>Devastating high-value targets in rear, no effective counter.
>Rumors of Russian acquisition of Caesar/HIMARS are "complete schizophrenia."
>"Proofs" video of HIMARS destruction was some log truck.
>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
reverse side of the medal is not an official wagner group telegram channel. it's just some random russkie.
there is nothing official about wagner, that's the point
>PMC based out od literally any country
>"official"
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.
>"Us lying to ourselves"
>Us
>Ourselves
Judging by the language feels like whoever originally posted this is either a part of the Russian government our mistakenly believes that Wagner is indistinct from the Russian government (which is mostly true).
Telegram link?
do you have a longer version, i am definitely going to read 2 or more essay screenshots. this is the quality content i come to /k/ for.
>he won't read my wall of demoralization text
vatnik detected
stop being sarcastic this is PrepHole only serious posts are appreciated
Sorry Anonymous but this is actually PrepHole? And we are all in agreement that Russia is evil. Who is being sarcastic? We need to make sure that everyone is in agreement on this sub, no vatniks allowed.
these gay posts just make me want to see dead russians even more
that's nice. personally i can't wait until midterms so we can go back to exclusively funding our greatest ally instead. i have a really good feeling about the next proxy war vs iran
Didnt we just sign up for another round of licking KSA and Israel taint? Its like the ONE bi-partisan shit remaining, outside of putting warheads on vatnik foreheads
SHUT IT DOWN
If, truly, the bulk of Russia's problems come from them lying to themselves, then for once I hope they keep doing it.
>since to seriously believe that someone on the internet would write about an unfinished deal, reveal the entire scheme, data on the sellers and buyers, and at the same time hope for the conclusion of the deal, it is all complete schizophrenia
Kek, poor fricker has never been on /k/, /misc/ or Twitter, it seems
>Devastating high-value targets in rear, no effective counter.
Cool, we should send more.
of Russian acquisition of Caesar/HIMARS are "complete schizophrenia."
>Be Yukrop
>Get bright idea to sell American weapons to the Russians
>Send the emails
>[SANITIZED]
>Show up to sale point
>Greeted by [SANITIZED].
>[SANITIZED]
>Commit suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head twice
>HIMARS reappears at base, odometer unchanged.
As a Ukrainian, shoot those frickers. After we finish with the physical Russians, we need to weed out the tankies.
Ukro-Polish right wing HATO deathsquads when??
>hello Mr. Glowie, I was wondering if you've seen my freind...
>Thats classified
>but I didn't tell you who I was looking for!
>still classified, now frick off or we'll classify you as well
>It is complete schizophrenia
>It was a log truck
>Never trust 4 pixel videos
OH NO NO NO MONGOLBROS
Do those dazzlers/whatever even do anything against IR shit that isn't from the 70s?
not as far as anyone can tell, no
The idea of the dazzlers is to drown out ATGM launcehrs beam, so the missile would loose guidanance. It could work against something liek a Faktoria or homosexual, but it also makes you into a massive target for anyone sportin a pair of NVG goggles.
the funniest thing about the le evil eyes is that they only really work against their own atgms, while the west mostly uses wire guidance.
even better: against the stugna its also almost useless because all the teams basically only laze the tanks at the last moment
ackshually TOW uses wire to connect actuators in missile to the control unit.
There is an IR flare in the missile that is used by the control unit to track missile, so there is no reason why shtora shouldn't work against older western missiles like TOW 1 or MILAN.
Stugna has laser active for all the time missile spent in the air, there is even 'laser emission active' warning on the screen.
>so there is no reason why shtora shouldn't work against older western missiles like TOW 1
are there even any TOW 1's left? TOW 2 is like 40 years old now so it I doubt there's be any 1's still serviceable since they only have a 20 year shelf life and we phased out in the 90's so seems like a moot point
there's a reason they didn't put shtora on the t-90m
Stupid but related question: wire guided is literally WIRE guided? Meaning there's like 5 kilometers of wire attached to each missile? That seems looney-tunes impossible
After firing, the wire is just discarded in place, and there's going to be kilometers of wires laying around when the conflict ends?
yeah, literally spools of copper wire. it got replaced with fiber optic eventually.
but isn't a 5 fricking kilometer long spool of wire going to be some big huge ball? How small is this wire?!
all i could find was a paper from the hughes aircraft corporation describing it as "hair-thin"
Well, a standard spool of fishing line meant for a reel is usually 1500yds, so you can basically work out the rest from there
It's really thin wire
thanks for the answers lads
I didnt know it was an actual long as frick wire too. Thanks for asking 🙂
This is fricking ludicrouits the funniest thing I've heard since I learned that that Japanese dude who got melted into a puddle by radiation was named "Ouchi"
yeah, theres usually a cable spool in either the base of the missile or in its launcher housing that uncoils as the missile travels, in this vid you get a good look at one kind of TOW
They were. It was the easiest way to protect the system from enemy jamming. And if you think that's crazy, wire-guided torpedoes did exactly the same thing, but with something like 10+ MILES of cable on the spool.
