Ukrainian SU-27 spotted armed with AGM-88 HARM's

The fuck do you explain this shit?
>KG2G0Y

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AFAIK they're flying with an iPad duct taped to the cockpit as launch control

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This one?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Flying around killing SAMs with an iPad and teddy bear

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jesus i thought he was joking
        reverse image search also turns up video, 42s

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          at 0:40 garmin falls off 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder if Yevgen was the wingman we see at 0:44 and 1:07?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that a Garmin right next to it? The screen looks exactly like my Edge 530

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. That's been a thing on any Ruskie derived combat aircraft for awhile now. You can find pics from the last decade of the Ruskies doing the same thing. So much for GLONASS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/does-ukraine-now-have-agm-88-high-speed-anti-radiation-missiles
        This article talks about the possibility of having a soviet era jet and just a tablet duct taped to the dashboard as the launch interface for the HARM so wikipedia fags have immediately copy pasted it like it's gospel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The LAU-118/A with Aircraft Launch Interface Computer (ALIC) is all that is needed. Some way to get the right voltage to it through a harness adapter combined with maybe a simplug which makes the airplane's on-board electronics think it's talking to an R-27 and not an AGM-88b HARM. I honestly don't think the tablet has anything to do with the integration, or fire control of the HARM. You just need to get a fire pulse to the HARM with the right voltage, and you're good to go. The programming of the HARM goes through the ALIC, which can be programmed on the ground. The ALIC is circled and highlighted in picrel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I honestly don't think the tablet has anything to do with the integration
            I'm with you there, to be honest it just looks like a GPS to me. I mean, aren't the Uke MiGs bog standard 29As? Their Nav systems must be ancient.
            Anyway, I've been of the opinion they've been firing in Pre-Brief from the start, this talk about NATO MiG parts with 1553 integration allowing full HARM functionality seems like too strong a dose of Hopium. afaik just having that data bus installed is only the start of things anyway, you'll need to do a lot more to get full functionality.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man, what a smart ALIC!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Nbf7uR6.png

          The LAU-118/A with Aircraft Launch Interface Computer (ALIC) is all that is needed. Some way to get the right voltage to it through a harness adapter combined with maybe a simplug which makes the airplane's on-board electronics think it's talking to an R-27 and not an AGM-88b HARM. I honestly don't think the tablet has anything to do with the integration, or fire control of the HARM. You just need to get a fire pulse to the HARM with the right voltage, and you're good to go. The programming of the HARM goes through the ALIC, which can be programmed on the ground. The ALIC is circled and highlighted in picrel.

          I would bet that they are preplanned on the ground and the tablet thing is just fucking nonsense as usual from the drive. Early HARM variants are INS only, so they would require communication with the aircraft to determine the launch position while later ones appear to have GPS receivers. If the missile is preprogrammed to attack a geographic area then all that needs to be done is for the pilot to fly to an acceptable launch region (indicated on the nav suite on the tablet) and pull the trigger, only mod to the aircraft electronics is enabling it to give the launch impulse.

          If they jury-rigged it to transfer INS information from the soviet systems to the HARM, that would be a really interesting feat.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Giving missile INS data from the GPS data would not be that difficult provided the rail is pimped out with a computer that interfaces with the HARM

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I would bet that they are preplanned on the ground and the tablet thing is just fucking nonsense as usual from the drive.
            Me too, I guarantee they're running AGM-88b's with block II software in Pre-Briefed (PB) mode, and Tyler is a brainlet as usual.
            >Early HARM variants are INS only, so they would require communication with the aircraft to determine the launch position while later ones appear to have GPS receivers. If the missile is preprogrammed to attack a geographic area then all that needs to be done is for the pilot to fly to an acceptable launch region (indicated on the nav suite on the tablet) and pull the trigger, only mod to the aircraft electronics is enabling it to give the launch impulse.
            Yeah, if you watch the RWR in the Mig-29 video, there seems to be no indications from it that it is picking up any radar signals, which, to me, indicates that they're running in PB mode and launching from preflight determined areas. The tablet looks more like flight mission software used to get them to that area using GPS.

