Herbs. My Cilantro plant is already flowering and I planted it on mothers day
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Easiest way is to buy 'started' plants or start them inside in March depending on where you live and what you're planting. I grow >Basil >Cilantro >Green Onion >Strawberries >Blackberries >Zuchini >Peppers >Broccoli >Green Beans
Zuch is easily the most invasive. It'll take over. Blackberries too you should grow them in their own planter. Brocolli is just huge. Better off using a field. Peppers are probably the easiest to grow. You literally just plant the started plant in the dirt and water it. A few months later peppers come out. I only have 5-6 small planting boxes about 1 meter across each. I'd love to get a whole garden that takes up half my yard but I do not have a fence and deer, opossums, coyotes, and bunnies would probably eat my shit.
Grow plants around the edge that repel those and spray oils from herbs that repel them. Or be like native Americans of ye olden days and grow squash vines with sharp thorns around the perimeter.
>Cilantro plant
its been two months its still not growing for me. Kinda weird potato and berries grow fast as hell but anything else doesn't work for me.
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Discuss and ask questions of garden setups
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I can't grow bell peppers and I feel moronic, everyone tells me it's super easy.
Pic is my beans and eggplants, I feel they're too crowded, but they're all looking good so I haven't pulled anything out so far. There's also a couple of cucumber plants hidden in there, but I doubt they'll ever grow.
This is my first year growing veggies and gardening in general, had a decent beet harvest the past winter, plus a few radishes.
ok, we get it. can we move on from all the eggplant milking?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure if you want pests.
How to grow beats?
My beets like partial shade, I plant them under my tomato plants and as the tomatoes grow they shade my beets nicely. If you can grow them near mushrooms/woodchips I get sweeter flavor
Yeah no luck with bell peppers here either
Tried several times too can't even get them an inch high
I grow them hydroponic at 22C, 10 hours of light and regular liquid plant food, 1.5mL per litre of water. They’re doing well, getting too tall at times but they can handle aggressive pruning. First 7 days directly under a lamp in rockwool, transplant at 14. I get them to flower by adding 50ppm of magnesium (pure it’s cheap because people use it for foot baths or something), but not sure if that’s really necessary.
Don’t know how that translates to planter boxes, but they definitely need warmth and a bit of humidity in the early stages.
What material to tomatoe plants to stakes?
Best procedures
Seed spacing for cucumbers?
And other bigger veggies... pumpkins, squash, cantaloupe etc..
I use branches from my crap myrtle trees to make trellises and those round-ish tomato cages.
I go cut the new poles every fall and they grow back next spring.
They're ridiculously hard once dried so you definitely want to do all the bending and forming when they fleshly cut and still pliable.
Herbs. My Cilantro plant is already flowering and I planted it on mothers day
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Easiest way is to buy 'started' plants or start them inside in March depending on where you live and what you're planting. I grow >Basil >Cilantro >Green Onion >Strawberries >Blackberries >Zuchini >Peppers >Broccoli >Green Beans
Zuch is easily the most invasive. It'll take over. Blackberries too you should grow them in their own planter. Brocolli is just huge. Better off using a field. Peppers are probably the easiest to grow. You literally just plant the started plant in the dirt and water it. A few months later peppers come out. I only have 5-6 small planting boxes about 1 meter across each. I'd love to get a whole garden that takes up half my yard but I do not have a fence and deer, opossums, coyotes, and bunnies would probably eat my shit.
it requires too much effort (watering every day) and the space takes up too much room. its way easier to just buy it than grow it and cheaper too.
growing its a meme. enjoy when bugs frick up your crop that you tended to daily for 6 months.
I use branches from my crap myrtle trees to make trellises and those round-ish tomato cages.
I go cut the new poles every fall and they grow back next spring.
They're ridiculously hard once dried so you definitely want to do all the bending and forming when they fleshly cut and still pliable.
Hi,
maybe check these .
Its called Tomatenhaken / tomatohook.
More or less a ladder that allows you to put your longer and longer growing tomatoplant to lay down .
But of course you need something above the plants to put that in use.
I used them outdoors once and yes it works good enough for me. But tomatos are mostly in the greenhouse.
get a garden hose punch a couple holes with a nail where you want them fixate them if needed. Use a valve that opens only for a hour for better stuff maybe try those magic wires as a alternative to the expansive electro valve.
Out is a very pretentious board. Lots of latte liberals who stop at Starbucks on their way to go “hike” (walk through a park). DIY is the working man’s board, although we also have many larpers who’s advice to you is “HIRE SOMEONE” (wtf)
/hgm/ is not typical PrepHole people
hgm discord hates non-whites and posts pictures with their guns
But the way you type shows that you're over 50 and have an iq lower than your age, so you aren't welcome
>shit colored hair >shit colored eyes
You wouldnt be welcome on /hgm/ you dirty non-white phenotype
2 years ago
Anonymous
you must be some sort of moron? 99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair. Everything else is a genetic mutation.
oh yeah plus you still haven't proved shit about yourself. So really your just some pussy talking tough about something they know nothing about.
You should killyourself nobdy cares about you.
>It seems like you're just a prick who hates the working class and DIY (why are you even on the board then?)
If thats what you took from my post, its fitting you work in a shit factory. I dont think you are smart enough to do anything else. Maybe drywall?
Not all trades are equal, and quite frankly you dont really belong on PrepHole.
You are about on equal footing as this homosexual [...] who works on a computer from his house.
You arent tradies, you arent actually working men, you dont have mechanical prowess like everyone else.
You try to project pride about PrepHole despite neither of you actually working in a trade that demands it.
You are both about as useful as a garbage truck driver.
Again you know literally nothing. People like me and my coworkers keep your plumbing and lights on.
You should just shut your fat stinky mouth lol. Probably just a loser talking mad shit on his fat ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair. >"white people"
Keep coping
2 years ago
Anonymous
My genetics turned me into a 6 foot brick shit house built for heavy work.
You're such a pussy you can't even show your own face.
Do the world a favor and get off your ass and do something useful. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or a hospital for frick sake.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Do the world a favor and get off your ass and do something useful. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or a hospital for frick sake.
Hey now, you dont know me.
I routinely donate materials and money to help keep the "intellectually disabled" folks employed.
Its the least I can do.
In fact, later today when I donate a giant steaming load of materials, ill do it in your honor.
Pic related, its me (a fellow white man) donating materials to you and your co-workers.
I don't know how you would turn your toilet into a water bomb.
This guy is either unlucky or "special" like the maidenless baiter who posted the pic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
Maybe in Italy. Scandinavia, benelux, Germany and UK are north of 60% blondes. Eastern Europe prety high too.
My genetics turned me into a 6 foot brick shit house built for heavy work.
You're such a pussy you can't even show your own face.
Do the world a favor and get off your ass and do something useful. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or a hospital for frick sake.
Volunteering at a soup kitchen only helps Black folk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
You and I have different definitions of white.
morons, probably chinks or some shit and think they're whiter than whites.
Go trace your heritage somewhere else mutts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am of Northern European ancestry, and think Central Europeans are swarthy subhumans and everyone south of them are literally Black folk.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am Dutch. Vast majority of Dutch people are some variety of blonde with some redheads.
Anyway lets get back to vegetables you homosexual femboy fricking degenerate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
You and I have different definitions of white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you must be some sort of moron? 99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
Maybe in muttmerica, I literally never met someone with brown eyes until I was 19 and very few who had black hair
2 years ago
Anonymous
if you can't grow it all out please fricking shave
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm 20, my beard is still growing. At the very least I take comfort in knowing I have enough test to continue growing even late into my adulthood.
And yet, there are anons with actual orchards and homestead gardens that mog whatever garden you may have.
Just because you said that im going to come back to this thread every day until it shuts down and post something
Go ahead and bump yourself silly, everyone else who is interested will go off to PrepHole once they realize you are the only one here bumping.
These threads pop up every year and have never ever survived here.
Case in point, you get morons like lurking in these threads.
He is sort of right, the demographic on this board are working class guys and tradies.
You know, the type of guys who would laugh in your face when you tell them you are taking up gardening as a hobby.
Not conducive to the green thumb types who like to play around with flowers.
A. I'm not OP moron
B. I'm a tradie. I work in a shit plant. No one there would ever laugh at someone for gardening. A few of the guys have taken up growing plants in one of filtering rooms. Ya know in the moist human shit.
They thought it would be funny to sprinkle seeds as a joke and they ended up sprouting. So now we pour water on them to feed em. They get sun from the windows and skylight.
It seems like you're just a prick who hates the working class and DIY (why are you even on the board then?)
>It seems like you're just a prick who hates the working class and DIY (why are you even on the board then?)
If thats what you took from my post, its fitting you work in a shit factory. I dont think you are smart enough to do anything else. Maybe drywall?
Not all trades are equal, and quite frankly you dont really belong on PrepHole.
You are about on equal footing as this homosexual
Yes. That doesn’t make me wrong. I don’t go to POL and tell them not to care about politics. I don’t understand why people come here and tell people to hire others kek
who works on a computer from his house.
You arent tradies, you arent actually working men, you dont have mechanical prowess like everyone else.
You try to project pride about PrepHole despite neither of you actually working in a trade that demands it.
You are both about as useful as a garbage truck driver.
>You are both about as useful as a garbage truck driver.
not either of them, but, garbage truck driver is pretty useful, you sound like an elitest prick
2 years ago
Anonymous
When was the last time you asked a garbage man to come help build or repair something?
He drive a fricking dump truck for a living
2 years ago
Anonymous
The garbage men at my lake house don’t take anything unless it all fits in the big can the city provides. God forbid they get out. The garbage men at main home are based. Still a job a moron/convict could do but they throw away everything. Took 3 whole mattresses
2 years ago
Anonymous
based
I hate people shitting on blue collar workers so much it's fricking unreal
t. limp wristed engineer, but my father taught me to always respect working men
>DIY is the working man’s board, although we also have many larpers who’s advice to you is “HIRE SOMEONE” (wtf)
Arent you the guy who works from home on a computer all day?
kek
Yes. That doesn’t make me wrong. I don’t go to POL and tell them not to care about politics. I don’t understand why people come here and tell people to hire others kek
I am growing cherry tomatoes, zucchini, sugar snap peas, potatoes, Swiss chard, and eggplant. I hadn’t grown anything for many years. Tomatoes and zucchini are doing very well. Sugar snap is fine but I started it too late and started too few plants. I feel like the eggplant isn’t going to work out. I started them indoors like everything else but the hardening off moving them outside was rough. A lot of leaves got eaten by bugs and they just haven’t taken off growing.
I am preparing for next year, trying to transition from raised beds to no dig. I’ve gotten a lot of horse manure from a local horse farm to bulk up my compost heaps.
not to get political, but if you haven't started a garden yet you absolutely need to. there have been like 30 or so food plants burned to the ground this year alone. if you can't provide your own food, don't count on it being at the store for any price.
make a basic garden. i don't care what you grow, just grow something, anything. use window boxes as small raised beds if you have to. pots, buckets, window boxes, lined crates, anything can be used to grow plants in as long as the material isn't toxic.
herbs are really easy for the most part, radishes grow almost instantly and can easily be pickled, carrots grow a lot slower but are still doable. almost anyone can fit one or two pepper plants somewhere. lettuce can and should be grown in seeding trays, and not allowed to grow to maturity. eat it while it's still small and it's very tender. tomatoes are best grown in inverted compound buckets, but they can be grown upright in beds too. companion planting works. also, learn to preserve what you grow. it is much, much easier than you think and the only real limitations are product availability and space in your home.
>there have been like 30 or so food plants burned to the ground this year alone. if you can't provide your own food, don't count on it being at the store for any price.
I support people growing food and I grow my own, but I doubt anybody is going to be able to feed themselves from their garden in any serious capacity.
I could probably feed myself for a couple of days at most, and I'd probably end up with oxalic acid poisoning from my diet being 80% chard.
