>Until now, the EU's support to Ukraine since the start of the war has always lagged behind that of the United States. This has changed in recent weeks, as the total value of EU commitments now exceeds those of the U.S.
Bow down to the superior force.
EU dabs on Ruasia*
Also, as Russia is a direct threat to EU and not the US, our support should be double that of USA's.
Also also, post source, homosexual
>Post source
It's in the imagine you inbred mutt, the EU is now the strongest force in the world.
>EU vs America b***h fighting
Go to PrepHole you homosexuals
>Guy ask to post source
>"Inbred mutt"
Yeah but a source would be cool. Throwing insults makes you look like a complete b***h.
>Asks for source when it's clearly visible
>Gets mad his eyes don't work
Sad.
But civilian aid is military aid
according Kiel and the USA has 47.819 billion euros in aid. after adding up all euro countries (including turkey) Europe is about 26.066 billion euros in aid.so idk where you think europe is sending more aid than the USA.
And if we add the rest of the world that Kiel says have sent support (leafs, aussies, asians), we get about 30.959 billion euros
It's weird that japs have given more to Ukraine (0.606 billion euros) compared to like half of Europe after reading that map chart over and over.
Aren't they sort of fricking with Russia about an island too?
Yeah the Kuril Islands, which Japan has never given up the claim to since 1945.
>The EU has significantly expanded its support commitments. EU countries and institutions total nearly 52 billion euros in military, financial and humanitarian assistance until November 20. The commitments made by the U.S. add up to just under 48 billion euros. The main reason for the changes is an 18-billion-euro Macro-Financial Assistance (MFA) package agreed by the EU for 2023.
>EU 52bn
>US 48bn
You told me to look at the source at https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ so i did, and that's what the website gave me didn't say anything about a MFA. and i won't be surprised if the USA does even more aid. Like bro what are you trying to argue? that a whole continent can barely keep up with one nation?
Scroll further down to the heavy weapons part
again wow, a whole continent can barely keep up with the USA by itself, time to pat yourself on the back.
The US is practically an entire continent if you havnt noticed so its not stupid to compare them.
Canada is much bigger than the US and arguably has more resources, so if we're going by the size argument, shouldn't the leaves be doing more than the brits?
Size area and population are important factors to consider but so is money spent on their military. Canada spends much less of its GDP on their military and much of its land mass is heavily forested and sparsely populated. It has about 1/10th the population of the US. There is more to comparing than landmass and resources. Its why comparing the EU to the US actually works and comparing the EU to Canada doesnt.
Its still a reasonable comparison to make even with that argument. The only real contender that is even close to the US in terms of GDP population and actual real world military prowess is the EU. China is gaining ground but who knows how much of that is a bunch of blowhard bullshit that doesnt stand up. We dont know.
It is stupid to compare them because half of Europe was under a communist dictatorship until 3 decades ago meaning the western part has to make up for that. It really shouldn't be anywhere close due to the comparable population sizes.
My Black person in Christ (pbuh) you are bad at reading.
>do basic addition
>come with an answer
>"uhm actually that's not right because of something we didn't tell you in our source"
Why do you argue like a Black person?
>so I did the math
Kek
>EU is now the strongest force in the world.
see you when Americans save you for the third time
Inbred is literally the opposite of a mutt
>inbred mutt
Kind of an oxymoron innit?
EU is a strong force to be sure and probably easily second place if they can coordinate properly but they lack the versatility and sheer ability to project power like the US. Much of the EU forces are localized defense forces and dont have the capability to do something such as perform military action on the other side of the planet for any extended period of time effectively. Its not a bad thing considering they are only dealing with defense of a relatively small portion of the planet. The US has to secure the largest amount of coastal areas out of anyone and the second largest raw amount of landmass only losing to Russia who actually have an easier time of it since much of theirs is tundra only accessible via the arctic. To secure so much requires immense logistical capability.
A lot of people jerk off over the fancy toys and tech of the US military and many of them are incredible but the real star of the show is their logistical capability which is absurd.
>inbred mutt
You are "German". Shut up.
Aren't Germans the only ones manly dependent on Russian oil? And that they buy a lot of French energy to survive? Seems ironic that German seems to be sucking French boot again.
Germany has ditched any and all imports of russian fuel in the last 6 months or so. The EU is on its way or already at eliminating imports from Russia. It might not be fully weaned yet but the plans are in place and being executed.
>Germany has ditched any and all imports of russian fuel
false
you're dumb.
Even if Germany wouldn't have (and from what I know they did), Russia stopped exporting fuel to countries that agreed to the price-cap.