            >I honestly don't think the tablet has anything to do with the integration
            I'm with you there, to be honest it just looks like a GPS to me. I mean, aren't the Uke MiGs bog standard 29As? Their Nav systems must be ancient.
            Anyway, I've been of the opinion they've been firing in Pre-Brief from the start, this talk about NATO MiG parts with 1553 integration allowing full HARM functionality seems like too strong a dose of Hopium. afaik just having that data bus installed is only the start of things anyway, you'll need to do a lot more to get full functionality.

            >Anyway, I've been of the opinion they've been firing in Pre-Brief from the start,
            Me too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I actually applaud the app developer who got the task of
        >fire this fucking missile with an Ipad.
        and just made it happen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ipad part is trivial the hard part is getting a modem that would let you control the missile
          I wonder if they just jerry riged one on to the launch rail and then made it connect to the tablet via bluetooth or something lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ukraine seems to have a lot of very competent software developers if their artillery targeting system is anything to go by

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Probably asked the STALKER developers for help, maybe?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw you will never perform SEAD missions against supposedly state of the art Russian air defence systems with Captain Ted the teddy bear and your jerry rigged iPad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where can I download the app? Asking for a friend

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SAM hunting with a teddy bear and a gps app on a tablet
        >Russians cant SEAD with proper equipment
        Based beyond belief

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The cobbled-together "anything that kills Russians" aesthetic really activates my almonds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is that a crop dusting nav unit?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What tactical advantage does the teddy bear give?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reduces the stress on bearings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >locked on russian radar signature
        >fire missile
        >"would you like to rate this app now?"

        imagine, an Ipad made with taiwanese microchips, fires an american missile through an application coded by some random pole from an Ukranian jet

        and russia still thinks they have a chance

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ANTI RADIATION MISSILE would like to know your location

          The memes are becoming more powerful than anticipated. If I had any doubts about the collective consciousness, they are gone now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I so want to do a massive phone hack where this message comes up, and can't be dismissed until someone taps/clicks "OK." When you tap OK, new message pops up:

            "Congratulations! The Hellfire Experience is on the way. Stay right where you are."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Hot single radiation signatures want to meet you

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Hot signals are seeking to me you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/za45wE9.jpg

        What tactical advantage does the teddy bear give?

        bear with bomber jacket
        was the ww2 bomber jacket a Soviet thing too or mostly American

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They mostly didn't fly high enough to need them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >flying in some Soviet era bag-of-ass Su-27, armed with AGM-88s jerry-rigged to the pylons, with your fire controls being an iPad, and your guidance being a Garmin GPS and a teddy bear
        Is there any flyboy in the US insane enough to do the shit that Uke pilots do?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In a lot of ways, all true pilots are the same. There's definitely some boys left on our side who have actually been shot at.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's the app's name pls tell me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >HARM's? ghetto rigged to a soviet shitbox
        >iPad? activated
        >bombing app? rated five stars
        >flying officer Teddyberenko? by my side
        >vatnigg SAM status? ERADICATED
        >violence? ESCALATING

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just gps

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine your multi million AA system getting iced by a rocket launched from a 3D printed rocket pod, and guided by Raspberry Pi
      2nd army fears the average hackaday.com user

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fucking wish that was a legit project on hackaday. "Launching HARM with raspberry pi"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Negative. What you see in

      https://i.imgur.com/mcFR2Ic.jpg

      This one?

      is just the commercial Garmin GPS navigation they use.

      What they did in actuality is that they added a microprocessor unit that emulates an F16 for the HARM and a R-27EP for the plane, and using that as a software adapter. You can see it in the video on the HDD in the bottom right of the Mig29 when it fires

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's the still from the video, showing the R27EP equipped, selected and authorized to fire on the HDD

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >R-27EP AA-10 Alamo-F, a longer-range passive anti-radiation missile with a range of up to 70 nm (110 km)
          Oh, interesting. This is one of those AWACS killer ARMs the russkies keep banging on about right?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think they say that more about KH31R or KS-172

