What weapons might China give Russia? Could it turn the tide of the war? Is it possible that if Ukraine committed fewer war crimes that China would not be able to justify supporting the barbarian Russian invaders?
US says it has intelligence that China is considering backing Russia in Ukrainew with weapons
If they are, it is a mis-direction.
China started publishing new maps yesterday with Russian towns bordering them with the old Chinese names, including re-naming Vladivostok as something that means "Cucumber Bay" or whatever.
They apparently also have been referencing territories ceded to Russia hundreds of years ago in the same language and tone as the islands in the South China sea, and Taiwan.
They're going to seize the eastern half of Russia when RF is too weak to do anything about it.
Link?
http://www.gov.cn/zhengce/zhengceku/2023-02/17/content_5741977.htm
You're going to have to use google translate or something because this is the official govt. release, or you can read about it in english here: https://asiatimes.com/2023/02/chinas-ironic-reticence-on-land-grab-in-ukraine/
Horses mouth here, boyo. Read em and weep more.
Remember, in 2020 China also referenced Vladivostok as a Chinese city.
They're gonna fucking take it, it's only a matter of time.
This is a simple misunderstanding and idiotic projector of the true friendship between Russia and China. Do not be fooled by the lies. Please.
Can we please make provinceposting a thing?
Like
>Herro yes I am Ivan Suckoffsky from gnomish autonomous province of russia , I support great china's efforts in east Asia wholeheartedly
get gone and stay gone
LMAO you really can't trust the Chinese at all, can you?
Assuming Russia doesn't cede land amicably, that's three nuclear states (i.e. China, Russia & the Norks as assumed proxy actors on at least one's side). Logically we're back in a situation where Russia HAS to nook over continued losses in Ukraine, otherwise China can be reasonably confident they won't over Vladivostok / Sea Cucumber Land.
Fun times boys. Poor Nippon.
>Poor Nippon.
If I were the Nips I'd stage a falseflag between Chinks and Russia.
Nips will sit back and supply materials to the west for massive profit like they did during the Korean and Vietnam wars.
Despite Putin claiming chunks of Ukraine are Russian he knows that's a load of shit. Losing in Ukraine means a failed land grab and little more.
However China taking territory that is globally recognized as Russia is a very different story and I could see Russia using a tactical nuke to try and scare them off.
>China taking territory that is globally recognized as Russia
>globally recognized as Russia
No one really disputed the 1991 boarders, not even Russia.
best time to raise dispute is when theres nothing Russia can do about it
I know this is counter to 30 years of propaganda but the reality is Russia is stronger now than they were in 1991.
I actually doubt that, if we ignore the fact that their military budget in 1991 was 0
Why they had more gear because PrepHole hadn't brough it all yet they couldn't win agaisnt Chechenia of all places.
the stockpiles were much fresher back in 1991 and the soviet training was probably much better than the one modern russian military is giving
So is China though.
Like, by leaps and bounds.
I don't necessarily disagree that they might deploy a nuke as a last resort but it'd be as a salted earth tactic, and I'm not sure it'd even matter, I think China might just push in anyway.
That sounds like something that western propaganda would push to divide the noble peoples of Russia and China. In any case, how can Ukraine stop its soldiers from committing more war crimes, and in doing so reduce the chance of angering the Dragon Empire? President Xi has noted that most Ukrainian soldiers have not committed war crimes, but the concern is valid given that Ukraine has refused to confront the incidents of concern. What say?
You are right, I are now feel completely safe from unproven Chinese aggression.
Nihao from Ivan Ivanovic of Cucumber Shěng
>shitskins and mongoloids
>noble people
Fuck off you subhuman trash
I hope Japan, China and Mongolia invade the Russian East again.
Why only the east? I wouldn't mind bordering Japan.
KEK
Chinese hardliners have been seething about Russia for decades, they currently share some geopolitical objectives but the USSR and CCP were outright hostile to each other (because the CCP wanted the USSR to more Stalinist and wanted nuclear war with the West by the way) and Russia was among the countries to force the Unequal Treaties on China right next to the UK and Japan.
I can understand that to an extent, because a lot of the agreements forced on the country continued right on up until the 50s so it's theoretically possible that some of the people in charge might even remember that period of time if they've managed to make it to their 80s.
It's just a bit bizarre to me that they make claims on Vladivostok as if it was stolen from them just yesterday.
It's generally been considered a Russian city for 160 years.
