Ukrainian M60

Ukraine has proposed building an advanced upgrade variant of the American M60. Proposed by the Ukrainian KMDB company, it would feature imported donor M60 hulls and running gear mated to a Ukrainian built turret originally designed for a Turkish tender. This turret which has been tested on the T84 features French and Ukrainian electronics, an active protection system and a 120mm gun fed from a bustle mounted autoloader. Donor hulls would likely come from large stocks of stored M60 vehicles in Latin America and the Middle East.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >more stupid made up bullshit

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >KMDB
    Love Morozov design bureau but they're cursed by the poors.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >replace turret
    why?
    reconditioning it makes sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the legacy M60 turret is obsolete for the modern battlefield. It has an old 105mm gun without modern optics, has no active protection system and has ammo stored around the crew compartment which kills the crew if penned. The Yatagan turret has a Swiss NATO 120mm gun, optics similar to the Leclerc, Zaslin/Pulat active protection and has the ammo stored in a bustle rack with blow out panels.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Swiss NATO 120mm

        Good luck getting the mountain monkeys to agree to that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukrainians already bought all the rights and machining to make them. They've been keeping the factory alive by making new guns for Thailand, Chile and Arab armies. The Germans even approved of their quality control.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you remember how much fuss the swiss made about transfering ammo for gepards to ukraine?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope you liked the M60 the first time around, because you're about to see it Yatagan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Carlos, I swear to God.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Curlos approves.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bomb Mexico.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You make it seem like this is recent. The model you show was a proposal Morozov made to Brazil years ago. Would've loved to see it happen of course, never once saw a Kharkiv design I didn't at least like.

      oh carlos 🙂

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I believe KMDB can track it's lineage back to the first masonry guild, that which manifests itself in a ancient desire to slather bricks on any and all AFVs encountered

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Kharkiv-Morozov chan is real
            Got more anon?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/iEw1fv2.png

              I believe KMDB can track it's lineage back to the first masonry guild, that which manifests itself in a ancient desire to slather bricks on any and all AFVs encountered

              Given how obsessed they are with bricks a KMBD chan should be an absolute brickhouse with a massive rack

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Kharkiv-Morozov chan is real
            Got more anon?

            Why would an Ukie girl drink Polish beer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick you Carlos go frick yourself you fricking fricker with your frickface and fricking stupid jokes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope Trump deports you

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are about 9,000 M60s running. There are about 13,000 T72s. If this rate of attrition in Ukraine keeps going on we may see more M60s on earth than T72s. It would be an unironic paradigm shift where the west could dump both more bottom barrel surplus and bleeding edge low rate tanks all at once.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is, nobody using M-60s wants to give them up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Egyptians, Saudis, Taiwanese, Turks and Brazilans all have the M60 and could be given new Abrams in exchange for giving up their M60s. Taiwan and Turkey are expected to go for this thing. Saudis and Brazilians have been offered new Abrams. That's about 1,000 donor vehicles.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >trade Abrams for a boneyard M-60s
          >THEN we can refurbish them with upgrades
          Yeah, that's not giving them up, that's possibly the most 1 sided deal ever conceived.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you moronic? The total opposite is the proposal. You give up your old M60 hull to Ukraine who modernizes it and then you get a new Abrams.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >give up old shit
              >we now owe you new shit
              Unless you're talking about a 10:1 exchange rate that's a shit deal for us to honor. That or 1 tank donated lets you buy 1 25% off Abrams

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The payment is in dead Russians. If we can field a refurbished M60 faster than an Abrams, then trading M60s today for Abrams tomorrow is a positive return on dead Russians.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact you think 1:1 trade deal of Abrams to M-60 is a good deal tells me everything I need to know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >give up old shit
                >we now owe you new shit
                Unless you're talking about a 10:1 exchange rate that's a shit deal for us to honor. That or 1 tank donated lets you buy 1 25% off Abrams

                Can you translate this from alcoholic vodknik to English for me?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >not wanting to gut our modern fleet to give Ukraine some second rate tanks they might theoretically be able to upgrade makes you a vatnik
                Or, frickwit, we cut out the middleman and just send more Abrams. God Ukrainian dickriders are morons

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's a roach, anon. All he sees is dollar signs and his own benefit, and us Whyte racists are infidel imperialists for not agreeing to it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The 4,500-6,000 M60 in US stockpiles are disused and sitting in deserts and underground bunkers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My brother in christ that photo is from 1998. The US doesn't store a significant number of M60 or M60 derivative tanks anywhere. The vast majority were given as aid with the rest being used as targets if they weren't used for speciality vehicles

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't matter how often you repeat it, the only M60s we have left are recovery and engineering vehicles. The rest are either in some shithole's inventory, riddled full of holes, or sleeping with the fishes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WSDOT has two M60s and several F-150 technicals with 105mm recoilless rifles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                May we see CURRENT photos? I thought not.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes the thousands of M60s in storage, right next to the warehouse with millions of M1903s and right down the road from the strategic federal reserve of goth chicks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you think Biden will give us a a free goth gf to combat hoeflation?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >strategic federal reserve of goth chicks
                catgirls or go home

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >strategic federal reserve of goth chicks
                AWOOOOOOOOGA

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What about tactical tomboy reserves?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depleted in the 90s during Operation Restore Hoes in order to improve Somalia's pussy infrastructure, attempts have been made to replenish it but its looking grim

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Operation Restore Hoes
                The worst part is, that operation was mostly a failure. A lot of them ended up across the Middle East and in organized crime in Europe instead of staying there.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The US scrapped the M60 fleet years ago. There are a few serving as engineering vehicles. I doubt Israel, Turkey, Taiwan, or Egypt want to send their M60 tanks to get blown up in Ukraine. Plus, where are you going to refurbish all of these vehicles at?