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neat catch anon, I can't say for soviet aircraft, but in some western aircraft the stores are set on the ground by turning a few dials in the avionics bay, the plane doesn't actually know what it is carrying it just reads it from the dial settings. Figure they opted to use R27EP as the stand-in since ukies don't have any in stock?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but they likely used the R27EP due to the similar guidance system. Probably the easier way to fool the plane into launching a HARM

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Here's the still from the video, showing the R27EP equipped, selected and authorized to fire on the HDD
          I am fucking retarded. Where are you seeing this?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >emulates an F16 for the HARM and a R-27EP for the plane
        based AF
        nice one anon, thank you; nobody else here knows jack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's pretty cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Na they use the Ipad for the same Reason the Russians do in their jets. Navigation in Russian made jets sucks ass and consumer grade products are simply superior.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/28x2h9s.jpg

      The fuck do you explain this shit?
      >KG2G0Y

      Both Ukraine and Russia are using old soviet planes with juryrigged modifications. In Ukraine's case they basically pre-programmed the HARMs before mounting them on the plane.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they basically pre-programmed the HARMs before mounting
        People keep saying that but it means fuckall because there are various degrees of "pre-programming" with varying degrees of effectiveness when it comes to AGM88 and we don't know which is being applied here

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          90% of the time default settings are enough. However, you should be able to program in a multi-directional attack on a SAM network inflight.

          I fucking wish that was a legit project on hackaday. "Launching HARM with raspberry pi"

          There's probably some DARPA tech that has all the steps in a three ring binder. Fuckers just don't want to share.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I assure you there was no such binder. If such testing happened it would have been done by the manufacturer at the behest of some nato army that flew miss. But its unlikely finding weapons integration was a priority in the time of the peace dividend.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do you mean explain ?
    anything wrong here ?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's over.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best use of that meme I've seen all week. Fuck tge Ruskies

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ukraine wasn't given any NATO Flanker """Spare Parts""" right? So these shouldn't have MIL-STD1553 integration like the MiGs supposedly have?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      simple: AGM-88 is more platform-agnostic than AMRAAMs. they're easier to jury-rig

      not necessarily. there's integration and integration. like, you can connects these things and get them to launch, but that doesn't mean you can connect other payloads even if theoretically you now have MIL-STDwhatever rails

      I wouldn't be surprised if we'll end up seeing Mig-29s with the sniper pod dropping Paveways at some point, thus making these wartime upgraded migs better than anything that Russia has produced in the last 30 years to sell to pajeets, let alone to themselves

      earlier LGBs such as Paveway IIs might actually be rigged up much like the HARMs

      jesus i thought he was joking
      reverse image search also turns up video, 42s

      based

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not that I think it’s unlikely but how do you turn that blurry clump of pixels into a HARM? It might be but it also might not be.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oy vey, its anuda shoah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this actually a mass grave?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        afaik is burial of officers (whose bodies are actually recovered unlike normal troops) because they have right for burial, not specifying what kind of burial tho

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the fuck, a mass grave for officers...? Need more info I don't want to believe this lmao. Captured russian officers above a lieutetnant should have their kneecaps shot though no cap unironically.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Need more info I don't want to believe this lmao.
            Look at the watermark on the fucking video, numbnuts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >mass grave
            they call it Бpaтcкa мoгилa - Tomb of brothers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If that is all dead officers Russias command structure must be fucked right now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don't they have like 3 enlisted to every officer or something ridiculous like that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you have to be an officer to earn the right of not having your body left out for wild animals to pick apart

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is better this way comrade let nature take what's hers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        afaik is burial of officers (whose bodies are actually recovered unlike normal troops) because they have right for burial, not specifying what kind of burial tho

        oy vey, its anuda shoah

        i've seen similar burials for recovered bodies from ww2, it's probably just that, but i'd be happy to be proven wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To me it looks like a proper burial of WWII soldiers' remains found and ID'd after a successful search and recovery mission of war diggers. It was quite common in recent years in Russia as the demand for "patriotic and historical past" has been on the rise.

        There are still hundreds of thousands of MIA among soviet soldiers, bringing them back, giving them back their name and proper orthodox burial is not a bad thing.

        You can see the coffins do not look heavy, most likely there are just bones in it. This is the only sane reason for "Brothers' grave" in this situation.