These days, most of the newest stuff is either fire-and-forget or uses encrypted frequency-hopping radio links that are hard to DF, spoof, or jam. The US supplier of copper wire went out of business, so a few years ago the army actually had to launch a crash program to replace the wires on the remaining TOWs in service with radio links (fortunately, these had already been developed for the top-attack TOW-2B model). Also, the Israelis use miles-long fiber-optic cables on certain models of the Spike, which allows the operator to launch blind at a reported target, fly the missile up high, and then find the target on a screen using the feed from the missile's camera. The US had a plan to do this a long time ago (FOGM), but it got cancelled repeatedly, along with most of the other high-tech anti-armor toys after the end of the Cold War.
There were videos from Syria of shtora working against what appeared to be either TOW or one of the TOW knockoffs made by countries like Iran. The missile approached the tank, and suddenly veered off high into the sky.
Obviously, this doesn't work against modern IIR seekers like Javelin or Spike. A DIRCM laser jammer would work, but I'm not aware of any that have been fitted to tanks as of yet. Thermal smoke would probably be the best countermeasure, but as we've seen so many times over the last couple decades, nobody ever seems to remember to pop smoke, not even the IDF.
> nobody ever seems to remember to pop smoke
The only use of smoke I've seen this damn conflict is one Russian tank uses - get this - the fricking engine smoke generator, not even the nades. I haven't seen any use of WP, smoke shells, and there's only been one big example of dedicated smoke generators with that Crimean Bridge exercise
no NVG I can understand, the near total absence of smoke from footage is bizarre
Doesn't work on modern TOW2s due to the modulated encoded reference flare and multibad emissions.
>Loose guidance
>Loose
It's "lose" you illiterate frick.
Cute owl.
Frick, now cant unsee the derpy eyes.
These guys became such hohil shills wtf?
when the lies get legitimately too stupid for the guys who got ran out of africa
>When your rentboy-army has a better grasp of reality than your shillfarms
I'd expect as much, but still..
>shot down a third of the missiles
Translation
>they are bombing us completely unopposed, but if I don't add this legally mandated propaganda piece I will get raped in gulag forever
as usual
IMAO
>Zabivaka
Gay lil ape furries. Good apesuits.
There's a huge prevalent bestiality community in Russia and a bunch of Russian zoophile furry artists.
nice photoshop homosexual
Very poorly done shoop. The original has been around so long that anyone who isn't a total newbie would know it was an edited image, let alone in edited image that was done by an amateur. Try again homosexual.
Even Wagner is calling /chug/posters schizos. I feel vindicated.
Wagner seems to be the most competent arm of the Russian military. And even then they got fricking raped by the US military
>And generally, for the future, if you see glued up frames, low-quality filming from and UAV (we don't have others yet), where nothing apart from pixels and something smoldering can be seen, which requires you to fantasize- consider the information to be untrue.
Cope. We already nabbed M270s glowing piggy.
homie, thats the fricking Curiosity Rover
No, it's actually a C&C vehicle, the humvee I think, with some flames put over it.
https://cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Rocket_launcher_(Tiberian_Dawn)
(with flames)
there we go. thanks.
I have been playing command and conquer since 1996. You were both idiots. The absolute closest thing even resembling that image is the AA Humvee from C&C generals.
I genuinely hope you are legally blind because otherwise you are complete idiots.
can i get a hit of your crack pipe?
bro?
I assume he is pretending to be moronic to mimic the standard discussions.
>C&C unit with fire effects on top and false monochrome
Is this a false flag?
