my point was that laughing at ANY weapon capable of shooting bullets is moronic.
a mosin, an sks AND an m14 can kill you easily; yet oinkers are silent about the m14 and would create endless threads of ruskies used SKS's.
1 year ago
Anonymous
two of those designs are seriously obsolete and hilariously obsolete, and it isn't the M14. There's also the issue of the russian army, the second army in the world, not having enough AK74s to equip their proxies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The mosin isn't obsolete to Russians. It's often used for things like beating their wives and armed robbery.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm going to need some tinfoil for this one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
tinfoil for what? russians used old ww1 machine guns and oinkies laughed; until oinkies were caught using the same machine guns and nobody said a thing
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the second army of the world cries when they're held to their own standards
1 year ago
Anonymous
So, you admit the Russian military is on par with the Ukranian army?
you guys pretending, or just moronic?
it's the militias who are using ancient weapons and basically anything that is capable of shooting, not the Russian army
1 year ago
Anonymous
So, you admit the Russian military is on par with the Ukranian army?
1 year ago
Anonymous
yes the second army of the world is a match for the entire combined efforts of the West.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Some stuff Nato found in the shed >The entire combined efforts
Oh, sweet little copelet
1 year ago
Anonymous
>entire combined efforts of the West
This is the funniest shit I've read all year. America has to be careful about how quickly it gives Ukraine its outdated Cold War-era equipment because if they give stuff as recent as 1990s tech Russia might see that as "overt escalation" and rattle their nuclear saber a little too loud.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wait I thought Patriots were newe- oh lol I've never laughed so hard at being wrong.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Tbf they have changed a loooot in that time
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's not about the age of the delivery system but the payload itself. That applies to pretty much every vehicle nowadays that wasn't made in the past 20 years.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>NATO hasn’t given Ukraine any modern air assets >just recently given tanks and IFV’s in small numbers >US refuse to give Ukraine more advanced and longer ranged munitions >No naval vessels
Yup. Truly Russia is fighting the full might of NATO.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>No naval vessels
Actually, Turkey built them a corvette and Bongland is building them a frigate and missile boats.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Those contracts were signed befire the war.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>underdog does underdog things >nobody cares >elite fighting force who said they'd wipe the slate clean in 3 days uses century old guns >laughter
Yeah.
1 year ago
Anonymous
if a gun works, why would russia need to update theirs?
obviously these guns work if ukraine is using them, why spend the money to update?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>mosin still work, why buy new rifle? Foolish western MIC and their modern equipment
1 year ago
Anonymous
america has the most advanced military in the world and lost to desert dwelling goat-frickers.
how did the MIC help there?
1 year ago
Anonymous
By adding 20 years to the conflict and flexing on the rest of the world.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Turns out the MIC is better at killing Slavs than goatfrickers
1 year ago
Anonymous
>blah blah afghanistan
cope harder vatBlack person
1 year ago
Anonymous
By literally killing so many Taliban members they were forced to hide in caves like rats for 20 years, meaning the US could take and hold the entire country with less than 100,000 troops deployed at a single time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
and then they lost
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol. I don't remember the Taliban ever beating the US military in battle. the US left on its own accord, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is who lost.
1 year ago
Anonymous
sounds like Nam cope. why leave if you were winning? bored?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why leave an endless moneypit that isn't going anywhere positive >hurr durr you have to stay and waste your time or you'll get made fun of on the internet
i hope russia makes sure to be real manly and get stuck in a quagmire forever, that'd be real based and trad of them
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why leave an endless moneypit that isn't going anywhere positive
like sending all of our tax dollars to Ukraine?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>like sending all of our tax dollars to Ukraine?
The equipment sent has been already bought long time ago. It's being used for its purpose - kill vatniks.
1 year ago
Anonymous
US GDP is over 22 trillion dollars and you are not an American. Revenge on the remains of the Soviet Union whose subversion is completely responsible for Western anti-gun liberalism is a bargain.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>our
Not likely that your tax dollars are going to Ukraine. You're almost definitely from the third world. In the event you're actually playing 5th columnist in the West, you're certainly not gainfully employed to the point where you actually pay net positive taxes, or you're taking advantage of our generous welfare systems and are NEETing your life away.
does coping this hard help you sleep better at night?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>our
Not likely that your tax dollars are going to Ukraine. You're almost definitely from the third world. In the event you're actually playing 5th columnist in the West, you're certainly not gainfully employed to the point where you actually pay net positive taxes, or you're taking advantage of our generous welfare systems and are NEETing your life away.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>endless moneypit >Ukraine
Spending roughly 3% of the Afghanistan expenses to annihilate Russia's military is quite cost-efficient, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The best part is we are mostly only sending shit we arent using anymore and plan to decommission.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>annihilate Russia's military
Not only that, but their prestige is in tatters, how can all of those ex-Soviet states look to Russia for leadership now, after Russia has been shown to be so toothless? It's sweaty palms time for Armenia.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>how can all of those ex-Soviet states look to Russia for leadership now
None of them have seriously done that for decades at this point. Many of them joined the UN.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lots of Russia's neighbours do naturally look to her for regional leadership, but Russia has failed to economically attract since 1991, and now it looks like militarily she's set to further disappoint. Russia has so much potential, I don't get why they so consistently under-perform.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Russia has so much potential, I don't get why they so consistently under-perform.
Because all of the potential they project is built on lies and disinformation. If you put on a strong face and nobody ever calls you out on it then you look strong even if the first stiff wind will blow you over.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
>killing more of the enemy is not winning
what shithole are you from?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>AAAA MUH COMMUNISM IM LOSING MY MIND AAAAAA >GOTTA KILL ALL COMMIES >*gets btfo by commies* >*leaves* >PFFT WE DIDN"T EVEN NEED NAM, SAIGON WAS A FEINT. >WE DIDNT BEAT COMMUNISM BUT HEY WE KILLED SOME FARMERS SO WE WON
sounds like whats happening in ukraine right now
1 year ago
Anonymous
>killed the viets in greater numbers >forced them into a treaty >viets are now fake commies that sew our nike shoes for pennies
Looks like a win to me. What shithole are you from again? How buckbroken are you that you think that this is a victory kek.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Be Vietnam >Try to side with the US but the US was extremely moronic during Indochina war >Side with Commies because they need somebody to get weapons and supplies from >Fight war against the US >Win >Immediately drop major aspects of communism/socialism because they knew how moronic that shit was from the start >Continue to run a successful country to the present day
Okay
1 year ago
Anonymous
I fricking hate French homosexual so much, 20 years of war for fricking nothing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So communism was defeated? Concession accepted.
1 year ago
Anonymous
US pays port calls in Cam Ranh bay.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But we did beat communism. What happened to the Soviets again?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Same reason the Soviets left. What idiots in both nations could not understand is military force is not sufficient to fix popular resistance and indifference at "whole society" level and does not confer ANY ability to compel a dispersed enemy to give up their cause.
When you cannot compel your opponent to cease fighting you cannot win no matter how pretty your toys.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why leave if you were winning? bored?
A tactical feint, a goodwill gesture 🙂
1 year ago
Anonymous
>invade your country and BTFO's your government in a matter of weeks and occupies it for 20 years
Not once did you defeat burgers in battle. But I'm not surprised vatniks with cuck fantasies would think laying down and taking it for 20 years would be considered winning kek.
1 year ago
Anonymous
and now the Taliban run that country
1 year ago
Anonymous
>if you kill us, we win
No, I'm pretty sure the taliban are dead moron. So I guess if we invade Russia, and dispose of it's leader and killed all of the people in the government and occupy the country for 20 years. That's considered losing if we let Russians take control of the government again?
1 year ago
Anonymous
> I'm pretty sure the taliban are dead moron
I'm pretty sure they're not.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why don't the us secretly allied with them instead of fighting them on the first place? I mean US has history of secretly allying with other terrorist group, why not do the same with taliban?
1 year ago
Anonymous
> why is the US moronic
They just are.