>A garden is fun. Nothing more.
It can definitely supplement your regular food sources and make up where supply fails and make things a little nicer, but it's nothing beyond that.
Right now lettuces in my country are like $12 each because of some bullshit, but the ones in my garden are free, and frankly much nicer.
Same with tomatoes a few months ago, $10+ a kg, but I had more than I knew what to do with in my garden.
But you can't live on lettuce and tomato.
The thing is, if you’re a vegetarian than by default you are also actually gay. There is a 100% correlation with how much meat you eat: how gay you are. This is why I eat meat with every meal, to ensure I never become a fudge packer
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know man you're pretty gay tho. You might just be eating wiener and hallucinating chicken or something.
Personally i eat my femboys ass before every meal and have him suck me off after.
Also pic related. Making stair shaft in work. You would probably cry for daddy and shit yourself if you ever attempted my work.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You would probably cry for daddy and shit yourself if you ever attempted my work.
Is that when you would eat my ass?
2 years ago
Anonymous
bro you're a nasty fricking fat guy. My slim fem femboy is my only love.
You, heh. I would give a crack head 20$ to rape you.
Enjoy those aids.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I would give a crack head 20$ to rape you.
Leave your coworkers out of this.
This scat fetish discussion is between you and me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You need to get some b***hes, maidenless baiter. 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm actually loving smearing your face into the dirt lonely baiter.
My femboy is also sucking my dick right now as a morning wakeup call.
See I breed boy pussy and you cum into socks.
We are not the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fake and gay. No one likes you, not even other fans. You beat each other all the time because you're angry misfits.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro your life is tragic. No woman, no femboy, no garden, no father, no hope.
What do you even have to live for at this point? Posting bait to the DIY boards? Os that it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like how he doesnt realize he's talking to two different people
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay still eating meat and not living off tomatoes whatever you see Bruce
2 years ago
Anonymous
I eat a lot of meat but I'm really gay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's talking about red meats chicken, fish, pork, etc...
Not meat as in wiener meat you degenerate
Yeah I’m saying if you’re counting on a garden to help you in a doomsday prepper scenario you’re a dumbass. It definitely would help in the short term. 2004 blackout. 2020 Covid food shelves empty, etc, but after a few months you’ll be hungry too lol
Don't listen to this enormous fricking idiot it's obvious he knows nothing about nothing and has no balls to prove anything he's talking about.
Considering my family has been farming and working hard labour for generations I would say gardening is a incredibly smart idea.
Just get a few small animals like chickens , cats and dogs (to protect your farm from pests), and maybe a few others like goats or some shit.
Can/preserve all of your food and always keep a stock of seeds too.
You're going to be far better off than this mouth breathing keyboard warrior who probably has only one useful skill and thats cumming into socks so the world doesn't have to bear any of his ilk after he dies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice reddit spacing
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro morons like you have been accusing me of tourism for the longest time.
Yeah of course I'm a tourist moron. This site suddenly exploded in popularity by pure logic at least 30-40% of the people on here now are.
But reddit? You think proper grammar and formatting belongs to reddit? You must be a reddit loser to think that shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice reddit spacing
2 years ago
Anonymous
Chicken and goats isn’t a home garden, so for instance this is my peppers and zucchini’s. It’ll give our family of 5 food for a bit, but not if shtf. Most people don’t have all our gardens. Again, all I’m saying is if shit truly did hit the fan and the supply chain was shut down for like 6-12 months, your garden might give you a little head start but ultimately unless you’re raising chickens and have a few acres and are “tractor” farming you probably can’t self sustain.
Agree that that guy is a moronic troll autists tho
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well yeah can't argue there, my point was never really that you could sustain food forever.
Just that spending time you would be using to watch tv or jacking off instead on gardening is pretty useful. I mean you are supplementing your diet with organic food you grew and know all about, learning a useful skill, and getting good physical work in.
This moron is saying shit like "oh waaahhh u habe to water plants" like hydroponics don't exist. Like rain doesn't exist. Lol!
Really if you want to have a secure food source talking to local farmers and getting a community together to trade with those farmers is the best choice.
When shit hits the fan they'll keep farming and with the communitys help they will have enough to support everybody.
That's just my two cents tho, Lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I mean you are supplementing your diet with organic food you grew
I saturate my vegetables in so much synthetic fertiliser and pesticide they're probably radioactive
Op here, what a great interactive conversation with great questions and answers and ideas let's keep it up. And only a couple gaygits snuck itt not to bad
It's true. One of the main commercial fertilizers is urea in dry pellet form. I believe the microbes and bacteria present in the soil convert the urea into nitrogen through a process.
It's true. One of the main commercial fertilizers is urea in dry pellet form. I believe the microbes and bacteria present in the soil convert the urea into nitrogen through a process.
urine
Ok I'm going to start pissing on my plants better no be fricking with me
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've seen plants survive on human piss alone (as for human shit. It needs to be treated first. Too much acid and protein. Throw it in hole and let the bacteria take care of it.)
automatic watering systems for extremely hot areas are a good idea, consider putting in a mister to run during the height of the day for an hour to keep things thriving
I can't tell how much water my mint needs. I planted it maybe last week and water it multiple times every day I think. It gets direct sunlight a little over 3 hours but the top inch of soil dries out in maybe 30-45 minutes during that time.
What are signs of underwatering vs. overwatering? I've read that crispy = underwatered and wilting/limp = overwatered but I could be wrong. Kind of sucks that I can't find info for my climate online very efficiently
Do yall think there's enough room here for a cranberry hibiscus tree? I'm also tempted to get a long planter box next to the window, I haven't checked how much light that area gets but I'm pretty sure its somewhere between 3-6 hours
If yall have any suggestions for what I could do here feel free, I'm in zone 8b
Watch youtube gardening videos. Often the recommendation is fill the bottom with mulch / cardboard and put the soil on top. purchased soil is often nutrient free unless you specifically purchase miracle grow soil or something
Yes, you can. It's fine. It's actually good. Keep in mind that as the mulch decomposes over time, the volume of the medium in the bed will decrease slightly.
I just moved to a new house, garden is mostly grass.
I got an idea: I just turned the grass upside down, so it dies and feeds future vegetables.
I plan to add ~10cm of soil over it.
Is it actually a good idea? Should I just get rid of the grass before planting?
Check this out you want fertilizer right?
Just piss on your plants...noy joking I thought it was bull shit too but anons have recommended it and I did my own research it's real
Piss on your plants bro
I save seeds each season, and I'm incredibly mean to my plants. Very little weeding or additional watering. I also direct sow everything. After a few crap years of insect damage and weeds crowding out, the survivors' progeny can handle local conditions and my gardening style. I usually plant in the summer to get late fall/winter storage pumpkins. They absolutely are summer plants (summer squash, anyone?) and summer-planted ones for winter storage. Maybe try a different variety or cross varieties until you get something that works for you?
I was inspired by Joseph Lofthouse. I don't like how far he takes the blenda-up idea because I think that after a certain point, you need to start selecting for beautiful produce, and he comes off as a boomer crossdresser or something, but the method of growing where you plant a bunch of stuff in a shitty climate, neglect the plants as much as possible, then plant the seeds of the survivors really appeals to me. I don't want to build a special growing facility on my field. The grow facility is my fricking field, and my vegetables need to grow in it without weeding, herbicides, or pesticides.
My wife got frustrated a few times and wanted to give up and get grow lights, indoor starting tomatoes, weedcloth, etc. but I've persevered and I like the resulting produce.
I'd like to start on kale next. I saved seeds from some kale that overwintered with no issues. I'd like to hybridize it with some other winter kale https://www.rareseeds.com/ornamental-fringed-mix-kale and maybe anything else that catches my fancy, then replant the F2s and F3s and so on until it becomes its own thing. I'm pretty sure that kale is one of those vegetables that can suffer from inbreeding depression, so if I leave a certain amount of variation in my kale, it should be able to keep itself in check. (at least in theory)
Incredibly based.
I might try this in a small rough patch in my garden and have different species of plants compete against each other. Only the most vigorous and hardy plant will survive and outcompete the others.
Any tips on how to get something like this started and what about the really pesky / fast growing weeds that can outcompete crops? >insect damage
I've been fighting snails and slugs for two years in my garden until I've had enough and started using iron phosphate pellets. Killed them all within a week and this year I'll finally have some veggies and fruits. They always ate everything the previous years. Long story short, the previous owner didn't take care of his property and it was overrun with snails and slugs which I then tried to control without any chemicals (picking + beer traps mainly) but it wasn't too effective.
I'll use squash as my example since they're easy to cross and select. Look up how Joseph Lofthouse does his, also. Carol Deppe has a whole book on it.
Problem: Vine Bore Beetle eats my squash every year.
Solution: Buy packets of compatible squash (there are 3 types of squash: moschata, pepo, and maxima. There's also mixta but nobody cares.) I bought moschata.
Plant moschatas in a cleared patch, in hills, as you do. Water to germinate them, as you do. If weeds are truly horrendous, put down some newspaper and weigh it with stones to give the seeds a head start.
Once germinated, ignore as much as possible. Don't weed or water much if at all. Grow to fruit.
Harvest and make pumpkin muffins! Save and wash seeds.
I also select for storage time because I want to cook with squash all winter long. Rotten ones don't get saved seeds.
Next year, plant saved seeds. If you planted more than one variety year 1, you'll have F1 (generation 1) hybrids. Do it all again. The survivors get harvested, eaten, seeds saved. If anything tastes bad or does bad, don't save it.
F2: you'll have weird mutt plants with different traits. Don't save anything you dislike. Keep doing this. After many (like 7?) seasons, you should have a stable variety if you felt like selecting for uniform shape/size/color. After fewer seasons, you'll have something that can grow the way you grow it since everything else died.
My moschata mix this year: thai kang kob saved seed, dickenson (the canned libby's stuff), and I couldn't find canada crookneck or I'd have thrown that in with it.
>heard
So you've never actually eaten squash, nor a pumpkin pie, then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Grilled / baked pumpkin is delicious. It's very similar to sweet potatoes.
So pumpkins is squash eh? I had no idea
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yep. Pumpkins is more of a term for squash that look a certain way (though they may be from unrelated subtypes such as C. Pepo and C. maxima) but squash are Curcubita Pepo, Curcubita maxima, Curcubita mixta, and Curcubita moschata.
Maxima is mostly big ones, watery, hollow inside and good for carving and for livestock and dog food, though there are plenty bred specifically for good taste. Very colorful and pretty.
Mochata is for taste (butternut) and storage time. It'll turn tan in a few months, probably. Delicious.
Pepo is lots of summer squash plus a couple outlier pie and storage varieties.
Mixta? Nobody remembers it, but there's a couple highly regional favorites like striped cushaw. If you're in the region for them you probably know about it.
You can plant one of each type next to each other without crossing. You can plant multiples of one type and cross them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Grilled / baked pumpkin is delicious. It's very similar to sweet potatoes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
bro if you like pumpkin you'll like squash. It's not as sweet but sliced thinly, grilled, with some olive oil, salt, pepper - squash also fricking stores FOREVER in a cold cellar. You can have squash properly last you 8 months. It's a very good shtf food but unfortunately it requires some prep to keep good and to also cook. There are a shitton of varieties, I strongly suggest you check them out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't overcook your summer (immature harvested) squash or puree it into a soup. Grill pieces in oil and herbs so they get a little black on the grill marks. It's delicious.
>Didn’t even notice there was a garden thread
You obviously didnt notice that none of the thread is actually garden talk, and the OP doesnt know what hes talking about
Quit shilling your shitty ass thead in OUR diy thread.
Real men and or women who work hard on gardens post here
No get back to your troony thread and stay out
>guy posts question in /hgm/ thread 4 hours ago, already has 3 separate responses with some back and forth >instead of giving the guy an answer, you sperg out proving the post right
like pottery
So anyways,
Does anyone breed their own plant varieties? Last year, I grew various tomatoes close together. This year, I planted last year's fruit's seeds plus another variety with qualities I favor. In many seasons from now, I hope for a custom tomato.
