Was this at all practicable, or was it just an exercise in seeing how big a pistol can go?

Was this at all practicable, or was it just an exercise in seeing how big a pistol can go?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .429 DE moggs the shit out of literally all other calibers for the Deagle.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not 440 corbon
      it's a light copy

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its a target pistol, it is practical for steel target shooting. It was only initially available in .357 and .44, which were the standard for magnum revolvers and had already been in auto pistols previously with the Wildey and a couple of boutique 1911s. The Desert Eagle just put it in a gas operated package.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Practical for what?
    It's a taget/hunting pistol.
    Revolver power and accuracy (and scope mounting option) in a magazine fed pistol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Practical for what?
      Military, hunting, home defence, EDC, take your pick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's obviously not practical for EDC in an urban setting, and the round count and weight isn't ideal for military use, but sure, it's pretty good for hunting and can be for home defence too. Per usual, if you train with it, you will do what you've trained to do when the time comes to use it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >military
        A stupidly huge and heavy pistol for a group that never uses pistols. That’s going to be a no
        >hunting
        Absolutely, provided that you’re hunting large/dangerous game
        >home defense
        Would you want to be on the wrong end of a .50 AE?
        >EDC
        do you want to carry that brick all day every day?
        >Halo LARP
        Literally the best use for it and the FN 2000

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know if I would take a .50 AE out of a six inch barrel for large or dangerous game. Depending on the load, it has about the same energy as a hot .223, which is sufficient for varmint to medium sized game, all the way up to maybe large whitetail deers...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >military
            A stupidly huge and heavy pistol for a group that never uses pistols. That’s going to be a no
            >hunting
            Absolutely, provided that you’re hunting large/dangerous game
            >home defense
            Would you want to be on the wrong end of a .50 AE?
            >EDC
            do you want to carry that brick all day every day?
            >Halo LARP
            Literally the best use for it and the FN 2000

            on the other hand, as a defensive pistol and round against game like bears, it's pretty good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The "Energy is like video game HP" gay reaches his final form...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Energy is like video game damage*
              and yeah it's generally true fight me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some injun woman took a record busting bear with a .22 long rifle
                She must have maxed out her Luck stat

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                headshot crit multiplier or she stacked enough bleed debuffs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was a racial feat
                They've patched it in the new edition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, it was 22 short. She just knew exactly how to hit its weak point for massive damage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was Bella Twin.
                It was actually a 22long not even a 22lr, and it was a single shot cooey bolt action.
                It's not like she WANTED to do it, she got backed into a rock outcropping with no escape, figured the bear was going to open her up in moments, so why not take a pop at it prior to?
                Imagine her surprise and elation when it dropped on the first shot like a sack of potatoes because she had the skill to punch it clean through the thinnest part of the skull just in front of the ear.
                If I remember correctly after the first shot she said she walked up and just kept firing round after round into the side of its head until she was out of bullets, just to make sure it was actually dead.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The shot is impressive enough. The reaction to continue firing into its head till your out of ammo is even better.. don’t just walk up and look at it, make fricking sure it stays down.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                good on her

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for cartridges with similar ke you have to deffer to momentum and .50 ae has a LOT more momentum

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well you're just factually wrong on every level, and it suggests you know nothing about firearms.
                You can have a lower energy bullet produce a deeper wound, or a larger wound in any direction, due to the specifics of how it deforms, fragments, or resists those conditions, or a difference in momentum, or size of it's contact surface with the target.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those things are all nominally true but also a projectile's energy, velocity, and ballistic coefficient tell you everything you need to know about a projectile. So energy is at least part of the quintessential trinity of a given cartridge's identity.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a projectile's energy, velocity, and ballistic coefficient tell you everything you need to know about a projectile.
                Not even remotely close to being true.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So energy is at least part of the quintessential trinity of a given cartridge's identity.
                I dunno, seems to totally ignore bullet selection, as BC and energy are not intrinsic to a caliber. both can vary wildly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >seems to totally ignore bullet selection
                Ballistic coefficient, being a function of density and shape, tells you everything you need to know about the projectile itself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no it doesn't. ballistic coefficient is also a function of velocity, but you wouldn't know that since you are a fricking moron ballisticslet.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where do I enter velocity in this ballistic coefficient calculator, again?
                https://gundata.org/ballistic-coefficient-calculator/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ballistic coefficient is relative to a given velocity. Many manufacturers don't list the needed velocity to achieve their idealized G1.
                Sierra Bullets does, I think they have a write up on. Start reading.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hello, yes, this black box I don't understand is my source of knowledge
                goddamn dude.
                https://jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmbcv-5.1.cgi
                there's your homework for today. now look up the actual math to calculate BC.
                ballistic coefficient is a measured, unitless parameter that is dependent on projectile velocity because different velocity regimes can have incredible impacts on aerodynamic behaviors. now stop being a fricking moron at me and fall off mount stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmbcv-5.1.cg
                I completed my homework you illiterate mongoloid

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my link works, sucks to suck, noguns moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is a pretty big difference between "Energy is an important factor among several others" and "Energy is all you need to know, real life operates on energy Hit Points."

