We need to give Zelensky more weapons so they can take back Crimea. Do you support this?

We need to give Zelensky more weapons so they can take back Crimea. Do you support this?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Next question.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I fully support any measure which leads to the death of at one (1) or more Russian soldiers on Ukrainian territory. There is no monetary cost too high for allowing those Russian mongoloids to get away with their spastic antics

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is a moderate viewpoint

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is a moderate viewpoint

      basically a pacifist

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    we should give them back their nukes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ah I never thought about it till now, but the double flash is the nuke actually going off, creating light and various forms of radiation, penetraing the local atmophere, but then being blocked by water vapour it creates as it violently expands and inhibits visible light. It then creates what appears to be a second flash as thermal release of light from the same superheated atmosphere over a larger diameter then forces its way through the inhibiting vapour to an atmosphere not steam dense enough to inhibit it.
      I assume they can be sure it's not a regular double flash explosion by noticing only a singlular flash from wavelenghs that pass through steam or something like that?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Haha, Yes!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, the nukes that weren't decommissioned were transfered to Russia.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The deterrent value of the nuclear weapons in Ukraine was also questionable: Ukraine had taken "administrative control" of the weapon delivery systems and implemented measures to prevent Russia from using them, but would have had to spend 12 to 18 months to establish full operational control over its nuclear arsenal. The ICBMs also had a range of 5,000–10,000 km (initially targeting the United States), which meant that they could only have been re-targeted to hit Russia's far east.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The ICBMs also had a range of 5,000–10,000 km (initially targeting the United States), which meant that they could only have been re-targeted to hit Russia's far east.
        Whoever wrote this is a fricking moron honestly.
        "Muh nukes have a minimum range" when Europe is right there kek

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ICBMs fly on an elliptical trajectory. In order to have intercontinental range, the boosters are designed to take the payload up to an altitude of approximately 1200 miles at apogee. The boosters cannot be throttled back.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, so aim up.
            The boosters don't have to throttle back.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Your understanding of ballistic trajectories is on the level of the paste eating third grader and you should really stop posting.
              Not even that anon.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    we should bomb the three gorges dam, i think that would show putin we mean business.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated post

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I agree

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Taiwan Glowie detected

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        people have been supporting taiwan long before ukraine you bat soup eating chinaBlack person

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hai, I would like to order 1 iPad and 2 iPhones, also, can I order a bowl of cantonese rice and 2 spring rolls with plum sauce to-go chinkchong?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is so obvious and yet it seems to elude most western homies at the moment.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      western homies dont want the war to end.

      They want a slow meatgrinder that depletes and destabilizes Russia. A quick surrender wouldn't achieve that.

      Proxy wars aren't meant to be won, they're meant to be so damaging and longstanding that there is no victory for anyone directly involved.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And what if russian allies step in ? what if they don't lose ? seems like a very dangerous gamble to me.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >russian allies

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Anon the Russians themselves killed NATO at home and China just told them they should stop fighting and negotiate returning territory.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >what if Russian allies step in
          Like the Congo? Somalia? Then more and higher-quality weapons will be brought in to keep the status quo. It's not like China is going to put boots onnaground. It's literally just deep-africa Black folk for hire, worse than vatnig penal battalions

          >what if they don't lose
          The damage is already done. The ground is inconsequential geopolitically, all that matters is depleting reserves of weapons, ammunition, and armor. I obviously don't want vatnigs to get a single square foot of soil added to their borders, but from a western strategic perspective, that's not a primary concern.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >what if they don't lose ?
          murder Putin

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Russian Allies
          >Picrel

          The drunk Russians can't hold their own anyways. You think the west is afraid of the lower forms of life that ride the coat tails of Russia?