Make your own and also don't show me! We have lost something like 90% of all vegetable varieties in the history of agriculture. Most of our produce is Big Ag Bullshit which lacks flavor, nutrition, and culture. Make a variety that suits your locale, your gardening style, and your tastes. It's really sad that we've lost so much, but we can also make new, wonderful things going forward.
You're basically supposed to cut them up and put them in the ground. Just make sure each piece has at least one eye. Buy seed potatoes if you wanna be fancy. They're one of the most forgiving edible things that you can grow. That said, I planted a bunch this spring and they just rotted. Probably because my garden has no sun.
depends on varieties.
"earlies" are 10 to 12 weeks from first emergence
"second earlies" or mid seasons are like 12 - 15 weeks. There's some weird distinction and regional variation there.
Maincrops are a minimum of 16 weeks and that's for small harvests. Some go out to a full 6 months.
you can usually get away with plating earlies in early July if soil temps aren't too high, depending on zone. first frost is end of October for me so I can actually stretch my season a bit if I'm feeling risky. You won't get an optimum harvest but you'll get something.
I have clay soil and I planted potatoes and i got the worst yield ever. Size of a quarter potatoes, when they should be the size of a fist at least.
There a couple no-till, no-bury methods for potatoes. The roots can usually deal with clay alright, so if you "pre-mound" with a loose compost mulch over a bed, and do a shallow planting in the top of the mound, you'll still get decent tuber bulk. You can keep mounding for indeterminate, or you can go easy and just plant a determinate variety,
There's a couple guys on youtube who have demos of this method. Just be mindful that drainage might be an issue beneath the compost mound if it's heavy clay.
Take sprouted storebought potatoes and put them in the ground with a couple inches of soil on top. They're ready when the foliage dies off, but you can carefully steal potatoes from beneath the plant before that.
Good fertilizer to buy? How much?
Well-rotted chicken compost
Also what are some good pesticides to buy to keep bugs and animals away? And how much?
Fragrant herbs to keep mammals away. Spray hot pepper water to keep bugs away
Hi frens, I'm currently growing Habaneros, Cilantro, Cherry Tomatoes, Sugar Snaps, and Big Thai Hybrids. My seedlings are doing okay, they were planted on 6/4, and I transplanted them to individual containers this last Friday. I've noticed a few of my habs are looking a tiny bit yellow - could this be overwatering? I mixed in a fox farm big grow fertilizer when I transplanted, so I don't think it's nutrients. They are currently getting about 16-18 hours of sunlight a day.
These are the rest of them. I have about 45 ish and need approximately the best 18 viable plants. Planning on moving them to my newly built greenhouse in about 10-14 days.
is it a bit late in the season? I don't know, I've only done sweet peppers, but I usually have those in by June to hit late Sept/early October for harvest. I've heard the Big Thais are fast.
A little late but it's hot here (like 90s) until the end of September, then 80s and 70s in October with occasional cold snaps, and an occasional heat wave. I guess what I'm saying is - I still have a solid 2.5 to almost 3 months, and I'm thinking the greenhouse will extend that a bit.
That's not as bad as I thought, Well shit, I was going to try some other peppers this year but didn't get around to starting things until mid june, thought it would be too late. I'll have to try again next year.
Go to the store and buy peppers that have already been growing for a few weeks if you want
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Seedlings and starters have been cleared out near me. Gardening exploded with COVID, seems like everything that isn't straight seed is gone the same day it arrives. I don't live near a big city, though.
Also growing habaneros
Need some tricks and pointers so they don't for when I transplant to main garden.
How big should they get before transplant?
What fertilizers they like and shit
I got the fox farm trio. I've heard good things about it and I'm hoping it helps. I'm planting in raised beds in a greenhouse with an automated hydroponics solution, Hoping that will be enough to keep them all alive
Lol fair point - actually under grow lights. I think in my part of the midwest they'd still average a solid 11 though, at least right now, we are almost at the longest day of the year I believe.
Saplings have enough nutrition from seed and soil to last at least 3-5 weeks without fert.
It's probably you ofer fertilizing them.
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Maybe a water issue (if you aren't sure just make sure temp is good and the aoil is only moist and not wet.)
who else has a compost heap? do you actually get heat out of your compost? I have a ton of nitrogen in mine but never get heat from it. it's mostly grass clippings, dried leaves, kitchen scraps, and horse manure.
Yes my compost heap was steaming hot but I didn't do anything with it to extract the heat. The trick is to get the ratio between greens and woody stuff right. A dry compost heap is a sad compost heap, always keep it moist and keep the greens content as high as possible without getting it smelly/slimy. The more woody stuff is in there the easier it dries out in my experience.
I've had good success composing chipped conifer branches with their needles + grass + kitchen scraps. It turned into nice black hummus within a year or two.
Turning the heap also improves it significantly in my experience.
Are there any places that sell irrigation supplies cheaper than big box stores? I need to install a few thousand feet of drip lines and don't want to get raped if I don't have to. Also, if I connect them to rainwater tanks will I need a pump to pressurize or will gravity work if my raintank is higher elevation than my garden?
>Don't you diy cucks like gardens?
This is the working mans board
Gardens are for women, the trad wife who stays at home.
They arent for real men, go watch any gardening youtuber and its some panty waist milquetoast homosexual with a wife manlier than he is.
>mfw I can grow all sorts of long vegetables to shove into my anis after a long hard day of watering my flowering with a little straw hat and pink gloves on
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You have a caret where it doesn't belong, sir.
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If you've ever been to a farm far (aka if you're not a skill-less urbanite zoomer), you'll notice that men usually enter largest vegetable contests and women enter the best jam/cake making contests.
Not having any men in your agriculture is an African thing. Women do the agriculture there while the men stab each other and destroy white and chinese-built infrastructure.
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*farm fair
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Anon keeps wanting to judge the "aubergines" in strange and unconventional ways
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I too have found them men can fit much larger vegetables into their anus than the wife.
You would think otherwise seeing how both are 300lbs, but that’s just fat, the frame underneath the layers of fat is what matters.
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>I too have found them men can fit much larger vegetables into their anus than the wife.
It's time to turn off the internet and do hard labor until you turn straight again
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>do hard labor until you turn straight
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2 years ago
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Why every thing turn into sexism and racism with you c**ts?
This one post sums up the problem with white people
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10/10 sentence 1 vs sentence 2 troll.
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>The best part about aubergines is they're dark. Well, the big ones anyway.
I'm looking for a hobby. Not enough space to grow veggies because I live in a block of flats, so technically unrelated, but I don't know where else to ask:
Any of you know anything about bonsai?
In the absence of capacity to grow anything utilitarian I want to do something extremely dumb, like bonsai'ing a marijuana.
Op here I wanted to have a nice tasteful diy garden thread and you pieces of shit ruined is with bigotry.
I no longer care if this thread dies. This is why we can't have nice things.
First year really gardening. I have only a small city garden but getting around 20 small cucumbers, 10 apples, about a kilogram of raspberries (red and orange), some small herbs and enough rosemary for my entire family and then some.
For some reason pear tree did flower but got no pears, even though it’s self pollinating and produced a single pear last year. Kiwi is struggling too. Fig tree produces some small fig like things but they fall off before they become real figs.
Leftover soil, leaves, plant clippings, some coffee grounds, the occasional banana peel, dead plants. Basically everything organic, but I try to keep it low sweet fruits because of bugs. If I get a fly infestation I throw in a tobacco plant and they leave
What would you do if you could not grow stuff in the ground? As in, every plant you put directly in the ground will stay stunted and anemic. And water and fertilizer you put on it will be nullified before the target plant can even use it? How would you grow food then?
Because that's the situation I find myself in. Wicking beds/barrels seem to be the answer.
>How would you grow food then?
Buy a large variety of seeds and see which ones grow best. Then keep the seeds of the healthiest, most vigorous plants and plant them the next season. Rinse and repeat until you've selectively bred a strain that is able to deal with your bad soil. Then focus on selecting for other traits: taste, amount of fruits and seeds or other variables that are beneficial for your area. Don't worry about keeping strains pure, you can always re-select for the traits you want.
Also till your soil and add home made compost to it, it helps a lot but takes time until you start seeing good results.
This is what I'm trying now because I also had very little luck with commercial seeds and plants in my soil. I'm hoping to breed plants that are adapted to my soil.
That would work in a lot of cases but not this. The soil is shit yes, hydrophobic sand with no water holding. But the root cause of the problem is the multiple 30m high eucalyptus trees on the other side of the back fence.
There is a word which I can't remember to describe the behavior of plants when they have mechanisms to suppress other plants in the area that might compete for resources. Like pine trees acidifying the soil with their needles. Well large eucalypts do the same thing. The main problem is the roots, they grow fast an are attracted to moisture. I had a pile of horse manure sitting on bare soil for 3 months. By the time I got around to using it the tree roots had reached the very top of the pile and each horse turd was a twisted ball of roots inside. Same thing happens if I put pots directly on the ground, the tree roots come up out of the ground and into the holes in the bottom of the pots and turn the potted soil into a block of tree roots. So any attempt to improve the soil is ultimately futile because the trees suck every little bit of goodness out of it about as quickly as you can put it in and turn the soil into sand. Also they are constantly dropping leaves all year round which have eucalyptus oil in them which coats the grains of sand and makes it hydrophobic. It can rain for 5 days straight and the sand is still bone dry less than 1 inch down. Lastly there is a barrage of twigs, gum nuts and other little hard things constantly raining down from the canopy which poke holes in leaves or the larger branches crush any smaller fragile plants.
Wicking beds are the answer, a body of soil completely separated from the ground with it's own water reservoir built in. I've got a couple of big ones, but used sub-standard plastic sheet for the reservoir which got a hole in it. The gum trees found the hole. Turned 2 cubic meters of good soil into a mass of tree roots in less than 1 year, the root was as thick as my thumb going in the hole.
A degree of yellowing is normal later on in the year, close to harvest once the flower has done its thing and gone off. If you've got a long time to go and the leaves don't seem scorched, stop fricking watering it and cut off the limp shitleaves.
>What's the difference between compost and fertiliser?
They're basically the same thing. Compost is made from natural items while fertilizer is made by chemist. >When should you use them and how are you supposed to apply them?
That depends on the plant and the type of fertilizer. I use compost at my farm and apply it a few times a year. Fertilizer has labels with directions on when to apply. Different plants require different application rates as well.
this is dirt in texas (after a rainstorm). say something nice about it
also any idea on how to remove that old fencepost? i removed most of the concrete around it but it is still 100% stuck in the ground not budging
That's the HOA lawn pipe that is in my yard because I extended my fence out last year. It's broken all over the neighborhood because it's made out of shitty 1/2 inch pvc drain pipe that isn't designed for water pressure
Anyone tried making anaerobic fertilizer?
The method I'm thinking about is the following: >get bucket >add plant clipping and other biomass >add rainwater >seal bucket >wait a year >use stinky water as fertilizer
I made a bucket like this a few days ago but I'd like to know if any of you have done this already and how it turned out.
Why would you want to use leachate for fert? I mean I guess you could use it as compost starter. But even then worm castings cost 30x more than compost for a reason.
Worm guts eat bad bacteria and fungi and poop out the better stuff.
If you want to be lazy about it take a bunch of food scraps and a few pounds of worms and dump them in your garden.
>Why would you want to use leachate for fert?
It's not just a leachate, the bacteria break down the biomass into a liquid goop if left long enough. It is said to be a great fertilizer.
Similarly you can do the same anaerobic process with moist plant matter instead of creating a liquid. The result looks like store bought compost apparently.
Sure but worms do it way faster. They turn a decomposing job that takes 2 years into one that takes a couple of months. Plus they produce plant hormones, beneficial microbes, etc.