There are persistent rumors that Osama and his gang were trained by CIA in the first place, then got the Saddam treatment and didn't quite like it, so 9/11 happened.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>There are persistent rumors that Osama and his gang were trained by CIA in the first place,
Its well known that one of the major reasons he had a hard on for the US was because they "helped" Afghanistan against the USSR in the 80s and then fricked off without delivering on many of their promises. He was a pretty major part of the war effort back then against the USSR if i remember right.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are not remembering correctly. His group got money and training via Pakistan and the Saudis and he certainly made a name for himself locally, but the key players during USSR involvement were the guys actively involved in the power struggle in Kabul then the subsequent Civil War until the taliban came in and wrecked house. Bin Laden gained some largesse early on in the conflict with the USSR, but used that to invest in other Islamic movements in places like Africa. Steve Coll has a few excellent books on this: Ghost Wars and an indirect sequel talking about US, Afghn, and Pakistani relations during the GWOT called Directorate S.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bin Laden was a go between for Saudi foreign fighters who were traveling to Afghanistan to help repel the Communists, and the Taliban. The Pushtins didn't take kindly to the Saudi fighters trying to "teach" them about Islam. They also didn't like the fact that many of these foreign fighters weren't there to fight, but to be Martyred. These were radicalized surplus young men that the regime sent to die in Afghanistan. The Afgans were about killing their enemy, not the other way around. Bin Laden smoothed all that out. He also used his family's earth moving equipment (they were big into construction) to dig defenses, and hospitals. He was strafed once by enemy aircraft while he was building fortifications for the Taliban. He led troops against the Invaders on at least one occasion.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Bin Laden was a go between for Saudi foreign fighters who were traveling to Afghanistan to help repel the Communists, and the Taliban
Did they time travel 10 years into the future to when the Taliban was founded?
1 year ago
Anonymous
His objection was to US forces on sacred Saudi turf.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>he didn't answer the question
answer the question moron, or are you going to keep repeating yourself like some bot?Also, Pretty sure the taliban government that the US took down is dead anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> answer the question > the question in question: what will happen if we invade Russia and we win
Do it homosexual, invade Russia and win. Then we'll probably talk and cosplay Madmax in the radioactive deserts.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No need to. We're destroying the Russian army with 4% of our annual military budget. It's a hell of a bargain for defeating the russian menace a second time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> n-no need to > We're destroying the Russian army with printers > Russian army goes from 850 000 to 1 500 000
As expected, you live in relativistic reality.
1 year ago
Anonymous
More bodies to send to the meat grinder doesnt really mean anything if you cant supply them and they arent motivated to fight. And im sure you can find a bunch of cope about how there are half a million tanks and however many rifles and blah blah blah but its never a realistic number.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>More bodies to send to the meat grinder doesnt really mean anything if you cant supply them
What if you actually can? Then what?
1 year ago
Anonymous
then 3 days
1 year ago
Anonymous
3 days of what?
1 year ago
Anonymous
3 days of last year we'll never get back, and counting
1 year ago
Anonymous
What if the moon opens up and inside of it there are tons of modern Russian weapony that magically fly down and equip every untrained conscript and instills within them a blazing inferno of national pride and willingness to fight!
THAT is more likely than them being able to mobilize and equip a large force.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Then why are ukies not in Crimea yet? They literally fight unarmed conscripts, no?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The amount of troops they currently have is the base amount they can actively shove some half rusted piece of shit AK into the hands of and ship off. The amount of shelling and other means of attacking is the base amount they can afford to do. Its not that they DONT have supplies its that they dont have proper logistics to distribute them or manufacture them fast enough for a large standing army. If they try to shove a bunch of people at the problem half of them are going in with t shirts and flashlights.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds like backpedaling to me. > haha, russians have no weapons and morale > on a second thought, they might have but it's not in a sufficient amount so it'll take them more time
1 year ago
Anonymous
Na its just you will see what you want to see because you are delusional. The simple fact is that logistics and supply is FAR more important than practically any other facet of modern warfare and the Russians have proven themselves to be absolutely inept at it. They have tanks but they are all in disrepair sitting in a field rusting out. They have guns but they are all boxed away in warehouses rusting out because they arent properly stored. They have weapon factories that are sputtering and not producing enough so badly they are buying shells from the fricking north Koreans.
If your tanks are in a field and not running you dont have any tanks to deploy. If your guns are all boxed away and in likely poor condition you dont have any guns to distribute. If you dont have a competent logistics operation the "quantity" of arms you have doesnt mean a fricking thing because you cant move them where they are needed. The US isnt the strongest military in the world because it has the newest toys. Its the strongest because it has the logistical capability to supply its forces in ways other countries can only DREAM of. The toys are a bonus.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, yeah, you've learned your propaganda well like a good tool.
Yet the STRONGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD lost to goat frickers just a couple of years ago and all their logistics, toys and shit did nothing but spend good dollar for jack shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Na its just you will see what you want to see because you are delusional. The simple fact is that logistics and supply is FAR more important than practically any other facet of modern warfare and the Russians have proven themselves to be absolutely inept at it.
lmfao, you clown dick homosexuals can ship burger-king anywhere in the world in 24hrs, but that means frick, mother fricking-all about zoomer-American boi's doing counter-battery-artillery-warfare™ 2 continents away from home.
cant wait to see how the Burger-civilians digest their first drone video, where pvt.Kayden is crawling around on the ground crying for momma, after a toy helicopter dropped a mini-grenade on his dick while slept in an open trench, off his meds.
go head.
LOL
lets see lnc cprl jayden in 720p crawl around on the ground and eat like 2 or 3 nades to his face.
im sure America!! is ready for it
1 year ago
Anonymous
Poor, brown hands typed this post.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Poor, brown hands typed this post.
A complete b***h typed this response ^
1 year ago
Anonymous
good morning sirs
1 year ago
Anonymous
If the US were fighting this war it would have never devolved into batteries and counter batteries. The other side wouldnt have artillery available after the first day or two. Say what you want about how the US fights but their strong suit recently has always been precision munitions dropped with impunity from total air supremacy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why the frick would an American soldier be sleeping in an open trench under contested airspace with no local SHORAD or EWAR capability?
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is shit your pants and blame someone else level posting
1 year ago
Anonymous
War is complicated.
To actually get to Crimea will mean killing or routing potentially hundreds of thousands of Russians, which takes time and consumes vast amounts of fuel and ammunition
Thus, the Ukrainians require time to stockpile the necessary resources, plan the attack, generate the required force in the required areas, shape the battlefield conditions appropriately and most importantly of all, ensure sufficient logistical support will be available.
Given that Crimea is a peninsula whose entrance is located within currently Russian held territory, an important prerequisite for its liberation is the liquidation of all Russian forces in southern Ukraine, which is also an operation requires all of the extensive planning and preparation mentioned above and then some more besides.
For these reasons and more, Ukraine has not liberated Crimea yet
yet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Its also good to remember that while Crimea was taken by Russia it was taken a decade ago so trying to reclaim it now might sour foreign relations. Its one thing to defend yourself and its another to start waging an offensive war into "foreign" territory. Crimea belongs to Ukraine but taking it back right now when they need the support of the west is probably a mistake.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ukraine can't join the EU whith territories under occupation, and that's still the end goal here. Time won't change that. Opinion disregarded.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Cyprus joined the EU in 2002 with territories occupied by Turkey after they rejected the Annan plan.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>its another to start waging an offensive war into "foreign" territory.
Uh, yeah, send that memo to Putin. He is currently waging an offensive war in a foreign country, Jackass!
Ukraine left the Soviet Union in 1991! It is a different, discrete country that is not part of Russia. Now it will never be part of Russia ever again. Crimea is not part of Russia. Now it will never be part of Russia ever again. The Yooks will kill any Russians that contest this. Those are the facts on the ground. Deal with it.
Shitposter heal thyself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What the frick are you on about? The only thing i was saying in that post is that if Ukraine went and started offensive actions into territory they havnt owned in a decade it might cause tensions with the UN and US. It SHOULD be theirs and they SHOULD reclaim it but invading it right now if they have the chance is probably a mistake. Currently it is "foreign" land because Russia stole it and held on to it for so long.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the original men are dead >but those that came after that still carry on the same ideals the original taliban had are still alive >and they control the country.
wow damn I guess americas revolution died when the founding fathers passed away huh? oh wait no people carry on the torch of their forebearers even after they die. The modern taliban is the same as the old taliban; and if you kill this taliban then the new taliban will be the same as this one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, that just means we defeated them twice. The taliban lost against american troops and they lost again passing on their shit ideology to keep their children living in caves and fricking goats, while we airlift all the afghans with brains and high iq out of that shithole.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There is no reason to invade Russia. There is every reason to repeat the SUCCESSFUL containment strategy which imploded the Soviet Union and freed the Warsaw Pact who are today mostly NATO members because nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by Russia.