          10/10 b8 you got me to reply

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Russia has no Allie’s just “friends” that but their resources at discount

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What do you get out of it by spouting obvious bullshit? Do you get a kick out of it? Genuinely don't understand

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Belarus, Iran and Nicaragua?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >And what if russian allies step in ?
          Who, the BRICS? North korea? Iran? Curb stomp all of them, it would make the world a better place

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Russian allies
          The only allies Russia has with any real power are China, Iran, North Korea and (to a lesser extent) India. China is coy about sending them weapons, partially because they are afraid of sanctions, and partially because they don't want to deplete their own stockpiles of weapons in case they need them for Taiwan or India. Iran has already done everything they can by sending them Shahed drones, which have only proven useful for terror bombing. North Korea is supplying ammunition and small arms, but that can only go so far. India is currently torn between whether it should continue to support Russia, or abandon Russia in favor of forming stronger ties with the West. It is increasingly looking like they will pivot towards the West. None of them are even remotely contemplating sending troops.

          The rest of Russia's allies (Eritrea, Syria, DRC, Venezuela, Belarus, etc.) are too weak to do anything.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >russian allies
          Noam Chomsky and Richard D. Wolff are shitty fighters anon.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh my God! that is so *concerning*. I never even thought of that. Whatever shall we do about such danger? It's SUCH a *gambit*.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          CSTO (AKA NATO but actually good and competent according to russia) already collapsed in the opening weeks of the war.
          Cause even fricking kazakhstan knows putin is a cia plant hellbent on destroying ruski mir

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          who? The CSTO nations russia didnt even help when they were attacked? The same ones that were infighting not 3 months ago?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Brics ain’t going to do shit. The US would immediately go after Brazil with the rest of South America on their side

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Impressive.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not gonna tell you outed yourself grammatically, but you did

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it always the double statement with a question mark with you people?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >And what if russian allies step in ?
          Since you posted this, Khazakstan has discussed a strategic partnership with the US and Serbia has announced that any Serbians who left to join Wagner will be arrested upon their return.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >They want a slow meatgrinder

        Only reason there's a "meatgrinder" is a mild winter that the Russians are clumsily trying to take advantage of by throwing bodies at Bakhmut. What everyone really wants is ground dry enough to drive motherfricking Leopards and Bradleys over.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >throwing bodies at Bakhmut
          But Ukraine has only lost 5 guys right? You fricking morons are so fricking predictable with your moron tier shilling.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you're just going to have to take Ukraines word that they can handle their own front ok

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This is not counterstrike, K/D ratio won't give you victory, achieving strategic objectives does, and Russia doesn't have any right now.

            Ukraine is fighting for it's survival, they don't have any alternative than fight.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If they wanted that why isn't the sanctions regime harsher? Both the EU and the US have been dragging their feet with this and still leave plenty of loopholes for trade, even though they out of all people have the greatest capacity to stomp out trafficking.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Alternatively, the West does want Ukraine to win so this whole thing is contained, but they underestimated Russia's willingness to send wave after wave of fighting age men to be slaughtered.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I want the war to end as quickly as possible, however it must be done with the reclaiming of all lost Ukrainian territory, including Crimea

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what if Crimean people don't want to be back?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They can go back to Russia

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              that sounds like ethnic cleansing

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                More like a peaceful ethnic exchange. Happened to Germany after WW2, so it's fair game.

            • 1 year ago
              Mandic

              They are already in Russia.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Crimea isn’t Russia

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't you that serb who is obsessed with bbc?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He is.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't they all?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                in that case, there should be no problem indiscriminately bombing crimea when the time comes since the civilian population has already escaped to russia as you claim

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Russians are notoriously bad at deciding what is and isn't Russian.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you serbian?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Source?

              • 1 year ago
                Mandic
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Crimea is Ukrainian. There is nothing stopping those who want to be Russian from moving to Russia

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            58% of Crimeans in 1991 voted for Ukrainian independence, of which they would be a part
            obviously I don't trust russian referenda even slightly which makes this the most recent indication of Crimean preferences between Russia and Ukraine that I know of
            It's unlikely in any case to be as simple as "Ukraine re-annexes Crimea and does whatever it wants", they will be forced to treat it as a special region so autonomous it might as well be independent by the UN etc.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's even easier than that. The original annexation by Russia is illegal and isn't recognized by the UN. Ukraine doesn't have to do shit because the Crimea is legally theirs and has been this entire time.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Kill the men, rape the women and children.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Russia IS bad, though. And insanely bad for the United States, never mind the rest of the world.