They boost harvest in size, quality, and reduce underground pests (those beneficial microbes can eat pests alive.)
What I'm really asking is why you don't just throw some worms into the mix?
I'll probably make a worm compost bin some time, but I like the idea of this one because you just make a bucket and forget about it until next year. Really low effort and bother. I also already have a normal wooden compost "bin".
I have no clue about worms. We have freezing winters here and I would need to figure out how to keep them alive or get the next generation going after the winter and read more into it. Seems nice and all but a lot more effort than the set and forget bucket, even if it may be more efficient in terms of time to completion and perhaps even better quality fertilizer.
Either way, I'm just trying it out to see if it's any good. It's said to be great fertilizer.
I have been trying to grow sorghum since april-may and while I am able to get them to germinate via paper towel method, once I get them in pot they never seem to sprout even after two to three weeks. My first and second attempts failed more than likely due to too much sun exposure, giving them fertilizer when too young, and fungal nats so I decided to get boiling water to sterilize the soil and dried it out in the sun for days before I did my third attempt which was just watering the soil before transferring my third batch (which have really good roots by the way) into the soil and after 15 days they haven't sprouted at all, what's going on?
did you >strip pulp off the seeds? >plant it 1.5 inches deep? >keep temperature around 70F-80F? >keep it wet? >have enough nitrogen?
i would just try a lot of different methods at once. have a batch in the shade, batch inside near a window, water some twice a day, some once a day, some every 2 days. i don't think you need fertilizer.
My Bolivian rainbow is finally getting flowers, but most of them wilt after a day or two and before they turn purple. Don’t they have to turn purple to produce a pepper eventually? And can I still fix this? I didn’t have any flowers for like 3 months and now suddenly am getting a lot of them at once (like 15 in 2 days).
what is your approach to parsley? I feel like i never have enough when I need it and it never recovers/rebounds when I use it. Should I plant a shit load of it?
I plant it outside when it stops freezing and I just grow all winter here. When I was young one plant was plenty for a 4 people household. We cut 3 or 4 of the larger ‘stems’ at a time. Not sure if they recover but it will get new stems. You have to cut from the outside, or the new small stems won’t get enough light
Whats the most plants in a 55l tub i can grow using kratky method might turn to recycling deep water culture bit later
have nft system in 90mm pipes want to try connect all up
nqld
Tomato, chilli, zucc, eggplant, squash, caps, beans have 4 of each in each tub how many more can i get in each if i use hanging wireto grow vertically along a fence wondering most vper of anything 40x60cm 55lt tub
Anyone here make a planter out of those black bins with the yellow lid? How about a "self-watering" one? I just moved and have more bins than I need for storage, want to set up some garden space on my roof.
Thats what im trying to use drill hole in lid for pots with coir and perlite
A lot. Romaine lettuce will consume like 2L at a time. I’ve grown romaine, arugula, and peppers in 2.5L kratky pots each. Only thing is if one plant catches mold/disease all of them will get it.
Anyone here make a planter out of those black bins with the yellow lid? How about a "self-watering" one? I just moved and have more bins than I need for storage, want to set up some garden space on my roof.
how much water are you allowed for those 20 minutes? you can prolly plant something in a big grow bag and get away with waterting it ever other day. How hot is it by you these summer days? Are the plants going to be in direct sunlight for long periods, or are they shaded?
Right now it's mid-90's every day. And the water is whatever a hose sprinkler can produce in 20 minutes. I have a few smalls shaded spots but most of it is exposed to the sun.
I was thinking maybe I could get away with 4 days of ten minute watering sessions.
Right now it's mid-90's every day. And the water is whatever a hose sprinkler can produce in 20 minutes. I have a few smalls shaded spots but most of it is exposed to the sun.
I was thinking maybe I could get away with 4 days of ten minute watering sessions.
Wicking beds/barrels my man, you could grow a shit ton with that much water in wicking barrels. 100% of the water is used by the plants (if you mulch correctly to prevent evaporation) They take water from the reservoir as they need it. All you have to do is stick the hose in the fill point until it spills out the overflow pipe and you're good for another week.
I decided to throw some grocery store seeds into some soil I had laying around on a whim. Some bell peppers and tomatoes. The tomatoes seem to be progressing along fine, the green peppers seem to be stuck at this height. I planted them some time during the beginning or middle of May. Are the green peppers fricked or is this normal? I think I first germinated them in early April. This is the first time I've ever done a garden and I think I fricked up several ways at once, first them being planted maybe 12 inches from each other and the location starts going into shade around 2 or 3pm as the sun goes around the front of the house. The tomatoes just started flowering in the past few days so I'm going to rummage around in the woods for sticks to stake them to.
>Are the green peppers fricked or is this normal?
Not sure but mine are even smaller. >them being planted maybe 12 inches from each other
Hmm seems fine to me, spreading them too much apart encourages weeds and is less efficient in terms of space. I didn't plant mine too close to each other because the soil is low quality (for now). I plan to plant mine about as close as you did yours for the next season, depending on the species.
>Hmm seems fine to me, spreading them too much apart encourages weeds and is less efficient in terms of space. I didn't plant mine too close to each other because the soil is low quality (for now). I plan to plant mine about as close as you did yours for the next season, depending on the species.
Yeah I've never done gardening before and I just tossed them into the ground after putting them in leftover ramen noodle cups with some soil in it to germinate. Once they got big enough I threw them in the ground. No idea how big a green pepper plant is supposed to be or what timeline they grow on. I just water it daily at this point unless its going to rain.
My current setup (I'm the guy that posted Habenaro seedlings above). Still waiting on those, they will occupy the other two bays. Trinidad Scorpions on the left, cherry tomatoes on the right. Hydroponics laid on soil but I'm considering using bricks to level instead. Anyone have any recommendations for topsoil to garden soil mix. I would say each container is 14 bags of miraclegro garden (1.5 cu ft) and then 21ish bags of generic topsoil (very nutrient sparse). I threw in slow release pellets as I mixed in the dirt, to hopefully get good nutrient spread.
Update to this, I tried a different bag of miraclegro soil (white and green instead of green and yellow) and the consistency and size of the particulate matter is way better. Kind of regret using the slightly lower cost garden soil now.
Guys its storming for a few days around here. You think my sunflowers, pumpkin, tomatoes will be okay? For reference Some of their flowers have been turning yellow and spotty (I think it's either a virus, nutrient deficiency, or water issue.)
I've tried to underwater them, but all that does is fray the leaves or droop them. I've put nutrients into the ground with some gypsum and it's hard to tell.
I can't take a pic right now because its raining, but I'll post one later.
My pumpkins have started a patch, the tomatoes are growing good, and most of my sunflowers are 6Ft tall.
I had one cucumber planted last year, I didn't have time this year to do the garden, but my entire 12x4 bed is now a cucumber bush. How do I get rid of this for next year?
Tree collard cuttings and malabar spinach seedlings under some very jerry-rigged shade cloth. Dirt underneath is coffee grounds/egg shells/dead wood/leaves, manure compost, garden soil, then mulch. Hopefully that lasts a while.
yea i believe so, I will try to get these out to get a fall squash crop. I will dry them out for a week . They are one of the easiest plants to grow, so it is worth a shot. Thank you
normally you plant after the last freeze
if you don't have freezes idk
check here: https://www.plantmaps.com/
I'm not from around here and don't want to shit up your board with a dumb thread so I'll just leave this here.
I've got a lot of unkempt brush around my propane tanks that I want to get under control. How to delete and prevent from growing back? The latter question being the more essential one, as I can dumbass brute force my way through clearing it but I'd hate to see it all be back by next year.
Thanks.
They will grow back unless you prevent them from growing back. Once you clear it out you can either lay something over the soil to block light, pave it, or plant grass. You will however have to mow it regularly if you plant grass.
Grass is probably optional if you mow it regularly as only those plants will thrive that are short or can recover quickly.
moronic question, but still wanted to ask: Can you partially automatize gardening (in a very small scale)
Another question, slightly less moronic: What books or resources can I consult to get into gardening. Lets suppose I only now plants need water, sunlight and fertile soil
Fastest vegetables from seed to harvest?
Herbs. My Cilantro plant is already flowering and I planted it on mothers day
Easiest way is to buy 'started' plants or start them inside in March depending on where you live and what you're planting. I grow
>Basil
>Cilantro
>Green Onion
>Strawberries
>Blackberries
>Zuchini
>Peppers
>Broccoli
>Green Beans
Zuch is easily the most invasive. It'll take over. Blackberries too you should grow them in their own planter. Brocolli is just huge. Better off using a field. Peppers are probably the easiest to grow. You literally just plant the started plant in the dirt and water it. A few months later peppers come out. I only have 5-6 small planting boxes about 1 meter across each. I'd love to get a whole garden that takes up half my yard but I do not have a fence and deer, opossums, coyotes, and bunnies would probably eat my shit.
Grow plants around the edge that repel those and spray oils from herbs that repel them. Or be like native Americans of ye olden days and grow squash vines with sharp thorns around the perimeter.
>Cilantro plant
its been two months its still not growing for me. Kinda weird potato and berries grow fast as hell but anything else doesn't work for me.
whats a plant for winter except potato? Corn?
Wheat. Corn is summer growing
I can't grow bell peppers and I feel moronic, everyone tells me it's super easy.
Pic is my beans and eggplants, I feel they're too crowded, but they're all looking good so I haven't pulled anything out so far. There's also a couple of cucumber plants hidden in there, but I doubt they'll ever grow.
This is my first year growing veggies and gardening in general, had a decent beet harvest the past winter, plus a few radishes.
Yeah no luck with bell peppers here either
Tried several times too can't even get them an inch high
Get those calcium numbers up in the soil bell pepper bros. Seriously, go to a marble shop or stone yard and get a bucket of limestone dust.
>calcium numbers up
Can just pour milk on the m
ok, we get it. can we move on from all the eggplant milking?
Sure if you want pests.
My beets like partial shade, I plant them under my tomato plants and as the tomatoes grow they shade my beets nicely. If you can grow them near mushrooms/woodchips I get sweeter flavor
I grow them hydroponic at 22C, 10 hours of light and regular liquid plant food, 1.5mL per litre of water. They’re doing well, getting too tall at times but they can handle aggressive pruning. First 7 days directly under a lamp in rockwool, transplant at 14. I get them to flower by adding 50ppm of magnesium (pure it’s cheap because people use it for foot baths or something), but not sure if that’s really necessary.
Don’t know how that translates to planter boxes, but they definitely need warmth and a bit of humidity in the early stages.
it requires too much effort (watering every day) and the space takes up too much room. its way easier to just buy it than grow it and cheaper too.
growing its a meme. enjoy when bugs frick up your crop that you tended to daily for 6 months.
>it requires too much effort (watering every day)
>the space takes up too much room
>its way easier to just buy it than grow it and cheaper too.
I'm old enough to remember when people were good at bait on this god forsaken site
And somehow that guy was replaced by children spamming about dragon dildos and farting until you faint.
It doesn't
israelite spotted
post nose
Radish. Faster than herbs.
I love radish because even if you leave it in the ground you can eat the seed pods and leaves
radish, beets, chard.
Radish. You can cycle some radishes 6 - 7 times in a single season. you get your N application schedule down and they grow like crazy.
What material to tomatoe plants to stakes?
Best procedures
I use branches from my crap myrtle trees to make trellises and those round-ish tomato cages.
I go cut the new poles every fall and they grow back next spring.
They're ridiculously hard once dried so you definitely want to do all the bending and forming when they fleshly cut and still pliable.
Hi,
maybe check these .
Its called Tomatenhaken / tomatohook.
More or less a ladder that allows you to put your longer and longer growing tomatoplant to lay down .
But of course you need something above the plants to put that in use.
I used them outdoors once and yes it works good enough for me. But tomatos are mostly in the greenhouse.
