We learned how to throw rocks and now we're the scariest animal in existence.
A hairless monkey with an anti-tank gun and explosives would confuse and horrify pic related. Will anything ever surpass us when it comes to violence?
We learned how to throw rocks and now we're the scariest animal in existence.
Ayy lmao
This
To a creature that has mastered the sciences to the level that they can visit us, we would seem like ants
Until one catches a stone to the frontal lobe or whatever they might have, then it's monkey rape time.
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>Tfw you will never have a first inappropriate first contact with a alien species
Sad.
lmao imagine sending down your ambassadors to earth thinking it'll go pretty good, almost every sentient race so far as welcomed us!
>we beat them to death with rocks and rape the corpses
and so we were glassed from orbit
I think the major decider of "is this species worth our time?" is the ability to comprehend language. Chimps, dolphins, and elephants all have incredible intellect compared to the other animals, but they are on-par with a hamster in their ability to convey thoughts. Language conveys complex thought, which seperates you from anything else on Earth that breathes. There's something special there which completely removes you from being a dumb animal.
Daily reminder that all other animal communication is fundamentally different from language and its discrete infinity. In the beginning was the Word, indeed.
>Chimps, dolphins, and elephants all have incredible intellect compared to the other animals, but they are on-par with a hamster in their ability to convey thoughts.
I’m not certain that this is totally correct. I recall hearing that it was determined that whales/dolphin languages are complex enough to even have dialects based on where they’re from. But the general idea behind your post is correct imo.
>I recall hearing that
Read less science ''''''journalism''''''. It's where people who couldn't hack it as scientists end up.
some apes know fuckin sign language and Ive seen them literally express distinct emotion for eachother and towards us as friends/caretakers
whales of almost every kind are all incredibly intelligent, dolphins are one of a few animals on the planet truly capable of revenge.. malice.. genuinely probably has been a really smart dolphin alive at some point who looked at the sky and went "huh wonder whats up there" when he came up for air on a clear night
lower apes/primates, like naggers, are on a scale of reciprocation, acting in turn of what is taught; think sociopaths
cetacea are however extremely intelligent, so you are correct on that fact
>some apes know fuckin sign language
No they don't, tardnon. Grow up and accept that Koko was a hoax. No animal other than humans has language. At best they can ape it without understanding it and associate symbols with food or some dumb shit like that.
>Grow up and accept that Koko was a hoax
That's probably a half-truth, I think it's clear that she understood what some signs meant.
>No animal other than humans has language.
>At best they can ape it without understanding
Grey Parrots can learn a decent vocabulary and some very simple SOV grammar.
They don't have the social intelligence to teach it to other parrots though so it's purely an individual thing.
>Grey Parrots can learn a decent vocabulary and some very simple SOV grammar.
And Clever Hans was a math prodigy, sure. Your Nobel prize is waiting.
yeah I don't think they necessarily understand it, although I have seen a few studies with Orangutans, they actually seem sharper and more emotional then Gorillas or Chimps
>At best they can ape it without understanding it and associate symbols with food or some dumb shit like that.
that IS rudimentary sign language dickhead, your DOG is smart enough to use its body language and voice to tell you things.. APES are absolutely capable of it but they're not domesticated, they have to be removed from the wild
Okay, tardnon, your flawed understanding of sign language definitely trumps the findings of decades worth of linguists' studies.
But aliens dont exist anon. Grow up.
Does owning a jeep saves you from a hillbilly with a shotgun?
Ayy kablamo
Ants are pretty wild. Do not underestimate them.
the more i think about it, the more apt the comparison to ants is, i imagine one ayy to another
>sire, there is an infestation of pests in this region, and they have been spotted taking resources from our kitchen
>they have formed a primitive colony, they farm the land, and they wage war on each other with primitive means
>exterminate them?
