>Until now, the EU's support to Ukraine since the start of the war has always lagged behind that of the United States.

>Until now, the EU's support to Ukraine since the start of the war has always lagged behind that of the United States. This has changed in recent weeks, as the total value of EU commitments now exceeds those of the U.S.

Bow down to the superior force.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EU dabs on Ruasia*

    Also, as Russia is a direct threat to EU and not the US, our support should be double that of USA's.

    Also also, post source, gay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Post source
      It's in the imagine you inbred mutt, the EU is now the strongest force in the world.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EU vs America bitch fighting
        Go to /int/ you gays

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Guy ask to post source
        >"Inbred mutt"
        Yeah but a source would be cool. Throwing insults makes you look like a complete bitch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Asks for source when it's clearly visible
          >Gets mad his eyes don't work
          Sad.

          >smallprint
          >commitments
          >including civilian aid
          yeah fuck off nonone cares amerimutta can pay their own wars

          But civilian aid is military aid

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            according Kiel and the USA has 47.819 billion euros in aid. after adding up all euro countries (including turkey) Europe is about 26.066 billion euros in aid.so idk where you think europe is sending more aid than the USA.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And if we add the rest of the world that Kiel says have sent support (leafs, aussies, asians), we get about 30.959 billion euros

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's weird that japs have given more to Ukraine (0.606 billion euros) compared to like half of Europe after reading that map chart over and over.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't they sort of fucking with Russia about an island too?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the Kuril Islands, which Japan has never given up the claim to since 1945.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And if we add the rest of the world that Kiel says have sent support (leafs, aussies, asians), we get about 30.959 billion euros

              >The EU has significantly expanded its support commitments. EU countries and institutions total nearly 52 billion euros in military, financial and humanitarian assistance until November 20. The commitments made by the U.S. add up to just under 48 billion euros. The main reason for the changes is an 18-billion-euro Macro-Financial Assistance (MFA) package agreed by the EU for 2023.
              >EU 52bn
              >US 48bn

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You told me to look at the source at https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ so i did, and that's what the website gave me didn't say anything about a MFA. and i won't be surprised if the USA does even more aid. Like bro what are you trying to argue? that a whole continent can barely keep up with one nation?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Scroll further down to the heavy weapons part

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                again wow, a whole continent can barely keep up with the USA by itself, time to pat yourself on the back.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The US is practically an entire continent if you havnt noticed so its not stupid to compare them.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Canada is much bigger than the US and arguably has more resources, so if we're going by the size argument, shouldn't the leaves be doing more than the brits?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Size area and population are important factors to consider but so is money spent on their military. Canada spends much less of its GDP on their military and much of its land mass is heavily forested and sparsely populated. It has about 1/10th the population of the US. There is more to comparing than landmass and resources. Its why comparing the EU to the US actually works and comparing the EU to Canada doesnt.

                [...]
                It is stupid to compare them because half of Europe was under a communist dictatorship until 3 decades ago meaning the western part has to make up for that. It really shouldn't be anywhere close due to the comparable population sizes.

                Its still a reasonable comparison to make even with that argument. The only real contender that is even close to the US in terms of GDP population and actual real world military prowess is the EU. China is gaining ground but who knows how much of that is a bunch of blowhard bullshit that doesnt stand up. We dont know.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The US is practically an entire continent if you havnt noticed so its not stupid to compare them.

                It is stupid to compare them because half of Europe was under a communist dictatorship until 3 decades ago meaning the western part has to make up for that. It really shouldn't be anywhere close due to the comparable population sizes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And if we add the rest of the world that Kiel says have sent support (leafs, aussies, asians), we get about 30.959 billion euros

              My moron in Christ (pbuh) you are bad at reading.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >do basic addition
                >come with an answer
                >"uhm actually that's not right because of something we didn't tell you in our source"
                Why do you argue like a moron?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so I did the math

                Kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EU is now the strongest force in the world.
        see you when Americans save you for the third time

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Inbred is literally the opposite of a mutt

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >inbred mutt
        Kind of an oxymoron innit?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        EU is a strong force to be sure and probably easily second place if they can coordinate properly but they lack the versatility and sheer ability to project power like the US. Much of the EU forces are localized defense forces and dont have the capability to do something such as perform military action on the other side of the planet for any extended period of time effectively. Its not a bad thing considering they are only dealing with defense of a relatively small portion of the planet. The US has to secure the largest amount of coastal areas out of anyone and the second largest raw amount of landmass only losing to Russia who actually have an easier time of it since much of theirs is tundra only accessible via the arctic. To secure so much requires immense logistical capability.