Bleed Russia, kill vatnigs, further their demographic decline, aid other like Chechens who hate Russia but cut a deal with Russia itself to let the same oligarcy keep abusing vatniks while exporting resources so Russia continues its path to Snowgeria. The bugs will buy the east.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by Russia
Nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by usa either.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> invade your country and BTFO's your government in a matter of weeks
Russians did it first in exactly the same way. You say it as it's some achievement.
The difference is what came after that: Russans tried to clean the country on their own and gave up in 10 years. Americans fortified in bases and used/payed afganis as cannon fodder (80k dead army+militia), then gave up in 20 years.
In the end, both "superpowers" lost to goat frickers.
Mark my words, Xi will never invade Afghanistan.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Mark my words, Xi will never invade Afghanistan.
I give it five years before the PLA moves in en masse, maybe less if the Taliban start attacking the Chinese soldiers who are already there
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Russans tried to clean the country on their own
By destroying 80% of Afghanistan’s infrastructure and killing over a million civilians?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>used/payed afganis as cannon fodder
Thank you for clearly demonstrating how little you know about the country. Your opinion can be discarded now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>not understanding the fighting doctrine of an insurgency at all
You're not supposed to "win" battles in an insurgency anon. You're supposed to keep the COIN force from being able to exact its will upon your land for long enough that they leave, which is exactly what the Taliban did.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you know the difference?
russia attacked this micro ass chechyna and got so brutally fricked that they are traumatised to this day
and are literally afraid of chechens thinking of them they are some elite super soldiers, when in reality
they are essentially the same as taliban goat frickers.
americans on the other hand dont care about taliban even the slightest. this should tell you something
1 year ago
Anonymous
Chechens didn't bomb the Kremlin, tho.
> americans on the other hand dont care about taliban even the slightest
Uh-huh. That's why they travel half the globe, invaded and stayed 20 years, spending trillions - because they didn't care. At all.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Which is more likely anon
A). >going halfway around the world to fight an enemy that was willing to sign a deal to give up Bin Laden >frick up your own victory by going after the Northern Alliance >spend two decades dicking around there to defeat "terrorism"
B). >9/11 at the very least was known but nothing was done or was preplanned at worst >Excuse now given to go halfway around the world to fight an enemy that doesn't even exist because you made it all up >Control the worlds supply of Opium >Have an endless war that the MIC and the politicians in bed with them can profit from indefinitely
1 year ago
Anonymous
Whatever your shizo preferences are, I guess.
So did they care or they didn't? Make up your mind.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Now that I look at this image after having watched a whole bunch of missile impacts over the course of the Ukrainian war I can confidently say that if it really was a missile and not a plane that struck the Pentagon then it must have been a missile built by Russians
1 year ago
Anonymous
damn i hate dennis
1 year ago
Anonymous
The soviet army also lost against said desert-dwelling goatfrickers, and they were a far better force for its time than the russian army is now
1 year ago
Anonymous
>underdog >unlimited "black budget" support from the entire west
yeah, just like taiwan is "the underdog" right?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I remember when nato dropped off all the equipment on day two of the conflict. Good times.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Unlimited support
1 year ago
Anonymous
>just like Taiwan is "the underdog"
yes, Taiwan is the underdog, it is a much smaller and weaker nation than the PRC after all
However Taiwan, like Ukraine, has friends
and that makes all the difference in the world
1 year ago
Anonymous
Black person how moronic are you. Ukraine has an excuse as it's not the supposed second most powerful nation in the world. Russia claimed it was that powerful nation yet issued literal Mosins to its troops. Ukraine, as they were fighting on the defensive for the first half of the war, needed to use anything it could possibly find to defend against the Russians until major Western support could arrive and thus yes, the argument of "if it shoots it's fine" applies. After all, Ukraine was supposed to be an incredibly weak country compared to Russia and the fact that Russia couldn't even take Kyiv despite the massive power difference is fricking hilarious to anyone not sucking Russias dick, as it confirms what many of us knew all along, that Russia would never have conventionally stood up to NATO if the Cold War had ever gone hot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
so you're mad about words? you sound like a woman.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>only comeback is "you mad bro" and doesn't try to dispute what I said
1 year ago
Anonymous
why do you think you deserve to be "disputed"? you're not relevant
1 year ago
Anonymous
Exactly! And neither are you! Or Russia in this case as actions speak more loudly than words. And Russia's inability to finish off Ukraine and in fact be pushed out of nearly all the territory it had originally taken speaks volumes as to its true position in the world. I bet the Chinks are already planning on how to divide up Russia and steal your women.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>seething this much
lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Unironicly supporting Russia.
How does it feel to get raped by your squad mates vlad?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Submarine
isn't ukraine supposed to lost most of their navy during 2014 crimea invasion?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>More than 20:1 in choppers >More than 100:1 in aircrafts
I know a lot of that is for transport, training, observation, ect...
But damn, how do you end up stuck ?
That's enough air power that they Can afford to attack AA systems head on and win.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Russia can't afford to take significant losses. Making Russia frick itself up, is the goal of this conflict.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Kyiv
1 year ago
Anonymous
Isn't it the other way around? Everyone acknowledges Kiev as the old spelling but some people get extremely angry when you say Kyiv.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why does the word "Kyiv" trigger the chuggies so much?
1 year ago
Anonymous
you own it, you name it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Maxim gun
A ww1 machine gun for a ww1 battlefield?! Color me shocked.
Modern machine gun are light to support a mobile platoon. It’s made for short bursts, and requires frequent change of the tube.
Now if you have a fixed position, in a trench, and have to fight a human wave or supress enemies under cover attacking you position, a ww1 machine gun is better. You can fire nearly non stop for an hour, and cool it with water, snow or pee.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>admits that strong russian army is the same as poorest european country's army
you cant make this shit up LMAO
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ukrainian nationalists weren't the ones spamming this board for the last ten (10) years about how strong they were and how they could totally take the west, about how their tanks were better than anything in NATO, about how the SU-57 could shoot down an F35 from the other side of the planet, and about how their ground pounders were better for having a higher tooth-to-tail ratio. That was all vatniks, and now you fricking AIDS monkeys have the nerve to wonder why most of /k/ hates your guts. Even if I was neutral on the issue of Ukraine's sovereignty and Russia trying to rebuild the USSR, but with more HIV, I'd still be rooting against Russia just because their shills are so damn annoying. Make like a good vatnik and die of AIDS.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>spamming this board for the last ten (10) years
take meds. anyone thats been here for the past decade knows tankies weren't a psyop but actual morons that believed what they said.
the modern mindset is to blame everything on high-level psyop groups instead of recognizing there are lots of stupid people that believe stupid things
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the modern mindset is to blame everything on high-level psyop groups instead of recognizing there are lots of stupid people that believe stupid things
Finally someone talks some sense in the pol infested modern PrepHole.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the modern mindset is to blame everything on high-level psyop groups instead of recognizing there are lots of stupid people that believe stupid things
Finally someone talks some sense in the pol infested modern PrepHole.
It's psyops AND people who are moronic. Case in point with /k/: >feds and Ukrainian propagandists shitpost nonstop >homosexuals who drank the kool-aid repost ad infinitum >more homosexuals chime in to the shitposts thinking it is actual discussion >anon's who actually know what they're talking about try to give a real take on the situation >get's immediately blasted by both moronic sides being fed by literal feds and propagandists >rinse repeat
1 year ago
Anonymous
"Psyops" is just a blanket term for anyone who disagrees with their schizo delusional bullshit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't believe they were actually all paid shills all along, which is why I didn't call them that, but the fact remains that this board has been spammed by vatnik morons since the Clankening and Great Crimean Shitshow. That they did it FOR FREE LOLE doesn't make it less annoying.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't think anyone cares why they were here anon, I think the point is that they were here and they have been talking shit this entire time and now they need to shut the frick up because their precious Russian military has very publically proven itself to be worthless
1 year ago
Anonymous
You can spam a board without being paid
1 year ago
Anonymous
that machine gun is not to shoot Ukrainians, it's to shoot Russians who don't want to shoot Ukrainians, trust the plan!