I'm 6 minutes in I don't think this guy is speaking English
Bamboo. Free long-lasting and huge.
i like those spirals from aluminum expensive or galvanized.
you wind the tomato around it while it grows.
Seed spacing for cucumbers?
And other bigger veggies... pumpkins, squash, cantaloupe etc..
Mounds. One tiller distance apart.
How many days the veggies live with no water?
When it's hot as frick...
Peppers, tomatoes, cuckcumber,
Any good cheap self water stick drips?
get a garden hose punch a couple holes with a nail where you want them fixate them if needed. Use a valve that opens only for a hour for better stuff maybe try those magic wires as a alternative to the expansive electro valve.
Is a 1 foot raised bed deep enough for tomatoes
Yeah, roughly one cubic foot of soil can support a tomato plant/1.5 tomatoes quite well
Anyone here know anything about aquaponics? Im looking to get started unsure if its worth buying a small kit to learn or building one.
Use an clean IBC
if fish die you have 2 raised garden beds
This thread will never last here, there is a longstanding general on PrepHole where you might actually learn something.
Out is a very pretentious board. Lots of latte liberals who stop at Starbucks on their way to go “hike” (walk through a park). DIY is the working man’s board, although we also have many larpers who’s advice to you is “HIRE SOMEONE” (wtf)
The other thread is currently debating the pros and cons of planting heat resistant crops vs nuking the Chinese.
they believe in climate change and think white people are responsible for it. Cringe as frick.
Only morons believe in the climate change fairy. Let alone want to nuke people for it...
They also jump on your ass if you so much as don't bother reading their dumb long gay rules.
gayz.
/hgm/ is not typical PrepHole people
hgm discord hates non-whites and posts pictures with their guns
But the way you type shows that you're over 50 and have an iq lower than your age, so you aren't welcome
selfie or shut the frick up.
>shit colored hair
>shit colored eyes
You wouldnt be welcome on /hgm/ you dirty non-white phenotype
you must be some sort of moron? 99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair. Everything else is a genetic mutation.
oh yeah plus you still haven't proved shit about yourself. So really your just some pussy talking tough about something they know nothing about.
You should killyourself nobdy cares about you.
Again you know literally nothing. People like me and my coworkers keep your plumbing and lights on.
You should just shut your fat stinky mouth lol. Probably just a loser talking mad shit on his fat ass.
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
>"white people"
Keep coping
My genetics turned me into a 6 foot brick shit house built for heavy work.
You're such a pussy you can't even show your own face.
Do the world a favor and get off your ass and do something useful. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or a hospital for frick sake.
>Do the world a favor and get off your ass and do something useful. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or a hospital for frick sake.
Hey now, you dont know me.
I routinely donate materials and money to help keep the "intellectually disabled" folks employed.
Its the least I can do.
In fact, later today when I donate a giant steaming load of materials, ill do it in your honor.
Pic related, its me (a fellow white man) donating materials to you and your co-workers.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/exploding-toilet-leaves-brooklyn-man-afraid-flush-article-1.1481268
This is actually hilarious
I don't know how you would turn your toilet into a water bomb.
This guy is either unlucky or "special" like the maidenless baiter who posted the pic.
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
Maybe in Italy. Scandinavia, benelux, Germany and UK are north of 60% blondes. Eastern Europe prety high too.
Volunteering at a soup kitchen only helps Black folk.
morons, probably chinks or some shit and think they're whiter than whites.
Go trace your heritage somewhere else mutts.
I am of Northern European ancestry, and think Central Europeans are swarthy subhumans and everyone south of them are literally Black folk.
I am Dutch. Vast majority of Dutch people are some variety of blonde with some redheads.
Anyway lets get back to vegetables you homosexual femboy fricking degenerate.
>99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
You and I have different definitions of white.
>you must be some sort of moron? 99% of white people have brown eyes and black hair.
Maybe in muttmerica, I literally never met someone with brown eyes until I was 19 and very few who had black hair
if you can't grow it all out please fricking shave
I'm 20, my beard is still growing. At the very least I take comfort in knowing I have enough test to continue growing even late into my adulthood.
You're probably some smooth faced gay. Kek.
And yet, there are anons with actual orchards and homestead gardens that mog whatever garden you may have.
Go ahead and bump yourself silly, everyone else who is interested will go off to PrepHole once they realize you are the only one here bumping.
These threads pop up every year and have never ever survived here.
Case in point, you get morons like lurking in these threads.
He is sort of right, the demographic on this board are working class guys and tradies.
You know, the type of guys who would laugh in your face when you tell them you are taking up gardening as a hobby.
Not conducive to the green thumb types who like to play around with flowers.
>working class guys and tradies.
>T. wienersucking tradie 30 years
A. I'm not OP moron
B. I'm a tradie. I work in a shit plant. No one there would ever laugh at someone for gardening. A few of the guys have taken up growing plants in one of filtering rooms. Ya know in the moist human shit.
They thought it would be funny to sprinkle seeds as a joke and they ended up sprouting. So now we pour water on them to feed em. They get sun from the windows and skylight.
It seems like you're just a prick who hates the working class and DIY (why are you even on the board then?)
>It seems like you're just a prick who hates the working class and DIY (why are you even on the board then?)
If thats what you took from my post, its fitting you work in a shit factory. I dont think you are smart enough to do anything else. Maybe drywall?
Not all trades are equal, and quite frankly you dont really belong on PrepHole.
You are about on equal footing as this homosexual
who works on a computer from his house.
You arent tradies, you arent actually working men, you dont have mechanical prowess like everyone else.
You try to project pride about PrepHole despite neither of you actually working in a trade that demands it.
You are both about as useful as a garbage truck driver.
I’m actually worth 2-3x as much as a garbage truck driver according to our yearly salary kek
Is that because you come home smelling 2-3x worse than a garbage truck driver?
>You are both about as useful as a garbage truck driver.
not either of them, but, garbage truck driver is pretty useful, you sound like an elitest prick
When was the last time you asked a garbage man to come help build or repair something?
He drive a fricking dump truck for a living
The garbage men at my lake house don’t take anything unless it all fits in the big can the city provides. God forbid they get out. The garbage men at main home are based. Still a job a moron/convict could do but they throw away everything. Took 3 whole mattresses
based
I hate people shitting on blue collar workers so much it's fricking unreal
t. limp wristed engineer, but my father taught me to always respect working men
>DIY is the working man’s board, although we also have many larpers who’s advice to you is “HIRE SOMEONE” (wtf)
Arent you the guy who works from home on a computer all day?
kek
Yes. That doesn’t make me wrong. I don’t go to POL and tell them not to care about politics. I don’t understand why people come here and tell people to hire others kek
Just because you said that im going to come back to this thread every day until it shuts down and post something
PrepHole is the designated leftist containment board of PrepHole, this is well-known if you aren't a newbie
How ta grow watermelon, an grape soda?
I am growing cherry tomatoes, zucchini, sugar snap peas, potatoes, Swiss chard, and eggplant. I hadn’t grown anything for many years. Tomatoes and zucchini are doing very well. Sugar snap is fine but I started it too late and started too few plants. I feel like the eggplant isn’t going to work out. I started them indoors like everything else but the hardening off moving them outside was rough. A lot of leaves got eaten by bugs and they just haven’t taken off growing.
I am preparing for next year, trying to transition from raised beds to no dig. I’ve gotten a lot of horse manure from a local horse farm to bulk up my compost heaps.
not to get political, but if you haven't started a garden yet you absolutely need to. there have been like 30 or so food plants burned to the ground this year alone. if you can't provide your own food, don't count on it being at the store for any price.
make a basic garden. i don't care what you grow, just grow something, anything. use window boxes as small raised beds if you have to. pots, buckets, window boxes, lined crates, anything can be used to grow plants in as long as the material isn't toxic.
herbs are really easy for the most part, radishes grow almost instantly and can easily be pickled, carrots grow a lot slower but are still doable. almost anyone can fit one or two pepper plants somewhere. lettuce can and should be grown in seeding trays, and not allowed to grow to maturity. eat it while it's still small and it's very tender. tomatoes are best grown in inverted compound buckets, but they can be grown upright in beds too. companion planting works. also, learn to preserve what you grow. it is much, much easier than you think and the only real limitations are product availability and space in your home.
>there have been like 30 or so food plants burned to the ground this year alone. if you can't provide your own food, don't count on it being at the store for any price.
I support people growing food and I grow my own, but I doubt anybody is going to be able to feed themselves from their garden in any serious capacity.
I could probably feed myself for a couple of days at most, and I'd probably end up with oxalic acid poisoning from my diet being 80% chard.
This. A garden is fun. Nothing more. You aren’t living off the land unless you have a farm. If you have a farm you ain’t on PrepHole. No time.
t. Worked on a farm before. Hard work!
>A garden is fun. Nothing more.
It can definitely supplement your regular food sources and make up where supply fails and make things a little nicer, but it's nothing beyond that.
Right now lettuces in my country are like $12 each because of some bullshit, but the ones in my garden are free, and frankly much nicer.
Same with tomatoes a few months ago, $10+ a kg, but I had more than I knew what to do with in my garden.
But you can't live on lettuce and tomato.
>But you can't live on lettuce and tomato
Why not? Vegetarians do it All the time
The thing is, if you’re a vegetarian than by default you are also actually gay. There is a 100% correlation with how much meat you eat: how gay you are. This is why I eat meat with every meal, to ensure I never become a fudge packer
I don't know man you're pretty gay tho. You might just be eating wiener and hallucinating chicken or something.
Personally i eat my femboys ass before every meal and have him suck me off after.
Also pic related. Making stair shaft in work. You would probably cry for daddy and shit yourself if you ever attempted my work.
>You would probably cry for daddy and shit yourself if you ever attempted my work.
Is that when you would eat my ass?
bro you're a nasty fricking fat guy. My slim fem femboy is my only love.
You, heh. I would give a crack head 20$ to rape you.
Enjoy those aids.
>I would give a crack head 20$ to rape you.
Leave your coworkers out of this.
This scat fetish discussion is between you and me.
You need to get some b***hes, maidenless baiter. 🙂
I'm actually loving smearing your face into the dirt lonely baiter.
My femboy is also sucking my dick right now as a morning wakeup call.
See I breed boy pussy and you cum into socks.
We are not the same.
Fake and gay. No one likes you, not even other fans. You beat each other all the time because you're angry misfits.
Bro your life is tragic. No woman, no femboy, no garden, no father, no hope.
What do you even have to live for at this point? Posting bait to the DIY boards? Os that it?
I like how he doesnt realize he's talking to two different people
Okay still eating meat and not living off tomatoes whatever you see Bruce
I eat a lot of meat but I'm really gay.
He's talking about red meats chicken, fish, pork, etc...
Not meat as in wiener meat you degenerate
Yeah I’m saying if you’re counting on a garden to help you in a doomsday prepper scenario you’re a dumbass. It definitely would help in the short term. 2004 blackout. 2020 Covid food shelves empty, etc, but after a few months you’ll be hungry too lol
what kind of moron are you?
Don't listen to this enormous fricking idiot it's obvious he knows nothing about nothing and has no balls to prove anything he's talking about.
Considering my family has been farming and working hard labour for generations I would say gardening is a incredibly smart idea.
Just get a few small animals like chickens , cats and dogs (to protect your farm from pests), and maybe a few others like goats or some shit.
Can/preserve all of your food and always keep a stock of seeds too.
You're going to be far better off than this mouth breathing keyboard warrior who probably has only one useful skill and thats cumming into socks so the world doesn't have to bear any of his ilk after he dies.
Nice reddit spacing
Bro morons like you have been accusing me of tourism for the longest time.
Yeah of course I'm a tourist moron. This site suddenly exploded in popularity by pure logic at least 30-40% of the people on here now are.
But reddit? You think proper grammar and formatting belongs to reddit? You must be a reddit loser to think that shit.
