videogame gun gore

>completely butchers all of your favorite guns because of a recent california law that basically says real guns in video games are advertisements for guns and thus illegal

have fun with yout shitty mishmashed fantasy bs guns I guess?

general video game gun gore thread btw

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So how is that feature in mw2 is it worth the $? Can you really make whatever gun you can imagine?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can you really make any gun you can imagine?
      no. you can put a long barrel and fixed stock on an AR and call it a "sniper" or a short barrel and telescoping stock on an AR and call it an "SMG" but it will still act the exact same. also most of the attachments, barrels stocks etc. are completely made up and rarely have a real life counterpart.

      <<</vg/

      >thread about weapons in media
      >thread about the politics surrounding weapons being in media
      it's more of a PrepHole thread than your endless shitty Ukraine shilling threads

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be honest if you want to feel/see the impact of the weapon modifications on your gun COD MW is the best, tarkov fails to deliver any meaningfull experience outside from the modding menu.

      >can you really make any gun you can imagine?
      no. you can put a long barrel and fixed stock on an AR and call it a "sniper" or a short barrel and telescoping stock on an AR and call it an "SMG" but it will still act the exact same. also most of the attachments, barrels stocks etc. are completely made up and rarely have a real life counterpart.
      [...]
      >thread about weapons in media
      >thread about the politics surrounding weapons being in media
      it's more of a PrepHole thread than your endless shitty Ukraine shilling threads

      In the old MW you could put all kinds of stuff on guns from subsonic ammo and integral supressors to stiffend springs for better firerate and even CT ammo.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    <<</vg/

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the fuck cares no gun?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is cringe, the modern warfare series does justice to guns and gun culture.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut the fuck up cod baby.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then what’s the fucking Op? He’s whining about CoD you fucking retard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >DONT DISRESPECT MY COWADOODY!
          shut up, gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sound like the baby here.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > recent california law that basically says real guns in video games are advertisements for guns and thus illegal
    No fucking way

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fantasy guns
    Been a thing for a while, but largely due to game publications not wanting to be sued or pay for licensing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      acti/blizz doesn't care. they've got billions of dollars to spend on licencing. they got real names and models for the last modern warfare 2019, and the last black ops too iirc. it's because of the new law

      https://i.imgur.com/O2CGN8r.png

      > recent california law that basically says real guns in video games are advertisements for guns and thus illegal
      No fucking way

      yes way. Google "assembly bill 2571"

      if that's too much work let me tldr it for you:

      >A firearm industry member shall not advertise, market, or arrange for placement of an advertising or marketing communication concerning any firearm-related product in a manner that is designed, intended, or reasonably appears to be attractive to minors.
      this is classified as:
      >[...]Offers brand name merchandise for minors, including, but not limited to, hats, t-shirts, or other clothing, or toys, GAMES, or stuffed animals, that promotes a firearm industry member or firearm-related product.

      now cod is an M for mature game, but i think they just wanna really cover their asses.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >acti/blizz doesn't care. they've got billions of dollars to spend on licencing. they got real names and models for the last modern warfare 2019, and the last black ops too iirc. it's because of the new law
        Doesn't matter, they don't want to be sued by weapon manufacturers. Old MW2 had the devs be sued because they used the actual military hummvee. Its just a way to avoid getting grift on by opportunistic companies abusing copyright laws.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit, you're a retard. Stop posting. There is no such thing as a gun "license"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This isn't the reason. COD has been fucking up its guns for years, long preceding this law. Even when it literally had licensed Remington products in MW3 it fucked them up. The reason is twofold:

        > The guns in MW2 are more on-model than before, so more needs to be done to avoid potential trademark infringement
        > Fucking up the guns makes them stand out better from a sea of monotonous and shitty game arsenals

