Vehicles in Ukraine: M117 ASV

First open public documentation of M117 armored security vehicles in Ukraine. Skala battalion has them in both Correct and Mistake paintjobs.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Caius

    woodland
    original https://files.catbox.moe/gmgavk.mp4
    cropped https://files.catbox.moe/gq4toq.mp4

    sand
    original https://files.catbox.moe/55tdil.mp4
    +weird tiktok hevc https://files.catbox.moe/c791t4.mp4
    cropped https://files.catbox.moe/8d8ckw.mp4

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/h9caoKz.jpg

      First open public documentation of M117 armored security vehicles in Ukraine. Skala battalion has them in both Correct and Mistake paintjobs.

      I once leaned into an open one.
      They are tiiiiny inside.
      Like just enough for the gunner to man the turret.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M117

      >m117

      https://i.imgur.com/k5Pzdlo.png

      A photo that no journalists posted, because they are incompetent buffoons to a wo/man

      >m117

      >m117
      you dropped a 1, you incompetent buffoon

      it's an M1117

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        record=corrected
        sudoku imminent

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who gets those, anyways?
    they are definitely not going in a rifle brigade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why wouldn't they?
      It's acceptable as an ambulance or a rear line security vehicle, checking for infiltrators, etc. Same with MRAPs; not ideal for doing that a Bradley/BMP will do, but just because it was initially intended as a COIN vehicle doesn't make it entirely useless in a full scale war

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not saying they wouldnt be useful, just that I am curious about where they fit in the battle order since they arent just going to hand them out to random rifle brigades

        > checking for infiltrators,
        like, who would be in charge of this?
        a dedicated rear-ech security battalion or reserve battalion
        or are they just in a M117 battalion that are assigned to help other brigades

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These were described as for "constabulary duty" so patrolling supply routes.
          Like those clips coomed over by proud Russians, of mag dumping a passing car and yanking out the dead Ukrainians, that's what this clamps down against.

          In US, MP's drive them around.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MRAPs have better armor than older BMPs and BTRs and I think even older tanks. Some can also fit the same amount of men as a APC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Caius

      I haven't seen any, nor have any of my buds. I suspect they either weren't shipped in full until recently or they've been sitting in a lot because nobody knew what do with them. The new sustainment / logistics command is ordering full reviews of many things, and they're finding situations like >30k tourniquets from US aid were never issued.

      It's reasonable for these situations to arise during a full-scale war. I mean, these vehicles definitely weren't high on the priority list for the newly raised units in 2023, so it would make sense to put them on ice until a coherent strategy is found.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Basically never say this. The war should have taught you that much.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they are definitely not going in a rifle brigade
      Why not?
      It's just a BRDM except good.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did BRDMs go in rifle brigades?
        Always thought they were in the recon battalion and wouldn't be attached to any unit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          golf carts are being used in assaults on entrenched positions, you need to disregard set in stone equipment allocation and unit organisation

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            was that an actual assault or was it just recon getting in too deep?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you dont have recon patrols going into no mans land on frontlines that have been static for years, it was an assault; my point still stands that despite the M117 being a BDRM esque vehicle its probably being used with regular infantry squads due to it being all they got

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It looks like a BRDM but fills a very different role. Its not an armored scout car, its a base security vehicle. That probably doesn't make for much of a practical difference in Ukraine though.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The purpose of a system is what it does.
          Every vehicle in the Russo-Ukrainian war is a demining vehicle.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Criminally underrated post.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      #
      >.50 cal, 7.62 MG, 40mm AGL, and smoke launchers.
      >more stable MRAP with modular armor that can withstand at least .50 AP, some RPGs, and frag.
      >Carries 3-8 soldiers and 2 crew depending on variant.
      >Can reach and maintain highway speeds for almost 500 miles.
      >Sealed against CBRN.
      Not only is this amazing for rear-line defense and anti-terror/insurgent, it’s a good scout car. Maybe a little big for that, but it seems like it would still be good for it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        would regular infantry be on rear-line defense or do they have a seperate unit for that?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC it depends on what units are based in that area, what the expected threat is, and if it's close to the front. Units on the front are expected to provide rear line defense but if you're like several hundred km back IIRC it goes to a mix of MPs, local police, and whatever units are based there.

          But I think they do prioritize MPs and second line/reserve units for stuff in the rear.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Caius

    A photo that no journalists posted, because they are incompetent buffoons to a wo/man

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Caius
  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thoroughly unimpressed.

