Ukrainian Forces Retreat to City Center of Bakhmut

Fresh image of the preparations for a bloody battle for control of Bakhmut.

Trenches are dug parallel to the roads. They are willing to defend the city and make it very painful for the vatniks.

  1. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Anti-tank hedgehogs are set up throughout the city to make passage nearly impossible for Vatnik armored vehicles.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The Chad makeshift hedgehog vs. the virgin dragon toothdecay

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        unironically, decoy dragons teeth are a fucking amazing idea.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          No they're not
          >Driving a tank or an IFV
          >Oh no a Dragons tooth!
          >"oh well I guess we will drive over it, slow us down by a minute"
          >"dragon tooth" actually hollow and crushes like a paper cup
          >tank crew hardly notices the difference

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >to make passage nearly impossible for Vatnik armored vehicles.
      Do the ruskie T-72's in ukraine carry any plows at all to force obstacles? Haven't seen any I think

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        they have anti-tank rollers, haven't seen plows yet

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          anti-anti-tank mine rollers*

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Whats stopping a tank from shooting them?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        5 men and 1 car can clean that

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >obstacle placed in usable path/road
        >shoot it with 125mm cannon
        >obstacle shards everywhere and giant hole in the patch you wanted to use

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          The tank can drive over the new small obstacles

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Now you made more obstacles and damaged the road. This is why hedgerows were such a massive pain in the ass in Western Europe until Shermans got bulldozers, and some funnies with flamethrowers rolled up.

  2. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It’s called Artemovsk, chud

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s called Artemovsk
      Sir, dont redeem name!

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >"Ivan Ivanovitch, I need artillery shells, of all sizes, fuel air bombs, Iskanders, send all of it at Artemovsk city center now!

      Hasn’t been called Artemovsk for almost a decade, retards.

      • 5 days ago
        Z

        I like to stay ahead of the times

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      “It’s Ma’am!”-posting but with a city name
      You are the chud here

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s called Artemovsk

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >It’s called Artemov-ACK

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the rope coiling up to hang the statue
        kino

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >fuck lenin, we will get new lgbt chud history form EU and US

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Unironically fuck Lenin the commie bastard.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          no, see, chuds are a 'psyop', so if you pay attention to the fact that USA is the chud world central, you're a vatnik

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous
            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              I did not know chuds existed before USA started worshiping them
              it's on you to put them back into the closet

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I did not know chuds existed until Russians started seething about them.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >a guy who wears a dress and uses dildos sometimes is the reason Russia is failing to invade a neighboring country

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              it's not the reason, and you knew that's not what I'm saying, so why derail like this? because you can't engage what I wrote directly

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >t. guy trying to change the subject of the whole thread
                guess what, to any westerner a "chud" (it's very obvious you're not from here btw) is a thing you see at a gay club when your friend takes you there once in your early 20s. or maybe someone you see walking on your campus for 5 seconds. literally no bearing on anything important ever.

                your "conservative trad alt right amazing country" is going to balkanize and putin is going to hang.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >is a thing you see at a gay club when your friend takes you there once in your early 20s

                That's gay dude

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                yep, what are you going to do about it vatnik?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm American. I just never heard of any straight people doing that outside of Scandinavian tourists

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder, what sort of a defect it is that has an average mutt instantly go
                >MUH VATNIG
                there's tens of millions of men in Europe still not completely on board the 'globohomo', and when they see the 'progress' your culture has made in the last decade, they are disgusted, and they will remind you of that once in a while
                chuds are a potent symbol of those changes, so they get a lot of airtime

                you're both so fucking obviously not from here. you know people used to make jokes about fucking deer on this very board right?

                just fucking leave. nobody likes you.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Don't need to seethe just because you're gay bro.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >brings up chuds first
                >instantly derails thread
                it's alright

                nta but straight women are OBSESSED with fags and trannies for some reason. if you live in a big city then pretty much every woman you meet will at one point try to drag you to a drag show or gay bar. sometimes I wish I was gay so I wouldn’t have to deal with retarded straight women anymore

                americans are super, insanely fucking homophobic to the point that almost all native english anti-lgbt shit you see on the internet comes from them.

                literally not american. a friend from work wanted to go to one and we were all like "yeah ok might as well". it was fine. one dude called me cute, i said thank you but i'm not interested, that was it.