        The bottom line is that it's unlikely the California law will affect most games because if it were interpreted the way you're suggesting, the vast majority of action games would be illegal in California, which would be insane. They just can't arrange product placements with gun companies any more - which they used to do.
        Curious to see how this applies to Tarkov, a game which actually does have official gun company collaborations, but is a very mature and serious game that could be argued to have little appeal to children. Most of its playerbase are adults. Either way, I imagine the courts will likely side more towards creators as any potential 1st Amendment violation ia a big deal.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tarkov doesn't have gun company contributions, they just don't give a fuck. Plenty of indie games do the same.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            EG, "Squad" has trademarked names and proper depictions of most of it's weapons. I think it's really just down to developer fiat rather than some actual legal issue.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They do. See the Tarkov official Insta and the Kalashnikov Media Youtube. Kalashnikov lets the Tarkov guys shoot on their range with their weapons. LOBAEV also allows them to use the DVL-10. Most of the guns and parts are indeed trademark infringement - HK and Glock never license to media - but there are in fact gun company promotions in the game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ah, I was figuring US companies for some reason. Well, as you can see right

              https://i.imgur.com/gan0bze.png

              EG, "Squad" has trademarked names and proper depictions of most of it's weapons. I think it's really just down to developer fiat rather than some actual legal issue.

              Squad still has all the proper names and likenesses. "HK 417" is trademark and obviously so is Elcan.

              https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:ik8tig.3.1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A firearm industry member shall not advertise, market, or arrange for placement of an advertising or marketing communication concerning any firearm-related product in a manner that is designed, intended, or reasonably appears to be attractive to minors.
        But activision is not a firearm industry though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This bill does not seem to mention video games, the only way that a gun depicted in a video game would qualify under this bill is if the manufacturer paid the dev to feature it in the game (instead of just licensing/copying it)
        Also legally I think the fact that MA/M ratings are 17+ creates a bit of a conundrum for vidya manufacturers because 18 is the age of majority in most places.

        This isn't the reason. COD has been fucking up its guns for years, long preceding this law. Even when it literally had licensed Remington products in MW3 it fucked them up. The reason is twofold:

        > The guns in MW2 are more on-model than before, so more needs to be done to avoid potential trademark infringement
        > Fucking up the guns makes them stand out better from a sea of monotonous and shitty game arsenals

        The bottom line is that it's unlikely the California law will affect most games because if it were interpreted the way you're suggesting, the vast majority of action games would be illegal in California, which would be insane. They just can't arrange product placements with gun companies any more - which they used to do.
        Curious to see how this applies to Tarkov, a game which actually does have official gun company collaborations, but is a very mature and serious game that could be argued to have little appeal to children. Most of its playerbase are adults. Either way, I imagine the courts will likely side more towards creators as any potential 1st Amendment violation ia a big deal.

        >The bottom line is that it's unlikely the California law will affect most games because if it were interpreted the way you're suggesting, the vast majority of action games would be illegal in California, which would be insane. They just can't arrange product placements with gun companies any more - which they used to do.
        it is hard to see California being more anti-gun than they are pro-media.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hollywood is located in California, which means any movie rated PG-13 couldn't have a gun in it according to this law. It's meaningless and unenforceable. Fuck that gay state.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they can as long as it looks generic or they don't make a big deal out of it they would be fine. it's if they go like "I'm going to use my FN five seven and my HK mp5 to stop the bad guy!" or "wow is that a colt 1911" or whatever is where the issues would arrise.
            that being said, the garden gnomes in charge of commiefornia know that Hollywood is one of the states biggest source of income, so I'm sure they would look the other way for their director buddies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bill does not seem to mention video games
          >literally capitalized the word GAMES and you somehow missed it
          unless you want to argue that games means only and exclusively traditional tabletop games? because I'm sure a California lawyer or judge would care about the difference. plus it says including but NOT limited to. so even if it meant exclusively tabletop games and not video games, they left the door open to go after anything else they want, including videogames.

          also i agree that there would be a kind of legal protection with the game being sold as a rated M game, but that being said I'm more than sure that a California lawyer would be more than happy to try to challenge that in court by saying that since it's sold along side other E for everyone games, they are still marketing to children or some other bullshit. you need to remember that historically California courts will always side with the Anti gun stance.
          I'm sure that actiblizz would want nothing more than to even avoid having to delay/pull back/modify a game after release, and not to mention pay a fuckton of money for their lawyer teams if it DID go to court, even if they knew they would win in the end.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unconstitutional bullshit. Hopefully some loud mouthed Mexican or crypto conservative Asian gets this shit undone. They're at this point the only demographics in the state who can get away with calling this shit out because White liberals can't pull the race card on them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gun "licensing"
      No such thing, gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit, you're a retard. Stop posting. There is no such thing as a gun "license"

