Vatniks are mocking the US for developing the world's first sixth-gen bomber too quickly

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's always projection.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even the russian boomers on the comment section are making fun of the author

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why compare anything?
      >Why worry?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He said why compare anything when it hasn't entered service yet. No need to be disingenuous.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every time I see this I just think of "MAYBE I KEEP GARAGE IN SUV"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are they so focused on making the bear looks like a gay furry

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why is the first thing you think of when you see a cartoon animal gay furry porn?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Natural side effect of exposure to internet radiation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not seeing it. Seems to be a problem on your side.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russians think Gachimuchi tier stuff is manly and not gay at all and what about the trannies getting married in the west huh shut the frick up wectoid.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He said why compare anything when it hasn't entered service yet. No need to be disingenuous.

        why are they so focused on making the bear looks like a gay furry

        A tractor. A fricking tractor. 21 century and a diesel tractor (and power liones - electrification was a gigantic propaganda thing in Soviet Russia) is still a symbol of technological advancement in the mind of a russian.

        They try, but cant really hide their mentality.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget the rocket
          S-P-A-C-E

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could be even funnier: tractor is russian symbol for emigration

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even more: the tanks ukranian gypsies used to take russian tanks

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is the tractor with smart russian running abroad.
          Podlivitsky (authour of those cringy caricatures and Country-Spheres) used to shit on putin before 2013 before he was bought by RIA.
          Some of his works have subtle trolling of kremlin regime as if he tries to check if anybody will notice.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Topwar.ru is funny like that because the comments sometimes have too sober of a Russian doing some reality check against their own bombastic propaganda.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been shut down yet. It actually seems to have fairly level headed takes of western stuff often. Though maybe they are allowed by Monke to stay up because they balance it out with enough schizophrenic Russian shit like this

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been shut down yet.

          That's adorbs, here's hoping they will meet a window soon.

          > here's hoping they will meet a window soon.
          They are not important or public enough for that; and criticism of "those who are supposed to do X arent doing good enough job, they must do better!"-type, without questioning decisions/ideology/competency of higher authority(party in soviet times/putin now) is a-ok and has been for a long time.
          Tsar/party is good and genius and infallible, those who implement theirs vision are often not and it must be pointed out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's adorbs, here's hoping they will meet a window soon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I suspect they intentionally leave the comments open enough to let the dissenters hang themselves since the FSB did moronic shit like this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Frick It, It's My Last Day In This Job: Special Agent Edition

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >shit still has crease in it
            >mattress is clean like it was never used
            >some sort of rune symbol on a random piece of paper
            >Sims 3

            yep, hardcore nazis

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >sims 3
              those are sim cards anon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                frick you fascist

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't forget the seaweed green wig.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/op5pbKU.jpg

              I suspect they intentionally leave the comments open enough to let the dissenters hang themselves since the FSB did moronic shit like this.

              >Restruct
              Reminder that Tecak was tortured and murdered by Russian authorities. Why? Because his movement was opposed to pedophilia/LGBT, drugs, and non-Whites. Remember that when someone tries to tell you that Russia is a bastion of traditional values. Anyone who fights back against the degenerate mutt cesspit that Russia has become is crushed by the system.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they killed Tesak because he could not be controlled and had his own following. that makes him a threat to the mafia. they wouldn't give a fricking frick if he was opposed to LGBT, heck they probably frick trannies in their spare time, the top ones

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              would

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't see a Yarosh business card.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Remember comrade, no Rosebud

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ramzay bringing the heat!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some Russians like to throw cold water in the faces of vatBlack folk. It's a good sign not all of them were completely zombified.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ramzay on fire here

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but B-21 did not enter service
      >did PAK DA?
      Who needs pak da?
      Give Ramzay21 wings, he would make better stealth bomber.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >commie pfp

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats the old Soviet Navy ensign, could be just as likely he's a boomer seaman

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Going to paris status?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you call attention to getting mogged like this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus checked
      >The B-21 should become the quintessence of the entire US bomber aircraft industry. And to be like no other aircraft had been before. It’s commendable, why not, but this haste, which is flaunted in the USA, can lead to the fact that later you have to make excuses and hide your eyes. Sometimes you rush and you make the whole world laugh. How it happened with the F-22 back in the day. Or with B-1.
      Well, the author apparently believes that the F-22 and B-1 were a laughing stock. Those people don't interact with reality like a normal person.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sometimes you rush and you make the whole world laugh. How it happened with the F-22 back in the day. Or with B-1.
        Yes, don't rush proudction, leave in production forever like glorious SU-57 and T-14

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          military vehicles are like wines, they need to be finely aged in production for at least a decade or two

