ammo to spare since they've been back-filling the US and others all along).
>Guided rocker artillery
Like HIMARS tier?
"back-filling" is a strong word. the shells they send are all the old shells from the US cold war reservers, so their own reserves should be technically still be fine. Question is if they want to give up those or just send newly produced. reminder that they are also getting new shells from the US, in return for returning the old US stock
I really do enjoy the “Russia has less bargaining power than North Korea” timeline
translation from https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25257832
look like they are pissed but they are giving Russia a chance "to clarify" before they send their arsenal, but they are thinking about lethal aid.
well they didn't deliver lethal aid in exchange for Russia staying away from the norks, their new treaty is a direct threat to their security interests, so either Russia backs up or they punish them by opening their arsenal for Ukraine.
>russia has to back off or SK supplies Ukraine
>russia has to make a correct decision
So it'll be SK 155s being shipped to Ukraine then.
I think the most hilarious fact is, that both will probably not resort to English for communication, since this is the language of their top enemy.
But both speak German.
Kim Jong Un grew up in Switzerland and Putin had a German wife and lived there several years.
The thought of both of them sitting in a room saying: "Ja. Über mehr Granaten können wir reden. Die Produktion läuft gerade an."
("Yes. We can talk about the delivery of more grenades. The production took off recently.")
>Putin: Hallo Brudi, hast du Granaten für mich?
>Kim: Auwä scho!
i see some problems there
>Putin: So wer sind diese Leute
>Kim: dieser Mann ist Her Bierjunge, Generql und Minister für Kriegsproduktion
>Putin: ein angenehmes Treffen Her General Bierjunge
>Kim: dopplt
>Putin: ach du schlaun Arschloch, so auf den Tisch
I'd assume they know the basics of the Biercommand
Black person no one outside of Switzia has ever heard of that shit
Kin Jong Un grew up in Switzerland
Yes and we were talking about communication problems between someone learning swiss and someone learning real german
>Real German
Putin lived in Saxony. He knows how to speak incomprehensible gibberish.
They probably used translators.
>Russia-Ukraine war is turning into a proxy war between North & South Korea
How did one tiny, fractured peninsula became two Great Powers?
Looking forward to watching top North Korean officials dying under mysterious, explosive circumstances, like they fricking deserve to.
>what can the South Koreans hand to Ukraine
without shells everything is useless