        Licensing for the use of the design, not the gun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Show us this gun "license" in practice, retard. Show us FN, Colt or any other manufacturer issuing a license to a fucking video game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit, you're a retard. Stop posting. There is no such thing as a gun "license"

        Dumb morons, the design/name is trademarked and subjected to copyright. Weapon manufacturers tried to force big game companies to pay up for the use of design/name.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Really? show us se examples then in real life you dumb moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The company that manufactured the HMMWV tried to sue Activision for using their vehicle in the game. Although the case was lost.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Humvees aren't guns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, but the ruling basically applies the same way. Basically the judge ruled that since Humvees were used in the army, making a game about the army without humvees would have been incomplete. Purely functional designs do not receive copyright protection - all military items are assumed to be designed only for functionality in mind - and so the case was fought and won on trademark grounds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But it still applies to guns and weapons in general. Weapons manufacturers can sue for the usage of their products in the game if they want to because its within their right to do so.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can sue anyone for anything. I doubt gun manufacturers would do that because their products are featured in COD, since it's pretty much the best free advertising for firearms in the world.

                I'm 90% sure the real reason why COD has stopped using the real names of guns is because it benefits their social media influencers. Now people who want to find a youtube video about the best MP5 builds for COD don't have to search youtube for "MP5" and see a bunch of videos about the real MP5. They just search for "Sneed FNS5" or whatever the fake name of the gun is that's exclusive to this particular new COD game to find only relevant videos.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most gun manufacturers won't. But I know military vehicle manufacturers are becoming bitches in terms of how companies depict their vehicles in games.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh and the ironic part is that the Hummer EV is, as part of a promotional tie in, going to be in Warzone 2, which releases in about two weeks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Show us this gun "license" in practice, retard. Show us FN, Colt or any other manufacturer issuing a license to a fucking video game.

        https://www.theverge.com/2013/5/8/4311300/electronic-arts-distances-itself-from-gun-manufacturers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where is the "license" in this article you stupid gay? EA just said they aren't going to asl the gun companies for support.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It said it won't pay the manufacturers for the depiction of the weapons in question.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          EA doesn't make COD.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >completely butchers all of your favorite cars because of common sense that basically says real cars in video games are advertisements for cars and thus developers can get sued

    have fun with your shitty halfassed fantasy cars I guess? also I will continue to whine on the internet about dumb shit nobody else cared about in 2001 and the world kept turning and games still sold millions of copies

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow thats really fucking gay. Gott Strafe California

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    P90 is the only gun in the game that got shredded that way, all the others are pretty much fine with at most some differences in furniture.

    Just look at https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_II_(2022)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shotguns butchered
      >basically all smgs butchered
      >the 4 pistols in the game aren't but still have issues that make them look like a mishmash of different pistols (for example the g18 is a mishmash of glock17 gen3 and Glock 19 gen 5, and is technically closer to a g17 that's been (illegally) modified to shoot full auto than an actual g18)

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >California
    will somebody please glass that Hell hole already?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't sell in California, easy. Now I am big CEO.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the company is still based in cuckifornia, you'd have to move your entire HQ and employees to anywhere else. employees that overwhelmingly vote blue and hate that civilians are allowed to own guns and believe they should be strictly for the military.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    California has nothing to do with it, they just don't want to pay licensing fees. What, you think a game as big as CoD gets to use trademarked and patented weapon systems for free?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Patents protect products, not designs. Gun designs are not protected by copyright, as their appearance is entirely functional. Gun engravings or custom paint schemes can be protected by copyright, though. The issue is trademark infringement; using the shape and name of a real gun may constitute such.

      >acti/blizz doesn't care. they've got billions of dollars to spend on licencing. they got real names and models for the last modern warfare 2019, and the last black ops too iirc. it's because of the new law
      Doesn't matter, they don't want to be sued by weapon manufacturers. Old MW2 had the devs be sued because they used the actual military hummvee. Its just a way to avoid getting grift on by opportunistic companies abusing copyright laws.

