37 longbow radars... I think it's a bit much, no? Isn't the ratio 1/4 (1 longbow for 4 non-lingbow) in USA?
US goverment aproved the sale of 96 AH64E Apachee helicopters for Poland for 12b$
37 longbow radars... I think it's a bit much, no? Isn't the ratio 1/4 (1 longbow for 4 non-lingbow) in USA?
What a waste of money, Russia isn't even a threat.
Pay attention to how asshole-ish Poland acts in any given situation where their ego is threatened. They started WW2 and they'll start WW3.
moron
Retard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Or should we remind Russians that they conspired with actual Nazi's that they claim to hate so much to split up Poland?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Russia is the dumbest country in the fucking world for its available resources and size.
Remember when they destroyed the ZP dam and drowned their own army?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station
>The flooding surge killed 20,000 to over 100,000 civilians, as well as Red Army officers who were crossing over the river.[10] It was partially dynamited again by retreating German troops in 1943[11] although another source states the German attempt to do so was thwarted by the Soviets.[12] In the end, the dam suffered extensive damage, and the powerhouse hall was nearly destroyed. Both were rebuilt between 1944 and 1949.
Or maybe how their ecologists destroyed the Aral Sea and subsequently melted glaciers from mountains with chemical compounds and salt storms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
Yeah sure and the holocaust happened too.
Nice comeback gay. Go die in a trench for your motherland.
Russia derangement syndrome is almost as bad as Trump derangement syndrome sheesh. How much more butthurt are you going to get that I don't give a single shit about this "war" in the shithole known as Eastern Europe.
because you are brown and your identity prevents you from sympathizing with White people, also commit suciide
I simply do not care, it doesn't affect me at all and I'll be voting against any warmongering politician who sent my money over to that crazed garden gnome over there.
It might come as a shock to you, but some people actually have morals to care about things besides getting fat on cheeseburgers and having cheap gas. Go back to India with your John Lennon meditative concepts of peace and love.
Don't bother, he's a frequent 4chan poster that spams a certain general, his wriritng style is just too obvious and his narratives always the same.
Imagine coming to PrepHole and complaining about warmongering, like how much of a tourist do you have to be.
Yes you, go back.
*for Putin and his mansions
holocaust was fabricated by the russians cause my nazis bad, they run with the story to this day
It's just unfounded russophobia. Russmorons dindu nuffin to Poland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
The bodies were props. Ever wonder why it was Nazi collaborators with Poland who discovered the mass graves? Hmmmmm
Nah. Ukropiggies massacred Polacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Gee, I wonder under whose orders. It's almost as if there was this notable leader in the glorious Soviet Union that had a policy of mixing up borders (i.e. Giving German lands to Poland and Polish lands to Ukraine & Lithuania) with the intent of countries squabbling with each other instead of looking at the one orchestrating it. Can't remember who would do such a thing.
tbh with wołyń it was more the fault of germans because they allowed it
the "kresy" area was just an area of conflict between poles and lithuanians, belarussians and ukrainians
>poles kill ukrainians (subhumans)
>ukrainians kill poles (subhumans)
>profit
that was nothing like you describe. OUN UPA was a terrorist org that pressed Ukrainians into service under the threat of execution, the operation was already brainstormed before the war and there was no symmetry from the other side. It was not something organic.
dont worry if we kill all russians we will remove the main cause of wars in eastern europe
Yes. Nice to see we’re in agreement
Those are the tip of the iceberg. Soviet history is a deep goldmine of comedic fuckups. No surprise their citizens never learn of these things. tbh there's so much of it that there are people in the West who never even hear all of it.
My overall favorite though is the mentality that Russia totally didn't become a superpower post WWII because of the US Marshall plan. I'm sure it was all of their own accord.
the be fair western intel probably had a better idea of the fuck ups and their extent than the soviet citizenry
like the time the soviets had an opsie at a shift change at a factory that makes antrax and didn't bother telling the civies living downwind
IIRC the anthrax and smallpox incidents were due to the virus research lab on an island in the Aral Sea drying up.
At least they learn about Chernobyl
You don't have to keep it in the Soviet times though. Look up the Beslan school siege. It's literally the deadliest school shooting in history. I remember when it was being censored on TV and how Putin looked like a cowardly pussy ass bitch in response to it. 333 people dead, what a success for modern day Russian.