1 year ago
Anonymous
My point is that not laughing at a mobik armed with a mosin and a Soviet era steel helmet is moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The Ukrainians aren't the ones boasting about being the second best military on the planet, they're just ones defending their homeland with everything they can get, find, or given to.
but anon an M14 is still a magazine-fed rifle in a contemporary cartridge, even if it's not optimal. SKSs are functionally obsolete top-loading clip-fed rifles in an outdated cartridge.
moist nuggets were issued in the first fiew months, Granted, probably to rear line troops and it is perfectly capable of shooting boolets (when the opponet is a civilian facing the wall)
>russia issued its troops , a chenisium ak lookalike singleshot pelletgun (captured from vatniks by oinkers) pic related. Air rifle was Prolly the worst offender. Whoever carried it was better off with a mosin or even a makrmeshift BP pipegun
>rusted to shit aks given to russian conscripts stand right behind the airgun in corrupt russian shitbaggery. The mosin atleast has a big cartrige , shoots precisely and probably wont explode
The worst that russians have captured was an M14 that seems to he in good functional order (wood looks beaten up somewhat though)
Us army uses the m14 untill today in some capacity( no longer standard issue rifle), although modernised with "assaulting (my eyes) black furniture",
Hell the m3 greasegun has an impressive service record untill at least the gulf war.
TLDR: russia issued a fricking pelletgun
But then again, all those "captures" could be a psy op
i'm surprised that poor conscript got anything at all...
1 year ago
Anonymous
Checked and /k/ is clinically fricking braindead didn't you see the flying creature rock drop thread, or the grenade genera praise?
1 year ago
Anonymous
It could be > Looted airgun to bring home or shoot some cans with the boys when bored between shellings (prolly the most likely one)
>brought from home from recreation , dunno if they can do that though
>A corrupt quartermaster (or whoever issues weapons in the russian army) replacing the ak he sold off , or he just hated that Pvt consript conscriptovich conscriptivski.
It seems to have never seen cosmoline so it might be
1 someones attic airgun
2 came from a badly run depo
3has seen a lot of moisture and mud like if it was carried in the field so its chinesium grade bluing just could not take it
The "sling" indicates it was meant to be carried by its "possible" previous owners or solders
Also airsoft helmets were found in a russian supply depo so it wouldnt suprise me. So quite possible that it was issued IMO
>a ukie psyop meticulously crafting the narative that russia is an incompetent and a corrupt shithole. All of it from airshit helmets to airguns
US donated a shitload of M14’s to Ukraine I think before the invasion. They mostly go to territorial defense units. Probably a good use for them since they’ve been sitting in army warehouses for decades.
>Federal agents are making everyone hate Russians on /k/ >It's totally not the way we shit up the place, troll, post gore, mock dead children and call everyone glowies
>commander yells at you during your daily gaping session to find proof that they are fighting NATO giga-Black person-mecha-Hitler HIV augmented hypersoldiers >only western gear he found was a 240 bravo and a fricking garand >still presents it
This is the sims 3 cards levels of incompetency
Friendly reminder that Prigozhin via his media empire has embarked on a large scale program to raise his profile. All the bodies in Soledar were lost so that a guy could better larp as a military commander.
Hahaha, never going to happen. The DRC is quicksilver. There is no government. No one is in charge. Tsekedi is a stuffed shirt, just like Kabila.
And a few gayner guys aren't going to put an end to M23. They can't be wiped out unless they invade Rwanda, and that's not happening.
Damn, i just remember that kadyrov and his chechen brigade existed. Isn't bakhmut front is the perfect place for them. I mean they are supposed to be storm troopers right?
>don't go on /k/ for a full week >Russians are literally still going on about Bakhmut
holy shit they still haven't taken it or come up with a new strategy? How moronic are they?
Yeah seems pretty fricking moronic. They should try capturing the country and winning the war instead of sitting in a losing stalemate.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They should try capturing the country
And lose thousands like the Ukrainians over land they will retake later?
https://i.imgur.com/RvMRyJw.jpg
I lol'd!
If the fighting forces were at full strength Ukraine would've deployed 86k into that little box alone. The Ukrainians should've given up Bakhmut a month ago instead of sending troops into an artillery hot spot
As with everything that comes out of a kacap's mouth, this is the opposite of reality.
When Ukraine loses this war, I would re-evaluate your sources and life choices
https://i.imgur.com/LHfQnTZ.jpg
Absolutely amazing
Thank you fren. It was a lot of work
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And lose thousands
You do that every day, pidorashka, it's kind of embarrassing to watch. Is there no word for self respect in Russian? You're a constant source of cringe.
Let me break it down for you >The largest Ukrainian element participating in the defense of Bakhmut is regiment sized, with a maximum of 2000 men >The largest Russian element participating in the assault on Bahkmut is Corps sized, with a maximum of 90,000 men >In the Russian army, soldiers who retreat without orders are severely punished, with some Russian soldiers even being summarily executed for "cowardice" >The Russian army has been launching continuous attacks against the Ukrainian defenses at Bahkmut for seven months >The Russian army has not successfully captured the town of Bahkmut
In order for all of the things listed above to be true, the Russian attackers must be suffering massively disproportionate casualties relative to the Ukrainian defenders at Bakhmut
There is simply no other possible explanation that can be drawn from the available evidence
What are all you trannies on /k/ going to do when Russia btfo's Ukraine within the next month? I might come to /k/ and gloat all the time, but I don't have any of the israelite death porn folders so maybe I'll just post Z's everywhere. I can't believe you fricking clowns think Russia ever came close to losing this war. I thought /k/ was based before the war, and man I am glad you fricking morons showed up for Ukraine, otherwise I might've been israeliteed myself.
hahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahha, go sign up for Ukraine you losers.
>within the next month
Lets just wait for the 2 day victory predicted by Russians at the beginning of the war. Russia is fricking pathetic, even for a Slavic ex-Soviet shithole, they're a joke..
>Wagner is living the dream right now
Is this a dream where they regain consciousness in a muddy ditch with their ears ringing and both legs blown off?
The rule of vatnik: anyone posting pro russian propaganda is 25% chance to be a serb, 50% chance to be from india or pakistan or a delusional commy or qtard.
>How is Ukraine losing despite the world support?
the police show up a lot faster if you tell them you already had to kill several people vs. just saying theres an angry mob outside
The dream of failing to take Soledar?
The dream of finding cool shit
imagine the sperging Oinkers would do if they say russian soldiers with an SKS.
Yet there's eerie silence when Oinkers are caught with an m14/m1a.
Where were you months ago when they were issuing mosins to frontline troops. The world laughed.
my point was that laughing at ANY weapon capable of shooting bullets is moronic.
a mosin, an sks AND an m14 can kill you easily; yet oinkers are silent about the m14 and would create endless threads of ruskies used SKS's.
two of those designs are seriously obsolete and hilariously obsolete, and it isn't the M14. There's also the issue of the russian army, the second army in the world, not having enough AK74s to equip their proxies.
The mosin isn't obsolete to Russians. It's often used for things like beating their wives and armed robbery.
I'm going to need some tinfoil for this one.
tinfoil for what? russians used old ww1 machine guns and oinkies laughed; until oinkies were caught using the same machine guns and nobody said a thing
>the second army of the world cries when they're held to their own standards
you guys pretending, or just moronic?
it's the militias who are using ancient weapons and basically anything that is capable of shooting, not the Russian army
So, you admit the Russian military is on par with the Ukranian army?
yes the second army of the world is a match for the entire combined efforts of the West.
>Some stuff Nato found in the shed
>The entire combined efforts
Oh, sweet little copelet
>entire combined efforts of the West
This is the funniest shit I've read all year. America has to be careful about how quickly it gives Ukraine its outdated Cold War-era equipment because if they give stuff as recent as 1990s tech Russia might see that as "overt escalation" and rattle their nuclear saber a little too loud.
Wait I thought Patriots were newe- oh lol I've never laughed so hard at being wrong.
Tbf they have changed a loooot in that time
It's not about the age of the delivery system but the payload itself. That applies to pretty much every vehicle nowadays that wasn't made in the past 20 years.