      Activision won the suit. See above.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was case studying protective orders that prevent possession of firearms and on the surface it looks like a good idea, because abusers could hurt abused women. But in practice the people that initiate those laws say its "common sense gun control" meaning they are anti gun lobbyists and want to strip the 2nd amendment, and once you get a law like that established, they start trying to fill family courts with blue haired psychos to immediately issue permanent protective orders to anyone that wants one, while adjudicating family court on the side. I mean this is why we can have nice things, and need to repeal those laws due to chronic and systematic abuse by anti rights advocates.

    For the record I have not been adjudicated in family court or had a protective order placed against me, but thats part of the problem to say "oh well were mormons so thats not my problem" and part of cuckservatism.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even The church Of LDS are not safe. Since some will inevitably convince them that Ted Cruz is le bad guy and their 17 yr old rebellious daughter will seek a protective order to avoid contact and some judge will jump at the chance to issue a permanent protective order.

      Same thing for a nasty divorce since the judge and your ex wife are now working in concert out of spite to permanently erode your rights. Because any one that wants a gun is a psycho self evident by their support of the bill of rights.

      Then these same people are deciding, in family court, rules on whether your 4 yr old needs to take HRT or does free speech really mean "free"?? for whatever reason and we sit here and wonder what happened and how it all ended up like this. Because no one stood up. Everyone was afraid to look like the guy that said "yeah I think abusive men should get guns and go shoot their ex girlfriends" by opposing that erosion and systematic abuse of a family court.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then consider the Orthodox Church and abandon the heresy of Joseph Smith, anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would want to be accepted into the fold of Mormonism, But Im a sperg, and would ruin it, since I would never keep my mouth shut about the lies of Joseph Smith. And I dont think Orthodox is the way either. I just used mormons as an example since they seemed most immune to a family court proceeding where they upsell the permanent protective orders. Since theyre ran by anti gun lobbys like Moms demand action.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mormons seem immune to family drama
            >t. never so much as seen a Mormon IRL

            gas yourself chud

            Go 1 single week without talking about trannies.
            1 single week. Can you do that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >orthodox
          They’re about as orthodox as the Coptic’s. Russian Orthodox is a joke and the Greek is not any better.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dumb frogposter
        >Believing Mr. Goldplates
        >Obsessing over trannies
        I remember when the internet wasn't full of you people and it was a lot more fun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gas yourself chud

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cry more about it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're the one forming your identity around dumb shit. I'm just a guy on the internet who knows you're dumb.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Video game guns are dumb because of some new California shit
    LOL.
    LMAO, even.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ironic
    At one point in the game's story you're decked out and go assault something, i didn't really pay attention.
    But what i DID notice is that my fucking rifle had a 10 round magazine.
    TEN FUCKING ROUNDS
    I picked up something that was supposed to be an HK MP7 and it had 20 rounds in it, a bit more acceptable, and since caliber ballistics didnt mean shit i just used that instead

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just nuke russia and let them nuke california in retaliation, two problems will be solved at once

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    posting the classic

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Vogal

    I am atleast happy a lot of games are allowing deeper weapon modding that goes beyond sights suppressors and grips. Its getting a lot of people interested in the firearms world even if the guns are a bit mogged.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >deeper weapon modding beyond sights suppressor's and grips
      man... have you actually played the game? it's literally just sights suppressor's and grips. i think the only thing you can change that you couldn't before is the barrel maybe?
      you cant change the trigger system, can't change buffer tube lengths or anything actually cool and "deep". it's still just optics, silencers (or muzzle devices in general), and grips.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Vogal

        There's barrels and stocks, ammo types, full body stocks. It's not crazy, but it's something to get normies interested

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >retards arguing over retarded garden gnome “laws”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >retarded
      Wait until you get to Japanese copyright laws.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >*dog gets shot*
      >*gets arrested*
      >B-but these are dumb garden gnome laws, they're not real!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not dying in the shootout with the police
        ngmi

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dying
          ngmi

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