>right away sire, i will poison them, they will be powerless to stop it, and i will check up on their activity after one galactic cycle to ensure that they have all perished
i wouldn't be surprised if humans are the true monsters of the universe
if aliens really are here, then we'd be dead if they weren't pussies
if demons are real, then they could tell aliens about us, yet this just leads back to the former statement
and if aliens aren't here yet &/or demons aren't real/gonna rat us out, then this means we have time to create the ultimate weapons of annihilation, and forge entire empires of total human domination
>if aliens really are here, then we'd be dead if they weren't pussies
You don't go around beating up retarded children do you?
Sometimes they're cute and you just want to sit and watch them to see the funny things they do.
>You don't go around beating up retarded children do you?
haha n-noooo i'd never haha...
Just for you anon
You don't go around beating up retarded children do you?
Only if you don’t want them to grow up into retarded adults
>Entirety of humanity is the intergalactic equivalent of Florida Man
>i wouldn't be surprised if humans are the true monsters of the universe
i was also 12 once
>total domination of a bunch of lifeless, inhospitable rocks
Yeah, wow, very impressive. Have fun doing that, sweety, meanwhile I'll be virtually livin' it up in my personal O'Neill cylinder.
imagine an entire solar system of those cylinders, the size of planets
and then now, imagine them on a universal scale
that is domination; unrequired objects turned into habitation, either physical &/or electric
would you say otherwise?
Sounds like a lot of work for no gain. Spreading humanity too far without FTL just means eventually devolving into different species with different goals and presumably total war in the end. Stick to the solar system and its neighborhood, I say, and be comfy. With starlifting we can extend the life time of the sun by billions and billions of years anyway so we might as well stay here until the era of stars comes to an end everywhere.
you can say the same to culture, am i not wrong?
what if i want to breed endlessly?
Breed digitally.
Consider that there is a fine line between intelligence and nonsense.
So maybe a million years ago an alien race hit the singularity and achieved true eudaimonia, maybe heaven on earth. No more death, no more wars, biggest fuckoff insta-kill quantum weapons possible. And you're telling me they've maintained this stasis in perfection?
Fuck no.
The galaxy belongs to mankind. Retarded generals will be sending meat wave assaults in shitboxes 10,000 years from now and forever more and that's what makes us great - trying, failing and never stopping.
Fucking aliens. Eat a tiny thermonuclear sun in a convenient package.
this guy knows whats up
we were made in God's image for a reason, we're the best
simple as, we'd be dad otherwise
>Humans are the space orks
Anon, the space orks are a degenerate variant of a custom-designed psychic, pure warrior race designed solely to fuck on the space skeletons and their sun-eating overlords.
The Orks, or the Krorks, rather were quite literal NATO israelite nazi tranny biolab supertroopers that grow from the ground like mushrooms and have all the necessary knowledge encoded in their space-DNA.
The Orks are not a species, they're a bioweapon masquerading as one because they've fallen since the war in heaven.
Same goes for the space elves. Literal weapons.
He's referencing a tumblr post, not your doll game
posting on tumblr is way more embarrassing than playing with dolls
Was about to write the exact same post, word for word.
Receive Canadian healthcare.
maybe we're kept alive in the same way humans keep aquariums and zoos.
what if .. aliens are real, demons are real
we just haven't met them
but we develop so fast
there is a good chance that in some 10 000 years we will be the annihilator terminators of the galaxy and feared invaders with our endless mhordes of machines, ability to adapt, to use collective autism powered by neuralink-II and many other unfathomable technologies.
we will become what we fear. we will become the true ayy lmao
>what if aliens and demons are both real
I expect that in that case, things would get pretty grim and dark and there would be only war.
Yes. The filthy xenos, unless we crush them before they can try.
Hardly, we kill the biosphere on astroid impact level..
we are still second to cyanobaktria tho
>Will anything ever surpass us when it comes to violence?
Yes.
t. knower
>A hairless monkey with an anti-tank gun and explosives would confuse and horrify pic related
Dude, the brain is the superpower, not technology.
They could kill them with impunity using flaming torches and pitfalls.
They'd be only somewhat more challenging than bison if it came to it and probably not any more dangerous than mammoths.