Anon, every single modern nation larps as all "previous versions of itself" aka the former states it identifies with and views the maximal extent of any territorial claims by ANY of those former states as their "historical and natural territory". It is fucking psychotic retardation. It does not matter there was no continuance of government or how different the ideologies may be or how in many cases the current government overthrew and killed the old one.
The Russian Federation is NOT the USSR and it is NOT Imperial Russia but it still views all territory claimed by those states as belonging to it, so we get the Ukraine war. China is currently engaged in border disputes with 17 fucking countries because even though the CCP overthrew the nationalists and the old imperials it still views their territorial claims as its own, no matter how many hundreds of years ago they may have existed. Look at the autism over Cyprus, look at the autism over Sakhalin, or how long Germany and France fought over Alsace and Lorraine. Russia and China are just kind of funnier because of how much they chest thump over being anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism while doing the same shit as everyone else.
>how long Germany and France fought over Alsace and Lorraine
They actually didn't fight over it all that long. Like, yeah, it was involved in assorted Holy Roman Empire border changes, but that wasn't based off a desire for territorial revanchism or anything, the HRE always had fluctuating borders. The A-L fighting basically began with the Franco-Prussian war (1870s) and ended with the Third Realm (1930s) since Hitler declared that Germany didn't have any claims on it and recognized it as French territory, same as he renounced German claims on Danish Schleswig. So there was really just 60 years of territory autism there.
"Muh historical lands" is the dumbest claim ever.
Before Russian empire, Ottoman empire was the dominant power in Eastern Europe, and before this it was Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.
How do we chose the rightful heir ?
I hope this happens, it would be fucking hilarious.
100 year plan... 1000 year memory....
>Japanese print, 1900
Wait, if it's a Japanese drawing, how the fuck did they manage to draw the IJN flag backwards?
>we give you weapons
>you give us Outer Manchuria
makes sense to me.
China still seethes about having ceded these lands to Russia but for now, China is choosing to ignore the issue. For eg, in a recent historical Chinese TV drama, border conflicts with Russia was conHispanicuously downplayed while the retaking of Taiwan (in late 1600s) was given prominence. This signals the current Chinese govt priorities.
> Muh foreign policy analysis in tv dramas
The output of Chinese tv dramas are subject to strict censorship by the government and tv dramas have consistently been used by the government to push messages to the Chinese.
I think China will relook at this when Russia inevitably becomes a client state of China.
Yup, that goes in my NAFO cringe compilation.
I wish they did. The west won't arm Russia because of it and Russia can only threaten with nukes.
I wonder if the US would invade the northeast tip at the same time just to make sure the Chinese didn't have a base directly adjacent to Alaska
>OP: Posts somewhat obvious troll thread looking to harvest butthurt tears
>Anon with first post: somewhat silly comment that sounds like obvious nonsense propaganda
Yeah whatever fageet.
>Anon comes through with CHINESE GOVERNMENT SOURCE FOR WEIRD EVENT THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT
Picrelated, my fucking face!
>US says it has intelligence
Anon you need to stop letting tyrannies live in your head rent free.
You need to stop molesting little girls in bathrooms and giving hrt to kids.
Obsessed
rent free
Is there ever a moment in your life, when you don't think about trannies?
>trannies trannies trannies
I'm no vatnik but this sounds like misinformation to me. "U.S. says it has intelligence that China may..."
Could be. U.S. intelligence was right about the invasion happening. But China has tried to present itself as neutral, whether that's true or not, this story muddles China's narrative.
Nobody should trust china.
True. But don't trust what you read about China either.
>China is considering
>China is negotiating
>China is planning
Get back to me when China is doing something.
Similar strategy as with Russia before the invasion. Release intel in hopes that it works as deterrence.
>"We're confident that the Chinese leadership is considering the provision of lethal equipment," Burns told "Face the Nation" moderator Margaret Brennan on Friday.
>Burns emphasized that China has not yet made the decision to transfer lethal aid to Russia, and shed light on the logic behind the Biden administration's decision to make this intelligence public.
>"We also don't see that a final decision has been made yet, and we don't see evidence of actual shipments of lethal equipment," Burns said. "And that's why, I think, Secretary Blinken and the president have thought it important to make very clear what the consequences of that would be as well."
>Brennan asked if the administration's goal — by sharing the CIA's intelligence — is to deter China from making the decision to transfer lethal aid. Burns confirmed that this is the plan, adding that for Xi to provide it, "would be a very risky and unwise bet."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cia-director-bill-burns-china-russia-lethal-aid/
>US says
disregarded, but not out of spite. they'll say anything to undermine public perception of their perceived enemies. if it actually happens, i'll eat my words
Is this an elaborate troll post about US warnings that Russia was going to invade the Ukraine?