        A lot of people jerk off over the fancy toys and tech of the US military and many of them are incredible but the real star of the show is their logistical capability which is absurd.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >inbred mutt
        You are "German". Shut up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't Germans the only ones manly dependent on Russian oil? And that they buy a lot of French energy to survive? Seems ironic that German seems to be sucking French boot again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Germany has ditched any and all imports of russian fuel in the last 6 months or so. The EU is on its way or already at eliminating imports from Russia. It might not be fully weaned yet but the plans are in place and being executed.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Germany has ditched any and all imports of russian fuel
              false
              you're dumb.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even if Germany wouldn't have (and from what I know they did), Russia stopped exporting fuel to countries that agreed to the price-cap.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was one of their big plans to try and get the rest of the world to capitulate and look the other way. They tried to starve the people they export to of oil by reducing exports and such only for them to give Putin the finger and eliminate them ENTIRELY. The whole fucking invasion is a clusterfuck and all its going to do is ruin Russias reputation and eventually tank its economy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The closest that OP could be to a German is being a Serbian ir Russian migrant. OP is a gay shill, be warned

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hence quotation marks. He is brown

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >smallprint
    >commitments
    >including civilian aid
    yeah fuck off nonone cares amerimutta can pay their own wars

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    america isnt really committing, because they want to prolong the war. if they really wanted to end the war theyd have given f15's and m1's but alas

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it takes like 30 countries together just to match the total commitment of the USA
    >The USA isn't even fully committed to begin with
    *yawn*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the USA is 50 countries together

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retard

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cold winter didn't cause enough of an issue did it?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    commitments = delivered

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Spain
    >Italy
    >France
    Suddenly have donated more or the same as Poland?
    Wtf is this shit something is off with the chart.
    The British have also donated alot more than Germany what gives?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germans are retards, simple as. I'm calling bull on the chart but I did what the guy said and added up all the countries compared to america and he goes "muh MFA" that isn't it calculated yet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > I'm calling bull on the chart but I did what the guy said and added up all the countries
        Let me explain it to you in mutt: state vs federal budget. There is money given by countries individually, and there is money given by the EU in its own right, not as a collection of states.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None of this matters because America and Americans are going to have to go fight in Europe again to bail it
          out because all of the smartest Europeans fled for the new world, leaving it destitute to be pillaged and saved and ravaged and liberated and raped and freed over and over and over

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It must be nice being this delusional. Being able to stare at a blank wall and drool all over yourself must be pretty calming.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >None of this matters because America and Americans are going to have to go fight in Europe again to bail it
              As is fitting, given that you and the Russians are co-responsible for this mess. You fuck shit up and force us to clear the mess since it's in our neighborhood. Only Russia the Anglosphere wanted this war. Not the EU.

              Only Russia and* the Anglosphere wanted this war. All we want is for you imperialist fucks to LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE. Just for once.

              every 100 or so years, they try to conquer russia, and fail, this is like something that has gone for a thousand more years.. its like they forgot their lessons

              Absaloutley pathetic grovelling cowardly continentals.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >None of this matters because America and Americans are going to have to go fight in Europe again to bail it
            As is fitting, given that you and the Russians are co-responsible for this mess. You fuck shit up and force us to clear the mess since it's in our neighborhood. Only Russia the Anglosphere wanted this war. Not the EU.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Only Russia and* the Anglosphere wanted this war. All we want is for you imperialist fucks to LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE. Just for once.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                every 100 or so years, they try to conquer russia, and fail, this is like something that has gone for a thousand more years.. its like they forgot their lessons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germans are retards, simple as. I'm calling bull on the chart but I did what the guy said and added up all the countries compared to america and he goes "muh MFA" that isn't it calculated yet.