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >T-55s rolling out right now in the east
            A fine vintage, great year for armor.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The Uralvagon '72. An excellent choice, sir.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This style of writing, though stilted, makes excellent use of the comma surplus on the internet, as twitter and tiktok don’t punctuate, which has led to a glut of the finely curved character.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ass is in the ass, awaiting for a victory immediate, everyone will know everything.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Russians never had a Hemingway tighten their language up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like it, it feels like I'm reading, a haiku, which gives you time, to reflect, bottom text.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How many times have we been promised such a character? The wheels greased? Even such a debt as paid by the ancestors? Will the Ataman rise from his bed? How may such a character exist?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the amount of smekalka required to come up with this post makes you a honorary russian. make sure to not deglove yourself accidentally.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Punctuation Prince

          They call me comma king; they call me semicolon sultan; they call me asterisk master; they call me hyphen hype-train; they call me underscore lord; they call me question mark magnate; they call me apostrophe caliph; they call me forward slash sultan; they call me period praetor; they call me ellipsis emperor...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The interrobang imperator…

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They call him parenthesis pimp; they call him v-bracket racketeer; they call him ampersand approbator; they call him caret carouser; they call him square bracket sovereign

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The F-22 is a massively overpriced piece of shit that would be of questionable utility against any opponent with a functional Air Force due to how few are operational and the fact that they literally try to kill their own pilots with oxygen poisoning, but I would hardly call it a laughing stock.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The small fleet of F-22 would be more than enough to achieve complete air supremacy over russia's entire land mass. Face it: It is the best A2A fighter in the world, even though the last one was built in late 2011.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't its only air to air kill a weather balloon? It wouldn't shock me if it were the best but if you're only claim to fame is shooting down one of hundreds of spy balloons that have flow over the US AFTER having production retired it might go into accidental flop category.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if there is nobody willing to even attempt to engage the f22 then it should be pretty clear that it is a superior fighter to everything else

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              F-22 has downed drones in the past but that was before USAF decided drones (and balloons) would be counted as air kills.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone must cope somehow.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn’t dare to mock fate like that

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You really do need to take your meds, bud. The doc doesnt just prescribe them for the hell of it.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nothing impressive about the fact that the US is running laps around everyone else, building what almost certainly is the stealthiest aircraft in existence for a fraction of the cost of the B-2, designed from the ground up for network warfare?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the US is running laps around everyone else
      gets BTFO by a cheap drone

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you show us where the US is losing to cheap drones?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine. NATOS full force is in there and is getting BTFO with Superior Iranian (LOL) drones.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > NATOS full force is in there
            May I see it?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was blown up by drones. Nothing to see left.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Proofs?
                At least post a dead Boris Johnson or something

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you seen Boris Johnson in Avdiivka?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3th gen stealth bomber and nobody else even has 1st gen

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good, they need something to believe in.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vatniks failed at Tsardom then failed at USSR/Warsaw Pact then failed at invading their impoverished next-door neighbor. They aren't the brightest lot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    their propaganda isnt for people who live in the real world, but for people who already live inside the vatnik information bubble of great homosexualry for glorious motherland make great

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Vatniks are mocking
    Every single non third world state is laughing at them and their eternal frickups, and they are the ones that mocks...unfathomable level of copium.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Every single non third world state is laughing at them and their eternal frickups, and they are the ones that mocks...unfathomable level of copium.
      Reminds me of a thing a very wise person once said to me.
      >Why do humans laugh? So they don't cry over their meager existence.
      Vatnik cope is that taken to its logical conclusion.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We're in a hurry to get rid of the Iranian problem

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    implessive, let's see China's stealth bomber

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's too stealthy for you to even see, sorry gwailo

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >China has two 5th gen fighters, one 5th gen stealth bomber.
    >xianh20mockup.jpg
    lol

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    half of their country doesn't even have functioning toilets, what do they know about bombers? kek

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This poster is correct, if we're counting individual air frames.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it 6th gen? Also what's the main difference with the B21 which looked the same and was a stealth bomber as well?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Autonomous use, it can essentially be flown like a big drone.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know almost everything about it is classified. But it can't be only autonomous feature that makes the plane that good at a point where the pentagon wants so many of those right now (+ apparently the us air force has not planned to fly it without a crew).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wants so many of those right now
          They're long strike range stealth bombers with big internal weapons bays, why the frick wouldn't the US want them? You know the B-2 program was originally supposed to procure like 100 of them before the USSR disintegrated right?

          >A procurement of 132 aircraft was planned in the mid-1980s but was later reduced to 75.[33] By the early 1990s the Soviet Union dissolved, effectively eliminating the Spirit's primary Cold War mission. Under budgetary pressures and Congressional opposition, in his 1992 State of the Union address, President George H. W. Bush announced B-2 production would be limited to 20 aircraft.[34] In 1996, however, the Clinton administration, though originally committed to ending production of the bombers at 20 aircraft, authorized the conversion of a 21st bomber, a prototype test model, to Block 30 fully operational status at a cost of nearly $500 million (~$866 million in 2022).[35]