        They are the reason Assad stayed in power.
        They prop up anti-American whacko states like Iran, North Korea, Venezuela.
        They fricked with at least three major US elections ON RECORD. Massively in 2016.

        If you are really a nationalist, you will understand that Russia is not some fluffy fricking Care Bear. They are our mortal enemy and they have been since 1945. Literally nothing changed with the USSR collapsing except we took them down a big notch.

        They were emboldened to strike at the very heart of our democracy by fricking with our elections. You are a b***h if you want us to stand there and take that, any real American has wanted to hit back and hit back HARD since they fricked us over in 2016 and that is exactly what Ukraine is all about.

        Kill their troops, take the fight to their cities, and do not stop until the regime is removed and ideally the entire Russian mob state dismembered.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >take the fight to their cities, and do not stop until the regime is removed
          Not necessary and could potentially cause more problems than it would solve. The best strategy is containment. The free world has bigger fish to fry (North Korea, China) and it can't do that if it uses it's military resources to destroy Russia.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >They are the reason Assad stayed in power.
          Ok and?
          >They prop up anti-American whacko states like Iran, North Korea, Venezuela.
          Those states don’t have to be anti-American. We are the ones sanctioning them
          >They fricked with at least three major US elections ON RECORD. Massively in 2016.
          Frick off democrat shill

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      how's it obvious?
      terror-bombing Crimean civilians is not something the West sanctions.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Should be about time at some point. Dresden and Hiroshima/Nagasaki were also bombed eventually. There is only so long you can take the high road before it gets boring and you want shit to be over.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Dresden and Hiroshima/Nagasaki were also bombed eventually
          Both of those attacks were unjustified war crimes

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you will be allowed to say this about one more city then.
            still no one will care.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              What?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Who's talking about terror bombing? Can't you think of any way to use long range weapons other than killing civvies with them?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          RuAF stores their ammo now in single trucks distributed in civilian neighborhoods.
          If you want to hit those, you will kill civilians.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I am not convinced that this is true at all, nor that it is feasible for the amount of shells needed in a war of this intensity. Regardless, ATACMS can be used for other targets too.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, lets cut off Crimea.
              Western MSM will love seeing starving civilians.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Sure, lets cut off Crimea.
                Yes
                >Western MSM will love seeing starving civilians.
                I don't give a frick what the media wants.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't object. I am a moderate.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >starving civilians
                What's keeping them from starving right now? How will that change?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I know I would.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No worries, Ukraine will feed them.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Uh yes, of course they will lmao the media loves people dying horribly and and all-around misery.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              this
              just blow up the entire fricking bridge and position troops in position to attack crimea after taking back some more southern cities like melitopol
              ol vlad will be happy to negotiate in that position, if he is still being an unreasonable homosexual then start seriously thinking about how to best invade it, shouldn't be too hard if they can't supply it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                if the land corridor still exists, why would RU care?
                if the land corrridor doesn't exist, why would UA need ATACMS when their HIMARS can already reach it with GLSDB from Mariupol?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >if the land corridor still exists
                bro the land corridor is between post-2014 Ukraine and Crimea
                Russia doesn't have a land corridor with Crimea which is why they build the frickin bridge, to create an artificial connection

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Since 2022 there's a land corridor again.
                Bridge was build in 2018 when there wasn't any.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Lol that's why I said Ukraine would do this AFTER retaking the southern cities
                i.e. taking away that land corridor

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Somaliland has priority.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, why not?

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Look, the more weapons people give them, the more russians they kill, the calmer europe will be in the future and prosperous. Every rocket and tank means years of peace in the grand scale of things.
    This is why indians and third worlders are the biggest shill farms around, they doesnt grasp how good it feels to get rid of the russian thorn from your side

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they support that? They quite like Russia being a thorn in the side of the hated west.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I'm eastern european, not western. All I see are dead mobiks without lifting a finger. Any gun given to the ukies is a gun that potentially make europe safer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >more unmitigated arms trading and war profiteering equals more peace

      I am not invested in this conflict, but I think that's rather silly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Armed society is a polite society

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It is clear that Russia will never stop harboring delusions of re-establishing their Tzarist/Soviet era empire. So short of demographic collapse (and they will likely become some abomination of Russian-revanchism plus Tatar/Chechen jihadism next cycle), in 40 years or more we'll have a repeat of this. Or the minute there is a weakness in the West Russia will try and take over their neighbors yet again. Whatever Russia accuses you of generally they do it themselves. So even the whole NATO enlargement is more them projecting that if the west is weak for a moment they will sweep up and take the Baltics, Ukraine, try and take Finland.

