No. Any US citizen can have access to it, but you can't give it to a foreign citizen, this is the same thing that got the DCS employee vanned for technically giving the F-16C manual to the Russians, even though the F-16C manual is online
Information on the gun mantlet, because the crewman was seething the representation in War Thunder was too weak (30mm plate). Tbh I don't fricking understand him because the leaked document showed that War Thunder wasn't that far off. It wouldn't shrug a tank fired sabot round for sure.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Armor autists in WT are so funny to me, they literally fight for 10mm more on an UFP as if it will make a difference vs a 800mm pen round or CAS
1 year ago
Anonymous
That always makes me laugh when it comes to all of the "discussions" online about modern armor and such. If your opponent has modern ATGM or anti armor shells to be fired from a tank the amount of armor you have really doesnt mean a whole hell of a lot. Armor is losing the battle against anti armor and has been for a long time. You are at best going to be able to deflect a shot or two from a wide angle or maybe MAYBE have reactive armor good enough to stop a missile or two. In practically every scenario with a direct hit with any modern anti tank weapon basically all modern tanks are out of commission with a single shot one way or another. The only question is how and if the thing is designed in a way that throws the turret or not.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Uh huh. Cool story, bro. Meanwhile western MBTs eat ATGMs to the front like a fat kid in a candy store and just keep on rolling.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Didn't it show that it was actually less than WT had?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The finniest thing was this guy just scribbled fake shit on top of the actual materials in order to convince Gaijin to buff his fav tank.
Classified is restricted content with VERY strict rules regarding its storage viewing and access. Not for public release is literally just "please dont print out copies to every butthole that wants to see it."
If you leave a "not for public release" document you took home on your desk and the neighbors kid ran off with it you shrug and continue on as normal. If you do that with classified documents you get fricking locked up and INTERROGATED.
yup but the ramifications aren't international levels of frick up where we have russians and chinese learning new info to counter our weapons, they already know this shit if they wanted it, but being a dumb frick and being the one to leak it is gonna get you fired simply for leaking documents because of breach of trust.
War thunder is meant to be addictive and played on a constant basis.
War thunder players likens themselves to be superior to similar MMOs and other games because their game is less arcadey and more “realistic” than others.
When some tank or plane enthusiast has a vehicle added to their religion (game) they’re overfilled with joy but soon fall into despair when it doesn’t preform to their liking. If the devs get something wrong or don’t add something to said favorite vehicles, players will go to their forums and post all sorts of info to “correct” any wrongs, including classified and secret documents.
These idiots fail to realize that Gaijin doesn’t give a flying frick about realism as they add, remove, and tweak vehicles to their liking so you will have to grind and be more persuaded to purchase premium content. If your favorite tank or plane’s stats don’t align with reality or it gets dumped on by vehicles that far less capable, it’s less to do so with ignorance and more so to do with game balance and balancing the company’s budget (and Russian bias).
Example: M1A2 reload time at max crew level wont even get you a qual for a loader position in the actual tank in real life. If you load as slow as they do in the game, you will fail out of school.
When given irrefutable, and public source, proof of this, gajin just shrugged and said they have it low due to balance issues. This is after they fought every single source the entire way. Even though every other tank reloads faster along with other better stats.
Fun fact, M1 abrams line is literally the weakest top tier line out of the big nations, due to not even having a gimmick like other nations to lean into (reload for japan, APS for brits, armor for germans, etc). Its just terrible.
>Fun fact, M1 abrams line is literally the weakest top tier line out of the big nations, due to not even having a gimmick like other nations to lean into (reload for japan, APS for brits, armor for germans, etc). Its just terrible.
You're moronic, I think this is your gimmick.
>Fun fact, M1 abrams line is literally the weakest top tier line out of the big nations, due to not even having a gimmick like other nations to lean into (reload for japan, APS for brits, armor for germans, etc). Its just terrible.
You're moronic, I think this is your gimmick.
while saying it's the worst is overkill, the fact remains that Russia's tank tree should, in reality, peak at about 8.6 BR, and anything that puts it even close to equal to post-1990s western designs is pure fantasy bullshit
Isn’t the F-16 basically a relict and flown even by second/third world countries. So unless it’s about the most recent upgrades it’s basically known to anybody anyway?