          The high numbers for the B-21 are because they're simpler, have a lot in common with the F-35 (the JSF program having put a lot of effort into developing sustainable and cheap stealth aircraft), and have a legitimate opponent to be aimed at (anyone with a S-400+ tier air defense system or J-15+ fighter aircraft).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >because they're simpler
            Yeah, the funny thing is that we don’t even know how much newer tech has improved B-21 in comparison to B-2, but even if we assume that B-21 is just a smaller, cheaper and easier to maintain B-2 that doesn’t need special hangars, it already makes it attractive as frick. The idea of turning a former conventional ”superweapon” (cringy term, but that’s basically what B-2 is with its special capabilities at special cost idea) into something that you can use at larger scale is nothing to sneeze at.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >we don’t even know how much newer tech has improved B-21 in comparison to B-2
              My phone has multiples more processing power than the best supercomputer of 1990 (and uses less than 1/1 millionth the power)
              My phone is thousands of times better than the entire B-2's systems. I could probably emulate a B-2's systems inside of my phone multiple times. I could probably emulate an FPGA emulating a B-2's main targeting system inside my phone.

              Jet engines are roughly 20% more powerful with 30% less fuel use for the same output, and if the hybrid cycle stuff actually works that improves another 20% and 30% yet again.
              Stealth shape design is basically an already solved problem due to B-2 research, so that one is essentially free, just airframe cost.
              Stealth materials design and cost are basically an already solved problem again, and the modern stuff is massively cheaper and massively more durable.
              Construction methods are leagues better, it's considerably easier to automate the production of various shapes, sizes, etc.
              Materials are multiple generations better. So weight, strength, and cost for necessary weight and strength are considerably better.

              Modern and esp. upcoming weapons are ridiculously better than what was fielded in the late 80s/early 90s.
              The B-2 with F-35 escort and F15-EX overwatch is already the most ridiculous fighting force the world has ever seen.
              Throw NGAD/auto-drones in the mix and no enemy could dream of going toe-to-toe in conventional war.

              And hopefully, close-range defence can advance with the use of decent distance energy weapons so
              >muh cheap drone spam
              Becomes nothing but a passing footnote.

              Yeah it feels pretty good to be the the West right now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anyone with a S-400+ tier air defense system
            Commence Turkish seething if we ever let Greece have some of these. It serves the watermelon seller of Ankara right for buying Russian equipment.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's also a stealth AWACS

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans have never cared what foreigners thought. Why are we giving them attention now? They still don't matter on the global stage.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ummmmm EXCUSE me, but isn't finishing a race an hour before everyone else does a little well ummm EMBARRASSING?
    >everyone knows the REAL race is between silver and bronze anyway ;*~~))
    There's your summary.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why did he run the race so quickly? Is he running away from something? Is he in trouble?
      >Winning world records is one thing, bit one day whatever he is running from will catch up with him
      >Our position? Oh we didn't run in the race, we are still training
      >Practice makes perfect you'll see

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like
        >our position? Here's a photo with my lap speed on the bottom
        >I'll have a video out in a year and I might do it in person in three.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    China has 2 4th gen fighters it's pretending are 5th gen, and one "stealth bomber" that has neither stealthed nor bombed anything....CHINAH NUMBA JUAN!

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1 billion usd bomber vs cardboard drone
    who wins?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bomber id think

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I read through some of the (machine translated) russian comments when B-21 was revealed. It was pretty much full of
    >This is useless, russian equipment is much better, because its russian

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the remaining F-35s are 4th generation aircraft
      holy frick

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >little did they know "4th generation" referred to the 4th dimension they'd get their shit pushed in from

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >f35s are 4th gen
        bruh

        Please understand, least heavy duty copium. The average is them talking about their plasma stealth and anti American stealth magic radars with their 1000km range missiles nullifying air power.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reminds me of that moronic video of the pidor ranting about how western equipment was trash because they didn't even have autoloaders, and all the moron vatniks ate it up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah frick that fako documentary on the T-14 was utter madness. Between them saying the Leclerc proves the west is jealous of their autoloaders, to the reporter claiming the noise in the cabin is from the fricking air conditioner while visibly sweating like he's in hell, to them making it as if the cabin gets hydraulically sealed to close the door (because that's a good idea!... not! Really, really not! WTF?!) To the pilot clawing at the useless screen to try and make it look as if it was a touch screen, which it clearly isn't given how it doesn't react at all, to them actually showing that all 3 members of the crew just have motherfliping PERISCOPES, ON THE HULL, POINTING FORWARD as backup... because that's gonna help the gunner for sure?! Just how. HOW THE FRICK DID ANYONE WHO LOOK AT THAT MESS THINK THE T-14 LOOKED GOOD IN IT?!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >f35s are 4th gen
      bruh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they think US combat readiness rates are the same as Puccian "combat-ready" rates
      as usual the things they accuse others of just reaffirm the truth about Russia.

      and out of curiosity I wanted to see if anything was added to the collection and lo-and-behold look what I see

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine what is had in hidden to toss SU-57.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        frick me they are a declining endangered species at this point
        what are there, 15 of these things in existence?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Supposedly they made a new batch. I think they just put new numbers on.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            >supposedly 5 at Akhtubinsk air base
            >Satellite only shows 4 now.
            >also only 4 at Lipetsk
            >none at Dzyomgi
            lmao that fifth one from Akhtubinsk has absolutely got to be the new one at Zhukovsky. They don't even have 10, let alone the 22 they claim.

            either way, they will literally never fly in a warzone

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But I want to see them get dunked on by a squadron of F-15EX

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i want to see it too
                but tragically the russian mod doesn't want anyone to see it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the russian mod doesn't want anyone to see it
                As if there weren’t enough reasons to justify TZD

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Supposedly they made a new batch. I think they just put new numbers on.