Skin every curry- and vodkamoron alive. It's all I am asking for ffs.
>t. moderate
How to tell you're Vatnik without saying it.
>Shady's back
>Tell a friend
carps will swim in putins private pools
We'll see Intermarium/2nd Commonwealth as a federation of eastern european nation within our lifetime
Jerzy Sandek from Krakow Oblast here, and I agree. We should not pick a fight with our russian comrades, and instead defeat the ukronazis together.
>t. Donald Tusk
That is why it's time to start gearing up for NATO's secret objective.
Fucking over china?
That's the official secret objective. NATO's real goal is to conquer Africa.
STOP ORDERING MORE WEAPONS YOU FAT FUCK
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DEPLOYED THE LAST ONES YOU ORDERED
What a waste of money, attack helicopters are obsolete in modern warfare, they could've used those 12 bil for more f-35s with standoff guided munitions or they could've pimped their artillery force, hell they could've gotten 2x the amount of armed MALE drones for that price 4x if they bought Turkish.
Another example of doctrine being stuck 30 years in the past.
But there is nothing to worry about.
After all the colonial wars in the middle east have shown how easy war is and sithole slap fights between Iran-Irak in the 80s and Ukraine-Russia recently are not signs of the wars to come just like the Russo-Jap war before 1914.
>What a waste of money, attack helicopters are obsolete in modern warfare
Is that why Task Force Normandy basically kicked-off Desert Storm and enabled the air war over Iraq to go into overdrive mode?
>t. "I read a manpads cope article once and saw one video of an AH being shot at (it wasnt destroyed)"
>What a waste of money, attack helicopters are obsolete in modern warfare,
The Ka-52s are proving useful despite having crap avionics and sensors.
Just imagine the absolute total zigger death if Longbow Apaches are to be let loose on Varnik columns.
What does Poland need all these weapons for?
A smoothie
jej
Only one reason…
War, remember, poland fought in Iraq and Afganistan, you wouldn't question why the UK or Australia needs weapons
>508 Stingers
Why is Poland going to use Apaches to hunt Alligators and Hinds?
I don't think the AH-64E can mount the stinger missiles on the wingtips anymore maybe have to mount the stingers using one of the weapon racks.
> The AH-64E initially lacked the ability to use the Stinger to make room for self-defense equipment, but the capability was added back following a South Korean demand
Back on the wingtips with the missile counter measured moved/removed or under the wings using up one of the weapon racks?
Good to know, seems the export AH-64E maintains the ability the ability to fire stingers, but it wasn't a requirement for the US model. I assume the export model doesn't have the same DIRCM on the wingtips.
I hereby nominate the emcumbent Poland for the title of most based nation, 2023.
>Muh US aid to Ukriane making Americns poor
>Meanwhile MIC is making absolute fucking bank selling US weapons
How do contrarians that act like conservatives even cope
the secret is that nobody ACTUALLY cares about foreign military aid because the amount of money being lost to domestic corruption is FAR higher, but each side likes to pretend to ignore that in support of their team
You're a fucking imbecile if you think America isn't profiting from this massively. They are the biggest winner in all of this. You clearly don't understand history. The Marshall Plan isn't a new concept, and it was and is one of the dominating factors in US rise to the level of a global superpower. Post WWII they made bank, made allies, and are doing the same thing again. Before this war Europe was getting cozy and sentiments towards America were shifting over the last few years to "We don't need America". That changed massively with the war.
But all you care about are hamburgers you fat fuck. If you want money to go towards things like improving American infrastructure, that doesn't come out of a military budget. It's a budget that already exists that your politicians drip feed you out of a bag. Put the blame where it deserves to be instead of sitting on your fat ass like a slob talking about geopolitics and history that you know fuckall about
Ah yes, what the Kremlin wants you to believe. That America is getting exhausted from this war and it will capitulate, when that couldn't be further from the truth.
Because the US aid going to Ukraine is foreign aid money that was earmarked for this kind of shit anyway, and the weapons we are sending to Ukraine are getting paid for at sticker price to replace them with brand new shit.
So even though we are sending old hardware, Ukraine is paying us (using money we sent them) full value for old equipment.
Ostensibly it's a great deal, less than 1/10th of the yearly military budget has been sent to Ukraine, but again a large chunk of that money comes right back to the US buying new replacement shit for the old stuff we sent to Ukraine.