        Here's a good example of such war diggers, their channel has english subtitles and is probably known in PrepHole. idunno
        https://www.youtube.com/c/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%AE%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't be surprised if we'll end up seeing Mig-29s with the sniper pod dropping Paveways at some point, thus making these wartime upgraded migs better than anything that Russia has produced in the last 30 years to sell to pajeets, let alone to themselves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      simple: AGM-88 is more platform-agnostic than AMRAAMs. they're easier to jury-rig

      not necessarily. there's integration and integration. like, you can connects these things and get them to launch, but that doesn't mean you can connect other payloads even if theoretically you now have MIL-STDwhatever rails

      [...]
      earlier LGBs such as Paveway IIs might actually be rigged up much like the HARMs

      [...]
      based

      I keep saying it, but we need to give them SLAM-ERs. They can have a target GPS programmed on the ground, then either do it fully autonomous or be controlled via data link remotely.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a happy little fella.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DO NOT TOUCH
        >WINDOW
        What happens if you touch the window?

        In the end it was silly but kinda wholesome urban legend.

        I hope that next Ace Combat game will have some reference to Ghost of Kyiv.

        >Group of pilots survive enemy attack though luck and courage
        >"It's my turn to be Ghost of Kyiv."
        >"You did that last mission!"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What happens if you touch the window?
          the missile tracks your cheeto finger prints rather than the target

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Smudge the glass. The original SLAM was literally a Harpoon with a Maverick Seeker for terminal guidance and Walleye data link. The ER was a ground up redesign to enhance its capabilities.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What happens if you touch the window?
          it would be very painful

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're a big guy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks, that's what my girlfriend says.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just works I guess.

    What other jun- fine vintage weapons do we have left to give to ukraine for dispos- their defense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's some cannon we haven't used since the early 90's hanging about somewhere. We could give them that?
      I think it's called MARAUDER? idk it's something that's just sitting there mothballed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >MARAUDER
        I don't think America gonna hand over a prototype plasma cannon to Ukraine, unless...

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a SU-27 of the fabled air force of the mythical nation of Ukraine that was destroyed in the first hours of the war
    >still flying
    >flying fucking SEAD missions at that
    >mfw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have now come full circle and once again unironically believe in the Ghost of Kiev

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, people started talking about the ghost of Kiev because everyone the Ukranian airforce was gone on the first day, but people were still seeing the occasional Mig flying missions against the russkies. At the time, people imagined it was a lone survivour desparatly holding out and playing ace combat IRL. Turns out, people still saw Ukie aircraft because their airforce was never wiped out to begin with.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In the end it was silly but kinda wholesome urban legend.

          I hope that next Ace Combat game will have some reference to Ghost of Kyiv.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ghost of SEAD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia cant SEAD with a large fairly modern airfoce
      >Ukraine flying SEAD sorties with "no airforce" every day with aircraft that were never intended to an AGM-88
      Clown timeline, but I like this episode.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally evidence of the timeline correcting itself.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how Ukraine was given "spare plane parts"? aka entire disassembled NATO-integrated fighter jets.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    S-300/400 GET FUCKED

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I warned people 6 months ago, the entire western MIC got one big boner over the amount of cash that just started flowing into their veins again.
    Now it wants to fuck

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukrainians have HARMs
    >Russians trained SEAD manoeuvres with 500kg unguided bombs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The MIC is going to be hyping the chinese as fuck to keep themselves in bussiness lol.

      Turns out Russia as a near peer adversary for NATO is a total joke.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This war will simultaneously tank Russian aircraft reputation (thanks to the VVS) and save it (thanks to the PSU)

    What a fucking time to be alive.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the us has migs of their own.
    no doubt they had this project shelved for later use
    still fucking clever though.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ukraine still has a functioning air force that seeks and destroys russian anti-air 200 days into the special military operation
    this is some joke

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember, Russia's GDP is lower than Mexico.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where there's a need, a solution will be found. Remember that Iran flies F-4s and F-14s with Russian and Chinese weapons mounted.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    east and west friendship

    the good part of the east

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The fuck do you explain this shit?
    Mfw America probably already has access to all of the SU-27s computer's source code by now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not all fixed function?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've honestly no clue.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    US has been working with Russian jets for years. They know them as well as they know their own fighter jets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf? can the US military really afford to be fucking around with jets they don't even manufacture?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah we have 21 American Mig-29s. God bless Moldovabros and the American MIC