          >supposedly 5 at Akhtubinsk air base
          >Satellite only shows 4 now.
          >also only 4 at Lipetsk
          >none at Dzyomgi
          lmao that fifth one from Akhtubinsk has absolutely got to be the new one at Zhukovsky. They don't even have 10, let alone the 22 they claim.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >15
          They say 15. How many has anyone seen at the same time? That's how many they actually have. This is the country that flew its entire bomber fleet (of 3 or 4) over red square multiple times to make the west think they've got dozens.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not even bothering to remove vegetation
        I get that hangars have become lost technology, building things is hard, but surely they still have chainsaws and pesticide?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I get that hangars have become lost technology, building things is hard
          thanks for the giggle. even the concept of "keep rain off these prototypes" is just too much for the em

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is fricking magical.
      >"Combat-ready aircraft are maintained in good condition by cannibalizing other faulty F22s."
      >by cannibalizing other F-22s
      It really is all a country of cope and projection, isn't it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean if they said that about the B-52 it'd be true

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>This is useless, russian equipment is much better, because its russian
      Literally exactly the same thing burgers say any time anyone announces anything that isn't American.
      Not even better stuff (in those cases it's half insisting it doesn't really exist and half that but in allcaps), just anything. Every fricking time.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >t vatnik who thinks we're still in the 90s
    Many such cases

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sometimes you rush and you make the whole world laugh. How it happened with the F-22 back in the day. Or with B-1.
    >the remaining F-35s are 4th generation aircraft
    how do they function with so much copium in their bloodstream? would they literally have their hearts stop and fall dead from shock if they had to face reality?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how do they function with so much copium in their bloodstream? would they literally have their hearts stop and fall dead from shock if they had to face reality?
      Most of them are too poor to travel to Western countries.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >22th
    >of december
    Okay, you foreign prat. Get the frick out mah /k/.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    äää

    topwar used to be a place that was conveniently well-indexed by search engines and, as a side effect, somewhere you'd often end up while sourcing images for preliminary background research on some russian/soviet milshit. it was never a place where bloggers were known for getting facts right. it was always a matter of gross incompetence that some talky-talky opinion havers ever cited "topwar" when making claims. it's not even like citing someone's blog on a semi-gated contributor site like forbes as "forbes lol" - it's more like citing "medium dot com xD"

    that being said, it's much worse now than ever before. everyone smart has migrated to other platforms long ago, and there's like a fraction of percent of highly educated people who would ever want anything to do with content that can be construed (rightly or wrongly) as glorifying the Z Team. A good half of the times I have to interact with a topwar post, the most informative part is the commenter saying
    >why are writing about something you haven't researched properly? x wasn't y and it didn't happen in year z, [... nerdsniped into writing the good version of the article ...]

    and the other half of the time, the topwar post is relevant purely for tracing the provenance of some kremlebot bullshit.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >in a hurry
    people have been seeing this frickin thing and calling it Aliens for 20 years

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    agreed, i'm so super duper demoralized about the fact that our MID actually had a project completed ahead of time and underbudget for once. surely corners was cut just for the bragging rights, no? the fact that chinks and vatniks must be laughing at us makes my piss boil.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The crazy thing is that this is what American is what they're admitting to have and using, and it's so much better than our opponents. Who knows what else they're actively designing or using for special circumstances already. Military Industrial Complex has lots of toys and wants to test them out where they can!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine all the people who posted about mechs not being viable only to have a few weeks from now footage of them in action.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The crazy thing is that this is what American is what they're admitting to have and using, and it's so much better than our opponents. Who knows what else they're actively designing or using for special circumstances already. Military Industrial Complex has lots of toys and wants to test them out where they can!

        The 60's were a strange time, pity GE didn't continue their projects. Officially anyway

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Except China's are made in China by Chinese "people" so you can't compare them to American planes.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA

    WHERE IS THE H20?

    and J-20 has the RCS of a F-18E hahaahahah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and J-20 has the RCS of a F-18E
      >Source: It came to me in a dream

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lmao. You mean this POS?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >state TV station of a "communist" country known for ever-present surveillance has the acronym of a surveillance camera system
      Pottely.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >22th
    >of December
    >seething
    Egg status zuggie?