                When I assert
                >no, see, chuds are a 'psyop', so if you pay attention to the fact that USA is the chud world central, you're a vatnik
                I expect a direct response when someone disagrees, not someone putting words in my mouth, it's that simple
                [...]
                >back to saying nothing with so many words
                I will leave when I feel like it, you are welcome to seethe more

                >I will leave when I feel like it, you are welcome to seethe more
                no, you'll leave when russia loses.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't bring up chuds. You and the other guy did talking about gay bars

                >never heard of it
                because you probably don’t talk to women

                projection. I live in Chicago, never had any women try and take me to a gay bar

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i-it wasn't me
                you're the one going on about gay people in a thread about bakhmut you gay.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Lol that seethe over letting it slip you are a gay. All you had to do was bring up the Moscow chud brothel that was raided recently, or the Russian politician that was arrested in Odessa with a chud in his bedroom and the vatnik would've just screeched and run away

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                nta but straight women are OBSESSED with fags and trannies for some reason. if you live in a big city then pretty much every woman you meet will at one point try to drag you to a drag show or gay bar. sometimes I wish I was gay so I wouldn’t have to deal with retarded straight women anymore

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I never heard of it. Maybe you are just secretly gay

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >never heard of it
                because you probably don’t talk to women

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                This sounds like one of those things you heard on 4chan, felt it confirmed everything you already thought, then started repeating it.

                https://i.imgur.com/anur2c9.jpg

                >brings up chuds first
                >instantly derails thread
                it's alright

                [...]
                americans are super, insanely fucking homophobic to the point that almost all native english anti-lgbt shit you see on the internet comes from them.

                literally not american. a friend from work wanted to go to one and we were all like "yeah ok might as well". it was fine. one dude called me cute, i said thank you but i'm not interested, that was it.

                [...]
                >I will leave when I feel like it, you are welcome to seethe more
                no, you'll leave when russia loses.

                For some reason I read Therapist as The Rapist.

                What's the point of holding this strategically irrelevant city and losing hundreds in urban fights and after artillery strikes? Russia may be losing 2x or even 3x more troops there, but these are mostly Wagner prisoners or mobiks, while Ukraine loses its best troops here. Just leave Bakhmut and prepare next defensive lines, and keep training troops for offensive in the south.
                Seems like Ukrainian AF are making huge mistakes now, maybe it's not as bad as RuAF did in the first days of war, but nevertheless they have already lost thousands of their best soldiers in Soledar and Bakhmut, who could have taken part in fighting near Kreminna.

                >Just leave Bakhmut and prepare next defensive lines,
                Stages of grief - Bargaining.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t go on 4chan

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder, what sort of a defect it is that has an average mutt instantly go
                >MUH VATNIG
                there's tens of millions of men in Europe still not completely on board the 'globohomo', and when they see the 'progress' your culture has made in the last decade, they are disgusted, and they will remind you of that once in a while
                chuds are a potent symbol of those changes, so they get a lot of airtime

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Dude you are living in a delusion. Even in "republican" states there are trannies walking around out in the open every day. Open your fucking eyes, chud's are becoming more and more normal. Until everyone is a chud, there are no families left and we are consumer #1 #2 #3 and so on and so forth. We need to contain and control mental diseases, not encourage them.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >>fuck lenin, we will get new lgbt chud history form EU and US
                How exactly do you expect people to “engage” this? By pointing out that Lenin was an objectively shitty person who dedicated his life to a failed ideology? Or by questioning what any of this has to do with trannies?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                When I assert
                >no, see, chuds are a 'psyop', so if you pay attention to the fact that USA is the chud world central, you're a vatnik
                I expect a direct response when someone disagrees, not someone putting words in my mouth, it's that simple

                [...]
                you're both so fucking obviously not from here. you know people used to make jokes about fucking deer on this very board right?

                just fucking leave. nobody likes you.

                >back to saying nothing with so many words
                I will leave when I feel like it, you are welcome to seethe more

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >so why derail like this? because you can't engage what I wrote directly

                I wonder, what sort of a defect it is that has an average mutt instantly go
                >MUH VATNIG
                there's tens of millions of men in Europe still not completely on board the 'globohomo', and when they see the 'progress' your culture has made in the last decade, they are disgusted, and they will remind you of that once in a while
                chuds are a potent symbol of those changes, so they get a lot of airtime

                >here's tens of millions of men in Europe still not completely on board the 'globohomo', and when they see the 'progress' your culture has made in the last decade, they are disgusted, and they will remind you of that once in a while
                Never cared about the opinion of brown "people" in Europe before, ain't gonna start now.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >pic
              insanely jelly

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Even inanimate machinery hates communism

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Now I'm not religious in the slightest.
        But that sure does look like some higher being kneading the cosmic clay of pure comedy, stuffing it into the oven of probability and making the absolute highest-quality pottery.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        For anyone who was wondering what Saddam Hussein's last moments looked like, this is the picrel you should study. They fucked up the drop height vs. rope length and popped his head off, exactly like this statue. It's why Iraq didn't broadcast the hanging, just issued some still photos. Fun fact is that there had to have been a dozen or so running at the time. The video exists. Somewhere.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      why commie ziggers are mad about Bakhmut but fine with using Soledar instead of Karlo-Libknekhtovsk?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >IT'S MAAM

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It’s called Bakhmut

      FTFY. Deal with it, zigger.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Hasn’t been called Artemovsk for almost a decade, retards.

