If you want a medium machine gun that weighs only a little more than last-generation LMGs, then sure. The LWMMG is amazing if you want a portable high-caliber MG with similar ballistics to .50 BMG but half the weight.
Almost absurd considering how cheap .50 BMG is in comparison. > FY 2023 Base procurement dollars in the amount of $29.792 million supports the procurement of 9.187 million M33 .50 Caliber Ball Cartridges linked with M17 Tracer Cartridges
About $3.25/rd
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Almost absurd considering how cheap .50 BMG is in comparison. > FY 2023 Base procurement dollars in the amount of $29.792 million supports the procurement of 9.187 million M33 .50 Caliber Ball Cartridges linked with M17 Tracer Cartridges
About $3.25/rd
What exactly is the XM1162 though?
From what I can find, it is considered an armor-piercing round, but is it using a tungsten or a depleted uranium penetrator (in which case, $12/rd is cheap), or is it using a hardened steel ($12/rd is expensive for this) bullet or some other hardened alloy that is cheaper than tungsten/DU but more expensive than traditional hardened steel.
If its armor-piercing characteristics are good enough, $12/rd isn't actually a bad deal at all. You can't directly compare it to .50BMG ball or .300NM ball as they're not armor-piercing rounds.
>You can't directly compare it to .50BMG ball or .300NM ball as they're not armor-piercing rounds.
okay, put on your armor, we're shooting it with the .50 cal
>pull the trigger?
Last I checked, post-86 full auto is for very specific .mil or LE use (LMAO imagine SWAT with an LMG). Unless you are outside the USA, or you have a plan to convert a preban LMG to .338. Though I guess if you can afford the LMG, you can afford the ammo and the conversion.
If you have the money you just start your own company that develops machine guns (just submit a design for military trials every decade or two and no one will care)
Then you just play with your machine guns that are owned by your company and you use them as an employee doing "tests". That way you don't have to own it personally or have it be pre-86.
>post ban dealer sample
It used to be waaaay easier to get that SOT. Now, the ATF are asking lots of questions like: are you actually doing business eith the feds? Sucks for innovation because it's soft-locking out new competitors.
> ATF are asking lots of questions like: are you actually doing business with the feds?
Yeah, that's why I said you actually have to design SOMETHING and submit it for government/military trials occasionally.
for firing, yes, otherwise no. I haven’t fired it but it seems to work very similarly to all other firearms in this regard
If you want a medium machine gun that weighs only a little more than last-generation LMGs, then sure. The LWMMG is amazing if you want a portable high-caliber MG with similar ballistics to .50 BMG but half the weight.
is it feasible to shoulder fire it with ADS considering its approximately 20lbs?
for an emergency, yeah.
Wouldn't ever do it if it could be avoided though.
>Full auto MG that costs over $5/rd
I'd rather get random 10 woman pregnant and deal with the child support than shoot that thing.
>I would rather have sex than shoot a gun
Get off /k/.
If I'm going to actively make myself poor, I'd rather get a few nuts off while doing so.
nuts are temporary, guns are eternal.
the more kids you have the more likely one of them makes it big and you can show back up in their life and mooch off them
what if they just cut you off entirely?
Shoot them
>he doesn't jerk it while shooting
ngmi
> costs over $5/rd
costs over $12/rd
311,000 rounds for $3,818,000.
Works out to a little over $12.25 per round.
I'm in the military, and I still think it's atrocious that we give this thing the okay.
> ITT Anons do not understand economy of scale
Only slightly worse for FY23
355,000 rounds for $4,400,000, or $12.39/rd
Almost absurd considering how cheap .50 BMG is in comparison.
> FY 2023 Base procurement dollars in the amount of $29.792 million supports the procurement of 9.187 million M33 .50 Caliber Ball Cartridges linked with M17 Tracer Cartridges
About $3.25/rd
What exactly is the XM1162 though?
From what I can find, it is considered an armor-piercing round, but is it using a tungsten or a depleted uranium penetrator (in which case, $12/rd is cheap), or is it using a hardened steel ($12/rd is expensive for this) bullet or some other hardened alloy that is cheaper than tungsten/DU but more expensive than traditional hardened steel.
If its armor-piercing characteristics are good enough, $12/rd isn't actually a bad deal at all. You can't directly compare it to .50BMG ball or .300NM ball as they're not armor-piercing rounds.
>You can't directly compare it to .50BMG ball or .300NM ball as they're not armor-piercing rounds.
okay, put on your armor, we're shooting it with the .50 cal
>what is XM1162?
Your Google-fu is weak. Here is a link to a draft version of the spec.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%2520Government/ID226450489740447228103305659878793953689/65%2520Creedmoor%2520PSPECS.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjT07CSmtf8AhXREFkFHQRHBvUQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw1m8qVKr7ktbBGl_5M-ShHX
Everything in that document after the title that says .338nm is about 6.5CM
>pull the trigger?
Last I checked, post-86 full auto is for very specific .mil or LE use (LMAO imagine SWAT with an LMG). Unless you are outside the USA, or you have a plan to convert a preban LMG to .338. Though I guess if you can afford the LMG, you can afford the ammo and the conversion.
If you have the money you just start your own company that develops machine guns (just submit a design for military trials every decade or two and no one will care)
Then you just play with your machine guns that are owned by your company and you use them as an employee doing "tests". That way you don't have to own it personally or have it be pre-86.
>post ban dealer sample
It used to be waaaay easier to get that SOT. Now, the ATF are asking lots of questions like: are you actually doing business eith the feds? Sucks for innovation because it's soft-locking out new competitors.
> ATF are asking lots of questions like: are you actually doing business with the feds?
Yeah, that's why I said you actually have to design SOMETHING and submit it for government/military trials occasionally.