        Dismember Russia. Whether that's the people or the country I don't care.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yes France and england we will dismantle Germany that definitely won't lead to anything wrong.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well dividing Germany actually did work, because by the time they reunited they weren't harboring delusions of superpower status.

            And had they divided Germany back in WW1 it would have also worked. They just did something not hard enough and not nice enough.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Dismantling Germany in 45 lead to the most peaceful and prosperous time period in the Europe's history.

            So yeah, it worked out pretty damn well.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Duh, best way to end a war is for one side to have a decisive advantage

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Ukraine should take some of russia, too. Just to give them a buffer zone

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Belgorod, Kursk, and Bryansk would be a good start. Maybe Rostov and Krasnodar just to block the Russians from the black sea entirely. Local populations will be relocated to the israeli Autonomous Oblast.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't support Ukraine taking territory they don't have a modern (reformed Kievan Rus doesn't count) claim to. But other countries should go for it. It's a good opportunity.

      >Moldovan Transnistria
      >Polish Koenigsberg
      >Finnish Karelia
      >Japanese Karafuto and Kurils

      Am I missing anything?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Chinese Manchuria, Mongolian Buryatia and Tuva, Georgia reclaiming its ancient imperial lands in the Caucasus.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          NATO should tell China they'd allow them to take back Manchuria after Russia collapses in exchange for staying out of the war.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        One change
        >German Koenigsberg

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't support Ukraine taking territory they don't have a modern (reformed Kievan Rus doesn't count) claim to. But other countries should go for it. It's a good opportunity.

      >Moldovan Transnistria
      >Polish Koenigsberg
      >Finnish Karelia
      >Japanese Karafuto and Kurils

      Am I missing anything?

      >they don't have a modern claim
      In fact, you are absolutely wrong. Or, more likely, lying.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. They should take enough of Russia to put Moscow in HIMARS range so that if Russia fricks around Russia will find out.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Correct

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How will ATACMs help Ukraine take Crimea?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It would cut the bridge in a matter of days, and keep it down for the rest of the war, making resupply of troops there slower, harder, more expensive and more interdictable.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the bridge wouldn’t go down without demolition charges. The ATACMS don’t have enough explosive power.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          demolition charges come for free.
          RuAF needs fresh ammunition.
          Hit that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Who said there would only be one?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    hell yes
    imagine how calmer world would be without russia financing every radical moron around the globe

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    of course.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, of course not.
    I believe we should give them enough weapons to raze every settlement in russia and enough gas to liquidate the entire population.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Give him enough weapons to make the fall of Crimea inevitable, and you will see putin shit his way to the negotiating table

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Since Russia repeatedly is saying they are at war with NATO, I don't see why there should be any red lines on equipment for Ukraine, save for nukes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      how many ATACMS do you think the US has?

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    But I'd rather Putin not negotiate, the more Russia suffers, the better.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      chemical weapons on the blue board?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >still pushing the chemical weapons bullshit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Do you not know how lethal DHMO is to humans?