      Try hundreds of years.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      soon to be known as "where The Russian Federation ended."

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        they raised 300,000 men and their biggest success is a town of 10,000 (4/5 captured too). if i were a paid russian shill, i would quietly doff my hat and look for a way out to the west, hoping my name is not on some list

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >they raised 300,000 men and their biggest success is a town of 10,000 (4/5 captured too). if i were a paid russian shill, i would quietly doff my hat and look for a way out to the west, hoping my name is not on some list
          lol and took said town with ~40k quadrouple felon murderers, while the 'regular Russian army" watched on drone monitors

          now matter what turn you shills take,
          390k the ukrainians have lost their life to LOSE a war of racist ethnic agression they started in 2014 against Russian civilians in the donbass

          you went dressed in nazi regalia to push ethnic Russians out of your country, and lost
          you lost
          the ukraine lost

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      “It’s Ma’am!”-posting but with a city name
      You are the chud here

      Ironically they're doing the same shit they tried memeing on the ukies for.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        I've been doing that since day 1. That's why they split from /uhg on pol

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/azgse2d.jpg

          [...]
          Ironically they're doing the same shit they tried memeing on the ukies for.

          >Ironically they're doing the same shit they tried memeing on the ukies for.

          if you beat a guys ass in public and tell the crowd his name is sally, guess what?
          >his name is "sally"

          the ukraine talked shit, got jacked in the face, and now Russia gets to call its territory whatever it wants, lol

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            They need to take and hold it first. When the Ukrainians take Kreminna it'll undermine Russian logistics to the point where they won't be able to supply their forces taking Bakhmut easily and will have to pull people away

  3. 5 days ago
    Z

    >"Ivan Ivanovitch, I need artillery shells, of all sizes, fuel air bombs, Iskanders, send all of it at Artemovsk city center now!

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      and how are you going to get these items to that place?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I like to stay ahead of the times

      Nice to see a fellow zizter, what are your preferred pronouns?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      holy based. z , christ is with us.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why would Christ be with people that don't follow his teachings?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          All evidence from this war points to God despising r*ssians.

  4. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I hate to sound like an armchair general but this seems like a fucking awful idea

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Even if the city is lost, it will boost morale to show how difficult it was for the city to be taken by the vatniks. Morale wins wars.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ehhh this only worked for Mariupol because the defenders assumed they would be executed upon surrender. Fortress cities were stupid in ww2 and they are stupid now. Russia will gladly kill 50k convicts to capture 5k Ukies

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          They ain't got infinite convicts. And they're going to find it hard to find new ones with how many have died.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >They ain't got infinite convicts. And they're going to find it hard to find new ones with how many have died.
            AHAHHAHAHHAHAH Russia has ~50k Wagner-felons dog-walking the ukraine, out of a pre-war prison population of 440k

            Russia can go on de-populating and demographically raping the ukraine for as long as the dipshit hohols want

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              I dunno, they are short on resources other than bodies. Human wave attacks don't work that well in 2023

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          They were stupid on the Eastern Front because the soviets could easier bypass them. The Russians in 2023 can't. Also they were effective on the Western Front.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Its not a fortress city. Its part of a line. A very well prepared line. If they pull back they fall onto a weaker defensive line. Not only that but they will now be defending strategic ground.

          Rather fight in a better position over something not essential than a weaker position over something essential.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            In that case my question is what do the Ukrainians intend on doing to further defend the city? Is their strategy to just try and bleed out the Russians in urban combat, or are they preparing counteroffensives elsewhere to try to take the pressure off?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Its pretty obvious that both sides are planning big offensives when the ground gets better. Idk why the Russians are grinding around Soledar and Bakhmut but for the Ukranians, letting the Russians wear themselves out on a strong defensive line while you prep for a counter attack makes sense.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            I know this. But when the lines flank collapses your supposed to withdraw to the stronger Slavyansk Kramatorsk one, not consolidate inside of the city and just wait to get encircled. This WILL happen and even if Russians take 10:1 losses taking the city it wont be worth it

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              has the flank collapsed?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              On the other hand, do we know that they're consolidating inside of the city with the intention of defending it to the last man or is it just the usual propaganda that constantly exaggerates the situation?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I thought cats had god tier reflexes

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            That looks like a Siamese cat, and as pretty as they are, they are notorious smoothbrained retards because of inbreeding.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >if we lose city we win
        how many layers of PrepHoleope are you on right now?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't you tired of recycling arguments from last spring?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Mariupol was a nice victory