>>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
basically this, i mean if you ONLY listen to russian propaganda, russia never lost anything
>we werent pushed out of Kyiv, it was a feint
>the Moskva wasnt sunk by Ukrainian missiles, it was sunk by a SMOOOOKER
>we left Snake Island as a sign of goodwill
>no the hohols didnt plant a flag in Snake Island, we bombed them before they did it, even tough the Ukrainians published a video in which they clearly planted the flag
its so childish and this collective delusion probably led them to make stupid decisions, such as the entire initial invasion plan
This is what you get when your news is based on lying. You start having to tell larger and larger lies. There's no way to return to reality. Eventually you have to explain who you've gone from glorious victory to glorious victory but also the French are walking into the Ruhr/the Soviets are outside Berlin/you're still miles from Kyiv and the Ukrainians aren't about to stop fighting any time soon.
Ironic, since most of what he said is lies.
Kneel.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Id fill her with my DP(P)ICM, if you know what i mean
I'd reload her tubes
Is Ukrainan a ethnicity or a religion?
Neither. It doesn't exist.
itt, vatBlack folk can't meme
>Religion
>A binding to a divine belief system
Are you genuinely illiterate or just confused?
Y my pp hard?
Please destroy my supply depot, my Queen! I beg of you as your lowly slave!
I want to eat salo out of her butthole
If they don't put this on the side of one of them I will be very disappointed.
stop sexualizing everything, and just go have real sex
noh
I'd giver her my 500lb WDU-18/B penetrating high explosive blast fragmentation warhead if you know what I mean
>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
Yes. And no dictatorship is able to fix this because the whole system foundation consists of lies and corruption.
Hawt
Just did and my cute 21 year old girlfriend is getting ready for breakfast
Is no one noticing that the vatnik stated there are roughly 16 systems active?
Who knows what else is going on out there
>russians
>intelligence
>statements
Yeah wtf 16? I thought they had 4 or 6.
It's entirely possible the US sent more than they officially confirmed.
That number might also include the M270. Or it might be completely fabricated since how would Russians know the exact number of the units and they like to cope about these things.
i hope the next jannie has /k/ as his pet board
>US state run propaganda reports, citing people familiar with whitness who have talked to people who have heard US officials speak of documents they have seen
Amerimutt bugmen actually believe this
What the frick are you talking about
damn, outsourcing the shill farms to ghana did really made a dent in shill quality
Wagner is a US government entity, didn't you know?
We can't have those russians fooling about with an ACTUAL mercenary company, the might hurt someone
Yep, it’s in English, not really sure what it says though. Some type of Pidgin, maybe?
western fricks believe any crap that is flowing about, Im not saying decrepit culture is not rubbing on some idiots here too, but we have government that will quantificate reality and verificate & confirm information.. you need patients and wait for official story to repeat. this is something america lacks
considering the system HIMARS and CEASAR, they are complete systems that do the job.. with nato spreadsheet even monky can use it, such as the bandits of the kiev government. this will end the same as when america supplied to mujahideen through CIA AGENT osama bin laden.. for all involved it is better to stop supplying
>but we have government that will quantificate reality and verificate & confirm information..
>..
ESL
also lol
In english, doc.
Also if you think feedback doesn't exist for western officials you are fricking delusional.
Obviously CIA has been pretending to be rabid vatniks to spread disinfo
>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
Gee, only took 4 months for ONE of them to actually realise this.
Wagner is upset that they've been ousted as a bottom-of-the-barrel moron organization so of course they are going to go full doomer and declare anything and everything as fake because they themselves are coping.
Wagner is a HATO asset
Wagner is a moron organization that takes in military rejects and people too stupid to have prospects after their conscription is over. But they think that they could take on any power in the world. So when they get assblasted in every recent conflict they assume that any accomplishment that wasn't theirs must be a lie, no matter how tiny like taking out 1 HIMARS that feasibly accomplishes nothing in itself.
According to the Brits' intel they actually seem to be among the most competent and effective forces in the Russian military right now. They were apparently instrumental in taking Popasna and Lysychansk and I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible for the Russians capturing part of Pokrovske near Bakhmut earlier today. Perhaps their previous combat experience in Syria and elsewhere informs their apparently more realistic, semi-doomer attitude.
I bet you could get Wagner group ejected from the battle space if you falsified enough social media posts from "wagner staff" talking about how fricked the whole operation is.
>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
...an actually self-aware vatnik. I think we found a unicorn.
>"The bulk of our problems is due to us fricking lying to ourselves!"
This is literally the core of Russia's many, many issues. Literally nobody has any incentive to tell the truth. It is a throne of lies.