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, it is absolutely necessary for this war to drag on as long as possible to ensure Russia is ruined and depopulated.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then go fight for Ukraine, pussy

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well now I'm mad that's not what geezer mcpolitician proposed

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >We need to give Zelensky more weapons so they can take back Crimea
    yes, wrap it up and ship it

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes it’s literally what most of those weapons were built for

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    NO!
    >I want to see what Zelenskys being blackmailed over! Imagine the smell

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's no fun if they are just sitting in a bunker somewhere.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    absolutely yes.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If he fears he's losing Crimea why would he negotiate? Unless he thinks he could negotiate a way to keep Crimea.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Putin is moronic and already annexed other parts of Ukraine that he currently doesn't even hold.
      Crimea lost its special status and is just one among many other annexed parts.
      There won't be an exception for Crimea anymore.
      He has to give it back, too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So there won't be a negotiation.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This was such an epic self-own. Putin has been given like 500 off-ramps but he seemingly won't be happy until he's Gadhafied in a St. Petersburg storm sewer.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You need dinghies and amphibious vehicles for that shit. The idea that ATACMs helps Ukraine take Crimea is a like thinking you can take Kiev with Sneed drones.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you will need a lot more than ATACMS to conquer Crimea.
    have fun letting your troops march through this pinpoint.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They don’t have to send troops onto the peninsula at first. Cutting off the few supply roads and train tracks, and getting MLRS into reach of the Kerch-strait might be the end of the Russian occupation of the Crimea.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's very optimistic.
        RuAF might dig in nonetheless.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, it’s optimistic, and these things won’t happen in the immediate future. Last year we‘ve seen other barely predictable events happening, like the breakthrough east of Kharkiv and taking back Kherson.

          The Russians will be dug in on the Crimea, or bound there without supplies at some point, depending on how you look at it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Russians already dug in in front of the Crimea.
            Cutting off the land-connection will not be easy and Russia can always counter-attack from their own soil.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I think we've already seen they are incapable of counter-attacking

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              True, it won’t be easy and it will be costly. That the RuAF will be prepared, to their possibilities, is certain. On the other hand, will a couple of hundred fellatio forts and crude concrete obstacles enough to prevent reaching, let’s say, Melitopol or Berdyansk?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Crimea, if it is to be retaken, will be retaken by siege. All Ukraine needs to do is cut off the land bridge. If they get situated along the sea of azov they will be able to repeatedly strike the Kerch bridge. Russian seaborne shipping has already been unsafe. Air freight will be unsafe. Crimea still doesn't have water from mainland Ukraine and without the ability to resupply by land, sea or air it will starve.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Crimea, if it is to be retaken, will be retaken by siege.
                why not 10 000 JDAMs?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              they were dug in and kherson was unconquerable as well.

              How is kherson, by the way?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia can always counter-attack
              Can they though?

              that sounds like ethnic cleansing

              Look, if they renounced their Ukrainian citizenship after Russia took over, it's not ethnic cleansing. It's visa enforcement,

              >russian allies
              Noam Chomsky and Richard D. Wolff are shitty fighters anon.

              Mearsheimer has 73 confirmed kills, though. The dude's just nuts with a pair of nunchucks.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Mearsheimer
                man frick that guy and his boneheaded pseudorealist positions. o ya fricking let Russia take Ukraine because they frame it as existential to the Russian nation. bullshit. the ruskie elite want power and control, and they'll settle for power and control over their own people if they can't have former SSR states too. they've collapsed before and they'll collapse again damnit, no sense taking their domestic messaging at face value. frickin dork. who's paying him? he needs a slap and then a glossectomy if he still won't stop flapping.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >if they renounced their Ukrainian citizenship after Russia took over, it's not ethnic cleansing. It's visa enforcement,
                Anyone who obtained a russian passport at any time in the last ten years gets deported back to russia. If they don't like it there, they can figure out how to emigrate to some paradise that's willing to accept them.

                Frankly, every country in the world should do the same. Any russian citizen or passport holder gets sent back. They can apply for a visa or asylum or whatever from within russia. These Black folk act just like the Black folk from Africa and the Middle East: they fricked their own countries into a sewer and, like locusts, are trying to "migrate" somewhere else to shit all over and strip barren.