Just have biden say if china gives russia anything at all, NATO gives ukraine absolutely everything.
Glowmoron claims about China claiming siberia
"""LEAKS"""" about covid being leaked from a lab
Looks like the propaganda mill is working overtime in panic mode because China has accurately identified the Ukraine conflict as a western operation to break up Russia and surround themselves
AaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA GLOWmoronS IN MY WAAAAAAALLLLLSSSS
No Comrade, an upswelling of democratic resolve from quick witted westerners, who identify China's ulterior motives at every turn, before it can manifest in any situation benefitting Russia. These leaks show that God is still blessing America.
I mean I’m sure you’re being ironic but China hasn’t been exactly subtle in the recent past, or the last decade for that matter
China has made it clear that they endeavor to supplant the Rules Based International Order, gilded in the iron clad legitimacy bestowed upon it by British and American stewardship after the holocaust and WWII, and replace it with a system wherein smaller nations are bullied by loans and central bankers, as opposed to compassionately onboarded to a new normal of international freedom of navigation. As the United States, it is our role to prevent the unjust starting of conflicts or invasion of smaller nations. This sacred peaceful path has manifested in a stable globe for many centuries. Russia must now realise that China's goal is their balkanization and exploitation, as opposed to the west's goal of peaceful political resolutions.
Well I mean I guess I actually agree with that?
China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism
You people are just…it was in the news last week, the US complaining that China was still selling military and dual-use products to Russia. Source was China’s own free trade data publications. Because China’s state enterprises are run by oligarchs who care about money, period, and will gladly just ignore government restrictions. Why do you people keep pretending to be socked by China’s hyper corruption?
why would they start backing losers? its like if china invaded mongolia and got completely embarassed
Keeping the war going for as long as possible helps China as it weakens Russia and the West.
>and the west
Lmao yeah the west is absolutely loosing here having one of its major adversaries kill itself while both of its geopolitical enemies step directly on their ducks and give them every opportunity to duck them over.
It's losing by paying double what the chinks pay for energy
Ah still sticking with the “Europe will freeze” cope?
Are you pretending that Europe doesn't pay multiples of what China pays for energy?
Yes please. It would be absolutely hilariously humiliating if Russia became a pawn in a proxy war between USA and China.
>Russia became a pawn in a proxy war between USA and China.
we fallout now
>China is considering backing Russia
just murder Putin already for fucks sake stop messing around
Remember what you're fighting for!
post your son's draft papers
Vlad Putitinhisass is a gay, and I hope he gets raped to death by the entirety of the Russian people. Actually, I hope the slavic retards in Ukraine and Russia both wipe each other out because that is Germans lebensraum anyway. Slavs are subhuman; Germans are literally the master race.
>literally the master race
Will it take a third world war to teach you that you aren't? While you were trying to become a country the rest of Europe conquered the world. You are the self-important asshole of Europe. All the best parts of the Germanic and Nordic peoples had the good sense to move to England.
Good thing I'm American, and my German ancestors came to America in the 1800s.
>Will it take a third world war to teach you that you aren't? While you were trying to become a country the rest of Europe conquered the world.
And the Russians conquered 1/3 of Asia, subdued the Steppe Nomads and secured the Pontic Steppes and Caucasians mountains against Islamic raids.
Or Russia. Thats the funniest part. The entire German/Russian fight is just Prussian loltism.
damn only a year later putin basically ditched the kursk crew lmao
thats based, though. seethe at difference and die a dogs death, normie
dilate
Funny how the gay who edited that picture, didn't even bother making him look younger, as if he was in his 40s in 1999.
what can russia offer them in exchange? oil? females?
>what can russia offer them in exchange? oil? females?
oil, grain, females.. and the boys
Tragic that Han men may be so desperate as to commit bestiality
>still no sign of weapons
how long is this going to take? i want to see how effective the chineseium is.
>How much time does the Trans-Sib trip take? Travel time between Moscow and Vladivostok is up to 7 days and up to 6 days between Moscow and Beijing without stopping along the way.
Chinese here.
You must be real desperate to come to us Moscow.
Putin really is like a drowning person
Disregarding the outcome on the battlefield, that looks like a loss of sovereignty for Russia.
>Far East
>half of Russia's land, 4% of GDP
>is a massive exposed rear
>provides no logistical or power projection into the Pacific because its so far from Russia its cheaper to just sail from the Western coast
>a persistent strategic weakness with no gain
Russia's biggest mistake was not turning the Far East into a buffer state.