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Plus, there’s at least two Su-27’s in private hands, and I am willing to bet that the US military has some squirreled away at Groom Lake or somewhere

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wonder if modernized Flankers might find their way to the US MIC

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Plus, there’s at least two Su-27’s in private hands, and I am willing to bet that the US military has some squirreled away at Groom Lake or somewhere

          still doesn't make sense to me, it can't be sustainable financially for the US to work on jets that they don't and have never used, i have my doubts about them being able to afford this in the long run

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn’t HAVE to be financially sustainable. It’s the military.
            Plus, it’s not like they’re being flown every day having tons of wear and tear put on them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah but what im speaking is that the US military does not have infinite money, in order to stay matched with china they should not be playing around with jets they do not make

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dude, a couple dozen jets aren’t even a drop in the bucket. They’re closer to a molecule of water in the bucket

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the US military does not have infinite money,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stay matched with china

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Krokodil has turned whatever passed for your brain into a drooling bucket pig slobber. I've rarely seen anyone post something this fucking retarded on PrepHole, and the competition has been hot & heavy for years.

                https://i.imgur.com/toze1jt.png

                >the US military does not have infinite money,

                (You) insanely stupid vatmoron. The West, and the U.S. in particular, has been training pilots on these platforms for nearly 40 years. We've made more than a few improvements & fixes. It's unlikely that Russian pilots could fly these planes anymore once they've been fully modded and upgraded. We use them in war games to simulate shooting vatmorons down, except that we use the upgraded versions to make it challenging.

                Now, tell us all about the F-16 training that vatmoron pilots recieve? Or, is that too expensive for Russia to afford? Surely, Russia has an entire fleet of F-16s they've disassembled and put back together again with improvements the West is incapable of developing. Right? Right ..........??

                My dude, a couple dozen jets aren’t even a drop in the bucket. They’re closer to a molecule of water in the bucket

                1. Reverse engineering actually makes you money and improves your technical expertise.
                2. If it prevents the loss of a single US fighter, it probably paid off the R&D cost.
                3. The US budget has way more money than you think.
                4. Seriously, look up the budget. It’s mind boggling.
                5. Lol, financially sustainable, this guy
                6. lmao

                you will see the wisdom in my words in the coming months

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gee, I sure wish the US bought a single extra F-35 for the same cost as operating an entire aggressor squadron of fulcrums

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You have no wisdom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah but what im speaking is that the US military does not have infinite money, in order to stay matched with china they should not be playing around with jets they do not make

                [...]
                still doesn't make sense to me, it can't be sustainable financially for the US to work on jets that they don't and have never used, i have my doubts about them being able to afford this in the long run

                wtf? can the US military really afford to be fucking around with jets they don't even manufacture?

                >p-p-please stop analysing my fighter jets for all its secrets, y-y-you can't afford it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We do more than just their jets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Krokodil has turned whatever passed for your brain into a drooling bucket pig slobber. I've rarely seen anyone post something this fucking retarded on PrepHole, and the competition has been hot & heavy for years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the US military does not have infinite money
                Correct, it has 720 billion dollars per year, of which it has spent 18 on this war in the last 6 months. If the Pentagon stopped giving a fuck and went full WW3, they could go at it 18 times harder than they are right now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US military
                >has 720 billion dollars per year
                > of which it has spent 18 on this war in the last 6 months
                That's not really very accurate at all.

                First, The U.S. Congress made a budget for Ukraine, and the majority of that budget (if not very nearly all of it) is allocated funds apart from the military budget. There have been allocations to the U.S. military to replace equipment they are donating/loaning. There are also allocations to cover the human time & man hours being invested.

                For the most part, the U.S. military (via executive action) has been "drawing down" huge stockpiles of equipment and other helpful resources that were already purchased years ago. Some of it decades ago.