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          no kher?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You’re absolutely right. Ukraine is strained in the city now, but just imagine how fierce the counter attack to retake the city will be. Those vatnig russian orcs won’t stand a chance.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >have one chance at life
        >forced to fight to the death for a random city so that people on /r/worldnews feel good for 30 seconds

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >have one chance at life
          >forced to fight to the death for a random city so that people on /chug/ feel better for 30 seconds

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            but in that case the city will actually be taken

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              And? How does that benefit the random vatnik who died trying to take someone else's land. At least the Ukrainians died defending their homeland.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                He won't be raped anymore

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Lot of kraut and japs had high morale as well. Lots of kraut and jap women ended up sucking American GI cock. The ukie bitches better lube up their asses and keep their kneepads on.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/geS9Fr2.jpg

      Oh my god this is deeply problematic, didn't you know trillions of v*tnicks are dying for every ukranian soul and this is all part of the plan? Stop spreading rumors milblogger, lives are at stake if NATO finally gets sick of these clowns and stops sending them al of their advanced weapons systems in return for fuckall

      What's the point of holding this strategically irrelevant city and losing hundreds in urban fights and after artillery strikes? Russia may be losing 2x or even 3x more troops there, but these are mostly Wagner prisoners or mobiks, while Ukraine loses its best troops here. Just leave Bakhmut and prepare next defensive lines, and keep training troops for offensive in the south.
      Seems like Ukrainian AF are making huge mistakes now, maybe it's not as bad as RuAF did in the first days of war, but nevertheless they have already lost thousands of their best soldiers in Soledar and Bakhmut, who could have taken part in fighting near Kreminna.

      https://i.imgur.com/lx90OYU.jpg

      >The entire west has to give us all their tanks, their artillery, and a couple more billion
      >We're not going to give you anything tho
      >WHY AREN'T YOU SENDING US MORE AID???? BIDEEENNN WHY AREN'T THEY SENDING IT FAST ENOUGH?

      >Seems like Ukrainian AF are making huge mistakes now,
      Both they and the Zogmericans are telling Zelensky to retreat but he is choosing not too because he is a former actor and is too concerned with PR. They will get encircled and Kiev and NATO will end up with a big egg on their face.

      I'm a PrepHole oldfag that has slowly come to the realization that I've been duped by propaganda, it all started when I began to go on wikipedia and look at the early life section of many of the influential figures in American media and politics who were the strongest advocates for supporting Ukraine and for engaging in a conflict with Russia

      Imagine supporting the mongol invasion of Europe.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        imagine being paid to distort the truth and hype up fantasies made up by psyops people all day and yet literally nobody you talk with believes a word you say anymore

        You'd basically be below pajeet telemarketers on the totem pole, lol

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Why does every insult rusoids can come up with is always projection?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's true though, if you had any self-reflection, you'd see nobody believes okrainian stories anymore.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              russia returned to port under its own power

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Again with the lying. Russia never claimed Moskva returned to port under its' own power. This is just another false narrative created by okrainian shills, and is a good case in point why nobody believes you anymore.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                moskva retains buoyancy

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Berlin in 3 days

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            no shame, perhaps even a negative quotient

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Take you meds moron and touch some sun

        • 5 days ago
          sage

          >EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS PAID. I WILL NOT THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS SAYS ABOUT MY SELF ESTEEM.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          based
          death to glowmorons, all their words are poison

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >imagine being paid to distort the truth and hype up fantasies made up by psyops people all day and yet literally nobody you talk with believes a word you say anymore
          You don't have to imagine it. That's your life.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        The only Ukrainian I know is Nikacado Avocado and he looks NOTHING like the dude on the left

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          He's an ethnic russian 🙂

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Would you please keep the Mongols out of this? Unlike a certain idiot in the kremlin the Khan usually had an idea of what he was doing. It also mostly WORKED.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Would you please keep the Mongols out of this?
          I would if the mongols could manage to keep out of ukie roasties for more than five seconds

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >guy in the middle
            >aaaay lmao
            >trust me comrades im human and a buryat from planet earth, how many more cycles till we eat sustenance ?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            This might be new to you, but there's plenty of asian ethnicities that are not Mongols (and in fact, most of them were and likely continue to be unsanitary savages compared to the Mongols.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        White race defenders

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >it’s an awful idea do defend a city you’re enemy is willing to expend its entire fresh manpower base on

      Okay retard. Ukies fought tooth and nail for severaldonuts and were able to successfully deplete the Russian’s manpower so much so that they were able to conduct two successful counter offensives and forced Russia to do a very unpopular, underwhelming mobilization. Ukies have their a sizable force in reserve ready to strike when the Russians are at their weakest.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >ukies always deplete orc ranks before a major counteroffensive

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Severodonetsk resulted in thousands of ukie kia and captured, it was in absolutely no way a Ukrainian victory/feint or whatever your trying to say. The Russian advance halted after the arrival of HIMARS, not because of losses. The counteroffensives came like 5 months later and was a result of the entire wars losses and Russias inability to get new contract soldiers. Severodonetsk and Lysychansk were disasters for the zsu and prove (once again) how idiotic fortress cities are

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          > The counteroffensives came like 5 months later
          Are you retarded? Severaldonuts was captured on June 25th and Lynchingchangs was captured in early July. Kharkiv counteroffensive started In early September, Kherson started late August. In what universe is late August/ early September 5 months away from the end of June/beginning of July?