If you don't understand how this helps our economy, gives more people jobs, AND updates our military hardware all at the same time while looking Russians at the cost of no American lives, you're probably just a moron.
>looking
Killing
>US selling old shit sitting in warehouses that would need to be replaced anyway to Ukraine for long term profit
>I WANT AMERICA TO PROFIT, NOT FILL THE POCKETS OF CORRUPT ZELENSKY
Some people are just retarded anon.
No proof retard. Keep crying about something you can't back up with facts. Your hunches mean nothing.
huh, they didn't have any attack helicopters in inventory.
This is old news maybe the breakdown details are new. Poland currently flying 8 Apaches leased from the army for training.
All paid with german, french, dutch and scandi money. Ungrateful bastards.
I mean they'd probably like to have spent it on trains or some shit but they're busy being a wall for you fags
REKT
Poland has nice Pendolino trains, too.
Poland is kinda suHispanicious. maybe they're preppers at a state level. or maybe they're planning something...
>maybe they're preppers at a state level. or maybe they're planning something
Poland thinks that any and all of their allies could at any moment do a 1939 and just sit by as russia attacks them. Which frankly isn't even all that impossible - western europe is soft and old, america is one bad election from a civil war. They also think germany secretly hates them and would at least hinder efforts of others to help, if not join in themselves. Hence they want the capacity to 1v1 russia. Which considering recent events appears very doable, so why not.
The problem is German elites is ready to do anything for that big, fat gas pipe. They were quite clearly hoping Moscow would get away with it in 2022. Austria is even worse, with 5 ex-chancellors working for large Russian hydrocarbon companies. Before special op they also didn't bother producing shit.
>German elites is ready to do anything
Exactly wrong. Germans are ready to do nothing, and when left without a choice do that which approximates doing nothing most closely.
>Stopping immigrants: Doing something
>Stopping nordstream: Doing something
>Aiding ukraine pre-2022: Doing something
>Not aiding ukraine post-2022, offending the rest of NATO and especially eastern europe: Doing something
Poles are wise to not expect our aid and paranoid to expect our enmity.
With 96 Apaches Poland will be the 2nd largest Apache operator but still a long way after the US Army which has around 800.
Still more rocket artillery than the US thoughever, which is p. funny
No they don't.
They are buying 18 HIMARS launchers and a few thousand missiles to go with.
They are also buying 288 Chunmoo launchers from South Korea, with ~28,000 missiles to go with.
That is a confirmed total of 306 launchers and ~30,000 missiles.
In 2021 the US army had 363 HIMARS launchers and the Marines had 47 launchers.
Lockheed has also increased production from the pre-war 48 units per year to 96 going forward, and the US army appears to be buying ~20+/year for the foreseeable future.
This isn't even to mention the m270 MLRS which the US army is upgrading 225 of those to a new standard as of 2019 for PrSM. They're also upgrading an additional 160 that were previously deactivated.
tldr; no poland does not have more rocket artillery than the US.
The US still has multiple times over the rocket artillery available to Poland.
Wasn't the original plan something ridiculous like 500 HIMARS launchers?
They wanted 500 but the US was only producing 48/year at that point so it would've taken AGES for the orders to go through, even when Lockheed announced they were increasing to 96/year it still would've taken a fair bit of time to deliver all 500 + whatever the US was ordering.
Since SK was already trying to woo Poland on SPGs, Tanks, and fighter jets, adding on some rocket artillery wasn't a stretch.
Why the hell is US dwarfed by Worst Korea in production capacity???
Because lockheed is busy building F35s and other cool shit
If the US WANTED to they could increase the production capacity of a ton of things like tanks, HIMARS, etc, but the costs would absurd outside of an existential threat to the current world order (ie war with china).
No. Poland bought 18 Himars - true. But also 486 ~~*Himars launcher module kits*~~ to mount on a domestic Jelcz truck. Aside chunmoo and himars, poland plans to produce couple hundred WR-40 Langusta - a bm-21 grad, but polish.
ode mnie
ja za to zapłaciłem
Himars but polish
BM-21 Grad but polish
I like the big, spacious cabins. I hope those will proliferate, so comfy-looking.
What a waste of money. We will never find 96 Apaches to fly them.