>NATO hasn’t given Ukraine any modern air assets
>just recently given tanks and IFV’s in small numbers
>US refuse to give Ukraine more advanced and longer ranged munitions
>No naval vessels
Yup. Truly Russia is fighting the full might of NATO.
>No naval vessels
Actually, Turkey built them a corvette and Bongland is building them a frigate and missile boats.
Those contracts were signed befire the war.
>underdog does underdog things
>nobody cares
>elite fighting force who said they'd wipe the slate clean in 3 days uses century old guns
>laughter
Yeah.
if a gun works, why would russia need to update theirs?
obviously these guns work if ukraine is using them, why spend the money to update?
>mosin still work, why buy new rifle? Foolish western MIC and their modern equipment
america has the most advanced military in the world and lost to desert dwelling goat-frickers.
how did the MIC help there?
By adding 20 years to the conflict and flexing on the rest of the world.
Turns out the MIC is better at killing Slavs than goatfrickers
>blah blah afghanistan
cope harder vatBlack person
By literally killing so many Taliban members they were forced to hide in caves like rats for 20 years, meaning the US could take and hold the entire country with less than 100,000 troops deployed at a single time.
and then they lost
lol. I don't remember the Taliban ever beating the US military in battle. the US left on its own accord, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is who lost.
sounds like Nam cope. why leave if you were winning? bored?
>why leave an endless moneypit that isn't going anywhere positive
>hurr durr you have to stay and waste your time or you'll get made fun of on the internet
i hope russia makes sure to be real manly and get stuck in a quagmire forever, that'd be real based and trad of them
>why leave an endless moneypit that isn't going anywhere positive
like sending all of our tax dollars to Ukraine?
>like sending all of our tax dollars to Ukraine?
The equipment sent has been already bought long time ago. It's being used for its purpose - kill vatniks.
US GDP is over 22 trillion dollars and you are not an American. Revenge on the remains of the Soviet Union whose subversion is completely responsible for Western anti-gun liberalism is a bargain.
does coping this hard help you sleep better at night?
>our
Not likely that your tax dollars are going to Ukraine. You're almost definitely from the third world. In the event you're actually playing 5th columnist in the West, you're certainly not gainfully employed to the point where you actually pay net positive taxes, or you're taking advantage of our generous welfare systems and are NEETing your life away.
>endless moneypit
>Ukraine
Spending roughly 3% of the Afghanistan expenses to annihilate Russia's military is quite cost-efficient, anon.
The best part is we are mostly only sending shit we arent using anymore and plan to decommission.
>annihilate Russia's military
Not only that, but their prestige is in tatters, how can all of those ex-Soviet states look to Russia for leadership now, after Russia has been shown to be so toothless? It's sweaty palms time for Armenia.
>how can all of those ex-Soviet states look to Russia for leadership now
None of them have seriously done that for decades at this point. Many of them joined the UN.
Lots of Russia's neighbours do naturally look to her for regional leadership, but Russia has failed to economically attract since 1991, and now it looks like militarily she's set to further disappoint. Russia has so much potential, I don't get why they so consistently under-perform.
>Russia has so much potential, I don't get why they so consistently under-perform.
Because all of the potential they project is built on lies and disinformation. If you put on a strong face and nobody ever calls you out on it then you look strong even if the first stiff wind will blow you over.
>killing more of the enemy is not winning
what shithole are you from?
>AAAA MUH COMMUNISM IM LOSING MY MIND AAAAAA
>GOTTA KILL ALL COMMIES
>*gets btfo by commies*
>*leaves*
>PFFT WE DIDN"T EVEN NEED NAM, SAIGON WAS A FEINT.
>WE DIDNT BEAT COMMUNISM BUT HEY WE KILLED SOME FARMERS SO WE WON
sounds like whats happening in ukraine right now
>killed the viets in greater numbers
>forced them into a treaty
>viets are now fake commies that sew our nike shoes for pennies
Looks like a win to me. What shithole are you from again? How buckbroken are you that you think that this is a victory kek.
>Be Vietnam
>Try to side with the US but the US was extremely moronic during Indochina war
>Side with Commies because they need somebody to get weapons and supplies from
>Fight war against the US
>Win
>Immediately drop major aspects of communism/socialism because they knew how moronic that shit was from the start
>Continue to run a successful country to the present day
Okay
I fricking hate French homosexual so much, 20 years of war for fricking nothing.
So communism was defeated? Concession accepted.
US pays port calls in Cam Ranh bay.
But we did beat communism. What happened to the Soviets again?
Same reason the Soviets left. What idiots in both nations could not understand is military force is not sufficient to fix popular resistance and indifference at "whole society" level and does not confer ANY ability to compel a dispersed enemy to give up their cause.
When you cannot compel your opponent to cease fighting you cannot win no matter how pretty your toys.
>why leave if you were winning? bored?
A tactical feint, a goodwill gesture 🙂
>invade your country and BTFO's your government in a matter of weeks and occupies it for 20 years
Not once did you defeat burgers in battle. But I'm not surprised vatniks with cuck fantasies would think laying down and taking it for 20 years would be considered winning kek.
and now the Taliban run that country
>if you kill us, we win
No, I'm pretty sure the taliban are dead moron. So I guess if we invade Russia, and dispose of it's leader and killed all of the people in the government and occupy the country for 20 years. That's considered losing if we let Russians take control of the government again?
> I'm pretty sure the taliban are dead moron
I'm pretty sure they're not.
Why don't the us secretly allied with them instead of fighting them on the first place? I mean US has history of secretly allying with other terrorist group, why not do the same with taliban?
> why is the US moronic
They just are.
There are persistent rumors that Osama and his gang were trained by CIA in the first place, then got the Saddam treatment and didn't quite like it, so 9/11 happened.
>There are persistent rumors that Osama and his gang were trained by CIA in the first place,
Its well known that one of the major reasons he had a hard on for the US was because they "helped" Afghanistan against the USSR in the 80s and then fricked off without delivering on many of their promises. He was a pretty major part of the war effort back then against the USSR if i remember right.
You are not remembering correctly. His group got money and training via Pakistan and the Saudis and he certainly made a name for himself locally, but the key players during USSR involvement were the guys actively involved in the power struggle in Kabul then the subsequent Civil War until the taliban came in and wrecked house. Bin Laden gained some largesse early on in the conflict with the USSR, but used that to invest in other Islamic movements in places like Africa. Steve Coll has a few excellent books on this: Ghost Wars and an indirect sequel talking about US, Afghn, and Pakistani relations during the GWOT called Directorate S.
Bin Laden was a go between for Saudi foreign fighters who were traveling to Afghanistan to help repel the Communists, and the Taliban. The Pushtins didn't take kindly to the Saudi fighters trying to "teach" them about Islam. They also didn't like the fact that many of these foreign fighters weren't there to fight, but to be Martyred. These were radicalized surplus young men that the regime sent to die in Afghanistan. The Afgans were about killing their enemy, not the other way around. Bin Laden smoothed all that out. He also used his family's earth moving equipment (they were big into construction) to dig defenses, and hospitals. He was strafed once by enemy aircraft while he was building fortifications for the Taliban. He led troops against the Invaders on at least one occasion.
>Bin Laden was a go between for Saudi foreign fighters who were traveling to Afghanistan to help repel the Communists, and the Taliban
Did they time travel 10 years into the future to when the Taliban was founded?
His objection was to US forces on sacred Saudi turf.
>he didn't answer the question
answer the question moron, or are you going to keep repeating yourself like some bot?Also, Pretty sure the taliban government that the US took down is dead anon.
> answer the question
> the question in question: what will happen if we invade Russia and we win
Do it homosexual, invade Russia and win. Then we'll probably talk and cosplay Madmax in the radioactive deserts.
No need to. We're destroying the Russian army with 4% of our annual military budget. It's a hell of a bargain for defeating the russian menace a second time.
> n-no need to
> We're destroying the Russian army with printers
> Russian army goes from 850 000 to 1 500 000
As expected, you live in relativistic reality.
More bodies to send to the meat grinder doesnt really mean anything if you cant supply them and they arent motivated to fight. And im sure you can find a bunch of cope about how there are half a million tanks and however many rifles and blah blah blah but its never a realistic number.
>More bodies to send to the meat grinder doesnt really mean anything if you cant supply them
What if you actually can? Then what?
then 3 days
3 days of what?