                Frick every God damned last one of them. Pool's Closed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Helping Russia resolve its manpower shortage won't help much. Best follow up the mass deportation with nuclear first-strikes so the plague of Russians can never spread ever again, it's the only way to be sure.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >cut off supplies
      >neptune all boats trying to boat in supplies
      >patriot all supplies getting in by air
      it's not that hard

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        there's no political will for this, see

        Sure, lets cut off Crimea.
        Western MSM will love seeing starving civilians.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody gives a frick about Ukrainian-inflicted civilian casualties

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Tell civilians they can just leave
          >Have drones flying 24/7 to record Russians preventing them from leaving
          >Anyone who stays starves or drains the military's supplies

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          invading and occupying Crimean property is not a human right, returning Crimea to Crimeans by forcing the removal of Russian transplants is "decolonization"

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    YES

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    YES

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    YWNBAW

  38. 1 year ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    Maybe the real Commonwealth was the trail of dead Muscovites left in our wake?

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Onward to Moscow. Liberate ancient Ukrainian territory.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, absolutely

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So long as they keep giving us videos of slavshit getting blown up then I'm all for it.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelensky should be given nukes

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically. Japan and Taiwan need nukes too

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Who said I was being ironic

  43. 1 year ago
    Mandic

    >so they can take back Crimea

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. The fact I get to watch my tax dollars finally do something useful like smear Vatniks across the countryside instead of paying for more IRS agents is fantastic

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Of course.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Response?

    [...]
    YWNBAW

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I support whatever will kill the most russians

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    uhmmm sorry sweaty but the russian's PWNED the nazi's in the great patriotic war, israelites rock!

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever will lead to the most Russian casualties. I'm not too invested in the other results.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever kills the most Ukrainians.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >these israelites are insufferable
    I know, that’s why we need to support the Ukrainian Nazis, so they can wipe out the israelites.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Doing some quick math put the cost per US citizen for our support to Ukraine so far at just under $200. Really, most of our support has been in-kind stuff the boomers already paid or borrowed for 30 years ago so the cost to younger people is less than that.

    $200 for 12 months is about $16/mo per citizen. Honestly, if you look at the value that this war has generated in terms of
    -gopro war footage
    -drone snuff flicks
    -dead Russians
    -Armatard going silent for a few weeks before becoming completely unhinged

    that's a pretty good subscription service. better value than netflix imo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      US Army doesn't have that many ATACMS.
      Why give away stuff that you can't replenish any time soon?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ATACMS, and the army in general really isn't relevant to the other war we have to deal with, Taiwan. I don't support sending naval or non-obsolete air assets to Ukraine because we might need those in the pacific. Tanks? Artillery? We're not going to use those in a war with China over Taiwan. At worst, having those around just encourages DC to go on another sandbox adventure for Israel. If we have another nation willing to use them effectively to kill our rivals why not draw down stocks?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ATACMS can reach China from Taiwan.
          Taiwan would be very happy to have them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Why give away stuff
        None of it is given away it is paid for so the military get new shit.

        >If I get my wife a 20 buck Starbucks gift card and give it to her who has my 20 bucks?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >In 2007, the U.S. Army terminated the ATACMS program due to cost, ending the ability to replenish stocks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The US and its allies sunk trillions into the Middle East over 20 years for questionable results. In 12 months, Russia's military capabilities have been significantly reduced by giving the Ukrainians mostly old Cold War weapons.

      Even the most skilled merchant would struggle to give you a better deal than that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >$16/month to kill commieboo soviet larpers
      I don't think I've ever gotten such a good deal before in my entire life.

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    97% of Crimeans voted to join Russia. Ukraine installed a dam to stop 90% of Crimea's fresh water, legally a war crime.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >97% of Crimeans voted to join Russia.
      Just like how the 'vast majority' of people in Eastern Ukraine 'voted' to join the Russian Federation?

      You might as well cite North Korean elections as proof that the DPRK is a genuine democracy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, you also believe that Donetsk and Luhansk didn't want independence from Ukraine after it became a CIA puppet state and even after Ukraine committed war crimes against women and children there, they'd still want to be part of Ukraine again? Right?