      >he fell for twitter propaganda and bongladesh press
      Lel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you mentally ill? The Kiel map says all those country's gave very little, but the chart in OP says they have given lots.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried reading what you're talking about to be able to explain the difference (whose nature is clearly illustrated) yourself, instead of being a literal monkey?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He thinks Spain is a big contributor to Ukraine
        1,370 Instalaza C-90 anti-tank grenade launchers, an unspecified number of light machine guns and 700,000 bullets on 2 March 2022.[447]
        Unspecified shipment of arms and ammunition[448] containing an unspecified quantity of URO VAMTAC armoured vehicles[449]
        One RG-31 Nyala mine-resistant vehicle configured as an ambulance[448]
        Eight light military vehicles dispatched from the Spanish army to Ukraine on 7 October 2022. 12 more vehicles also pledged.[450]
        On 10 November 2022, Spain announced that it would provide Ukraine with two HAWK air defence systems and a battery of six light howitzers.[451]

        That is everything Spain donated to Ukraine. Look at me with a straight face and tell me that accounts to €6bn

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That is everything Spain donated to Ukraine. Look at me with a straight face and tell me that accounts to €6bn
          Anon, I want you to look at the OP pic and read it.
          Actually read it. Find out what the different colors mean and then report back to me.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A Bradley cost like 4.25 million per unit, and 50 of them is around 212500000$ USD

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shit tier infighting attempt

    moron, everyone is working together to fuck up Russians its now a showboating competition.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >he fell for twitter propaganda and bongladesh press
      Lel

      100% the OP of this thread is just some shitskin or chink trying to divide and conquer. Only people who use the term "mutt' on PrepHole are pajeets and the like

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, what is the Orange bars for? Is that some made up aid?
    Because if you take that away it starts to look more believable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can somebody explain to me why anglos never learn to interpret graphs in school?
      Who was the president who showed 2 meaningless graphs on tv and went
      >our plan goes up, theirs goes down
      And it actually worked?
      I tried to find the video because it's funny. Thought it was JFK but apparently not.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you seething about anglos? one minutes it's americans next it's anglos. Seems odd with you simping for the EU as a whole.
        unless.....

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was my first post about it and this thread is filled with brits and Americans failing to read a simple graph.
          I think that's funny.
          Sorry if I hurt your feelings, anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you agree the graph isn't an accurate representation of aid to Ukraine? And that this one

            https://i.imgur.com/9Nw3Fw7.jpg

            Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
            Picrel is a more accurate graph for the current situation it factors out stupid loans for post war rebuilding that has nothing to do with right now

            shows the situation much clearer

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do you agree the graph isn't an accurate representation of aid to Ukraine?
              Anon...

              >Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
              >money doesn't count when it's the weing color because I don't want it to
              Anon the picture you posted agrees with OP's pic, the orange that is sorted by countries there is simply summarized in one bar in yours.
              That was a really low IQ post, goddamn

              The only difference between the two graphs you're talking about is that EU contributions are bundled in yours.
              But money and materiel funneled through the EU in special funds is still individually contributed by the countries on these lists.
              Why would spanish aid not count as Spanish aid just because Spain sent it through the EU as a middleman?
              Do you think money just magically appears?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We read your graphs and counter it with our points, and you act like a sterotypical smug eurofag and brush it off as "silly brits/americans can't read", we can read, how about you read our counter points and graphs first.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Okay but your "counterpoints" are literally based on you failing to read basic English.
              And the other graph that one anon posted agrees with OP's image it just doesn't sort EU contributions by country.
              I don't wanna be a dick but you morons need to fix your education system badly goddamn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The aim is to provide short-term financial relief, financing Ukraine’s immediate needs, rehabilitation of critical infrastructure and initial support towards sustainable post-war reconstruction, with a view to supporting Ukraine on its path towards European integration.

      Basically the EU have borrowed money to lend to Ukraine, then they split the share between EU nations so they could add the respective amount to the Aid Donation Chart.
      It's nothing to do with military aid or even to use right now it's just for help rebuilding.