Nice reddit spacing
Chicken and goats isn’t a home garden, so for instance this is my peppers and zucchini’s. It’ll give our family of 5 food for a bit, but not if shtf. Most people don’t have all our gardens. Again, all I’m saying is if shit truly did hit the fan and the supply chain was shut down for like 6-12 months, your garden might give you a little head start but ultimately unless you’re raising chickens and have a few acres and are “tractor” farming you probably can’t self sustain.
Agree that that guy is a moronic troll autists tho
Well yeah can't argue there, my point was never really that you could sustain food forever.
Just that spending time you would be using to watch tv or jacking off instead on gardening is pretty useful. I mean you are supplementing your diet with organic food you grew and know all about, learning a useful skill, and getting good physical work in.
This moron is saying shit like "oh waaahhh u habe to water plants" like hydroponics don't exist. Like rain doesn't exist. Lol!
Really if you want to have a secure food source talking to local farmers and getting a community together to trade with those farmers is the best choice.
When shit hits the fan they'll keep farming and with the communitys help they will have enough to support everybody.
That's just my two cents tho, Lol.
>I mean you are supplementing your diet with organic food you grew
I saturate my vegetables in so much synthetic fertiliser and pesticide they're probably radioactive
it is meant to buffer more than anything. you feed yourself with gardened shit for vitamins and hunt for meat
Op here, what a great interactive conversation with great questions and answers and ideas let's keep it up. And only a couple gaygits snuck itt not to bad
How to make some good homemade fertilizer? No access to animal crap, so other types of fertilizers
urine
>urine
Human piss??!
This a meme or really work I can just piss in a jug and poor it on my plants?
I use to piss on a small bush every day as a kid and the fricker turned brown
It's true. One of the main commercial fertilizers is urea in dry pellet form. I believe the microbes and bacteria present in the soil convert the urea into nitrogen through a process.
You need to dilute it before you pout it on your plants, but yes. Human urine is a great fertilizer.
Ok I'm going to start pissing on my plants better no be fricking with me
I've seen plants survive on human piss alone (as for human shit. It needs to be treated first. Too much acid and protein. Throw it in hole and let the bacteria take care of it.)
>t. parasites
You would need to know soil composition and the plants you aspire to grow in order to know whether or not urine is going to be beneficial or not.
compost
after 2 years you sieve it and have great fertilizer.
the best thing about it is it form Clay-Humus complexes which improve the soil structure.
he planted everything at the same time, its not good.
That's a stock photo
Does anybody know anything about growing kelp?
Find a good spot and grow perennials.
Asparagus, thyme, good king henry, sorrel, ramps, japanese knotweed.
people grow Japanese knotweed by choice? I can’t get rid of this shit
Yeah, it is edible.
If you get good sun, grow sunflowers. They produce a lot of seeds and look pretty cool too. 🙂
They take off like crazy too. And draw all the pests to them (and don't give a shit if a few leaves get eaten up.)
Very hardy happy plants.
I do I just don't care, plus im having my brains sucked of my dick.
I grow a garden with tomatoes and cucumbers. They produce a lot. I like it. It is fun and relaxing for me.
Should be growing radish
>zone 8
>average is 100°F
>decided to water my mint/basil once a week
guess how that went
they both perked up after getting sprayed/watered today at least
automatic watering systems for extremely hot areas are a good idea, consider putting in a mister to run during the height of the day for an hour to keep things thriving
I can't tell how much water my mint needs. I planted it maybe last week and water it multiple times every day I think. It gets direct sunlight a little over 3 hours but the top inch of soil dries out in maybe 30-45 minutes during that time.
What are signs of underwatering vs. overwatering? I've read that crispy = underwatered and wilting/limp = overwatered but I could be wrong. Kind of sucks that I can't find info for my climate online very efficiently
that sounds correct for mint. Mint is very heat tolerant and loves water too, so it should be difficult to overwater
Do yall think there's enough room here for a cranberry hibiscus tree? I'm also tempted to get a long planter box next to the window, I haven't checked how much light that area gets but I'm pretty sure its somewhere between 3-6 hours
If yall have any suggestions for what I could do here feel free, I'm in zone 8b
Thanks
3-6 hours of light means that you should go after shade plants
What veggie plants don't like human piss?
I now I should piss on my tomatoes peppers and cucumbers but which veggies should I not piss on?
Just dilute 10x with water. 20x for seeds. Something like that.
Is mulch mixed in with my soil okay?
Can I do like half and half in a raised bed to save on soil costs
Watch youtube gardening videos. Often the recommendation is fill the bottom with mulch / cardboard and put the soil on top. purchased soil is often nutrient free unless you specifically purchase miracle grow soil or something
Yes, you can. It's fine. It's actually good. Keep in mind that as the mulch decomposes over time, the volume of the medium in the bed will decrease slightly.
>come into thread
>90% is off topic garbage
>other 10% are very stupid unanswered questions
This thread is bad and you should feel bad
Eat my ass
>more scat talk
You are very offputting
91% offtopic, 9% very stupid unanswered questions
How do!I tie my tomatoes to a stake? Worried about hurting them
I just moved to a new house, garden is mostly grass.
I got an idea: I just turned the grass upside down, so it dies and feeds future vegetables.
I plan to add ~10cm of soil over it.
Is it actually a good idea? Should I just get rid of the grass before planting?
Check this out you want fertilizer right?
Just piss on your plants...noy joking I thought it was bull shit too but anons have recommended it and I did my own research it's real
Piss on your plants bro
It's not just about fertilizer (got a lot of compost), it's about being lazy and not having to move all that grass if I don't have to.
Just put the grass you mowed into a container with water and let it ferment for a day or 2 ,you then use that water as fertilizer.
How do I protect my veggie garden from getting blown up by OTAN/NATO V2 stealth bombers ?
Will the s300 be enough ?
>not taking the s400 pill
What kind of pumpkins are we all growing this year? picrel.
mine all died. maybe i planted them too soon. theyre not summer plants are they
speaking of poopie, i used deer feces from the park next door for fertilizer. was i wrong? should i take the sardine pill?
I save seeds each season, and I'm incredibly mean to my plants. Very little weeding or additional watering. I also direct sow everything. After a few crap years of insect damage and weeds crowding out, the survivors' progeny can handle local conditions and my gardening style. I usually plant in the summer to get late fall/winter storage pumpkins. They absolutely are summer plants (summer squash, anyone?) and summer-planted ones for winter storage. Maybe try a different variety or cross varieties until you get something that works for you?
>letting natural selection find a set of seeds that will grow in your garden
based as hell
I was inspired by Joseph Lofthouse. I don't like how far he takes the blenda-up idea because I think that after a certain point, you need to start selecting for beautiful produce, and he comes off as a boomer crossdresser or something, but the method of growing where you plant a bunch of stuff in a shitty climate, neglect the plants as much as possible, then plant the seeds of the survivors really appeals to me. I don't want to build a special growing facility on my field. The grow facility is my fricking field, and my vegetables need to grow in it without weeding, herbicides, or pesticides.
My wife got frustrated a few times and wanted to give up and get grow lights, indoor starting tomatoes, weedcloth, etc. but I've persevered and I like the resulting produce.
I'd like to start on kale next. I saved seeds from some kale that overwintered with no issues. I'd like to hybridize it with some other winter kale https://www.rareseeds.com/ornamental-fringed-mix-kale and maybe anything else that catches my fancy, then replant the F2s and F3s and so on until it becomes its own thing. I'm pretty sure that kale is one of those vegetables that can suffer from inbreeding depression, so if I leave a certain amount of variation in my kale, it should be able to keep itself in check. (at least in theory)
Incredibly based.
I might try this in a small rough patch in my garden and have different species of plants compete against each other. Only the most vigorous and hardy plant will survive and outcompete the others.
Any tips on how to get something like this started and what about the really pesky / fast growing weeds that can outcompete crops?
>insect damage
I've been fighting snails and slugs for two years in my garden until I've had enough and started using iron phosphate pellets. Killed them all within a week and this year I'll finally have some veggies and fruits. They always ate everything the previous years. Long story short, the previous owner didn't take care of his property and it was overrun with snails and slugs which I then tried to control without any chemicals (picking + beer traps mainly) but it wasn't too effective.
I'll use squash as my example since they're easy to cross and select. Look up how Joseph Lofthouse does his, also. Carol Deppe has a whole book on it.
Problem: Vine Bore Beetle eats my squash every year.
Solution: Buy packets of compatible squash (there are 3 types of squash: moschata, pepo, and maxima. There's also mixta but nobody cares.) I bought moschata.
Plant moschatas in a cleared patch, in hills, as you do. Water to germinate them, as you do. If weeds are truly horrendous, put down some newspaper and weigh it with stones to give the seeds a head start.
Once germinated, ignore as much as possible. Don't weed or water much if at all. Grow to fruit.
Harvest and make pumpkin muffins! Save and wash seeds.
I also select for storage time because I want to cook with squash all winter long. Rotten ones don't get saved seeds.
Next year, plant saved seeds. If you planted more than one variety year 1, you'll have F1 (generation 1) hybrids. Do it all again. The survivors get harvested, eaten, seeds saved. If anything tastes bad or does bad, don't save it.
F2: you'll have weird mutt plants with different traits. Don't save anything you dislike. Keep doing this. After many (like 7?) seasons, you should have a stable variety if you felt like selecting for uniform shape/size/color. After fewer seasons, you'll have something that can grow the way you grow it since everything else died.
My moschata mix this year: thai kang kob saved seed, dickenson (the canned libby's stuff), and I couldn't find canada crookneck or I'd have thrown that in with it.
I heard squash tastes like shit
>heard
So you've never actually eaten squash, nor a pumpkin pie, then?
So pumpkins is squash eh? I had no idea
Yep. Pumpkins is more of a term for squash that look a certain way (though they may be from unrelated subtypes such as C. Pepo and C. maxima) but squash are Curcubita Pepo, Curcubita maxima, Curcubita mixta, and Curcubita moschata.
Maxima is mostly big ones, watery, hollow inside and good for carving and for livestock and dog food, though there are plenty bred specifically for good taste. Very colorful and pretty.
Mochata is for taste (butternut) and storage time. It'll turn tan in a few months, probably. Delicious.
Pepo is lots of summer squash plus a couple outlier pie and storage varieties.
Mixta? Nobody remembers it, but there's a couple highly regional favorites like striped cushaw. If you're in the region for them you probably know about it.
You can plant one of each type next to each other without crossing. You can plant multiples of one type and cross them.
Grilled / baked pumpkin is delicious. It's very similar to sweet potatoes.
bro if you like pumpkin you'll like squash. It's not as sweet but sliced thinly, grilled, with some olive oil, salt, pepper - squash also fricking stores FOREVER in a cold cellar. You can have squash properly last you 8 months. It's a very good shtf food but unfortunately it requires some prep to keep good and to also cook. There are a shitton of varieties, I strongly suggest you check them out.
Don't overcook your summer (immature harvested) squash or puree it into a soup. Grill pieces in oil and herbs so they get a little black on the grill marks. It's delicious.
*DO puree it into a soup. I'm drunk
I mean I threw some pumpkin seeds in my yard as a joke one year and a couple months later I had pumpkins for halloween.
Golden Nugget and Kent
🙂
Didn’t even notice there was a garden thread, this might be a better place, anyone have an idea on
?
They are capsicum annuum btw (Bolivian rainbow chillis)
>Didn’t even notice there was a garden thread
You obviously didnt notice that none of the thread is actually garden talk, and the OP doesnt know what hes talking about
Youll get a real answer
Quit shilling your shitty ass thead in OUR diy thread.
Real men and or women who work hard on gardens post here
No get back to your troony thread and stay out
>guy posts question in /hgm/ thread 4 hours ago, already has 3 separate responses with some back and forth
>instead of giving the guy an answer, you sperg out proving the post right
like pottery
So anyways,
Does anyone breed their own plant varieties? Last year, I grew various tomatoes close together. This year, I planted last year's fruit's seeds plus another variety with qualities I favor. In many seasons from now, I hope for a custom tomato.
