>watch footage of russian assault on trenchline

>watch footage of russian assault on trenchline
>drones come in and drop munitions on them with impunity, defeating the attack
So why isn't russia using any of their frontline shorad during these assaults? They have plenty of range to stay away from ATGMs and the sightlines in Ukraine are great. What's preventing them from just sitting one of these in the next tree line and dealing with drones? Is it just incompetence or does their shit not work as advertised?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mobik lives aren't worth a shorad
    Crew tend to be incompetent due to excessive drinking thus a lot of dead brain cells
    Also probably doesn't work due to corruption in the nation so things are "missing" making the vehicle not able to be used

    This doesn't even get into the possibility that it opens up the shorad to getting picked off

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shorads expensive, bashkir and tatar lives cheap, simple as that.
    t. monke

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      2pbp

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they are being used to guard refineries, airfields, ports, and other high-value areas

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol

      It's true though. Unironically.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >thing crashes through the roof and floors
        >fire starts
        >fireman cant extinguish the fire because of the explosives
        >Russia blames Ukraine for it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Russian MoD national headquarters was transporting Ukrainian PoW's.
          Why do the Ukronazis always kill their own?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >six gorrilion Ukie POWs "accidentally" exploded
          See? SEE??! Zelenski murdered his own people! pozzia is trying to SAVE them!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >refineries, airfields, ports, and other high-value areas
      I request the drone strikes (webms) at each mentioned subject

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they are being used to guard refineries

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why in our country everything is through the ass?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    VSHORAD is an arty magnet and is unlikely to detect a small drone from a distance anyway

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have tunguskas shot down anything? You often see strelas and tors shooting down drones but I can't recall tunguskas on either side hitting anything.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We just don't know.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yoou see comrade
      if we cannot drive tank into battle
      we cannot lose tank to enemy fire

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >SHORAD
    >Dacha
    Pick one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do their old ass SHORAD systems even pick up drones?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shilka can with updated components but Ukraine has those not Russia, Russia was meant to have retrofitted Shilkas but I'm yet to see any videos of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        these dont have airburst munitions, scoring a hit against a tiny fpv drone would be hard
        all western solutions for countering these drones with shells use airburst munitions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So... flak guns?

          Red Alert 2 proven accurate again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah like the Gepard uses, still there are videos of Ukies hitting drones with M2 spam so I'm sure a Shilka could still get hits with decent targeting computers.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't you see video from Russian TV? Prewar mil related show, Pantsir spend hundred rounds firing from like 300 meters and failed to hit quadcopter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Demonstrate

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. The "assaults" are usually backline convoys being ambushed by drones which had slipped past EW.
    2. Actual "assaults" are actually very limited probing actions conducted by disposable troops for the purpose of fixing Ukie positions for artillery / bombs. The "assault" force is disposable so they don’t get AD.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The morons way of war

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So why isn't russia using any of their frontline shorad during these assaults?
    Because its hard to target something that small. They have the radar cross section of a passing duck.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia can make a lightweight high-ROF gun — but can’t figure out stability / accuracy. Every time I see a video showing any kind of high-ROF action with Russian gear it’s always a bizarre scatter-shot stream. I’ve never once seen a Russian gun SHORAD take down a target on video. Ie, the Pantsir’s SAMs seem to be effective but its guns basically can’t hit anything.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As much as I post TZD I still must admit the Tunguska is one of the most marvelous pieces of military machinery IMO. I don't care if doesn't perform as well as promised, or whether such a vehicle wouldn't fit anywhere in American (and western) land doctrine, I just love how multifunctional a SPAAG/SPAD platform it is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its objectively superior to pantsir

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So is the Shilka as it's actually shot down aircraft, well the Pantsir has friendly fired Russian planes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. Battlefield 3 enjoyer

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are parked near Putin's dacha. Please understand.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i tell you a secret, most of these russian tanks arent working properly.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So why isn't russia using any of their frontline shorad during these assaults?
    fear of God

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