      Tldr OPs pic is just the EU doing mental gymnastics to make its nations look like they performed better than they have. The blue bar is what matters.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also how the fuck would an "EU" army work? sounds like a repeat of the Austro Hungarian army from WW1
    >mfw when my commander is speaking germen, machine gunners speaking French, logistic fags speaking Spanish and the arty guys are speaking Czech/Polish.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They will all speak english, english is a mandatory wnd language in europe, where we learn 3 languages in middle school and high school (native, english and some countries do a 3rd). The reasoning behind this is the fact that english is the language of global trade.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
    Picrel is a more accurate graph for the current situation it factors out stupid loans for post war rebuilding that has nothing to do with right now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BUT WHERE IS SPAIN AND ITALY! OPS CHAT SAYS WE ARE GOOD!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
      >money doesn't count when it's the weing color because I don't want it to
      Anon the picture you posted agrees with OP's pic, the orange that is sorted by countries there is simply summarized in one bar in yours.
      That was a really low IQ post, goddamn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ignore the Orange look at the Blue
      Have you never read a graph in your life? You do understand that you have to also look at the legend, right?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >EU gets its shit (mostly) together for once
    Fucking finally, now watch as the whole thing reverts into a circus after Russia collapses.
    t. Italian

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: Eurofags try to divide NATO with money dick measuring contest

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, this is just sad.
      You morons can't read. I really hope this is all a false flag.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So is getting laughed at a "false flag"? You've shat up this whole thread to prove something that doesn't exist. I thought the whole false flag accusations was people crying about NAFO or the like.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think I am who you think I am and haven't made the posts you think I have.
          With false flag I mean that it's retards trying to make brits and Americans look bad by pretending not to understand how to read simple graphs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would Brits and Americans feel bad they've clearly given the most military support look at the chart its not even close to anyone else. The money from the EU is for postwar rebuilding and infrastructure.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but no.
              America has given the most individually, the EU has given more combined, Britain is not second place as Germany has given more if you factor in its contributions through EU funds, collections and special donations. EU contributions also consist out of military materiel and not just money (though it is mostly money) and it's not just for rebuilding.
              What gave you the false impression you have, fren?

              I mean people earlier in the thread were saying it's a chink/pajeet thread, and the only people i know on PrepHole that throw around "mutt" liberally are the pajeets so yeah. To be honest i have no idea why pajeets would be pro russia when russia is becoming a CCP puppet state.

              >mean people earlier in the thread were saying it's a chink/pajeet thread,
              OP definitely didn't post this in good faith. If he would have he could have easily found a better graph to illustrate his point on the same website by just scrolling a bit further down because knew statistic directly compares EU and Americdn contributions.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OP definitely didn't post this in good faith.
                I just find it funny we get this types of threads that supposed to bring division in NATO and the west, seems rather slimly if you asked me.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only thing they are going to divide is a bunch of fucking schizos anyway who are best off ignored.

                >Germany has ditched any and all imports of russian fuel
                false
                you're dumb.

                https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-says-it-will-stop-buying-russian-coal-aug-1-oil-dec-31-2022-07-13/

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >False impression
                Nothing I said is false fren it's right there on the chart. Notice the post you replied to said military aid which is the blue bar on

                https://i.imgur.com/9Nw3Fw7.jpg

                Ignore the Orange look at the Blue it's just the EU trying to look cool
                Picrel is a more accurate graph for the current situation it factors out stupid loans for post war rebuilding that has nothing to do with right now

                this chart.
                Even with the EUs €18bn MFA spread between the EU nations that doesn't change the fact the UK has donated much more military hardware than Germany. Germany may be number 2 now but that's only through the EUs Post war funding package which has nothing to do with Military aid like I mentioned in my first post anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean people earlier in the thread were saying it's a chink/pajeet thread, and the only people i know on PrepHole that throw around "mutt" liberally are the pajeets so yeah. To be honest i have no idea why pajeets would be pro russia when russia is becoming a CCP puppet state.

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