3 days of last year we'll never get back, and counting
What if the moon opens up and inside of it there are tons of modern Russian weapony that magically fly down and equip every untrained conscript and instills within them a blazing inferno of national pride and willingness to fight!
THAT is more likely than them being able to mobilize and equip a large force.
Then why are ukies not in Crimea yet? They literally fight unarmed conscripts, no?
The amount of troops they currently have is the base amount they can actively shove some half rusted piece of shit AK into the hands of and ship off. The amount of shelling and other means of attacking is the base amount they can afford to do. Its not that they DONT have supplies its that they dont have proper logistics to distribute them or manufacture them fast enough for a large standing army. If they try to shove a bunch of people at the problem half of them are going in with t shirts and flashlights.
Sounds like backpedaling to me.
> haha, russians have no weapons and morale
> on a second thought, they might have but it's not in a sufficient amount so it'll take them more time
Na its just you will see what you want to see because you are delusional. The simple fact is that logistics and supply is FAR more important than practically any other facet of modern warfare and the Russians have proven themselves to be absolutely inept at it. They have tanks but they are all in disrepair sitting in a field rusting out. They have guns but they are all boxed away in warehouses rusting out because they arent properly stored. They have weapon factories that are sputtering and not producing enough so badly they are buying shells from the fricking north Koreans.
If your tanks are in a field and not running you dont have any tanks to deploy. If your guns are all boxed away and in likely poor condition you dont have any guns to distribute. If you dont have a competent logistics operation the "quantity" of arms you have doesnt mean a fricking thing because you cant move them where they are needed. The US isnt the strongest military in the world because it has the newest toys. Its the strongest because it has the logistical capability to supply its forces in ways other countries can only DREAM of. The toys are a bonus.
Yeah, yeah, you've learned your propaganda well like a good tool.
Yet the STRONGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD lost to goat frickers just a couple of years ago and all their logistics, toys and shit did nothing but spend good dollar for jack shit.
>Na its just you will see what you want to see because you are delusional. The simple fact is that logistics and supply is FAR more important than practically any other facet of modern warfare and the Russians have proven themselves to be absolutely inept at it.
lmfao, you clown dick homosexuals can ship burger-king anywhere in the world in 24hrs, but that means frick, mother fricking-all about zoomer-American boi's doing counter-battery-artillery-warfare™ 2 continents away from home.
cant wait to see how the Burger-civilians digest their first drone video, where pvt.Kayden is crawling around on the ground crying for momma, after a toy helicopter dropped a mini-grenade on his dick while slept in an open trench, off his meds.
go head.
LOL
lets see lnc cprl jayden in 720p crawl around on the ground and eat like 2 or 3 nades to his face.
im sure America!! is ready for it
Poor, brown hands typed this post.
>Poor, brown hands typed this post.
A complete b***h typed this response ^
good morning sirs
If the US were fighting this war it would have never devolved into batteries and counter batteries. The other side wouldnt have artillery available after the first day or two. Say what you want about how the US fights but their strong suit recently has always been precision munitions dropped with impunity from total air supremacy.
Why the frick would an American soldier be sleeping in an open trench under contested airspace with no local SHORAD or EWAR capability?
This is shit your pants and blame someone else level posting
War is complicated.
To actually get to Crimea will mean killing or routing potentially hundreds of thousands of Russians, which takes time and consumes vast amounts of fuel and ammunition
Thus, the Ukrainians require time to stockpile the necessary resources, plan the attack, generate the required force in the required areas, shape the battlefield conditions appropriately and most importantly of all, ensure sufficient logistical support will be available.
Given that Crimea is a peninsula whose entrance is located within currently Russian held territory, an important prerequisite for its liberation is the liquidation of all Russian forces in southern Ukraine, which is also an operation requires all of the extensive planning and preparation mentioned above and then some more besides.
For these reasons and more, Ukraine has not liberated Crimea yet
yet.
Its also good to remember that while Crimea was taken by Russia it was taken a decade ago so trying to reclaim it now might sour foreign relations. Its one thing to defend yourself and its another to start waging an offensive war into "foreign" territory. Crimea belongs to Ukraine but taking it back right now when they need the support of the west is probably a mistake.
Ukraine can't join the EU whith territories under occupation, and that's still the end goal here. Time won't change that. Opinion disregarded.
Cyprus joined the EU in 2002 with territories occupied by Turkey after they rejected the Annan plan.
>its another to start waging an offensive war into "foreign" territory.
Uh, yeah, send that memo to Putin. He is currently waging an offensive war in a foreign country, Jackass!
Ukraine left the Soviet Union in 1991! It is a different, discrete country that is not part of Russia. Now it will never be part of Russia ever again. Crimea is not part of Russia. Now it will never be part of Russia ever again. The Yooks will kill any Russians that contest this. Those are the facts on the ground. Deal with it.
Shitposter heal thyself.
What the frick are you on about? The only thing i was saying in that post is that if Ukraine went and started offensive actions into territory they havnt owned in a decade it might cause tensions with the UN and US. It SHOULD be theirs and they SHOULD reclaim it but invading it right now if they have the chance is probably a mistake. Currently it is "foreign" land because Russia stole it and held on to it for so long.
>the original men are dead
>but those that came after that still carry on the same ideals the original taliban had are still alive
>and they control the country.
wow damn I guess americas revolution died when the founding fathers passed away huh? oh wait no people carry on the torch of their forebearers even after they die. The modern taliban is the same as the old taliban; and if you kill this taliban then the new taliban will be the same as this one.
No, that just means we defeated them twice. The taliban lost against american troops and they lost again passing on their shit ideology to keep their children living in caves and fricking goats, while we airlift all the afghans with brains and high iq out of that shithole.
There is no reason to invade Russia. There is every reason to repeat the SUCCESSFUL containment strategy which imploded the Soviet Union and freed the Warsaw Pact who are today mostly NATO members because nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by Russia.
Bleed Russia, kill vatnigs, further their demographic decline, aid other like Chechens who hate Russia but cut a deal with Russia itself to let the same oligarcy keep abusing vatniks while exporting resources so Russia continues its path to Snowgeria. The bugs will buy the east.
> nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by Russia
Nobody sane with a choice wants to be ruled by usa either.
> invade your country and BTFO's your government in a matter of weeks
Russians did it first in exactly the same way. You say it as it's some achievement.
The difference is what came after that: Russans tried to clean the country on their own and gave up in 10 years. Americans fortified in bases and used/payed afganis as cannon fodder (80k dead army+militia), then gave up in 20 years.
In the end, both "superpowers" lost to goat frickers.
Mark my words, Xi will never invade Afghanistan.
>Mark my words, Xi will never invade Afghanistan.
I give it five years before the PLA moves in en masse, maybe less if the Taliban start attacking the Chinese soldiers who are already there
>Russans tried to clean the country on their own
By destroying 80% of Afghanistan’s infrastructure and killing over a million civilians?
>used/payed afganis as cannon fodder
Thank you for clearly demonstrating how little you know about the country. Your opinion can be discarded now.
>not understanding the fighting doctrine of an insurgency at all
You're not supposed to "win" battles in an insurgency anon. You're supposed to keep the COIN force from being able to exact its will upon your land for long enough that they leave, which is exactly what the Taliban did.
you know the difference?
russia attacked this micro ass chechyna and got so brutally fricked that they are traumatised to this day
and are literally afraid of chechens thinking of them they are some elite super soldiers, when in reality
they are essentially the same as taliban goat frickers.
americans on the other hand dont care about taliban even the slightest. this should tell you something
Chechens didn't bomb the Kremlin, tho.
> americans on the other hand dont care about taliban even the slightest
Uh-huh. That's why they travel half the globe, invaded and stayed 20 years, spending trillions - because they didn't care. At all.
Which is more likely anon
A).
>going halfway around the world to fight an enemy that was willing to sign a deal to give up Bin Laden
>frick up your own victory by going after the Northern Alliance
>spend two decades dicking around there to defeat "terrorism"
B).
>9/11 at the very least was known but nothing was done or was preplanned at worst
>Excuse now given to go halfway around the world to fight an enemy that doesn't even exist because you made it all up
>Control the worlds supply of Opium
>Have an endless war that the MIC and the politicians in bed with them can profit from indefinitely
Whatever your shizo preferences are, I guess.