That was one of their big plans to try and get the rest of the world to capitulate and look the other way. They tried to starve the people they export to of oil by reducing exports and such only for them to give Putin the finger and eliminate them ENTIRELY. The whole fricking invasion is a clusterfrick and all its going to do is ruin Russias reputation and eventually tank its economy.
The closest that OP could be to a German is being a Serbian ir Russian migrant. OP is a homosexual shill, be warned
Hence quotation marks. He is brown
>smallprint
>commitments
>including civilian aid
yeah frick off nonone cares amerimutta can pay their own wars
america isnt really committing, because they want to prolong the war. if they really wanted to end the war theyd have given f15's and m1's but alas
>it takes like 30 countries together just to match the total commitment of the USA
>The USA isn't even fully committed to begin with
*yawn*
the USA is 50 countries together
moron
The cold winter didn't cause enough of an issue did it?
commitments = delivered
>Spain
>Italy
>France
Suddenly have donated more or the same as Poland?
Wtf is this shit something is off with the chart.
The British have also donated alot more than Germany what gives?
Germans are morons, simple as. I'm calling bull on the chart but I did what the guy said and added up all the countries compared to america and he goes "muh MFA" that isn't it calculated yet.
> I'm calling bull on the chart but I did what the guy said and added up all the countries
Let me explain it to you in mutt: state vs federal budget. There is money given by countries individually, and there is money given by the EU in its own right, not as a collection of states.
None of this matters because America and Americans are going to have to go fight in Europe again to bail it
out because all of the smartest Europeans fled for the new world, leaving it destitute to be pillaged and saved and ravaged and liberated and raped and freed over and over and over
It must be nice being this delusional. Being able to stare at a blank wall and drool all over yourself must be pretty calming.
Absaloutley pathetic grovelling cowardly continentals.
>None of this matters because America and Americans are going to have to go fight in Europe again to bail it
As is fitting, given that you and the Russians are co-responsible for this mess. You frick shit up and force us to clear the mess since it's in our neighborhood. Only Russia the Anglosphere wanted this war. Not the EU.
Only Russia and* the Anglosphere wanted this war. All we want is for you imperialist fricks to LEAVE US THE FRICK ALONE. Just for once.
every 100 or so years, they try to conquer russia, and fail, this is like something that has gone for a thousand more years.. its like they forgot their lessons
>he fell for twitter propaganda and bongladesh press
Lel
Are you mentally ill? The Kiel map says all those country's gave very little, but the chart in OP says they have given lots.
Have you tried reading what you're talking about to be able to explain the difference (whose nature is clearly illustrated) yourself, instead of being a literal monkey?
>He thinks Spain is a big contributor to Ukraine
1,370 Instalaza C-90 anti-tank grenade launchers, an unspecified number of light machine guns and 700,000 bullets on 2 March 2022.[447]
Unspecified shipment of arms and ammunition[448] containing an unspecified quantity of URO VAMTAC armoured vehicles[449]
One RG-31 Nyala mine-resistant vehicle configured as an ambulance[448]
Eight light military vehicles dispatched from the Spanish army to Ukraine on 7 October 2022. 12 more vehicles also pledged.[450]
On 10 November 2022, Spain announced that it would provide Ukraine with two HAWK air defence systems and a battery of six light howitzers.[451]
That is everything Spain donated to Ukraine. Look at me with a straight face and tell me that accounts to €6bn
>That is everything Spain donated to Ukraine. Look at me with a straight face and tell me that accounts to €6bn
Anon, I want you to look at the OP pic and read it.
Actually read it. Find out what the different colors mean and then report back to me.
A Bradley cost like 4.25 million per unit, and 50 of them is around 212500000$ USD
>shit tier infighting attempt
Black person, everyone is working together to frick up Russians its now a showboating competition.
100% the OP of this thread is just some shitskin or chink trying to divide and conquer. Only people who use the term "mutt' on /k/ are pajeets and the like
Wait, what is the Orange bars for? Is that some made up aid?
Because if you take that away it starts to look more believable.
Can somebody explain to me why anglos never learn to interpret graphs in school?
Who was the president who showed 2 meaningless graphs on tv and went
>our plan goes up, theirs goes down
And it actually worked?
I tried to find the video because it's funny. Thought it was JFK but apparently not.
Why are you seething about anglos? one minutes it's americans next it's anglos. Seems odd with you simping for the EU as a whole.
unless.....
That was my first post about it and this thread is filled with brits and Americans failing to read a simple graph.
I think that's funny.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, anon.
Do you agree the graph isn't an accurate representation of aid to Ukraine? And that this one
shows the situation much clearer
>Do you agree the graph isn't an accurate representation of aid to Ukraine?