    I like seeing creative stuff, show me the homebrew technicals not the gucci NATO gifts

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BTR is better

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope they like the GL and MG turret

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that the highlight of this vehicle or are there other things to look forward to

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing, its just a 4x4 armored patrol car that carries 2 instead of 1 weapon from typical weapon's squad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a modern almost APC with 4 wheels. What more you want?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like these. A .50 and a 40mm AGL are great weapons. Drone assisted 40mm is great for killing things in defilade

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why Textron never made one in the size of the original Cadillac Gage Commando. It would be perfect.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't they just the same, with the M117 being the modernized one?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but yeah, the commando and the guardian are the same size. Guardian has more armor, so it might be 0.1m more in heigh, width, and length. The commando is half the weight though.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humvee was the last army vehicle, just perfection

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A glorified armored jeep. Truly one of the ways to end an involvement in a war.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Coach Deadpill, is that you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It took russia fielding golf carts for a bunch of "armor does nothing in warfare" posters to come out of the woodwork, interesting

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s quick, cheap to fuel, and protected against artillery splinters and mines. The turret is pretty sweet.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    interesting

    Colombia to modernize M1117 vehicles with machine guns and grenade launchers

    According to InfoDefensa, Colombia plans to purchase 84 machine guns and 114 grenade launchers for the turrets of its 4x4 AFV M1117 vehicles. The National Army of Colombia's Acquisitions Directorate has initiated a tender process for the acquisition of 84 QCB COAX 12.7x99 mm machine guns and 114 MK-19 Mod-3 40x53 mm grenade launchers to equip the turrets of its Textron Marine & Land Systems (TM&LS) M1117 4x4 AFV vehicles.

    For the grenade launchers, specifications include an effective range of 1,500 meters, a firing rate of at least 250 shots per minute up to 450 rpm, and a lifespan of 50,000 shots. The machine guns are expected to have a range of up to 6,767 meters, a firing rate of 450 rpm, and a lifespan of ten years or 100,000 shots.

    The selection process will utilize an abbreviated reverse auction method, with an anticipated contract value of around 4 million dollars. The execution period is projected to be four months after the contract is signed. The objective of this tender is to equip the TM&LS 40mm/.50 Caliber Remote Turret weapon stations of the M1117 vehicles (214 units in total).

    The grenade launchers must comply with the technical standard JEMPP-CEDE4-DIETE-ET No. 04152 and the machine guns with the standard JEMPP-CEDE4-DIETE-ET No. 04153/ARM-00. Additionally, the procurement will consider the terms of the foreign trade concept No. 2022434001880173 from February 8, 2022, with payment upon delivery, covering 100% of the total delivery to satisfaction.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what sounds like they had different weapon on that turret before. Were they using twin m240?

      • 4 weeks ago
        caius

        Seems like many configurations. Mini pic dump because why not

        2017: THOR Myolnir T-30 turret

        >The main armament of the THOR weapon station will include one 30mm cannon and 7.62mm coaxial machine gun. The left side of the turret will be also equipped with two launchers for the Spike anti-tank guided missile manufactured by the Israeli Company Rafael.

        >The 30 mm cannon that will used in the THOR turret is the Mk44 bushmaster designed and manufactured by the American Company Orbital ATK. The MK44 Bushmaster® Automatic Cannon configurations fires all 30mm x 173mm, 30mm x 170mm Rarden & KCB ammunition.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a BRMD with some fake mock ups on top, why does /k/ constantly fall for this western cargo cult cope?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brmd
      oh buddy

  15. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    2020: wienererill turret

    >According to the Military Balance 2020, the Colombian army has a total of 28 M1117, 32 Stryker 8x8 armored vehicles and 121 EE-9 Cascavel 6x6 armored vehicles armed with a 90mm cannon. An undisclosed number of Colombian M11117 will be upgraded with the Belgian turret John wienererill CSE 90LP.

    >Textron M1117 Commando 4x4 armored vehicle in service with the Colombian army under the name of "Pegaso". According to the SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) arms trade database, 28 M1117 ASV (Armored Security Vehicle), 4x4 armored vehicles were delivered to Colombia in 2013/2014 and the second batch of 60 vehicles was delivered in 2016, including command post version. According to a Colombian army officer, two versions of the American-made Textron 4x4 armored vehicles are in service with the Colombian army, the Commando Select, and the Commando Advanced.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    How they came from US surplus, most recently

  17. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    frenship photo

  18. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    maintenance photo

  19. 4 weeks ago
    caius

    mysterious

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canada should send their's over too! And hopefully get a better vehicle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/wyvHhOP.jpg

      mysterious

      https://i.imgur.com/ERGFuO2.jpg

      maintenance photo

      https://i.imgur.com/VKHtyle.jpg

      frenship photo

      https://i.imgur.com/isnTQwr.jpg

      How they came from US surplus, most recently

      https://i.imgur.com/u0hsbJm.png

      2020: wienererill turret

      >According to the Military Balance 2020, the Colombian army has a total of 28 M1117, 32 Stryker 8x8 armored vehicles and 121 EE-9 Cascavel 6x6 armored vehicles armed with a 90mm cannon. An undisclosed number of Colombian M11117 will be upgraded with the Belgian turret John wienererill CSE 90LP.

      >Textron M1117 Commando 4x4 armored vehicle in service with the Colombian army under the name of "Pegaso". According to the SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) arms trade database, 28 M1117 ASV (Armored Security Vehicle), 4x4 armored vehicles were delivered to Colombia in 2013/2014 and the second batch of 60 vehicles was delivered in 2016, including command post version. According to a Colombian army officer, two versions of the American-made Textron 4x4 armored vehicles are in service with the Colombian army, the Commando Select, and the Commando Advanced.

      Based

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