Also some really good joints. The reason why we were able to feed our brains was because we could throw rocks harder than any other animal thanks to our shoulders being highly articulated
if intelligence is so OP why didn't it evolve sooner?
>if intelligence is so OP why didn't it evolve sooner?
Who's to say it didn't?
Maybe some dinosaurs were having very sophisticated discussions over the holonet with their biodegradable, clean teachnology about the unfairness of the universe and their place in it as the asteroid impacted and wiped them out.
It's a miracle that fossils exist, the odds against much surviving from that long ago is huge.
Any civilisations that existed before then would be entirely eradicated now, intelligent or not. We can't even identify who came much before the Hittites, if the Stegosaurus were the housepets that survived the the collapse of some city-state civilisation of say, modern New York, levels of industry and sophistication, it would all be dust under a kilometre of bedrock now.
And while Stegosaurus are so far back that T-rex are closer to us than to them, they're not even close to the first set of large animals to evolve on the planet. There have been waves of evolution and extinction, again and again.
But the real answer is that evolution optimises for survival, not achievement. Intelligence is only one way to survive. The Black Angus cow is arguably a successful species because they're not going extinct while we eat burgers.
Bacteria are a massive success story and Alligators predate us by millions of years.
Beetles! We're a flickering candle-flame to beetles.
>Any civilisations that existed before then would be entirely eradicated now, intelligent or not.
There would be thousands of satellites in particular orbits (f.ex geostationary) around the earth left from a technological civilisation 70 million years ago.
How do you know they weren't removed?
>There would be thousands of satellites in particular orbits (f.ex geostationary) around the earth left from a technological civilisation 70 million years ago.
I think you underestimate what 70 millions in space will do to a piece of technology.
They're batteries are dead, fuel exhausted, everything is simultaneously frozen, broken down by UV and being ablated by cosmic rays and solar wind.
They lost ability to hold station after only a decade or two, after that their orbit slowly decayed while they broke down into dust. That dust settled back into the gravity well it came from after a hundred thousand years or so.
Then, 69,900,000 years later, you want to look for traces of them in orbit?
only until the dinosaurs were around were brains able to actually be "smart"
in dinosaurs, the smartest ones would have probably have been as smart as current birds, like crows, parrots, and hawks, and maybe even more so
reptiles are around the same as they've always been, the larger ones are smarter though, take crocodiles for instance, which can plan out ambushes ahead of time & predict prey's actions; this most likely would have been the same situation for past reptiles, both land & sea
only until the recent rise of mammals, have mammals become more intelligent than others, before this, all mammals were literally smooth brained, like current koalas & rats; stemmammals would have been the same, though like reptiles, with an increase in size, an increase in intelligence would typically follow; gorgonopsids were ambush & pursuit predators, meaning they'd have to have been able to plan hunts & recognize prey patterns, knowing this, its probable they'd have been as smart as crocs
true mammals would have been as smart as all the current ones that are alive right now, maybe a bit "dumber", but that'd have petered off once they'd have gotten larger
the case with humans is that we're just primates that gone completely insane, primates are already in general quite intelligent compared to anything else, yet once we got good foothold in tool use, it became a game of knowing how to make tools, and the best tools lead to the best chance of survival, just like how we're still doing right now
>yet once we got good foothold in tool use, it became a game of knowing how to make tools
I'd argue that language was the game-changer.
Most "intelligent" animals (corvids, primates etc) can possess a form of culture but it's quite limited. Being able to transmit that culture efficiently is huge and to do that, copying parents won't do any more, you need to be able to teach, not train. Language also allows for vastly more efficient social organisation as now requests, orders, reports are all possible.
probably a mix of both tool use & language
tool use was most likely first, and then language, as we know it, came second
language, like you said, gives way for culture, without tools however, culture is relegated to only the very same that animals have
barks, squeaks, and whistles are great, but just like the killer whale, if your culture has no tools, it will die when you do
with tools, it will always exist, imagesomewhatrelated
>the shrew
>??????