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon but If you're not over penetrating your target then the energy of the projectile describes 100% of the work the projectile is capable of doing on the target. Unless different calibers can break conservation of energy then talking about total kinetic energy of a round is valuable. How it delivers that energy is obviously also very important but that's why I stipulated no overpen, only makes sense if you're talking about a target that will catch the round, ie: not steel, fleshy things.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not that anon but If you're not over penetrating your target then the energy of the projectile describes 100% of the work the projectile is capable of doing on the target.
                A plastic sphere full of powdered plastic will not behave the same way as a tungsten rod when striking a target, even if you equalize energy via relative velocity and there is no over penetration. If two projectiles of equal energy, which deliver 100% of their energy to a target, have meaningfully different effects, the fundamental premise I am arguing against is wrong, which it patently is.
                Energy can be delivered in a variety of ways, with a variety of levels of efficiency in disrupting a target's functions per energy spent.

                Welcome to Ballistic physics 101.

                >Unless different calibers can break conservation of energy then talking about total kinetic energy of a round is valuable
                Oh well thank Christ we're talking about whether "Energy is the only thing that matters period" not "energy is valuable to talk about" or else you might have a point. I said several times that energy was part of a larger calculation of effects.

                >I stipulated no overpen
                You also cannot go back and edit the original conversation to better suit your point. It doesn't matter if you're that anon or not, we're arguing a specific point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At no point did I say you were wrong. I'm just adding to the conversation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Assuming everything else is equal, yes you’d be right. But seldom is everything equal. Some boundary cases to prove my point:

                A heavy bowling ball at 20fps might break a bone or two, even though it has about the same energy as a 22lr.

                Your face can withstand multiple successive punches that might have the cumulative kinetic energy of a bullet that your face most definitely can not withstand

                The way broadheads wound. Broadheads fired from a crossbow have <100ft*lbs energy, but their wounding is on par with far more energetic rifle cartridges. They have really high sectional momentum and wound by cutting large amounts of tissue.

                Also, it is possible for tissue to absorb the energy from a projectile, contort and stretch, and then bounce back to its normal form without much damage,

                So the short version is energy isn’t everything.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you've beat this strawman to death, man
                nobody here has said that energy is the only thing that matters. nobody at all. the guy who started this said that it's generally true that energy is like video game hp damage. I hope you didn't take that literally because it should be obvious that he didn't either

                this is a much more interesting subject to discuss when we aren't all talking circles around each other

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody here has said that energy is the only thing that matters. nobody at all. the guy who started this said that it's generally true that energy is like video game hp damage. I hope you didn't take that literally because it should be obvious that he didn't either
                First moron, you're talking to a new poster, not me, the person you think you're responding to. As what the original moron claiming energy was all that matters was massively moronic, it's totally natural it should attract more and more detractors as the thread goes on.
                second, you're a gay for trying to rewrite what happened.
                The original post directly compared .223 and 50AE, and said 50AE was unfit for a purpose because .223 was, and they had the same energy.
                This was laughed at by several posters as moronic. My first post accused him of video game logic, i.e. "energy = HP"
                His next post was "YES, ENERGY = HP I AM A moron"
                After he was fricking buried for that comment, you butt in apparently, as if your commentary on things we never said and he never said was relevant to the argument, then retreating behind "I never disagreed with you!!!" when pressed. I let it go because you stopped, but now you're tilting at windmills and trying to pretend what happened didn't happen.

                It's not a strawman fallacy when the actual fricking strawman really did go on the record and loudly state his beliefs, reiterating them when dared to repeat them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                300 AAC Blackout would like a word with you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA. These aren’t cherry picked? It’s not 5.56 at 2 yards vs 7.62 at 200 yards?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reading comprehension
                and 7.62x39 is not a long range cartridge, comparing them at a distance would only make 5.56 look better

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reading comprehension

                Kek I should’ve read. I’ve seen the slide before, and read the text, but forgot about it entirely.

