Was He Based or Overrated?

General H. Norman Schwarzkopf Jr. is generally well regarded for his management of coalition forces during the Gulf War against Ba’athist Iraq combined with his (mostly) transparent and to-the-point treatment of the media. He not only led Operation Desert Storm to success, but restored public perception of the U.S. Military after the fiasco of the Vietnam War. However, he was also well known for having an extremely short temper, would regularly verbally abuse his subordinates, and was perceived as a prima donna. This is detrimental to a healthy command and staff, but one can argue that the aggression and decisiveness of Schwarzkopf was needed in a time where higher command had become slow and inept.

Does Stormin’ Norman deserve full credit for victory in the Gulf War? Was Desert Storm a success in spite of his leadership? Did the poor management and public perception of OIF and Afghanistan elevate him even further in the eyes of history? Do we need more generals like him or was he a prototype of bad things to come?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last good general we’ve had. Every “officer” today is an MBA graduate with a lean six sigma certa and that doesn’t win wars.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every commissioned officer has an engineering degree.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish. These numales are all black belts in DEI.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not true. I know of one with a mathematics degree.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is only true of officers that graduate from a military university.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought the meta for servicemembers was military history or business. I've heard "International relations" too for staff officers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not true either.
          t. Annapolis grad

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my financial fiduciary was an Infantry Captain on his staff during Desert Storm and Shield. Said there was no finer officer that wore stars since. If he asked questions and found your answers lacking, it was a bad day.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having a short temper and utilizing verbal abuse is necessary when your entire chain of command is comprised of incompetent morons.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was a capable commander and decent person. Not as disconnected from reality as most other generals and avoided being a political animal like Powell. He definitely enjoyed the spotlight, but I got more Patton-like vibes than a MacArthur diva complex. As far as his aggression, there are many ways to win a battle and subordinates clashing with commanders when they have different ideas has been a constant since time immemorial. However, it seems to me that he may have been rougher to his direct reports than strictly necessary.

    I found his book worth the read.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Great answer, thank you. I neglected to mention Powell but I do wonder how Schwarzkopf would’ve faired in the military-political sphere around post-9/11 actions compared to him.

      >Argue My False Dichotomy
      frick your own face or I'll frick it for you

      Kek

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Argue My False Dichotomy
    frick your own face or I'll frick it for you

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good general, but too fat.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    obviously he did a good job.
    that said, the iraqis were fricked no matter who they put in charge.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was very based and no South Vietnamese paratrooper he trained and lead ever complained about him.

    There's a lot of morons and frick ups in the military and its the job of a leader to straighten them out. He had a lot of experience with this in the Americal Division when he showed up late in the war and it was full of junkies, frick ups and psychotics and he managed to get them to reform and get out of the war alive.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dude he's a legend

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does Stormin’ Norman deserve full credit for victory in the Gulf War?
    Yes. Because he made most important thing of the strategy. He properly estimated amount of forces needed for decisive win and had will to persuade politics to assemble such force.
    He kinds overestimated Iraqis but it's better to overestimate your enemy and bring larger force than underestimate and lose. See Russian Gerasimov's General Staff fiasco of planning invasion into Ukraine.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does Stormin’ Norman deserve full credit for victory in the Gulf War? Was Desert Storm a success in spite of his leadership? Did the poor management and public perception of OIF and Afghanistan elevate him even further in the eyes of history? Do we need more generals like him or was he a prototype of bad things to come?

    This homie expecting essays by end of class tomorrow

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