Anon...
The only difference between the two graphs you're talking about is that EU contributions are bundled in yours.
But money and materiel funneled through the EU in special funds is still individually contributed by the countries on these lists.
Why would spanish aid not count as Spanish aid just because Spain sent it through the EU as a middleman?
Do you think money just magically appears?
We read your graphs and counter it with our points, and you act like a sterotypical smug eurogay and brush it off as "silly brits/americans can't read", we can read, how about you read our counter points and graphs first.
Okay but your "counterpoints" are literally based on you failing to read basic English.
And the other graph that one anon posted agrees with OP's image it just doesn't sort EU contributions by country.
I don't wanna be a dick but you Black folk need to fix your education system badly goddamn
>The aim is to provide short-term financial relief, financing Ukraine’s immediate needs, rehabilitation of critical infrastructure and initial support towards sustainable post-war reconstruction, with a view to supporting Ukraine on its path towards European integration.
Basically the EU have borrowed money to lend to Ukraine, then they split the share between EU nations so they could add the respective amount to the Aid Donation Chart.
It's nothing to do with military aid or even to use right now it's just for help rebuilding.
Tldr OPs pic is just the EU doing mental gymnastics to make its nations look like they performed better than they have. The blue bar is what matters.
Also how the frick would an "EU" army work? sounds like a repeat of the Austro Hungarian army from WW1
>mfw when my commander is speaking germen, machine gunners speaking French, logistic gays speaking Spanish and the arty guys are speaking Czech/Polish.
They will all speak english, english is a mandatory wnd language in europe, where we learn 3 languages in middle school and high school (native, english and some countries do a 3rd). The reasoning behind this is the fact that english is the language of global trade.
Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
Picrel is a more accurate graph for the current situation it factors out stupid loans for post war rebuilding that has nothing to do with right now
BUT WHERE IS SPAIN AND ITALY! OPS CHAT SAYS WE ARE GOOD!
>Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
>money doesn't count when it's the weing color because I don't want it to
Anon the picture you posted agrees with OP's pic, the orange that is sorted by countries there is simply summarized in one bar in yours.
That was a really low IQ post, goddamn
>Ignore the Orange look at the Blue
Have you never read a graph in your life? You do understand that you have to also look at the legend, right?
>EU gets its shit (mostly) together for once
Fricking finally, now watch as the whole thing reverts into a circus after Russia collapses.
t. Italian
>ITT: Eurogays try to divide NATO with money dick measuring contest
Anon, this is just sad.
You Black folk can't read. I really hope this is all a false flag.
So is getting laughed at a "false flag"? You've shat up this whole thread to prove something that doesn't exist. I thought the whole false flag accusations was people crying about NAFO or the like.
I don't think I am who you think I am and haven't made the posts you think I have.
With false flag I mean that it's morons trying to make brits and Americans look bad by pretending not to understand how to read simple graphs.
Why would Brits and Americans feel bad they've clearly given the most military support look at the chart its not even close to anyone else. The money from the EU is for postwar rebuilding and infrastructure.
Yes, but no.
America has given the most individually, the EU has given more combined, Britain is not second place as Germany has given more if you factor in its contributions through EU funds, collections and special donations. EU contributions also consist out of military materiel and not just money (though it is mostly money) and it's not just for rebuilding.
What gave you the false impression you have, fren?
>mean people earlier in the thread were saying it's a chink/pajeet thread,
OP definitely didn't post this in good faith. If he would have he could have easily found a better graph to illustrate his point on the same website by just scrolling a bit further down because knew statistic directly compares EU and Americdn contributions.
>OP definitely didn't post this in good faith.
I just find it funny we get this types of threads that supposed to bring division in NATO and the west, seems rather slimly if you asked me.
The only thing they are going to divide is a bunch of fricking schizos anyway who are best off ignored.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-says-it-will-stop-buying-russian-coal-aug-1-oil-dec-31-2022-07-13/
>False impression
Nothing I said is false fren it's right there on the chart. Notice the post you replied to said military aid which is the blue bar on
this chart.
Even with the EUs €18bn MFA spread between the EU nations that doesn't change the fact the UK has donated much more military hardware than Germany. Germany may be number 2 now but that's only through the EUs Post war funding package which has nothing to do with Military aid like I mentioned in my first post anon.
I mean people earlier in the thread were saying it's a chink/pajeet thread, and the only people i know on /k/ that throw around "mutt" liberally are the pajeets so yeah. To be honest i have no idea why pajeets would be pro russia when russia is becoming a CCP puppet state.