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i'm sure to win because my speed is inferior

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WTF is wrong with non-western people? Why they are always mad, and yelling loud around but can't get their shit done?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's just mostly russians and indians. even moronic sand Black folk have a healthy respect for western gear.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh no no no no. If some smarthead comes around: Russia faked their whole history. Heavily inspired doesn't mean to copy exactly. And they got a lot of help.
    >Schmeisser was one of 16 Germans for which a special department (no. 58) was created at factory number 74, later known as Izhmash.
    Same goes for people like Kurt Horn, etc.
    But if you have old weapon books from the 90s you will read that these people worked in the same departments as their big weapon guys. And they faked the date of the prototypes too.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Schmeisser did not invented the AK, even in Germany by the end of the war was more of an administrator not an inventor, the AK doesn't even use any common characteristics from his design. Maybe, maybe he had a hand in helping design their stamping technology which in the case of the AK was flawed and would not be fixed until years later anyways so he either likely didn't help with that or did a very very poor job. Shmeisser was notoriously difficult to work with in soviet hands, they as well as he say as much and he likely didn't get much work done at all in their captivity. Kalashnikov himself was very open about where he took design elements from, he blatantly states that he just lifted the gas and bolt system from the Garand and the safety from Browning. He as well as the Soviets were very open about the fact that the rifle was essentially designed by committee. Idiots just keep parroting this claim to discredit soviet technology and to make the Germans out to be that much superior.

      I'm not even a Russia boo, they're backwards and like to punch above their weight, but their small arms procurement system at the time was actually very good. Allowing many different design teams to have relative independence from eachother and refining their designs in iterative steps and trials.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love "Implessive" posting so much.
    It's so simple, and yet so effective, and the only way they can make it stop is by fighting and winning a world war, which is implossible.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mockup
    WHERE'S THE ACTUAL PLANE, CHANG?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WHERES THE FLIGHT TEST FOOTAGE butthole

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >topwar
    I sometimes visit it to see the wonderful world of vatnik delirium.
    They mostly jerk off each other with ruzzia stronk articles, but can be pretty down to earth in post nut clarity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > topwar
      > I sometimes visit it to see the wonderful world of vatnik delirium.
      May i recommend you 2ch/wm? Its like topwar, but obviously with imageboard flavor.
      Cant guarantee accurate machine translation because of heavy use of slang/local memes. But it will be hilarious.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2ch is great. The questionable machine translation just makes it better.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I take it there are a few about to strike Iran's factories? Or will we just use Predators or something? Or have we decided on a less violent reaction? That seems unlikely.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard a rumor PAK DA was cancelled in favor of hope to restart production of Tu-160, so it's a PAK NYET now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PAK NYET
      h e h

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ПAК HE ДAЛ

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, Northrop Grumman were actually in a hurry because it was a fixed cost contract and they ending up losing a bunch of money on it.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anons, let's just take a deep breath and face the facts:
    Russia and all the VatBlack folk are just scared shitless. That's all.
    They see one thing: The US has been leading the fighter game for several decades now. They fielded huge numbers of F-15s, F-22s, F/A-18 E and F-35s. Especially the F-22 and F-35 turned their own fighters into a laughing stock, since Russia cannot field the PAK-FA to save a life, even assuming that this plane is still far away from the capabilities of the F-22 and F-35.

    They MIGHT have found solace in the fact that the US didn't field the B2 in huge numbers. So they could always tell themselves that the majority of the US bomber fleet wasn't super stealth and full of high-end electronics.
    This was so important for vatBlack folk because, when it comes to bombers, they have absolutely nothing in comparison. Not even a handful of prototypes like the PAK-FA.
    Russia has just completely lost the contact to America's bomber development.
    This wasn't so bad because they could use the aforementioned excuse.

    But now this changes: The B-21 will be fielded in huge numbers, too. That means the US, who had already left Russia far behind in the fighter game, is about to leave them in the dust in the bomber game.

    You, me, every non-vatBlack person knows that the US has already been ahead of them with their combined fleets of B-1s, B-52s and B-2s. But the B-21 which will replace most of these bombers, cannot be ignored or excused by russians anymore.

    So they resort to the only thing that's left for them: They have a snowball's chance in hell of building a comparable bomber, so they start mocking the B-21.

    Again: This is nothing but a sign of the giant degree of fear in Russian eyes.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    OHHH HERRAR PREASE
    RESS CHINA BUILD MANY VERR STEALFY PRANE, MANY RADARS NO SEE PRANES RESS
    SIWWY ROUND EYES NEED TO OPUH DERE EYES EVEN WIDUH TO SEE CHINA PRANE SO STEALFYY

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been in development for nearly 10 years now. That's considered fast?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Consider that after six decades of Russian R&D, T-62 is just reaching maturity.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    People really just take china and russia’s propaganda at face value whilst being incredibly skeptical of all western claims. True free thinkers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what happens when you're getting dragged deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole of contrarianism.
      Just take a good look at /misc/. No mind-boogiewoogie is too hard for them. To them, at the end of the day, it's always
      >T..the we..west is bad because globohomosexual and da joooz
      They root for everyone who's not the west just because he's not the west.
      You cannot fight this mindset with logic and facts. You can just wait for a situation where they see with their own eyes how Russia's and China's shit get crushed by western stuff.