          If severaldonuts was really as bad as you claim it was for Ukraine then they couldn’t have achieved their success afterwards. The vatmorons literally blew their wad on severaldonuts. Also HIMARs were delivered in mid-June, so severaldonuts and lynchingchangs were captured after HIMARs arrived in country.

  5. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Fresh image
    its month+ old

  6. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If Mariupol held out for 5 months at a fraction of supplies and support, how long would Bakhmut hold? I'd say a whole year at least

  7. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's all in vain when Artimovsk gets surrounded and the retards never get to use their trenches because they will have to surrender.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainians will beg that we airlift them supplies. We will comply, WW3 begins. I'll see you on the battlefield my brother.

  8. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oh my god this is deeply problematic, didn't you know trillions of v*tnicks are dying for every ukranian soul and this is all part of the plan? Stop spreading rumors milblogger, lives are at stake if NATO finally gets sick of these clowns and stops sending them al of their advanced weapons systems in return for fuckall

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Your tears will be delicious in the coming weeks.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >The entire west has to give us all their tanks, their artillery, and a couple more billion
        >We're not going to give you anything tho
        >WHY AREN'T YOU SENDING US MORE AID???? BIDEEENNN WHY AREN'T THEY SENDING IT FAST ENOUGH?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          you dont understand at this point.
          as long as ukro kill russian shit 3rd worlders, were fine with giving.
          its what we wanted to do all the time anyhow but without us needing to put boots on the ground and risking our lives, which are ofc indifinately more worth than a russian´s

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            drafting papers are being handed to your highschool students in streets, it's literally over for you if you just went to buy bread and milk and be caught by xoxol military police. idk wtf kind of copium propaganda you are reading fren and what kind of "killing Russians" you are talking about.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's a paid shill, dumbass.
            They don't "understand" they just don't care because it's their job to shit up everything.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              They're not paid. They do it for free. They enjoy t he butthurt and the (You)'s. Generally they are 14yo's with nothing better to do. Sure, there's some paid "shills" around, but that's a very small portion of the stupidity. Honestly you guys just need to stop responding to such obvious bait and shitting up this board even more.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >generally they are 14yo's
                it's worse than that anon, these are actually mostly adults, that's what makes it ultra sad

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          My brother in christ if Russia was true to their claims they would be drinking champagne in France right now instead of getting bogged in one of their ex puppet states.
          >muh infinite western supplies
          They said they would take on the entire West too, did you forget that? What, now they can't do that anymore?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >my brother in christ
            we don’t say that on this website. go back to r*ddit please

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Which one?

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >generic non-neocon right
            >5th columnist

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              It's all a psyop within a psyop

              leftists think we don't notice but this kind of shit is only effective amongst themselves

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            This doesn't have leftist undertones at all.
            You just need to add how Gabbard, Ron and Rand Paul are Russian agents. Tucker calling out both side doesn't make him a Russia asset either.
            Also chudface is a leftypol meme they still desperately try to force.

            This just reeks of the same people whom unironically push dark Brandon is based on PrepHole

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              see, issue is, you disagreed, so you're a "vitnig", so you're wrong, and coping too

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                This but unironically. Being Contrarian to something good makes you wrong and retarded.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Gabbard, Ron and Rand Paul are Russian agents.
              They effectively are. Weakening US influence threatens global trade.
              >Tucker calling out both side
              Lol
              Lmao even.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              The Pauls are opportunists and cynical.
              Tulsi IS an agent, I mean there is no doubt.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >We're not going to give you anything tho
          dead Russians is payment enough.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >The entire west has to give us all their tanks
          Ummmm sweaty... you haven't heard?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >muh money laundering

          You retards STILL don't even fucking understand what money laundering is.

          Also, the Ukrainians are paying us in the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead vatmorons. It's a pretty fucking good deal for everyone involved, except you vatnik subhumans.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        How many weeks are you thinking? Two?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Destroying the sole reason nato was created
      >Fuck all
      Lmao you vatnik retards propably believe earth is simultaneously every shape but a sphere if RT tweeter that earth is not round

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >take meme
      >lazily plaster some nonsense over it
      It's like they're trying to troll people with how inept they are.

