Wat do?

>Reinforce and launch counter offensive
>Leave the City and Retreat to better defensive positions

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Even Russian sources are saying that there are less than 3k ukies left in Bakhmut itself. The big fights are happening on the flanks as we speak

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is hilarious. Russia is gonna completely break themselves on bakhmut and it's not even the last city in donetsk oblast to capture

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >This is hilarious. Russia is gonna completely break themselves on bakhmut and it's not even the last city in donetsk oblast to capture

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the bigger force wins in attrition warfare.
          RuAF is the bigger force.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Both of those points is exactly what they are doing, pulling troops out of the city to protect the flanks whilst the rest withdraw

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why not both? Lure Russians out of fortified positions then counter-attack

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      surely they wouldnt fall for that again

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bakhmut isn't fundementaly important. However it is best to wring from Russia as high a cost as you can while minimizing casualties. Ukraine offensives will come when Ukraine is ready and when and where it is smart to attack. Don't be wasteful.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >we didn't need it anyway

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    >Thanks for the honest admission that this shilling campaign is mostly paid by Wagner.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    Its cool. Those wagner bois deserve the coffins the regular RF infantry aren't getting.
    Thank you based degenerate criminals.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    >Keep inflicting heavy casualties on moronic russians.
    >"Thank you for admitting that Ukraine is finished! Hail Wagner!"
    A lobotomy would be an improvement for you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt he could survive a second one.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Slava reddita

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Definitely not going to survive a second one.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Or maybe
    >not base your entire approach on moronic trench warfare for no good reason and waste precious manpower like that
    Even if Russia’s doing it, doesn’t mean that’s how you should be fighting them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      only a bigger moron would suggest maneuver warfare during raspubreastsa

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are either going to carry out Putin's orders or tell him his plans are stupid and hes moronic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the bigger force wins in attrition warfare.
          RuAF is the bigger force.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the bigger force wins in attrition warfare.
            only if you can trade casualties on favorable terms, 10 000 JDAM soon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine isn't suffering attrition.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yea

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the bigger force wins in attrition warfare.
            >RuAF is the bigger force.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Post eastern front of WWI.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              sure, Triple Entente's greatest victory

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Literal monkey brain. Can only repeat the horseshit youve been fed since birth

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          are you going to maneuver with riflemen only?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            moronic question

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it's either that or armor stuck in mud

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, moron. There is no place for trench warfare in any modern military doctrine under any conditions in any landscape

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >t.

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      Anonymous
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              Anonymous

              imagine the smell

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao at least the Ukrainians have record and remember their dead.

          Ruski just gets raped and blown up by himars so he's unrecognizable

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            HIMARS are used against high-value targets, not your average RuAF front-line soldier

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Unless he his sitting on a ammo dumb and doing his new year celebration. Still a lot of mobiks missing from this party

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's a lot of dead Wagner vatnigs, damn. Surprised they decided to put them in body bags and coffins. Usually they don't even collect them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Because officially Wagner casualties are NOT counted as Russian Armed Forced casualties, if 5000 gayners die that number won't be ever presented as RF loses so there's no need to hide it, unlike with regular troops loses.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah convicts shouldn’t count, Wagner is extremely based for using penal battalions if we only we were so but also we’ve done it in burgerland too our deaths are something like 130k if you include vet suicides lmao

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    reinforce.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Withdraw but leave a note calling Putin a gay.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ongoing
    >6 months, 3 weeks and 6 days

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    option 3:
    >nuke tel aviv

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    looks like they're just abolishing the joint forces

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    At this point you just abandon the city. Ukraine has already over-invested in its defense. Get more mileage out of better defensive positions further northwest.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lose over 30k soldiers to capture 500 soldiers
    do russians really?

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When Ukraine abandons they'll retreat to the actual defensive line (the idea was Bakhmut falling after like a week or two, then holding at that line; Russia got bogged down harder than any one expected LMAO)

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully the ukranians are inflicting disproportionate casualties because otherwise I cant see a reason why they kept reinforcing Bakhmut so long.

    The more resources they invested in it the more symbolic importance for losing it would have. You can say the city isnt important on an operational scale but it will give the Russia a morale boost since they can still advance even against full might of hato zionist nazis

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      assuming everything else is equal (it won't be, but ok), it's harder to retake a town than defend it. what's more, the highway is logistically useful.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I believe a lot of that has to do with how intact a city is, because every building can offer protection while attackers tend to be more exposed. As a city gets more bombed theres less advantage in defending it, things get closer to what a battle in an open field would be. At such points you must retreat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >otherwise I cant see a reason
      how are you missing the obvious: they're fricking moronic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        smarter than their big neighbour

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I cant see a reason why they kept reinforcing Bakhmut so long.
      It's as moronic as Severodonetsk or Mariupol or even Kherson

      Got a problem? Throw more white men at it

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if there is at least one old babushka refusing to leave bakmur during all this. Just stubbornly staying in a shack

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If they are using proper tactics, they will pull back to another defensive line, and get some reserves around to block any potential breakthroughs. Though they’d be wise to do a fighting withdrawal to slow them down too

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Good bait. Tourists and retads fell for it easily

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >6 months to not capture one small city

    if they maintain this pace it will literally take them 27 years and 250,000 vehicles.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >zoom in enough that the cauldroned russian front looks like an encirclement
    What is the tactical advantage of portraying your military catastrophe as an success?

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >small town meant to last for seven days while ukies prepare a second line of defense
    >seven months later it's still standing
    what happened

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This thread, and the other ones, are very organic

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We've already had these ukronazikohoikhhhholols surrounded for 5 months
    just 5 more months zister, don't stop dilating now we've almost made it

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >pour in more reinforcements into a cauldron after the Wagner PMC owner specifically told zelensky to not retreat from bakhmut that this was the main event and it would break the Ukrainian army if they retreated
    >the fricking morons actually do it and then lose Soledar, eventually get roads under fire control
    When you homosexuals learn, it’s literally only Wagner there and they’re bulked up with more men than they previously had in those Ukrainian counter offensives like you dumb fricks now know that Russia can plug the gaps so it’s only Wagner doing complex maneuvers in bakhmut, a modern hammer and anvil strategy, or at least that’s what I would’ve said if those madchads somehow began to make it for the last major line of defense in chasiv yar
    Pro Ukrainian map said ivanistan or whatever was gonna be their focus point to defend this new pocket now thah chasiv is under threat

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously did no one notice wagnerchads are outside of chasiv yar now? They can literally buttfrick both sides and yet the Ukrainian high command says they have a plan and created a pocket command
    tbh wtf

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if NATO IS actually moronic since the only good thing they did this entire war is the Kharkov Blitzkreig but that's about it and that's not even a genious move the Ruskis just happened to not have enough men to man that front, they should have mobilized pretty much since month 1

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