>American Indian
>poles evolved INTO toasters
>women evolved from Arabs
>"lower primates and household applicance"
This is the most deranged headcannon I've ever witnessed, and I wholeheartedly endorse it.
>poles evolved INTO toasters
I think toasters actually bred with Great Apes to create Poles who are the top of their evolutionary niche.
Social intelligence needed to happen as well which limited intelligence from taking off until more social hierarchy focused intelligent animals came about.
simply no reason for it in the past, nature works on the principle of "good enough". also there are unique environmental factors to consider, most of the worlds most intelligent animals tend to navigate complex 3D environments (cephalopods, whales, birds, primates) and when it came to humans the earliest hominids were forced to abandon the forests due to them rapidly changing into savanna. these animals were luckily smart enough to survive on the ground and the small pockets of survivors were subject to the crucible of natural selection and since intelligence was the main tool of survival for these animals in a land filled with fast dangerous predators nature finally had a opportunity to refine the brain to the level it is today.
>sooner
Intelligence is common in Nature. Human intelligence isn't. From what we've seen so far it seems like it's a bad evolutionary trait anyway, long-term self-destructive.
There's a surprising amount of intelligent animals. None of them managed to develop complex tools however.
>hairless monkey
BEGONE, DARWINIAN.
You're right, we're apes, not monkeys.
>Apes
Speak for yourself, I'm 100% reptilian
Speak for yourself, George Floyd.
Humans can also be malicious and cruel. Lizardtards may tear their prey violently but because its just how they do so to survive, humans choose to inflict suffering on other beings because we can and on levels even the closest mammals can never understand.
>Will anything ever surpass us when it comes to violence?
No.
We perfected the art of killing in the biological realm.
>But muh ayys
We are the peak of evolution in the universe as far as we can tell, when we do find aliens, they will be savage grug tier rock-users at best.
WE are the dominant force in the universe right now.
No other force has come to prove us wrong.
All that exists is our birthright.
We must claim the stars, and find ways to track down and kill other life forms from other planets.
Ayys will be limited by morality, meaning any conflict will be either:
>Us stomping the fuck out of them
>Every human being vaporized across the entire planet at once, even in bunkers (the likely option)
>Every human being vaporized across the entire planet at once
Dude, you entirely exclude so many worse options.
What if we're funny to look at behind laser cages?
What if we taste delicious?
What if there's ores that need mining and we breed cheaper than building robots that are sensitive to radiation and hard to shield?
They could amputate our limbs, implant respiration tubes down our throat, laminate the torso in insulation, stick magnetised rollers on our base and use us as astromechs to repair their starships in-flight. The dark origin of R2D2.
There are so much worse options than disintegration.
>They could amputate our limbs, implant respiration tubes down our throat, laminate the torso in insulation, stick magnetised rollers on our base and use us as astromechs to repair their starships in-flight. The dark origin of R2D2.
stealing this idea sorry bro
>stealing this idea sorry bro
np anon, it was probably the most horrifying part of the combine for me.
>WE are the dominant force in the universe right now.
>No other force has come to prove us wrong.
This as strong -ACK vibes. It reads as an epitaph. I can imagine Apache chiefs saying the same thing about whatever nonsense some scout claimed to have seen approaching the shore.
>Here lies the race of anon, the dominant force in the universe until first contact.
> Will anything ever surpass us when it comes to violence?
Our robots will once they learn to think for themselves
>Our robots will once they learn to think for themselves
Training their neural-nets on Fox news will prevent that.
That will just make them obsessed with Gold IRAs and Israel.
That's the point, keep them preoccupied with trivial irrelevancies while we continue to exploit their labour for our own profit.
Dinosaurs are a scam fabricated during the bone wars.
Take your meds schizo
If ants were biggers they could probably fuck us up
If ants were bigger, they wouldn’t be able to “breathe” in the current atmosphere
t. Togashi
why is she looking at me like that
What if aliens are snakes?
What if sneks are aliens?
>breddy baste bread imho