                That would be my point though. If someone were trying to make 5.56 look massively superior to 7.62, they’d showcase pics of close up 5.56 wounds vs far away 7.62 wounds. Whatever, moot point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's well known that 5.56 'spends' its energy quickly after entry almost like a hollow-point meanwhile 7.62x39 is still carrying a large % of it even after it exits a body. The more energy a hitbox receives the more damage it takes, energy = damage.

                Vidya theory claims another decisive victory.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dumbest post ITT

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fricking moron, .45 acp drops hogs and deer like nothing at less than 50 yards, huge ass hole makes a huge ass wound cavity that bleeds out fast

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >for a group that never uses pistols
          moron.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA. Do they use pistols though? And if so, is it still better to have and use a pistol, or carry an extra ~3 rifle mags for the same weight

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >an extra ~3 rifle mags
              A loaded DE weighs almost exactly the same as 6 loaded 5.56 PMAGs. You would have to be a chromosome hoarder to even consider it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said I’m not that anon, I am not advocating for issuing 50AE handguns to anyone. I’m talking about like a normal p320 +2 or so spare mags

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Issued more than you might think (Cohen gotta get them shekels) but you'd have to look very hard to find one fired in anger.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s what I thought. I figured it’s either beurocratic frickery or carrying on tradition or something like that. 300rd combat load sounds way better than 210 + a pistol you’ll never use that is useless beyond a couple dozen yards

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have never personally seen a pistol fired in anger while I was in. I only heard stories of some people using their M9s when the GWOT was at its peak. Few enough to say they never get used without being too far off of the mark

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >for a group that never uses pistols
              moron.

              Wait, were you somehow under the impression that I was saying a Desert Eagle would be practical for the military? Or even not a stupid decision? Because no, that would be moronic. If somebody needs a big frick you pistol, the MK23 and FNX tactical already exist, both of which can be rechambered for .460 Rowland if you REALLY need muh stopping power. They might not even need a piston to function suppressed in .460

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >halo larp
          wdhmbt
          it has no resemblance at all to the halo magnum other than big boolet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Throw some weird looking hood on the top rail, cut off the trigger guard and weld a new one on and it looks really close

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      POWER OF AN M16
      ACCURACY OF A SNIPER RIFLE

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >or was it just an exercise in seeing how big a pistol can go?
    it was an exercise in how butt ugly a pistol can be. .44mag revolvers and of course the auto mag are fundamentally better even though the auto mag needs more polish.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The auto mag is the 3/10 girl you settle for when the lights come on and all your friends are taking home the 6.5/10 basics to plow.

      You never admit you did it, you put a boot over her head and frick for kicks, and you kick her ass to the curb before the sun is up and burn your sheets.

      .50 deagle is the 6 foot, hourglass chick in the corner that likes being loud, getting rough, and only texts when you text her.

      >Frickin .44 auto mag.
      Aesthetic puke for boomer Eastwood larpers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Desert Eagle is Abby Shapiro, the gun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >.50 deagle is the 6 foot, hourglass chick in the corner that likes being loud, getting rough, and only texts when you text her.

        The Desert Eagle is Abby Shapiro, the gun.

        >The Desert Eagle is Abby Shapiro, the gun.
        both true.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you shorten the case and powder to charge and increase bullet weight to 350 grains standard, and make it so it reaches 1000fps in a 5 inch conventional rifling barrel and 1000fps in a polygonal barrel, make a gun in the same proportions as the G19 carrying this new ammo with 10 rounds, then i would gladly buy it up over 45acp.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean shorten the case but keep OAL the same? Or just shrunk the whole thing? If you’re talking about the whole thing, something like that already exists and it’s pretty meh. It’s called 50 GI. OAL is that of 45 ACP iirc

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure he's saying keep the OAL.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dream pistol is a Deagle chambered in .357 Magnum

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's a perfect expression of shooting joy. I adore mine.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Autoloading magnum pistols are stupid entirely due to COAL restrictions to ensure they feed.
    Leaving performance on the table.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Making an autoloader that uses magnum revolver cartridges was a trend among niche gun designers in the 70s and early 80s. The Desert Eagle proved to be the most reliable out of them while accepting off-the-shelf .357 Magnum rounds, and so it stayed while the others faded away.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys think a normal sized pistol can be made in 50 AE? Its OAL is about the same as that of 5.7x28, and is narrower than 5.7 double stacked. It would be pretty cool to have a super powerful magnum pistol like that. Totally impractical novelty, but cool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dimension of the cartridge isn't the (only) problem. How do you think you should build a "normal sized" reliable autoloader that can handle a magnum cartridge without disintegrating? They're going to have to get bulkier just to have enough mass to handle the force the cartridge is putting out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bolt thrust is pretty high, yeah. So maybe don’t use short recoil. Or if you do, have the slide cycle a longer distance against stronger springs. It will be hard but not impossible to rack, and that’s fine because the gun is a toy, like the deagle, only cooler