  9. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of holding this strategically irrelevant city and losing hundreds in urban fights and after artillery strikes? Russia may be losing 2x or even 3x more troops there, but these are mostly Wagner prisoners or mobiks, while Ukraine loses its best troops here. Just leave Bakhmut and prepare next defensive lines, and keep training troops for offensive in the south.
    Seems like Ukrainian AF are making huge mistakes now, maybe it's not as bad as RuAF did in the first days of war, but nevertheless they have already lost thousands of their best soldiers in Soledar and Bakhmut, who could have taken part in fighting near Kreminna.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Seems like Ukrainian AF are making huge mistakes now,
      Both they and the Zogmericans are telling Zelensky to retreat but he is choosing not too because he is a former actor and is too concerned with PR. They will get encircled and Kiev and NATO will end up with a big egg on their face.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Zelensky does not command AFU, Zaluzhny does. Maybe he knows something that we don't know, but from my chair it looks like holding Bakhmut is a stupid decision.
        NATO should send more than 100 IFVs and 14 tanks if it is truly interested in the Ukrainian victory and the long-term weakening of Russia.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          You are missing the point a bit here. That’s exactly how much they can afford to send right now. I’m not fucking with you or trying to shill for the Russians by saying that western militaries are at an all time low point in terms of equipment and personnel readiness. The issue is that political pressures internally within most of these countries have undermined the meritocracy needed to have a functioning military, which has led to widespread bureaucratic bloat and massive retention issues. This results in the personnel being tasked being less competent, and the money not going as far as it used to. Repeat this cycle for a decade or so, and you end up with large portions of the logistical chain being basically vestigial, and even larger portions of the equipment required for direct action reaching critical-low readiness levels. Sending tanks or AFVs to this conflict is an extremely costly endeavour, not just in terms of materiel, but also in terms of the resources that need to be diverted. To perform pre-checks, training, and transportation, resources that every NATO country was already short on.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Also, none of the western NATO countries have a merchant navy anymore.

            Tanks and ammo are a bit heavy to airlift.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Also, none of the western NATO countries have a merchant navy anymore.

              You're an absolute idiot. There's more than 200 million gross tonnage registered under European flags alone, a lot more if you count the tonnage that sails under flags of convenience, but is under European ownership and management.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                What makes you think that Flags of Convenience crews are going to actually SAIL those ships into contested waters?

                During Desert Storm, there were 17 Flags of Convenience ships that flatly refused to enter the Persian Gulf…against Iraqi Naval Power.

                200 million tons GRT doesn’t mean dick, you fucktard.

                What KIND of ships are what matters…and what flag they fly.

                You think you’re going to transport tanks on a Liberian tanker with a Filipino rare and Indian officers?

                Think again.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                There's no need to sail into contested waters, there plenty of good ports in Northwestern Europe, and plenty of Car Carriers and Boxships under allied flag.

                You made a dumb and ill informed comment regarding NATO Merchant Navy capabilities, man up.

                t. Merchant Navy fag who personally knows Officers who sailed into The Gulf during Desert Storm.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Zelensky does not command AFU, Zaluzhny does
          On paper....

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >the long-term weakening of Russia
          lol, lmao
          the ENTIRE war is a symptom of that decline, neither victory nor defeat would change that rofl

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      There is a railway that passes through Bakhmut you stupid cunt. It’s the supply bloodline to support Russian FOB’s granted they break through.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      If not there then where?

      I mean it'd be even worse if they were fighting them off somewhere it would be actually bad if they broke through

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >What's the point of holding this strategically irrelevant city and losing hundreds in urban fights and after artillery strikes?
      What's the point of taking it?

      What's the point of this goddamn war?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why ask these questions? I don't care why Russians started this war. We only need to find a way to make them lose.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >2-3x troops
      Anon, it's a city, they have artillery cover, AND they're fighting literally prisoner conscripts with no experience.
      What part of 10x casualties when attacking cities do you not understand.

      Bahkmut will fall once all the buildings are rubble and the town is effectively worthless for pulling out more casualties and Ukraine no longer values it as a valuable asset to hold. Falling back is less about "we have lost too many men" and far more "we haven't enough cover left to be worth holding".