        Turn off the news and turn on your brain you fricking dolt.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          scuttle off back to your slum you lying tankie vermin before someone throws you in jail for selling steroids and needles

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The conflict was killing single digit numbers of civilians most years after the first. Russia's forced conscription of the entire male population by proxy has effectively ethnically cleansed the Donbass, it is nothing but old men, women and children left.
          Putin does not give a single frick about the lives of Russian people. Only building his own myth.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >maidan was done by CIA
          >bucha was done by MI6
          >muh dumbass genocide

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Give any country killing russians whatever weapons they want to kill more russians, and if anyone b***hes about it nuke em

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What is there to negotiate? If they're in a position to take Crimea then just take it and put this whole affair to a definitive end. Russia will never agree to any peace they want another forever war anyway.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Like. Clockwork.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >"have you ever tried just living your life and not sucking dicks?"
      clearly words of a man who's never sucked a dick

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yea

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    HURR DURR DO ANYTHING TO START WW3 FRICKING ASSRAPING FRICKING MORON GODDAMN I AM NOT INTERESTED IN DYING IN NUCLEAR HELLFIRE FOR UKRAINE

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Personally, my Russian friends who sold me stolen army gear are smart enough to avoid the bad shit so I’m in the camp of doing whatever continues to distract people from my own nefarious deeds like cheesing Heroes 3.

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes please and thank you

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >see more Vatnicks get blown apart in HD
    >for the cost of buying everyone in the USA a Disney+ sub
    I'm fine with it. But...
    >Putin negotiating in good faith
    >ever
    He's more likely to nuke everyone. So I can live S.T.A.L.K.E.R. on my homestead IRL, which isn't so bad either; I'm nowhere near anywhere that is being targeted.

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. We should give Ukraine more weapons and ammo. We haven't done enough yet. We have so much more to give them. We should also start sending US citizens over there for mandatory humanitarian work.

    Ukraine is literally just like Hogwarts when Lord Voldemort attacked the castle, they need The Avengers to step in and save the day! And the United States is obviously Captain America.

    Slava Ukraini!

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >We need to give Zelensky more weapons so they can take back Crimea. Do you support this?

    Yes. Dead antifa Black folk are literally the best government program in the past 100 years.

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I want more dead vatBlack folk.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes, I want more dead vatBlack folk.
      everybody likes that

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dick Cheney advocated at the end of the Cold War that not only should the USSR be broken up but Russia itself, "so it can never again threaten us"
    (in Washington successful defiance and independence is seen as a threat)

    Since the 1990s the US has privatized Russias assets and created a huge transfer in wealth out of the country that caused a major drop in its life expectancy and standard living
    Meddled in Russian affairs and elections
    Encircled it with NATO military bases
    And encouraged breakaway seperatist movements

    If Russia fears its future is at stake and risks humiliation and possible break up they might use nuclear weapons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      My only regret is that we didn't try harder to murder the Black folk while they were down.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, it sounds like it didn't work and they should have broken Russia even more.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >caused a major drop in its life expectancy
      Clearly not enough when there are still millions of these subhumans around
      >standards of living
      >leftardism fails and runs out of shit to steal from otgers
      >US did this

      Cheney was wrong, it shouldn't have been broken up, it should have been nuked to glass.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dick Cheney was in the losing faction of that debate for over a decade moron. Bush I propped your shithole country up in multiple ways from paying the salaries of your nuclear scientists to getting Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons (in exchange for a promise that Russia would respect its sovereign territory, lol).
      Then Chechnya and the 1993 constitutional crisis happened, Eastern Europe was forced to realize that Russia hadn't fundamentally changed and it was just a different gang of thugs running the show. The USA wasn't forcing anyone to join NATO, the sole enticement was NATO membership = Russia won't invade you.

      >if russia fears humiliation it's gonna NOOK!
      It brings no benefit and guarantees the state dies. And Russia has 100% put itself into this position where collapse is even a possibility. If Putin did almost anything except what he did, if he just took Novorossiya, if he didn't invade and made the US look like paranoid idiots and humiliate the Biden administration, etc Russia would be at no risk of collapse.
      At a certain point you need to stop being a pussy about nukes. Nuclear blackmail never works. All they are is an assurance that the US won't invade you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Since the 1990s the US has privatized Russias assets and created a huge transfer in wealth out of the country that caused a major drop in its life expectancy and standard living
      Yes, but the people who helped make that happen are the people now in charge of Russia. Putin can't hate the West for installing the kleptocracy her represents.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOKS

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Dick Cheney advocated at the end of the Cold War that not only should the USSR be broken up but Russia itself, "so it can never again threaten us"
      And it is a great sorrow that the US didn't do it.
      For the last near five hundred years ever since the formation of the Czardom in 1547, Russia has in some way been involved in most European conflicts—and nigh always on the wrong side. Imagine how happy a world we would live in if during the last 200 years Russia played no part in war—did not instigate it, did not participate in it. It is somewhat regrettable, but the dissolution of the Russian state—if not the eradication of the concept of a Russian Nation itself—is the only reasonable solution to World conflict.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ya mudda

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No but I don't really care.
    Russia has exposed themselves to the world they are not a threat so I'd rather spend the tax dollars domestically.

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously.

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you support this?
    Yes.

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is basically the sole reason for the trooning of the West including the anti-gun movement which threatens /k/s personal weapons. The moderate thing to do and the only way to reduce their debasement of our beloved /k/ is to contain the vatniks yet again and bleed them out.

    The idea would be extermination as just reprisal for what they did to my /k/, but I recognize that is far too moderate.

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    As eastern euro I know there can be no half measures with russia.
    You either wipe them completely and cause a collapse or you look down the barrel another 30 years of malfeaseance, theft, kreml controlled political parties and terrorist movements and finally another georgia-ukraine

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >if Putin fears losing Crimea, he will negotiate
    He is already offering negotiations though? As in, "let us keep territories and we'll stop attacking (crossed fingers behind back)".

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke russia, unleash all manner of biological, radiological and chemical weapons, utilize satanist black magic and then salt their earth

    Autonomous drones with mounted machine guns can then patrol the lands and hunt for survivors until the next century

    I want russia to make the original Fallout look like a paradise

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The right answer.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is far too extreme a suggestion. You must be more of a moderate, my friend. How about we replace the sodium chloride with radium bromide salts?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you, by any chance, a moderate?

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ok Kiev takes Crimea and donbas. But what's next? All people there are speaking Russian therefore they can't ban Russian and have to switch to a two language thing which means federalization. Isn't Ukraine against it? How will they solve it, pro tip they can't.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >All people there are speaking Russian
      Just like other 90% of Ukraine? If all russian speakers there didn't support Ukraine over Russia, this war actually would have ended in three days with victory of putin.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But most people in Crimea and Donbass don't support Zelensky . What do.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And why this is a problem? They will just vote for other party/politician.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Unless Ukraine gives them a lot of gibs they will just stick with Putin. IMHO

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Proofs?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They can relocate to the great mother russia that they like and love so much, I'm confident that russia will become such a great place to live after the war is over.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They won't. And why would they if they lived there forever? Your dumb hohol fantasies don't work IRL.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >But most people in Crimea and Donbass don't support Zelensky .
          Why did they vote for him then?

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely yes!
    More weapons+ Ukraine chads = More dead vatniks

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. Obviously.

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  81. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely

  82. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As much as I want this, I doubt even losing Crimea would make Putin quit, he would just play the "actually we are tactically retreating indefinitely from Crimea" and the Russian people will accept it because Putin controls the secret police.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If they lost Crimea then most certainly they would have already lost territory in the rest of Ukraine. And then Ukraine would join either NATO, EU or both. And that's a game over for Russia

  83. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    frick them up please

  84. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >very much related

  85. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, instead I want every country in the western world to declare total war on Russia. Just stop fricking around and launch a full offensive with a hundred armies. March to Moscow and kill every living thing. Enough with this pussy ass shit.

  86. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  87. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  88. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think that terrorist attacks on Russian civilians would hasten the end or prolong the war?

  89. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >should we fight our enemies
    Why do you ask?

  90. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Partially related, I think the reason for the supposed Ukrainian upcoming offensive on Transnistria is similar on a smaller scale. Russia has "only" lost men and equipment so far. Ukraine and allies want to threaten Russia to lose something that appears on a map.

  91. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  92. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i support anything that means more dead vatniks

  93. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, we need to bomb Crimea children because there are no more kids left in Bambas

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