      Remember the tank situation in Ukraine: They just completely ignored the fact that soviet/russian designed and built tanks got shot up by the thousands. Even when a Leo2 lost a piece of its side skirt they went apeshit
      >HAA SEEE NATO SHIT IS EVEN SHITTIER
      Don't try to wrap your brain around their mindset you only get headaches and angry. They are just as stupid and have the same blinkered brains as the dumbest left-wing liberals.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, it seems to have worked out so far for America
      >Russia claims to have super weapon that can do x and y
      >America takes it seriously and creates a super duper weapon that can do x y z and the greek alphabet.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >usa has been stagnant since its peak on the 22th of december in 1964
    The US, and homosexual sapiens, peaked on July 21, 1969.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh frick, I think it was the 20th, not the 21st. At least I'm not a seething f*reigner.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've been listening to the capcom tape recordings on YouTube. They're really cool.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please dont take me for a vatnik troll, but does making this plane even make sense, apart from keeping jobs?

    I honestly see no reason to retire good old big boy B-52

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-21_Raider

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

    B-2:
    Maximum speed: 630 mph (1,010 km/h, 550 kn) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m) altitude / Mach 0.95 at sea level[168]
    Cruise speed: 560 mph (900 km/h, 487 kn) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m) altitude
    Range: 6,900 mi (11,000 km, 6,000 nmi)
    Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,200 m)
    Wing loading: 67.3 lb/sq ft (329 kg/m2)
    Thrust/weight: 0.205

    Armament
    2 internal bays for ordnance and payload with an official limit of 40,000 lb (18,000 kg); maximum estimated limit is 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)[72]

    B-21:

    range: 11 000 km (identical to B2)
    Other specs seem similar to B2 as well.

    Capacity: 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) weapon load (much less than B2, yea I know its smaller)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-52 is not being retired anytime soon, as it fills a different role: hell, it's planned to stay in service at least till 2050.
      Learn2google instead of asking stupid questions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not being retired anytime soon
        I know that.

        1. Replacing the B-52 with this is only a possibility, not certainty.
        2. Maintaining one large fleet of stealth bombers is far cheaper than the multiple small fleets, like the USAF does now.

        Ok but what's the purpose? B-52 will do fine with asymmetric/low intensity warfare,what role will the B-21 perform?

        To launch cruise missiles from even further distance? They already have very good range, wont things like Rapid Dragon be enough?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >what's the point of a stealth bomber when a non-stealth bomber exists???
          Learn2google

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. Replacing the B-52 with this is only a possibility, not certainty.
      2. Maintaining one large fleet of stealth bombers is far cheaper than the multiple small fleets, like the USAF does now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I honestly see no reason to retire good old big boy B-52
      So you're in line with the Air Force. They just contracted Rolls Royce to equip the entire B-52 fleet with brand new engines.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not being retired anytime soon
        I know that.
        [...]
        Ok but what's the purpose? B-52 will do fine with asymmetric/low intensity warfare,what role will the B-21 perform?

        To launch cruise missiles from even further distance? They already have very good range, wont things like Rapid Dragon be enough?

        https://i.imgur.com/PJopkbr.jpg

        Please dont take me for a vatnik troll, but does making this plane even make sense, apart from keeping jobs?

        I honestly see no reason to retire good old big boy B-52

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-21_Raider

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

        B-2:
        Maximum speed: 630 mph (1,010 km/h, 550 kn) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m) altitude / Mach 0.95 at sea level[168]
        Cruise speed: 560 mph (900 km/h, 487 kn) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m) altitude
        Range: 6,900 mi (11,000 km, 6,000 nmi)
        Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,200 m)
        Wing loading: 67.3 lb/sq ft (329 kg/m2)
        Thrust/weight: 0.205

        Armament
        2 internal bays for ordnance and payload with an official limit of 40,000 lb (18,000 kg); maximum estimated limit is 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)[72]

        B-21:

        range: 11 000 km (identical to B2)
        Other specs seem similar to B2 as well.

        Capacity: 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) weapon load (much less than B2, yea I know its smaller)

        When I was a kid (in communist Poland) people would sing:

        there goes b-52
        there goes b-52
        Vietnamese, motherfrickers
        are running away wherever they can

        godspeed you magnificent bastard

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >When I was a kid (in communist Poland) people would sing:
          >there goes b-52
          >there goes b-52
          >Vietnamese, motherfrickers
          >are running away wherever they can
          KEK! Fricking based, polandbro

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aside from the fact that the B-21 has multiple decades of advancements in stealth tech, sensors, countermeasures and avionics. Theyre far cheaper than the ancient B-2's and theyre gonna be making 100 airframes minimum. Also im pretty sure the B-21 is stated to have a longer range than the B-2 but i cant remember where i saw it.
      As everyone points out every B-21 thread the B-2 is a maintenance nightmare that requires special hangars or it literally falls out of the sky and explodes. There are also a tiny amount of them, and many are stuck on nuke duty so the amount of use they can actually provide during a war is pretty small.
      If you cant see the use for having a hundred smaller, stealthier and lower maintenance B-2's then you probably have something wrong with your head.
      And they arent retiring the B-52

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Theyre far cheaper
        Yea I remember b***hing about F-35 being expensive as frick, HURR OVERPRICED, than boom, we have 1000 airframes built and price fell on its balls.