It's the fact that Gaijin implemented pic related after the Chally 2 leak
Funny thing is I hopped on the forum and now the guy who "leaked" is shit flinging the other dude who "exposed" him trying to get an AIM-7F bug report person #2 submitted, removed for the same reason,
Fricking lmao
Best part of the jokes is that people are getting in trouble for posting stuff already known to anybody searching for it. While China is buying companies involved in producing important defense industry components wholesale.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-35-made-china-we-explain-70981
>single magnet is put in the F-35, after a contractor buys the component from them >DoD declares it to be a literal non-issue
remember that all /misc/acks are demoralized homosexuals
You get what a bare circuit board is? It’s not just some random device it has a specific architecture. And based on the architecture you are most probably able get some idea about the software running on it or at least the types of software.
The guy is just annoyed at all the schizos infesting the board so id cut him a bit of slack though. Its still a concern but its not nearly as huge of a deal as people would think it to be. After all wait till you learn where all the parts that populate a circuit board are made. China has entrenched itself so deep as THE major supplier for many basic goods that its not possible to produce anything with more than 3 parts without using something from China. Mostly because the vast majority of refining and manufacturing jobs were shipped off decades ago because a chinese 12 year old works for pennies an hour.
I‘m quite sure you are confusing it with this https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/09/07/pentagon-suspends-f-35-deliveries-over-chinese-alloy-in-magnet/
PamperChu isn't even this autistic and he microwaves diapers
Not classified info, just not for public release.
Pretty much any F-16 manual you find on the net is like this.
Is...is that not the same thing
No. Any US citizen can have access to it, but you can't give it to a foreign citizen, this is the same thing that got the DCS employee vanned for technically giving the F-16C manual to the Russians, even though the F-16C manual is online
This is basically a nothing burger vs the Challenger 2 leak, which was an active crewman leaking a UK RESTRICTED manual
What was in the chally leak?
Information on the gun mantlet, because the crewman was seething the representation in War Thunder was too weak (30mm plate). Tbh I don't fricking understand him because the leaked document showed that War Thunder wasn't that far off. It wouldn't shrug a tank fired sabot round for sure.
Armor autists in WT are so funny to me, they literally fight for 10mm more on an UFP as if it will make a difference vs a 800mm pen round or CAS
That always makes me laugh when it comes to all of the "discussions" online about modern armor and such. If your opponent has modern ATGM or anti armor shells to be fired from a tank the amount of armor you have really doesnt mean a whole hell of a lot. Armor is losing the battle against anti armor and has been for a long time. You are at best going to be able to deflect a shot or two from a wide angle or maybe MAYBE have reactive armor good enough to stop a missile or two. In practically every scenario with a direct hit with any modern anti tank weapon basically all modern tanks are out of commission with a single shot one way or another. The only question is how and if the thing is designed in a way that throws the turret or not.
Uh huh. Cool story, bro. Meanwhile western MBTs eat ATGMs to the front like a fat kid in a candy store and just keep on rolling.
Didn't it show that it was actually less than WT had?
The finniest thing was this guy just scribbled fake shit on top of the actual materials in order to convince Gaijin to buff his fav tank.
Classified is restricted content with VERY strict rules regarding its storage viewing and access. Not for public release is literally just "please dont print out copies to every butthole that wants to see it."
If you leave a "not for public release" document you took home on your desk and the neighbors kid ran off with it you shrug and continue on as normal. If you do that with classified documents you get fricking locked up and INTERROGATED.
So can I still get in trouble or no
If its classified you might end up in prison. If its not for general release you might get chewed out and/or fired.
Ah
Still a frick up
yup but the ramifications aren't international levels of frick up where we have russians and chinese learning new info to counter our weapons, they already know this shit if they wanted it, but being a dumb frick and being the one to leak it is gonna get you fired simply for leaking documents because of breach of trust.
Why is it allways warthunder?
Because war thunder fans are moronic
War thunder is meant to be addictive and played on a constant basis.
War thunder players likens themselves to be superior to similar MMOs and other games because their game is less arcadey and more “realistic” than others.