              Are you not aware that the electric grid in Ukraine is completely fricked? There's nowhere for them to assemble these things in Ukraine and certainly not in Western countries either who have an anemic MIC that has to practically be browbeaten into producing anything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why not give the Abrams to Ukraine, is the tank THAT ill suited for the Ukrainian battlefield

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why not give the Abrams to Ukraine
            Cucked administration

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Egyptians, Saudis, Taiwanese, Turks and Brazilans all have the M60 and could be given new Abrams in exchange for giving up their M60s
          Let those shithole countries keep their shit tanks and send the abrams to ukraine instead. Frick turkey and saudi arabia they can have dirt for all I care

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine provides videos like a cat presents the prey it kills to their owner. They ought to get more Abrams (but way more Bradleys) for the insane amounts of good boy points they earn.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Turkey and Taiwan are keeping their M60 and countries like Saudi and Egypt wont gonna hot transfer their M60 directly to Ukraine so their mutt friend have to purchase these old tanks and transfer them to Ukraine

          There's also countries like Morocco, israel and Thailand that keep sizeable number of M60

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Egyptians
          Basically a Russian ally after they sold them their Ka-52 engine stocks.
          >Saudis
          Maybe yeah.
          >Taiwan
          They need every tank they have.
          >Turks
          Possible indeed but I'd imagine they'd rather sell Ukraine their own M60 mods.
          >Brazil
          Nope. Russian ally. They refused to sell Germany 30mm ammo which could've been used by Gepards against Russia. No way Lula will transfer tanks to fight against Russians.

          Might have better luck asking if the Greeks haven't scrapped some of their +600 M60s yet otherwise nations like Morocco or Bahrain might be an option

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The turdworld must suffer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Brazil is non factor tbh. Their M60 number could barely fill one battalion worth and with shipping and shit it wouldn't be worth it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >given new Abrams in exchange for giving up their M60s
          > about 1,000 donor vehicles
          Jesus fricking Christ ... just give Ukraine 1000 Abrams. All those other countries can buy their own shit, unless they're too stupid to prepare ahead of time before they need it. In which case, frick them all. Taiwan is the only country I'd consider giving a break to, so maybe send them 100 Abrams and send 900 to Ukraine.

          Like, fricking today already.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turkey can always make more. We gave them the factory tools. The vehicle is still in production, just not in the US.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Israelis, Brazilians, Egyptians and Italians can make new build M60 too but it's a non starter. It's an old design.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Israel also shelved their Magachs once the Merkava Mk.4 entered production.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GOD YES

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would be interesting to see

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 3 weeks ago
    Yukari

    >it's another Pattontard thread
    There are no M60s in storage in the US.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >M60 upgunned to Abrams levels
    Where on the reformer scale would that vehicle land?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that sounds like every comparison of german tanks vs allied/soviet slop on reddit.

      >muh reliability
      >muh cost
      >muh numbers

      It probably would take a war between US states with those tanks to shut people up for 5 years after which it will start again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Next to flying M113

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >probably good enough to fight anything russia has
    >cheaper than buying a newer tank
    makes sense ig

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is M60 turk our newest in the roster of weird autist characters like warriortard and armatard? Should I start obsessing over some weird shit like saying the fricked up brazillian FAL modernisations are better than the XM7 or something?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M60tard has been making these types of threads for at least a year now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Yukari

        M60tard threads have been a thing at least since 2022. They were rare prior to the war but this one homosexual is an obsessed war tourist.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The huge pushback ITT is proof that this is a good idea and the Russians are afraid. If the ukies have the capacity, just do it. They know what they need.
    >just get abrams
    Abrams only makes sense in the US Army. It's fat, heavy and gas guzzling. It's obsoleted by drones too. Might as well field more cheap tanks if you can't beat drones.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So...after 60 replies is there any source for OP's claim?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only M60s in Ukraine are the bridge layer variants.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does the M60 stack up to the Leo 1, if I remember right that interview last week had a bit where the Ukrainian guy said that the AFU really liked it for it’s mobility, accuracy, and while the gun struggled against modern armor even with older ammunition it could score mission kills since a direct hit on the turret could frick up the systems. If it’s broadly comparable in those categories to the Leo 1, getting even M60 TTS or a more modern upgrade package may not be a bad idea

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Other than the armor, M60 is a tall tank it's easier to upgrade them and you can put 120mm on M60 without changing the whole turret

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does the M60 stack up to the Leo 1, if I remember right that interview last week had a bit where the Ukrainian guy said that the AFU really liked it for it’s mobility, accuracy, and while the gun struggled against modern armor even with older ammunition it could score mission kills since a direct hit on the turret could frick up the systems. If it’s broadly comparable in those categories to the Leo 1, getting even M60 TTS or a more modern upgrade package may not be a bad idea

        Better yet, just give them Abrams turrets. The main issue with the Abrams is the fuel intensive gas turbine engine. The M60 2000 is basically just an Abrams on M60 drivetrain with a diesel V12. The M60 is huge and overbuilt and is very receptive to upgrades.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So uh, what's the point of the M10 Booker if the M60 can do practically anything it can? Even if the old fleet is scrapped, the US can always ask its allies to build brand-new hulls.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An uparmored M60 weighs as much as an Abrams and is even bigger.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody brought up M10 into discussion until you came along

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