        >B-2 is a maintenance nightmare
        Yeah I know. But I still wonder about practical aplication of B-21.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Long-range low observable strike platforms are needed to hit Hainan island and other Chinese holdings too close to the mainland missile umbrella for carrier-based strikes to comfortably reach. Rapid Dragon is extremely cool but China is cranking out long range interceptors because they recognize the threat.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yea I remember b***hing about F-35 being expensive as frick, HURR OVERPRICED, than boom, we have 1000 airframes built and price fell on its balls.
          I think I know why people were b***hing this, becuase I was one of those morons. The US made a mistake and released the "life time pricetag" of the F-35. Idiots, like myself, thought that was how much was spent on the F-35's development.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Plus, the B-21 is not and never has been a replacement for the B-52.
        It’s a replacement for the B-1

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >First and second waves of B-2's and B-21's supported by F-35's and F-22's go in to destroy radar facilities, AA installations, command and control centers, airbases etc. and maintain air superiority
      >When this has been done, stealth bomber's jobs has been done and the B-52 can bomb whatever it wants in peace for a fraction of the cost

      It's not so hard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From what little I heard is that the B-2 was decades ahead, it was a literal marvel of engineering of the time, like it was absolutely shocking that something of that complexity could be made back then. Because of that it was idiotically expensive. Like, some nations couldn't even afford one kind of expensive. Sure it might still be good (just to show how amazing the original design was) the potential replacement is not ment to be a stats improvement but a price improvement since the stats it has is more obtainable now adays.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This reeks of cope. Just admit the B2 was overrated vaporware and this is just an overpriced F35 that can only drop dumb bombs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >helmetard crying
          You love to see it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but does making this plane even make sense
      If it has sense it heavily classified and will stay so at least 100 years (because judging by b52 it will serve 70 years).
      It has sense if it uses modern advances in emery technology. Active cancelation stealth, directed energy weapons. With such systems it's offensive and defensive potential can be massively increased comparing to previous generation. Does it have them? We will know in the year 2124. Just wait a little.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >China has, let's see... two 5th gen fighters, one 5th gen stealth bomber.
    >one 5th gen stealth bomber

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why aren't you factoring in drones? These manned aircraft only represent a fraction of the capabilities on either side.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Most implessive
    Now let's see the production numbers

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The stealth coating is all you need, try to make it big enough for enough bombs to fit but small enough so you have better odds with radar

    The thing is once you see the shape of a stealth aircraft you know its all bullshit anyway and everyone an copy it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >planes were once built based off bird shapes
      >now they're doing it again
      Mmmm yeah

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >human ingenuity recognized the optimal shapes on first glance but did not have the means to recreate them. we've been improving from sticks and canvas to composites and titanium this whole time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >planes were once built based off bird shapes
          >now they're doing it again
          Mmmm yeah

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's like the plane designers did the whole pic related

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nature doesn’t optimize anything.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              people always forget it's really "survival of the good enough"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There is an optimal shape for any given medium and task/purpose.
              >for a flying object of given size and mass on Titan there will be an optimal shape wing shape that differs from the optimal wing shape of the same size and mass on Earth.
              >if you wanna bomb rebels in a methane atmosphere you'll need specialized wings 3D printed for you ornithopter drones

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, it does, if you pay enough attention and actually learn from it instead of copypasting.

              [...]
              [...]
              [...]
              [...]
              IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

              GETTING FROM THERE TO HERE

              BEEN A LONG TIME

              BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY NEAR

              [...]
              That depends on what exactly one means by "optimized"; evolution is generally damn good at engineering when there's an impetus for it.

              DING DING DING! EXACTLY! Nowadays planes aren't just copying bird shapes. They're using EVOLUTIONARY ALGORITHMS based on those shapes to know how the bird would look if we pushed it even further.
              Evolution admittedly doesn't get to the objective best of anything, because that's not its purpose. But it does get really damned close when the right selective pressure pops up, and thanks to maths, it is also the best template for what the objective best would look like.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >human ingenuity recognized the optimal shapes on first glance but did not have the means to recreate them. we've been improving from sticks and canvas to composites and titanium this whole time

        https://i.imgur.com/xd3NKWA.png

        It's like the plane designers did the whole pic related

        It's been a longways back again.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Taube (Dove) was manufacutred by several companies back then. So both "Etrich Taube" or "Rumpler Taube" would be perfectly correct.
          Anyways: In 1913 there was a german operetta which contained the song "Flieg, du kleine Rumpler Taube" (Fly, little Rumpler Dove).