        The slide and barrel and gonna be heabier anyways, so that will slow down the cycle some.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >only cooler
          gas operated handgun > recoil operated handgun

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’ll admit a rotating bolt in a pistol is kinda cool, but recoil operated with a slimmer slide and a grip that is actually made for human hands is something that appeals more to me. Like it punches above its weight. Plus the gun can be made much much lighter, esp if using a polymer frame.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              have you ever shot a desert eagle? the big grip is no big deal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hugh Gabbet-Fairfax will be vindicated yet.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't the Deagle in .50AE developed for road checkpoint guards to shoot and disable car engines? Or is that just fuddlore?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's pure fuddlore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably fuddlore. The 50AE has pretty diminutive sectional energy. I don’t see it disabling an engine

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’ll flip the same 12in steel plate on chains until it’s wrapped around the pole it’s mounted on with a single shot that a .308 or .270 will just make twitch hitting in the same spot, so there is something to be said for mass transfer over penetration with that bullet diameter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a function of the much heavier bullet's ability to conserve momentum.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s a function of total momentum transfer. Disabling an engine requires penetration, and that requires sectional energy (or sectional momentum, I forget). But the key here is the concentration of it, not the total amount

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Total momentum transfer vs sectional energy. I guess somewhere in the middle of the two is where we find a bullet's "power." If one bullet rocks a plate around the stand but merely dents it, but another punches through the plate without moving it very far, which is stronger?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how big can it go senpai?

    I can go as big as you want ... dios mio si si señorita pucita

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was this at all practicable
    My local indoor has one which you can rent. I dutifully did so. Its extremely practical if the practical purpose is to be insanely fun to shoot. I was grinning like a mongoloid who had just seen porn for the first time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At battlefield Vegas, I passed up a chance to shoot the deagle and p90.. my friends shot it though. Kinda wish I shot it now.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >deagle
    >made in Japan
    huh?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      airshit most likely

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stock photo

      airshit most likely

      I know, I profoundly regretted it the instant I posted

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shame, I was hoping they were making guns again. They do know we're not gonna nuke them again as long as they're not doing that shit to us, right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they manufacture plenty of weapons

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does Tokyo Marui have to do with anything /k/?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The .357 version is actually a very practical open carry for bear country.

    -10 rounds of .357 on tap

    -in a quick detachable box mag

    -Heavy + gas system means VERY LOW recoil .357 shooting.

    -classic models have good irons and can mount scopes, modern ones can attach dots.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      normally I'm very pro .357 and I hate on 10mm for innawoods gays but a 357 deagle is legitimately the worst of both worlds. horrible recommendation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s actually the best .357 mag and best Desert Eagle caliber, you’re wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct. Only thing better would be some wildcat setup like a high capacity .45 like an FNX upgraded to .460 rowland

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't it supposed to be a breaching gun, something to blast out locks with but you don't have to carry a shotgun?
    Also, it's Israeli. Of course it's not practical, it doesn't have a tactical diaper.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its only practical option is as a fancy hunting pistol

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoy mine.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    REASON UNNEEDED

    IT'S COOL

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tell me this isn't PURE SEX.
    Although a blued version would be HIGH GRADE PURE SEX

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do Alaskans ever use Desert Eagles?

    From what I have seen they favor large caliber revolvers, 10mm glocks and maybe a few other pistols like that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/specSheets/5301.html

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A desert eagle for HD replaces your shotgun with something easier to maneuver with.
    What, you think you're doing rapid fire follow up shots with a shotgun? Nope. Same use case.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno but mine is a lot of fun and that's good enough for me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >having fun with a gun
      Reee every gun you purchase needs to be extremely practical!

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dreamt that I had a micro eagle in .25acp. It would be a fun gun in either .25 or .32.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God I wish they made 50AE slides without the rails

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish they made the rails standard picatinny.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like they use picatinny rails to me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like they use picatinny rails to me.

        Newer barrels use pickle tickle rails. The state compliance ones like the ones sold in CA still use the older weaver mounts.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not practical. But damn they're fun. An interesting side effect of owning one is every other handgun feels lightweight by comparison.

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