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        it's pointless to argue with these retards anon, he's already decided that prisoners being forced to do human wave attacks is ok and not a loophole to execute tens of thousands of prisoners in direct violation of russian law

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's Russia tradition to murder its own civilians nothing has changed.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Let me break it down for you
      The one credible image we've seen of the forces next Bakhmut shows the Russians fielding a corps sized unit of Wagnerites (30,000 to 90,000 men) plus at least one division sized element (~10,000 men) of Russian regulars against a collection of a dozen or so Ukrainian units, none of which are above regiment size (500 to 2000 men). This means the following:
      >Russian forces in the Bahmut area massively outnumber Ukrainian forces
      >Russian forces are forbidden from retreating once they attack under pain of death
      >Russian forces have been continuously attacking Bahkmut for seven months
      >Russian forces have not captured Bakhmut
      I will let you draw your own conclusions.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao at this chud nafo teir cope, there was more than that just in soldar.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          The VDV were at soledar, along with all the other russian forces i mentioned (since it is within spitting distance of Bakhmut) and the russians couldn't take that town either.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine puts its best troops in Bakhmut and not assaulting Kreminna and Svatove with success (92nd for example)
      >or training to get the new shiny Western arms

      The moment Russia realizes oh shit the Ukrainians are just doing an holding action until their new leopards, bradleys arrive while they try to raise another 500,000 to do meat wave attacks and another 1000000 flee the country

  10. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukrainian Forces Retreat
    seems to be the only thing left the afu can achieve.

    lol the ukraine has completely and impotently petered out into a fucking rag-tag mess of regroooopers and retreeeeeaters

    lol imagine fucking up the 'offensive' to push out the 'invader' and take your country back.
    lol its like the ukraine got "the bad-ending" because they fucking sucked at the game, and made the wrong choices (like ally itself with USA path)

    its going be a 2nd Christmas the day hohol gays sign their unilateral surrender and unconditional de-militarization and balkanization

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The idea these fags are going on the offensive is literally insane. This is the bulk of their army and they are in retreat. The PrepHoleopes are getting crazier as time goes on too

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >This is the bulk of their army
        can you tell us how many soldiers it is?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Russia hasn't force Ukraine to commit their reserves to defending Bakhmut yet. It's funny how Vatniks are physically incapable of learning from their mistakes, it's probably all the fetal alcohol syndrome.

        Remember this time last spring where Ukraine was retreating slowly but steadily and employing defense in depth? Remember how the fact that Russia was unable to make any large breakthroughs meant they went through a massive amount of ammo, manpower and material doing this? Remember how it left them weak in the north for a Ukrainian armored assault?

        Of course you don't because you were told this was all "part of the plan". Vatmorons will never learn because they can't even admit they've made mistakes.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        what are the funny little symbols over the units?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        These are the same number of units that have been there since last February. The same number that were there while the Ukrianians overran Kupiansk and Izyum and Kherson.

        >muh bulk of their army
        You're retarded.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Vatniks are already recycling their cope from last spring

      Summer's gonna be great lads.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      i see the nonce's ban lapsed

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >i see the nonce's ban lapsed
        agent-nonce-sayer!

        its been a while bro,
        agent-racist had to pick up a lot of your slack while you were off work or whatever

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraines job is to use Western weapons to destroy the invaders military. Territory really doesn't matter, while the invader army is being wrecked, Western economic measures ruin the invaders economy.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine will get the 'bad ending', though
        Between the casualties, emigration and economic damage, Ukraine is doomed, a sacrifice mutt masters are happy to make

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Two more Puccian offensives tobarish

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            not an argument

            Go back

            not an argument

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              There was never an argument, you're a shill that calls other people shills to shill simple as.
              Now stop posting Dennis it's time for bed.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous
        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Go back

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Still better than being ruled by Russians

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            debatable
            but more importantly, certainly worse than no war at all, which was a possibility, and which mutt glowies worked against

            There was never an argument, you're a shill that calls other people shills to shill simple as.
            Now stop posting Dennis it's time for bed.

            still free of content, keep trying I guess

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          heh. like Germany, Japan. South Korea, Taiwan? This moron fit putin threw just pushed even more of the World into our spere of influence. Danke.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >these countries did well so Ukraine will do well
            that's a bold assertion, you'll need to do a bit more work than that
            one obvious issue is that 1940s and thereabouts was a different time, demographically

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >1940s and thereabouts was a different time, demographically
              Yeah the west was a lot poorer and the global economy much smaller back then, so it was much harder to rebuild a countries economy at that time than it is now

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                it was still a time of demographic boom, which is a huge tailwind for a ruined country
                >west was a lot poorer and the global economy much smaller back then, so it was much harder to rebuild a countries economy
                you can just as well say that since baseline was lower, it was easier to get back to it
                besides, these countries, if you can even talk about them all at once, primarily rebuilt themselves - it was not some benevolent external effort
                I don't expect Ukraine getting much help after the war, it will be swept under the rug, drained of all the best people

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Look up the Marshall plan

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, just mentioning it is not enough, question is, was it actually beneficial to recipients, was is a significant factor etc.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >12 billion 1950s dollars of aid
                >"just mentioning it is not enough!"