So did they care or they didn't? Make up your mind.
Now that I look at this image after having watched a whole bunch of missile impacts over the course of the Ukrainian war I can confidently say that if it really was a missile and not a plane that struck the Pentagon then it must have been a missile built by Russians
damn i hate dennis
The soviet army also lost against said desert-dwelling goatfrickers, and they were a far better force for its time than the russian army is now
>underdog
>unlimited "black budget" support from the entire west
yeah, just like taiwan is "the underdog" right?
I remember when nato dropped off all the equipment on day two of the conflict. Good times.
>Unlimited support
>just like Taiwan is "the underdog"
yes, Taiwan is the underdog, it is a much smaller and weaker nation than the PRC after all
However Taiwan, like Ukraine, has friends
and that makes all the difference in the world
Black person how moronic are you. Ukraine has an excuse as it's not the supposed second most powerful nation in the world. Russia claimed it was that powerful nation yet issued literal Mosins to its troops. Ukraine, as they were fighting on the defensive for the first half of the war, needed to use anything it could possibly find to defend against the Russians until major Western support could arrive and thus yes, the argument of "if it shoots it's fine" applies. After all, Ukraine was supposed to be an incredibly weak country compared to Russia and the fact that Russia couldn't even take Kyiv despite the massive power difference is fricking hilarious to anyone not sucking Russias dick, as it confirms what many of us knew all along, that Russia would never have conventionally stood up to NATO if the Cold War had ever gone hot.
so you're mad about words? you sound like a woman.
>only comeback is "you mad bro" and doesn't try to dispute what I said
why do you think you deserve to be "disputed"? you're not relevant
Exactly! And neither are you! Or Russia in this case as actions speak more loudly than words. And Russia's inability to finish off Ukraine and in fact be pushed out of nearly all the territory it had originally taken speaks volumes as to its true position in the world. I bet the Chinks are already planning on how to divide up Russia and steal your women.
>seething this much
lmao
>Unironicly supporting Russia.
How does it feel to get raped by your squad mates vlad?
>Submarine
isn't ukraine supposed to lost most of their navy during 2014 crimea invasion?
>More than 20:1 in choppers
>More than 100:1 in aircrafts
I know a lot of that is for transport, training, observation, ect...
But damn, how do you end up stuck ?
That's enough air power that they Can afford to attack AA systems head on and win.
Russia can't afford to take significant losses. Making Russia frick itself up, is the goal of this conflict.
>Kyiv
Isn't it the other way around? Everyone acknowledges Kiev as the old spelling but some people get extremely angry when you say Kyiv.
Why does the word "Kyiv" trigger the chuggies so much?
you own it, you name it
>Maxim gun
A ww1 machine gun for a ww1 battlefield?! Color me shocked.
Modern machine gun are light to support a mobile platoon. It’s made for short bursts, and requires frequent change of the tube.
Now if you have a fixed position, in a trench, and have to fight a human wave or supress enemies under cover attacking you position, a ww1 machine gun is better. You can fire nearly non stop for an hour, and cool it with water, snow or pee.
>admits that strong russian army is the same as poorest european country's army
you cant make this shit up LMAO
Ukrainian nationalists weren't the ones spamming this board for the last ten (10) years about how strong they were and how they could totally take the west, about how their tanks were better than anything in NATO, about how the SU-57 could shoot down an F35 from the other side of the planet, and about how their ground pounders were better for having a higher tooth-to-tail ratio. That was all vatniks, and now you fricking AIDS monkeys have the nerve to wonder why most of /k/ hates your guts. Even if I was neutral on the issue of Ukraine's sovereignty and Russia trying to rebuild the USSR, but with more HIV, I'd still be rooting against Russia just because their shills are so damn annoying. Make like a good vatnik and die of AIDS.
>spamming this board for the last ten (10) years
take meds. anyone thats been here for the past decade knows tankies weren't a psyop but actual morons that believed what they said.
the modern mindset is to blame everything on high-level psyop groups instead of recognizing there are lots of stupid people that believe stupid things
>the modern mindset is to blame everything on high-level psyop groups instead of recognizing there are lots of stupid people that believe stupid things
Finally someone talks some sense in the pol infested modern PrepHole.
It's psyops AND people who are moronic. Case in point with /k/:
>feds and Ukrainian propagandists shitpost nonstop
>homosexuals who drank the kool-aid repost ad infinitum
>more homosexuals chime in to the shitposts thinking it is actual discussion
>anon's who actually know what they're talking about try to give a real take on the situation
>get's immediately blasted by both moronic sides being fed by literal feds and propagandists
>rinse repeat
"Psyops" is just a blanket term for anyone who disagrees with their schizo delusional bullshit.
I don't believe they were actually all paid shills all along, which is why I didn't call them that, but the fact remains that this board has been spammed by vatnik morons since the Clankening and Great Crimean Shitshow. That they did it FOR FREE LOLE doesn't make it less annoying.
I don't think anyone cares why they were here anon, I think the point is that they were here and they have been talking shit this entire time and now they need to shut the frick up because their precious Russian military has very publically proven itself to be worthless
You can spam a board without being paid
that machine gun is not to shoot Ukrainians, it's to shoot Russians who don't want to shoot Ukrainians, trust the plan!
My point is that not laughing at a mobik armed with a mosin and a Soviet era steel helmet is moronic.
The Ukrainians aren't the ones boasting about being the second best military on the planet, they're just ones defending their homeland with everything they can get, find, or given to.
but anon an M14 is still a magazine-fed rifle in a contemporary cartridge, even if it's not optimal. SKSs are functionally obsolete top-loading clip-fed rifles in an outdated cartridge.
>reddit war tourists doesn't know SKS's can have magazines too
imagine my shock
Not the ones given to DPR units.
FRICKING LMAO
cope harder Black person, next time post the bootleg LMG mosin from showdown and call it a contemporary firearm
Yes yes the chinese rifle mass issued by russia compared to other models.
yeah and mosin can have a pedersen device, doesnt make a semi auto rifle lol
Pic rel
>conveniently "forgets" the fricking Nuggets and hopes nobody remembers
We do remember, Vanya.
The US military used specialized m14’s in DMR roles up to very recently.
shut up gayass
M14s have been used in DMR roles in recent conflicts, pic related being from Fallujah in 2004.
None of these were created in 1800s?
you sound bullied
Based moronic chink with its useless factoid post.
moist nuggets were issued in the first fiew months, Granted, probably to rear line troops and it is perfectly capable of shooting boolets (when the opponet is a civilian facing the wall)
>russia issued its troops , a chenisium ak lookalike singleshot pelletgun (captured from vatniks by oinkers) pic related. Air rifle was Prolly the worst offender. Whoever carried it was better off with a mosin or even a makrmeshift BP pipegun
>rusted to shit aks given to russian conscripts stand right behind the airgun in corrupt russian shitbaggery. The mosin atleast has a big cartrige , shoots precisely and probably wont explode
The worst that russians have captured was an M14 that seems to he in good functional order (wood looks beaten up somewhat though)
Us army uses the m14 untill today in some capacity( no longer standard issue rifle), although modernised with "assaulting (my eyes) black furniture",
Hell the m3 greasegun has an impressive service record untill at least the gulf war.
TLDR: russia issued a fricking pelletgun
But then again, all those "captures" could be a psy op
>TLDR: russia issued a fricking pelletgun
You'd have to be pretty moronic to believe that.
i'm surprised that poor conscript got anything at all...
Checked and /k/ is clinically fricking braindead didn't you see the flying creature rock drop thread, or the grenade genera praise?
It could be
> Looted airgun to bring home or shoot some cans with the boys when bored between shellings (prolly the most likely one)
>brought from home from recreation , dunno if they can do that though
>A corrupt quartermaster (or whoever issues weapons in the russian army) replacing the ak he sold off , or he just hated that Pvt consript conscriptovich conscriptivski.
It seems to have never seen cosmoline so it might be
1 someones attic airgun
2 came from a badly run depo
3has seen a lot of moisture and mud like if it was carried in the field so its chinesium grade bluing just could not take it
The "sling" indicates it was meant to be carried by its "possible" previous owners or solders
Also airsoft helmets were found in a russian supply depo so it wouldnt suprise me. So quite possible that it was issued IMO
>a ukie psyop meticulously crafting the narative that russia is an incompetent and a corrupt shithole. All of it from airshit helmets to airguns
Pick whichever conberns your biases
Ukraine doesn't claim to be a superpower or the second strongest army.