                In summary, only a fraction of the aid coming from the U.S. is coming out of the military budget. The military is being compensated for the resources it is donating, and for its activities in support of Ukraine, but the majority of the aid packages are money that Congress is allocating from the Federal government for Ukraine, and to help out other countries and organizations that are helping Ukraine. Currently, the U.S. is floating around $100 billion across about a dozen different aid packages, which will spend most of the money over the next three to five years or so. Probably less than $20 billion, if not under $15 billion, are coming out of military bank accounts. The U.S. military is not spending any money it's already received previous to this war, and what it is spending will be compensated out of the Federal Treasury as "Ukraine spending," not "military spending."

                But, I also expect the next military budget to exceed $800 billion, using Ukraine as an excuse that the U.S. military isn't well-funded enough for what we ask it to do.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1. Reverse engineering actually makes you money and improves your technical expertise.
            2. If it prevents the loss of a single US fighter, it probably paid off the R&D cost.
            3. The US budget has way more money than you think.
            4. Seriously, look up the budget. It’s mind boggling.
            5. Lol, financially sustainable, this guy
            6. lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (You) insanely stupid vatmoron. The West, and the U.S. in particular, has been training pilots on these platforms for nearly 40 years. We've made more than a few improvements & fixes. It's unlikely that Russian pilots could fly these planes anymore once they've been fully modded and upgraded. We use them in war games to simulate shooting vatmorons down, except that we use the upgraded versions to make it challenging.

            Now, tell us all about the F-16 training that vatmoron pilots recieve? Or, is that too expensive for Russia to afford? Surely, Russia has an entire fleet of F-16s they've disassembled and put back together again with improvements the West is incapable of developing. Right? Right ..........??

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia did not do this because they were not paranoid maniacs always preparing to start a war of aggression like NATO USA has been preparing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like a Russian problem, what are you going to do about it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >W-we tot-TOTALLY have infinite monies!
                >rossiya stronkest!
                >W-w-e COULD have done it! We just didn't want to!
                Cool story, bro.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        still doesn't make sense to me, it can't be sustainable financially for the US to work on jets that they don't and have never used, i have my doubts about them being able to afford this in the long run

        Johnny Oblast from New York province here and many agreements per all of mine tax monies being stolen by Brandon is big unfair. America got broked by the democraps and we are not having time or monies to play with ancient Soviet planes. Vote for Trump in November and make all these things fixed immediately! I am so many mad!!!

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They bought them from Moldova in the 90s

    https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/07/how-the-u-s-military-purchased-21-russian-mig-29-fighter-jets/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn. We owe Moldova. Maybe we can fix their Transnigeria problem, give them a shot at the EU, or at least reunification with Romania.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be February 24th
    >be systems engineer at Raytheon
    >watching live updates of Russian invasion on the news
    >boss walks in
    >drops stack of binders dated from the 90s on the desk
    >anon call over to this number at Lock art and this number at Northrup
    >figure out how to fire HARMS from Migs and Sukois
    >blood for the blood god
    I'm convinced this is how it happened

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Be Raytheon employee
      >See updates from Russian invasion
      >Watch stock price crater as Russkies trip over their own dicks
      >Cry into pile of MIC money (which could have been bigger)

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!
    Won't anybody STOP them??! SOMEbody DO something!!

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these things just home in on their own on radar right? so all you need to know is where the enemy AA system is generally via its radar signature, and then you launch the missile in the direction of the AA and it corrects its trajectory on its own by detecting and homing in on the radar signature, right?

    so they don't need a ton of complex equipment to launch them, they just need to rig the aircraft to have the pilot release / activate the missile and let it do its thing right? It's not like something that's GPS guided where you would have to feed the GPS data into it as well as its current position so it knows where to go and calculate its trajectory.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turkish Aselsan outfitted Azerbaijani Su-25s with such avionics so it can use Turkish-made precision missiles and bombs. It was done like 10 years ago

    An additional Aselsan multi-function display is visible in Su-25 cockpit. It commands HGK series bombs and other things

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >moron-rigged HARMs using a fucking tablet as a firing interface being launched from slavshit that hasn't been updated since 1981 is all it takes to fuck up Russian air defenses

    there's no bottom, is there?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    time to shoot down the moon

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