When some tank or plane enthusiast has a vehicle added to their religion (game) they’re overfilled with joy but soon fall into despair when it doesn’t preform to their liking. If the devs get something wrong or don’t add something to said favorite vehicles, players will go to their forums and post all sorts of info to “correct” any wrongs, including classified and secret documents.
These idiots fail to realize that Gaijin doesn’t give a flying frick about realism as they add, remove, and tweak vehicles to their liking so you will have to grind and be more persuaded to purchase premium content. If your favorite tank or plane’s stats don’t align with reality or it gets dumped on by vehicles that far less capable, it’s less to do so with ignorance and more so to do with game balance and balancing the company’s budget (and Russian bias).
Thats actually a well written answer. I didnt expect that here on /k/, but thx I guess
This.
Example: M1A2 reload time at max crew level wont even get you a qual for a loader position in the actual tank in real life. If you load as slow as they do in the game, you will fail out of school.
When given irrefutable, and public source, proof of this, gajin just shrugged and said they have it low due to balance issues. This is after they fought every single source the entire way. Even though every other tank reloads faster along with other better stats.
Fun fact, M1 abrams line is literally the weakest top tier line out of the big nations, due to not even having a gimmick like other nations to lean into (reload for japan, APS for brits, armor for germans, etc). Its just terrible.
Qualification for a reload on Abrams is 7 seconds, ingame the load speed is 6s for the 120mm and 5s for the 105mm variants
>Fun fact, M1 abrams line is literally the weakest top tier line out of the big nations, due to not even having a gimmick like other nations to lean into (reload for japan, APS for brits, armor for germans, etc). Its just terrible.
You're moronic, I think this is your gimmick.
while saying it's the worst is overkill, the fact remains that Russia's tank tree should, in reality, peak at about 8.6 BR, and anything that puts it even close to equal to post-1990s western designs is pure fantasy bullshit
i swear to god WT players are like actual crack addicts. at least you can have fun with crack
Isn’t the F-16 basically a relict and flown even by second/third world countries. So unless it’s about the most recent upgrades it’s basically known to anybody anyway?
It's the fact that Gaijin implemented pic related after the Chally 2 leak
Funny thing is I hopped on the forum and now the guy who "leaked" is shit flinging the other dude who "exposed" him trying to get an AIM-7F bug report person #2 submitted, removed for the same reason,
Fricking lmao
Best part of the jokes is that people are getting in trouble for posting stuff already known to anybody searching for it. While China is buying companies involved in producing important defense industry components wholesale.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-35-made-china-we-explain-70981
This is what happens when you export all of your industry to take advantage of all the cheap slave labor they have.
>single magnet is put in the F-35, after a contractor buys the component from them
>DoD declares it to be a literal non-issue
remember that all /misc/acks are demoralized homosexuals
You get what a bare circuit board is? It’s not just some random device it has a specific architecture. And based on the architecture you are most probably able get some idea about the software running on it or at least the types of software.
The guy is just annoyed at all the schizos infesting the board so id cut him a bit of slack though. Its still a concern but its not nearly as huge of a deal as people would think it to be. After all wait till you learn where all the parts that populate a circuit board are made. China has entrenched itself so deep as THE major supplier for many basic goods that its not possible to produce anything with more than 3 parts without using something from China. Mostly because the vast majority of refining and manufacturing jobs were shipped off decades ago because a chinese 12 year old works for pennies an hour.
The part wasn't a circuit board, it wasn't even the magnet, it was the material the magnet was made from.
I would like your source for this claim. Otherwise I simply don’t believe it.
I‘m quite sure you are confusing it with this https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/09/07/pentagon-suspends-f-35-deliveries-over-chinese-alloy-in-magnet/
I like "leaked" documents like these. Realistic vehicle combat is cool.
Its "realistic" in the sense that its not bugs bunny physics. Its still not anywhere near reality.
Kek the best intelligence gathering hub and it didn't even try.
Top Tier was a mistake.
Every time I try this game I get bored of the slow ass progression and just go back to dcs lol
Even that I don't play Warthunder, its community is just extremely based lmao.