US donated a shitload of M14’s to Ukraine I think before the invasion. They mostly go to territorial defense units. Probably a good use for them since they’ve been sitting in army warehouses for decades.
Honestly would have been a better use to give them to me.
>a fricking leaf
Yeah try getting a mag for it, Ivan.
>russian mercenaries have a better chance getting an M240 than american citizens
what a load of shit
Get some money
https://www.impactguns.com/semi-automatic-rifles/ohio-ordnance-works-m240-slr-7-62-nato-20-barrel-m13-links-bipod-custom-fitted-case-additional-accessories-12976814slr-12976814-slr
>semi-automatic-rifles
kek
glowie
>incels in charge of reasoning
>Federal agents are making everyone hate Russians on /k/
>It's totally not the way we shit up the place, troll, post gore, mock dead children and call everyone glowies
I just want to talk about weapons you stupid yuropoor
Post guns
now you're backpedaling
>lose dozen of tanks
>get small arms in return
Think of all the goofy as frick "nat0-zoo" gear Wagner™ must find lol.
some quadruple-felon cannibal finds a stick he doesnt recognize, and turns it into command, kek, its a Garand™ or something embarrassing like that
>commander yells at you during your daily gaping session to find proof that they are fighting NATO giga-Black person-mecha-Hitler HIV augmented hypersoldiers
>only western gear he found was a 240 bravo and a fricking garand
>still presents it
This is the sims 3 cards levels of incompetency
So
Anons
These are russians
Holding stuff from ukrainians
Ukrainians fighting on the outskirts of the city =/= maintaining control of the city. Soledar has fallen.
>City
Village
Here let me spell it out for you in your own moronese:
>Not holding the village = not holding the village.
>semantics
Quit sperging and take your ritalin
Stfu vatBlack person, you are losing the war.
Quit sperging and take Soledar. Oh wait, that's right, you can't.
Living?
>the only moderate military success in this entire war is due to something that's not even in the Russian military
Friendly reminder that Prigozhin via his media empire has embarked on a large scale program to raise his profile. All the bodies in Soledar were lost so that a guy could better larp as a military commander.
2000 of his men just took over the democratic republic of the congo. Seems pretty based
>ywn be a soldier of fortune in front of a parade of African qts
why live
Hahaha, never going to happen. The DRC is quicksilver. There is no government. No one is in charge. Tsekedi is a stuffed shirt, just like Kabila.
And a few gayner guys aren't going to put an end to M23. They can't be wiped out unless they invade Rwanda, and that's not happening.
Maybe Belgium made a mistake leaving the Congo
How crazy do you think Russia would get if he manages to steal the throne from Putin?
>PMC vs military
>PMC kicks ass
this is literally like my animes
nothing new.
Prigozhin is a basic b***h compared with peak EO/Sandline/Ibis or Mike Hoare
>PMC licks ass
That's just Russians in general.
VDV are a PMC?
Isn't VDV non existent?
When I turn 21 I want to be like Wagner not some fricking homosexuals larping in Ukraine who got obliterated by some Russian shells
I strongly encourage you to join Wagner.
>living
>dreaming
Anon, wagner isn't doing either of those.
>disgusting Russian shits have their claws on my precious GPMG
Tie me to the ballistic missile, I’m ready
Dying in human wave attacks?
How big is Wagner?
Then go join them, c**t.
Living the dream = losing another su24, a lost of manpower and a ton of IFV, but look ma' I looted some small arms
Kek worthy trade for sure
Chances are that I'm a lot whiter than (you).
For sure they are, stealing achievements of other military units so hard everyone forgot about the tiktok chenchens.
Damn, i just remember that kadyrov and his chechen brigade existed. Isn't bakhmut front is the perfect place for them. I mean they are supposed to be storm troopers right?
If you think Russia is "storming" Bakhmut, you're ngmi. They are building a cauldron like they've done 100 times in this war
A cauldron you say?
>picrel is cauldron
I lol'd!
Absolutely amazing
is cauldron
2 dicks is more than 1 butthole
wagner quintuple-sex-offenders care not, me thinks
>don't go on /k/ for a full week
>Russians are literally still going on about Bakhmut
holy shit they still haven't taken it or come up with a new strategy? How moronic are they?
Russia sits back and grinds down thousands of Ukrainians for days on end. Unironically calls this moronic
Yeah seems pretty fricking moronic. They should try capturing the country and winning the war instead of sitting in a losing stalemate.
>They should try capturing the country
And lose thousands like the Ukrainians over land they will retake later?
If the fighting forces were at full strength Ukraine would've deployed 86k into that little box alone. The Ukrainians should've given up Bakhmut a month ago instead of sending troops into an artillery hot spot
When Ukraine loses this war, I would re-evaluate your sources and life choices
Thank you fren. It was a lot of work
>And lose thousands
You do that every day, pidorashka, it's kind of embarrassing to watch. Is there no word for self respect in Russian? You're a constant source of cringe.
As with everything that comes out of a kacap's mouth, this is the opposite of reality.
Let me break it down for you
>The largest Ukrainian element participating in the defense of Bakhmut is regiment sized, with a maximum of 2000 men
>The largest Russian element participating in the assault on Bahkmut is Corps sized, with a maximum of 90,000 men
>In the Russian army, soldiers who retreat without orders are severely punished, with some Russian soldiers even being summarily executed for "cowardice"
>The Russian army has been launching continuous attacks against the Ukrainian defenses at Bahkmut for seven months
>The Russian army has not successfully captured the town of Bahkmut
In order for all of the things listed above to be true, the Russian attackers must be suffering massively disproportionate casualties relative to the Ukrainian defenders at Bakhmut
There is simply no other possible explanation that can be drawn from the available evidence
Yes, all while losing tens of thousands for days on end. Sounds pretty fricking moronic.
i'm losing track of all these cauldrons
What are all you trannies on /k/ going to do when Russia btfo's Ukraine within the next month? I might come to /k/ and gloat all the time, but I don't have any of the israelite death porn folders so maybe I'll just post Z's everywhere. I can't believe you fricking clowns think Russia ever came close to losing this war. I thought /k/ was based before the war, and man I am glad you fricking morons showed up for Ukraine, otherwise I might've been israeliteed myself.
hahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahha, go sign up for Ukraine you losers.
OK Satan
>within the next month
Lets just wait for the 2 day victory predicted by Russians at the beginning of the war. Russia is fricking pathetic, even for a Slavic ex-Soviet shithole, they're a joke..
bros, can someone give me an up to date US invades Mexico pasta
>Wagner is living the dream right now
Is this a dream where they regain consciousness in a muddy ditch with their ears ringing and both legs blown off?
Gang beating
Gang raping
Gang raping by chechens
Being used as meat to fill nomans land...
Sounds as really kinky dream to me ;3
Based. /k/opers are just jelly they cannot be raped, frozen to near death and die in a mass suicide human wave.
post soledar
post optyne
post mariupol
post donbass front
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~
>post soledar
Yeah, why don't you post it? Just two more weeks and you'll finally take it, right?
I remember when this list had "Kherson" on it.
shame annoying people on the internet doesn't bring victory t b h
denying reality doesn't bring victory either
TWO
MORE
WEEKS
dunno what i'm supposed to have denied
Based you are brown poster.
The rule of vatnik: anyone posting pro russian propaganda is 25% chance to be a serb, 50% chance to be from india or pakistan or a delusional commy or qtard.
Inb4 muh world economic forum
How is Ukraine losing despite the world support?
nonce
And I am yet to get an answer
it speaks to the quality of the question
you're not looking for answers homosexual vatnig
Please present Kherson
Kys Hewie
Where is that image from? Now i am curious
>How is Ukraine losing despite the world support?
the police show up a lot faster if you tell them you already had to kill several people vs. just saying theres an angry mob outside
They aren't. Deal with it, vatBlack person.
One side is throwing everything available into its survival, the other is trying to compete with NATO.
Dying in the thousands over single miles of ground is a pretty weird dream, man.
https://streamable.com/5w2g61
>Soledar is ou-ACK!