I'd love to see that! Probably won't because you're anonymous... I'll make sure to just picture a cool new tomato in my head a couple years from now.
Make your own and also don't show me! We have lost something like 90% of all vegetable varieties in the history of agriculture. Most of our produce is Big Ag Bullshit which lacks flavor, nutrition, and culture. Make a variety that suits your locale, your gardening style, and your tastes. It's really sad that we've lost so much, but we can also make new, wonderful things going forward.
Two days no water ok? It's really hot
How do you grow potatoes
You're basically supposed to cut them up and put them in the ground. Just make sure each piece has at least one eye. Buy seed potatoes if you wanna be fancy. They're one of the most forgiving edible things that you can grow. That said, I planted a bunch this spring and they just rotted. Probably because my garden has no sun.
How many weeks from start to harvest potatoes?
depends on varieties.
"earlies" are 10 to 12 weeks from first emergence
"second earlies" or mid seasons are like 12 - 15 weeks. There's some weird distinction and regional variation there.
Maincrops are a minimum of 16 weeks and that's for small harvests. Some go out to a full 6 months.
you can usually get away with plating earlies in early July if soil temps aren't too high, depending on zone. first frost is end of October for me so I can actually stretch my season a bit if I'm feeling risky. You won't get an optimum harvest but you'll get something.
There a couple no-till, no-bury methods for potatoes. The roots can usually deal with clay alright, so if you "pre-mound" with a loose compost mulch over a bed, and do a shallow planting in the top of the mound, you'll still get decent tuber bulk. You can keep mounding for indeterminate, or you can go easy and just plant a determinate variety,
There's a couple guys on youtube who have demos of this method. Just be mindful that drainage might be an issue beneath the compost mound if it's heavy clay.
I have clay soil and I planted potatoes and i got the worst yield ever. Size of a quarter potatoes, when they should be the size of a fist at least.
Take sprouted storebought potatoes and put them in the ground with a couple inches of soil on top. They're ready when the foliage dies off, but you can carefully steal potatoes from beneath the plant before that.
Well-rotted chicken compost
Fragrant herbs to keep mammals away. Spray hot pepper water to keep bugs away
Good fertilizer to buy? How much?
Also what are some good pesticides to buy to keep bugs and animals away? And how much?
Seriously how often should I water the plants with piss mixed water? Once a week?
Every two weeks until they're producing fruit then more. Eventually your learn to read the plants and added it as needed.
Hi frens, I'm currently growing Habaneros, Cilantro, Cherry Tomatoes, Sugar Snaps, and Big Thai Hybrids. My seedlings are doing okay, they were planted on 6/4, and I transplanted them to individual containers this last Friday. I've noticed a few of my habs are looking a tiny bit yellow - could this be overwatering? I mixed in a fox farm big grow fertilizer when I transplanted, so I don't think it's nutrients. They are currently getting about 16-18 hours of sunlight a day.
These are the rest of them. I have about 45 ish and need approximately the best 18 viable plants. Planning on moving them to my newly built greenhouse in about 10-14 days.
Looking good bro
>Habaneros
is it a bit late in the season? I don't know, I've only done sweet peppers, but I usually have those in by June to hit late Sept/early October for harvest. I've heard the Big Thais are fast.
A little late but it's hot here (like 90s) until the end of September, then 80s and 70s in October with occasional cold snaps, and an occasional heat wave. I guess what I'm saying is - I still have a solid 2.5 to almost 3 months, and I'm thinking the greenhouse will extend that a bit.
That's not as bad as I thought, Well shit, I was going to try some other peppers this year but didn't get around to starting things until mid june, thought it would be too late. I'll have to try again next year.
Go to the store and buy peppers that have already been growing for a few weeks if you want
Seedlings and starters have been cleared out near me. Gardening exploded with COVID, seems like everything that isn't straight seed is gone the same day it arrives. I don't live near a big city, though.
Also growing habaneros
Need some tricks and pointers so they don't for when I transplant to main garden.
How big should they get before transplant?
What fertilizers they like and shit
I got the fox farm trio. I've heard good things about it and I'm hoping it helps. I'm planting in raised beds in a greenhouse with an automated hydroponics solution, Hoping that will be enough to keep them all alive
> They are currently getting about 16-18 hours of sunlight a day.
How is life in the Sahara these days?
Lol fair point - actually under grow lights. I think in my part of the midwest they'd still average a solid 11 though, at least right now, we are almost at the longest day of the year I believe.
Saplings have enough nutrition from seed and soil to last at least 3-5 weeks without fert.
It's probably you ofer fertilizing them.
+
Maybe a water issue (if you aren't sure just make sure temp is good and the aoil is only moist and not wet.)
who else has a compost heap? do you actually get heat out of your compost? I have a ton of nitrogen in mine but never get heat from it. it's mostly grass clippings, dried leaves, kitchen scraps, and horse manure.
Yes my compost heap was steaming hot but I didn't do anything with it to extract the heat. The trick is to get the ratio between greens and woody stuff right. A dry compost heap is a sad compost heap, always keep it moist and keep the greens content as high as possible without getting it smelly/slimy. The more woody stuff is in there the easier it dries out in my experience.
I've had good success composing chipped conifer branches with their needles + grass + kitchen scraps. It turned into nice black hummus within a year or two.
Turning the heap also improves it significantly in my experience.
I'm hungry but my veggies don't have any food on them??
Cucumbers squash?
Related but only distantly and therefore not squash. Still tasty, though. Good on tea sandwiches.
Do those seed trays that the roots grow through work? You trust them to plant directly into the garden in transplant?
Are there any places that sell irrigation supplies cheaper than big box stores? I need to install a few thousand feet of drip lines and don't want to get raped if I don't have to. Also, if I connect them to rainwater tanks will I need a pump to pressurize or will gravity work if my raintank is higher elevation than my garden?
Yes!
Why the frick is this thread so SLOW??
Because my barley takes time to grow
Because you are the only one here samegayging and bumping
Wtf what is wrong with this garden thread?
Don't you diy cucks like gardens?
You to good to make your own garden
>Don't you diy cucks like gardens?
This is the working mans board
Gardens are for women, the trad wife who stays at home.
They arent for real men, go watch any gardening youtuber and its some panty waist milquetoast homosexual with a wife manlier than he is.
That's why most historical etchings portray a man sowing a field.
Stop being such a homosexual and go grow a squash
He's not into squash
But those arent squashes, those are aubergines from the nightshade family. Squashes are from the pumpkin family.
Hence >he's not into squash
>mfw I can grow all sorts of long vegetables to shove into my anis after a long hard day of watering my flowering with a little straw hat and pink gloves on
You have a caret where it doesn't belong, sir.
If you've ever been to a farm far (aka if you're not a skill-less urbanite zoomer), you'll notice that men usually enter largest vegetable contests and women enter the best jam/cake making contests.
Not having any men in your agriculture is an African thing. Women do the agriculture there while the men stab each other and destroy white and chinese-built infrastructure.
*farm fair
Anon keeps wanting to judge the "aubergines" in strange and unconventional ways
I too have found them men can fit much larger vegetables into their anus than the wife.
You would think otherwise seeing how both are 300lbs, but that’s just fat, the frame underneath the layers of fat is what matters.
>I too have found them men can fit much larger vegetables into their anus than the wife.
It's time to turn off the internet and do hard labor until you turn straight again
>do hard labor until you turn straight
Why every thing turn into sexism and racism with you c**ts?
This one post sums up the problem with white people
10/10 sentence 1 vs sentence 2 troll.
>The best part about aubergines is they're dark. Well, the big ones anyway.
I'm looking for a hobby. Not enough space to grow veggies because I live in a block of flats, so technically unrelated, but I don't know where else to ask:
Any of you know anything about bonsai?
In the absence of capacity to grow anything utilitarian I want to do something extremely dumb, like bonsai'ing a marijuana.
Op here I wanted to have a nice tasteful diy garden thread and you pieces of shit ruined is with bigotry.
I no longer care if this thread dies. This is why we can't have nice things.
Black person
Make like a tree and GET
don't want you're bigotry here
First year really gardening. I have only a small city garden but getting around 20 small cucumbers, 10 apples, about a kilogram of raspberries (red and orange), some small herbs and enough rosemary for my entire family and then some.
For some reason pear tree did flower but got no pears, even though it’s self pollinating and produced a single pear last year. Kiwi is struggling too. Fig tree produces some small fig like things but they fall off before they become real figs.
Do bell peppers like piss
I so I'm going to start pissing on them
How to grow beats?
What do you make compost out of?
Leftover soil, leaves, plant clippings, some coffee grounds, the occasional banana peel, dead plants. Basically everything organic, but I try to keep it low sweet fruits because of bugs. If I get a fly infestation I throw in a tobacco plant and they leave
Best things that can survive through both hot moist summers and cold dry winters?
Depends on your hardiness zone
Op here threads moronic slow boring uninteresting
Thanks to all who contributed real info ideas and conversation
But this isn't going to work
Let thread die or someone else take over
Arent there 3 other generals like this in other boards?
and im pretty sure someone mentioned something about Wrong board, but ive never checked
There are soft-handed gays and women in those boards
Sounds fitting for a gardening general
and here you are
Maybe I’m cruising for boypussy?
I hate you people more than I hate proper homosexuals. The levels of delusion you blanket yourself with is staggering.
Leave OP alone, he isnt that bad of a guy
What would you do if you could not grow stuff in the ground? As in, every plant you put directly in the ground will stay stunted and anemic. And water and fertilizer you put on it will be nullified before the target plant can even use it? How would you grow food then?
Because that's the situation I find myself in. Wicking beds/barrels seem to be the answer.
>How would you grow food then?
Buy a large variety of seeds and see which ones grow best. Then keep the seeds of the healthiest, most vigorous plants and plant them the next season. Rinse and repeat until you've selectively bred a strain that is able to deal with your bad soil. Then focus on selecting for other traits: taste, amount of fruits and seeds or other variables that are beneficial for your area. Don't worry about keeping strains pure, you can always re-select for the traits you want.
Also till your soil and add home made compost to it, it helps a lot but takes time until you start seeing good results.
This is what I'm trying now because I also had very little luck with commercial seeds and plants in my soil. I'm hoping to breed plants that are adapted to my soil.
That would work in a lot of cases but not this. The soil is shit yes, hydrophobic sand with no water holding. But the root cause of the problem is the multiple 30m high eucalyptus trees on the other side of the back fence.
There is a word which I can't remember to describe the behavior of plants when they have mechanisms to suppress other plants in the area that might compete for resources. Like pine trees acidifying the soil with their needles. Well large eucalypts do the same thing. The main problem is the roots, they grow fast an are attracted to moisture. I had a pile of horse manure sitting on bare soil for 3 months. By the time I got around to using it the tree roots had reached the very top of the pile and each horse turd was a twisted ball of roots inside. Same thing happens if I put pots directly on the ground, the tree roots come up out of the ground and into the holes in the bottom of the pots and turn the potted soil into a block of tree roots. So any attempt to improve the soil is ultimately futile because the trees suck every little bit of goodness out of it about as quickly as you can put it in and turn the soil into sand. Also they are constantly dropping leaves all year round which have eucalyptus oil in them which coats the grains of sand and makes it hydrophobic. It can rain for 5 days straight and the sand is still bone dry less than 1 inch down. Lastly there is a barrage of twigs, gum nuts and other little hard things constantly raining down from the canopy which poke holes in leaves or the larger branches crush any smaller fragile plants.
Wicking beds are the answer, a body of soil completely separated from the ground with it's own water reservoir built in. I've got a couple of big ones, but used sub-standard plastic sheet for the reservoir which got a hole in it. The gum trees found the hole. Turned 2 cubic meters of good soil into a mass of tree roots in less than 1 year, the root was as thick as my thumb going in the hole.