          It was one of the great success songs of its time and, as you can imagine, still successful in the ready rooms of german WW1 air crews.

          https://archive.org/details/943127-puppchen-rumplertaube

          Here's a DeepL translation of the lyrics

          Lifts into the air, soars into the clouds
          A very modern dove soars,
          but the heart is buoyant and sings of love
          today as the little woman once did!
          Then comes the dove that you can love,
          the heart floats to distant destinations,
          are no longer all, will soon be two
          feel like you're in seventh heaven!

          Especially when it sounds so beautiful,
          especially when he sings:

          Fly, you little rumbler pigeon,
          fly to my cloud bower,
          fly to the canopy of stars,
          where Cupid keeps watch.
          Fly', you little rumbler dove,
          fly to my cloud bower,
          fly to the canopy of stars,
          where God Cupid keeps watch.

          One is quite happy when love keeps watch,
          the most modern honeymoon,
          and the little heart beats and the rumpler carries
          us to the starry circles,
          over hill and dale with your spouse,
          let us fly to paradise,
          and the angels let us in,
          we all sway in the round dance.

          The melody sounds so sweet
          to the symphony of love:

          //: Fly, you little rumbler dove... ://

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >human ingenuity recognized the optimal shapes on first glance but did not have the means to recreate them. we've been improving from sticks and canvas to composites and titanium this whole time

        [...]

        https://i.imgur.com/xd3NKWA.png

        It's like the plane designers did the whole pic related

        https://i.imgur.com/cdnRjBN.jpg

        [...]
        [...]
        It's been a longways back again.

        IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD

        GETTING FROM THERE TO HERE

        BEEN A LONG TIME

        BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY NEAR

        Nature doesn’t optimize anything.

        That depends on what exactly one means by "optimized"; evolution is generally damn good at engineering when there's an impetus for it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody, I repeat NOBODY, is going to replace or retire the B-52 before even the last born zoomers are in their 40s.
    Last year Rolls Royce got a frickhuge contract to eqip ALL B-52 with brand new F130 engines - 8 pieces per plane.
    That means the BUFF will stay in service till at least the 2045-2050 timeframe (RR wrote 2023 something about 30 years).
    We are talking about a 2.6 BILLION dollars contract. That's literally too much money against a much earlier retirement
    >Remember, Anon, when they gave the entire A-6 fleet brand new wings just to axe the Intruder two years later?
    Yes, but the B52 is a different thing.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Vatniks are mocking the US for developing the world's first sixth-gen bomber too quickly
    >Russia's latest strategic bomber (Tu-160) is 3rd or 4th generation
    >Even if 4th gen they only have 16 pieces at hand
    >Never had a 5th gen bomber program
    >Can't even dream about a 6th gen bomber program
    >The sad rest of the russoid strategic bomber force consists of Bears (Vodka generation) and Backfires.

    I can't stop laughing at russians and vatniks. They completely lost the technical connection to the west but have the audacity to make fun of western modern stuff. Stuff, that's so far ahead that there's no single russian born yet who can dream of piloting a comparable russian plane.
    >Year is 2102
    >Russia has finally built a mockup of her first 6th gen bomber.
    >American officer on the moon watches through his telescope, makes a screenshot and prepares a meme.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick russia - do the chinks even try do something in the bomber field?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You talking about own developments or trying to get their hands on western technical intel?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hands on western technical intel?
          That they always do, I wonder if they even try to develop a bomber.

          tbh I thought USA is the only one who might even need them, since they have to project POWAH all over the world.
          Russia and China are mainland powers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Using knockoffs 50's vodkaBlack person technology.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They try to look at whatever the Americans are doing and copy it.
        Not a bad strategy, honestly. They'll only be one tech generation behind, and probably save a lot of money on RnD.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How embarrassing.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't making fun of stuff like this one of the main reasons why the US spends so much time and cash on developing tech like this? Just on the off chance that our future enemies will have something similar or even better?
    Of course that's not the case anymore after the current disaster that is Russia, but before that I mean.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We don't view others as viable threats anymore. We are preparing for the inevitable now. Threats from beyond earth are coming.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hahaha stupid amerifats are in too good in making of planes
    Weird flex but okay then.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >B-52s will be used to bomb Martian dissidents after being retrofitted with LRH-1337 transorbital engines.
    >The tail gunners will be armed with M2s.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    US has roughly 600 operational stealth fighters (200 of which are VTOL aircraft that launch from carriers) and 21 active stealth bombers.

    China has 200 "stealth" fighters, which are land based.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lest we forget

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Original picture

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i mean not gonna lie they do have a point

    they are rushing the production with a single flight so far
    they cant outsource its production to europe and they know that china can produce 5 times faster so yeah they basicly rushed the prototype testing

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