>But the root cause
heh
>thick as my thumb going in the hole
this is a blue board
>beds/barrels
yes
Sunflowers bloomed, leaves are getting yellow so either thats normal or im overwatering.
either way one if them is still purple and small.
No one gives a shit about your stupid shitty sunflowers here use the thread over in PrepHole
I hope your sunflowers die! Frick you
A degree of yellowing is normal later on in the year, close to harvest once the flower has done its thing and gone off. If you've got a long time to go and the leaves don't seem scorched, stop fricking watering it and cut off the limp shitleaves.
Why is diy so incompetent to gardening
poop in it
what to do with blackbarries cuttings? Can I throw them on the compost after drying them out in the sun?
What's the difference between compost and fertiliser? When should you use them and how are you supposed to apply them?
>What's the difference between compost and fertiliser?
They're basically the same thing. Compost is made from natural items while fertilizer is made by chemist.
>When should you use them and how are you supposed to apply them?
That depends on the plant and the type of fertilizer. I use compost at my farm and apply it a few times a year. Fertilizer has labels with directions on when to apply. Different plants require different application rates as well.
you can poison plants with fertilizer, but compost and worm castings you can't.
Plus compost and worm castings contain beneficial microorganisms that will boost your plants in almost everyway.
this is dirt in texas (after a rainstorm). say something nice about it
also any idea on how to remove that old fencepost? i removed most of the concrete around it but it is still 100% stuck in the ground not budging
YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT
I honestly thought u wer talking about the pipe and was concerned you were gonna bust it... LOL!
That's the HOA lawn pipe that is in my yard because I extended my fence out last year. It's broken all over the neighborhood because it's made out of shitty 1/2 inch pvc drain pipe that isn't designed for water pressure
piss all over the dirt anon it's the only way
Anyone tried making anaerobic fertilizer?
The method I'm thinking about is the following:
>get bucket
>add plant clipping and other biomass
>add rainwater
>seal bucket
>wait a year
>use stinky water as fertilizer
I made a bucket like this a few days ago but I'd like to know if any of you have done this already and how it turned out.
Why would you want to use leachate for fert? I mean I guess you could use it as compost starter. But even then worm castings cost 30x more than compost for a reason.
Worm guts eat bad bacteria and fungi and poop out the better stuff.
If you want to be lazy about it take a bunch of food scraps and a few pounds of worms and dump them in your garden.
>Why would you want to use leachate for fert?
It's not just a leachate, the bacteria break down the biomass into a liquid goop if left long enough. It is said to be a great fertilizer.
Similarly you can do the same anaerobic process with moist plant matter instead of creating a liquid. The result looks like store bought compost apparently.
Sure but worms do it way faster. They turn a decomposing job that takes 2 years into one that takes a couple of months. Plus they produce plant hormones, beneficial microbes, etc.
They boost harvest in size, quality, and reduce underground pests (those beneficial microbes can eat pests alive.)
What I'm really asking is why you don't just throw some worms into the mix?
I'll probably make a worm compost bin some time, but I like the idea of this one because you just make a bucket and forget about it until next year. Really low effort and bother. I also already have a normal wooden compost "bin".
I have no clue about worms. We have freezing winters here and I would need to figure out how to keep them alive or get the next generation going after the winter and read more into it. Seems nice and all but a lot more effort than the set and forget bucket, even if it may be more efficient in terms of time to completion and perhaps even better quality fertilizer.
Either way, I'm just trying it out to see if it's any good. It's said to be great fertilizer.
I have been trying to grow sorghum since april-may and while I am able to get them to germinate via paper towel method, once I get them in pot they never seem to sprout even after two to three weeks. My first and second attempts failed more than likely due to too much sun exposure, giving them fertilizer when too young, and fungal nats so I decided to get boiling water to sterilize the soil and dried it out in the sun for days before I did my third attempt which was just watering the soil before transferring my third batch (which have really good roots by the way) into the soil and after 15 days they haven't sprouted at all, what's going on?
did you
>strip pulp off the seeds?
>plant it 1.5 inches deep?
>keep temperature around 70F-80F?
>keep it wet?
>have enough nitrogen?
i would just try a lot of different methods at once. have a batch in the shade, batch inside near a window, water some twice a day, some once a day, some every 2 days. i don't think you need fertilizer.
My Bolivian rainbow is finally getting flowers, but most of them wilt after a day or two and before they turn purple. Don’t they have to turn purple to produce a pepper eventually? And can I still fix this? I didn’t have any flowers for like 3 months and now suddenly am getting a lot of them at once (like 15 in 2 days).
what is your approach to parsley? I feel like i never have enough when I need it and it never recovers/rebounds when I use it. Should I plant a shit load of it?
I plant it outside when it stops freezing and I just grow all winter here. When I was young one plant was plenty for a 4 people household. We cut 3 or 4 of the larger ‘stems’ at a time. Not sure if they recover but it will get new stems. You have to cut from the outside, or the new small stems won’t get enough light
> grow all winter
Meant to say summer of course. As in between 8 and 28C
Whats the most plants in a 55l tub i can grow using kratky method might turn to recycling deep water culture bit later
have nft system in 90mm pipes want to try connect all up
nqld
it depends...what plants are you trying to grow
Tomato, chilli, zucc, eggplant, squash, caps, beans have 4 of each in each tub how many more can i get in each if i use hanging wireto grow vertically along a fence wondering most vper of anything 40x60cm 55lt tub
Thats what im trying to use drill hole in lid for pots with coir and perlite
A lot. Romaine lettuce will consume like 2L at a time. I’ve grown romaine, arugula, and peppers in 2.5L kratky pots each. Only thing is if one plant catches mold/disease all of them will get it.
Bees in my sunflowers!
And my veggies are coming along, too much chard though, can't eat anymore...
Blanch it, drain/dry and then freeze it. You can eat chard all year round this way. Thank me later.
Anyone here make a planter out of those black bins with the yellow lid? How about a "self-watering" one? I just moved and have more bins than I need for storage, want to set up some garden space on my roof.
is hilling potatoes necessary? i buried the seed potatoes about 5 inches deep to begin with. did not expect them to grow so fast
Yes. It helps production and it keep the top potatoes from turning green and hence inedible
We're in a multi-year drought and have secondary water restrictions. I can water 20 minutes twice a week.
Can I even grow vegetables?
how much water are you allowed for those 20 minutes? you can prolly plant something in a big grow bag and get away with waterting it ever other day. How hot is it by you these summer days? Are the plants going to be in direct sunlight for long periods, or are they shaded?
Right now it's mid-90's every day. And the water is whatever a hose sprinkler can produce in 20 minutes. I have a few smalls shaded spots but most of it is exposed to the sun.
I was thinking maybe I could get away with 4 days of ten minute watering sessions.
Wicking beds/barrels my man, you could grow a shit ton with that much water in wicking barrels. 100% of the water is used by the plants (if you mulch correctly to prevent evaporation) They take water from the reservoir as they need it. All you have to do is stick the hose in the fill point until it spills out the overflow pipe and you're good for another week.
I decided to throw some grocery store seeds into some soil I had laying around on a whim. Some bell peppers and tomatoes. The tomatoes seem to be progressing along fine, the green peppers seem to be stuck at this height. I planted them some time during the beginning or middle of May. Are the green peppers fricked or is this normal? I think I first germinated them in early April. This is the first time I've ever done a garden and I think I fricked up several ways at once, first them being planted maybe 12 inches from each other and the location starts going into shade around 2 or 3pm as the sun goes around the front of the house. The tomatoes just started flowering in the past few days so I'm going to rummage around in the woods for sticks to stake them to.
>Are the green peppers fricked or is this normal?
Not sure but mine are even smaller.
>them being planted maybe 12 inches from each other
Hmm seems fine to me, spreading them too much apart encourages weeds and is less efficient in terms of space. I didn't plant mine too close to each other because the soil is low quality (for now). I plan to plant mine about as close as you did yours for the next season, depending on the species.
>Hmm seems fine to me, spreading them too much apart encourages weeds and is less efficient in terms of space. I didn't plant mine too close to each other because the soil is low quality (for now). I plan to plant mine about as close as you did yours for the next season, depending on the species.
Yeah I've never done gardening before and I just tossed them into the ground after putting them in leftover ramen noodle cups with some soil in it to germinate. Once they got big enough I threw them in the ground. No idea how big a green pepper plant is supposed to be or what timeline they grow on. I just water it daily at this point unless its going to rain.
My current setup (I'm the guy that posted Habenaro seedlings above). Still waiting on those, they will occupy the other two bays. Trinidad Scorpions on the left, cherry tomatoes on the right. Hydroponics laid on soil but I'm considering using bricks to level instead. Anyone have any recommendations for topsoil to garden soil mix. I would say each container is 14 bags of miraclegro garden (1.5 cu ft) and then 21ish bags of generic topsoil (very nutrient sparse). I threw in slow release pellets as I mixed in the dirt, to hopefully get good nutrient spread.
Update to this, I tried a different bag of miraclegro soil (white and green instead of green and yellow) and the consistency and size of the particulate matter is way better. Kind of regret using the slightly lower cost garden soil now.
Guys its storming for a few days around here. You think my sunflowers, pumpkin, tomatoes will be okay? For reference Some of their flowers have been turning yellow and spotty (I think it's either a virus, nutrient deficiency, or water issue.)
I've tried to underwater them, but all that does is fray the leaves or droop them. I've put nutrients into the ground with some gypsum and it's hard to tell.
I can't take a pic right now because its raining, but I'll post one later.
My pumpkins have started a patch, the tomatoes are growing good, and most of my sunflowers are 6Ft tall.
I had one cucumber planted last year, I didn't have time this year to do the garden, but my entire 12x4 bed is now a cucumber bush. How do I get rid of this for next year?
Hoe it into the soil.
Alternatively chop them down with garden shears and throw them onto your compost pile and then hoe your bed.
I'll give that a try, thanks.
I hope the nets I ordered show up soon, this baby is getting too big for diapers. Trellissing the melons has been awesome so far!
sheep detected
No filth on my cantaloupes, just pure unblemished whiteness
if you have some old pantyhose those are also good for fruits
Tree collard cuttings and malabar spinach seedlings under some very jerry-rigged shade cloth. Dirt underneath is coffee grounds/egg shells/dead wood/leaves, manure compost, garden soil, then mulch. Hopefully that lasts a while.
i just got some of my first squash in, how long do i have before I can plant the seeds from it? few months? a year?
You can plant it right away, but does your environment allow it or will it get too cold before it can fruit?
yea i believe so, I will try to get these out to get a fall squash crop. I will dry them out for a week . They are one of the easiest plants to grow, so it is worth a shot. Thank you
thank you for the site, I will check it out
normally you plant after the last freeze
if you don't have freezes idk
check here: https://www.plantmaps.com/
What mystery plant is this? I got it from an Asian food store. I'm guessing Malabar spinach (Basella alba).
I'm not from around here and don't want to shit up your board with a dumb thread so I'll just leave this here.
I've got a lot of unkempt brush around my propane tanks that I want to get under control. How to delete and prevent from growing back? The latter question being the more essential one, as I can dumbass brute force my way through clearing it but I'd hate to see it all be back by next year.
Thanks.
They will grow back unless you prevent them from growing back. Once you clear it out you can either lay something over the soil to block light, pave it, or plant grass. You will however have to mow it regularly if you plant grass.
Grass is probably optional if you mow it regularly as only those plants will thrive that are short or can recover quickly.
cover area with stone/gravel or use a weed tarp and cover with thin layer of gravel
rip it out
weed tarp
mulch
Where can I get cardboard boxes to cover the grass on my lawn?
recycling bins behind retail centers
pallets next to trash bins are usually an indication that they're up for grabs also
moronic question, but still wanted to ask: Can you partially automatize gardening (in a very small scale)
Another question, slightly less moronic: What books or resources can I consult to get into gardening. Lets suppose I only now plants need water, sunlight and fertile soil