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                no, I think it's not

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                well nobody cares what you think because you're clearly fucking retarded anon.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                how much was 13 billion in relation to the GDP of recipient countries? that's the most obvious first question
                you just namedrop a well known aid program, see large number, behave as if it is proven USA made Europe after the war, and sperg when challenged

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                no, you clearly didn't study this in school. you don't know what you're talking about and are engaging in meaningless contrarianism. nobody is engaging with you because you're fundamentally uninformed and nobody wants to give you a detailed overview (you won't accept the quick one as we've already seen) of post ww2 european reconstruction.

                it's also funny that you conveniently ignore japan.

                you're just trying to make some shit up about how apparently ukraine is full of old people, has lost its women, etc and therefore we should all just abandon it. pushed far enough you'll probably start making jokes about the rape of ukrainian women or some disgusting shit.

                you're full of shit and everyone can see it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody wants to give you a detailed overview
                we either trade assertions or discuss, and when discussing, your assertions will be questioned, I doubt this is a surprise to you, so what's the issue exactly
                >it's also funny that you conveniently ignore japan.
                I don't, we barely traded a few sentences, sorry I did not go into detail where apparently you think I should have, I guess it was on you to begin there
                >you're just trying to make some shit up about how apparently ukraine is full of old people [...]
                I have an opinion of what the trajectory of Ukraine will be after the war, yes
                >we should all just abandon it
                What I actually said earlier was, I wish US glowmoron did not meddle in Europe, trying to create a proxy war they like, beyond that, you have no way to know since I did not say anything

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >he's still trying to argue even though someone has pointed out he's arguing in bad faith
                at some point you're going to realize why nobody else is responding to you. probably in 5-6 years when you turn 18.

                btw for your future baiting using glowmoron or proxy war in reference to ukraine post february 2022 is so fucking obvious only the newest 4chan user would fall for it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                The US didn't start this war, Russia did
                Its not a proxy war, its an actual war being fought between Russia ad Ukraine
                Its an actual war being fought between Russia and Ukraine that Russia is losing, because Russia is weaker than Ukraine

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >if you can even talk about them all at once, primarily rebuilt themselves - it was not some benevolent external effort

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't expect Ukraine getting much help after the war, it will be swept under the rug, drained of all the best people

                ahaha. sure champ. global capital is just going to not want to make hundreds of billions off Ukraine. The DoD isnt salivating at the thought of arming Ukraine to the fucking teeth with US weaponry. You know the US, russias number one global adversary and the number one weapons exporter of the entire fucking planet.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >things are different

              Yes, they are. Capital is digitized, you can move it around the world in an instant. The global economy allows for the rapid and reliable movement of physical capital like humans and raw materials. We won't have to occupy Ukraine and will start off with excellent relations. Ukraine has alot of hydrocarbons. every one that matters will blame russia. Its a pretty sweet set up. If the illuminated ones orchestrated this I kneel

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >pretty sweet set up
                If you're a prime mutt, looking to secure hegemony, or a garden gnome looking to make money, sure
                if you're an Ukrainian, it's all rather grim

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                A lot less grim than becoming a Russian satellite state, every single one they've ever had has been a dystopian shithole

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                and half the mutt satellites are getting overrun with morons in their ethnic homelands
                see, I can make sweeping statements too

                >he's still trying to argue even though someone has pointed out he's arguing in bad faith
                at some point you're going to realize why nobody else is responding to you. probably in 5-6 years when you turn 18.

                btw for your future baiting using glowmoron or proxy war in reference to ukraine post february 2022 is so fucking obvious only the newest 4chan user would fall for it.

                >using glowmoron or proxy war
                what's wrong with these? glowmorons suddenly not real? proxy wars not real?
                >nobody else is responding to you
                I don't know, there's plenty, and that one coward even started on a decent discussion before sperging when challenged

                The US didn't start this war, Russia did
                Its not a proxy war, its an actual war being fought between Russia ad Ukraine
                Its an actual war being fought between Russia and Ukraine that Russia is losing, because Russia is weaker than Ukraine

                >The US didn't start this war, Russia did
                And I wrote, laid foundations, not started
                it obviously is a proxy war

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                go back. the board as a whole gracefully allows retards like you to post about non-weapons-related things, it doesn't want you to post this retarded 4chan shit.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                this board gracefully allows thread after thread on current events and politics
                change that and you will have your precious weapon only board

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >posted by anon 30 seconds before he got a 3 month ban

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                my IP resets every day, I can't help it

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Get laid, loser.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Plenty of American satellites have very few morons, but there hasn't ever been a non shithole Russian satellite.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Plenty of American satellites have very few morons
                that's why I said half, and it's despite the US influence, not because of it
                >there hasn't ever been a non shithole Russian satellite
                maybe, they do seem better then mutts at making their satellites worse off over time

                >what's wrong with these?
                You're a tiresome liar who tells stupid lies that a child could see through.

                totally, that's why instead of pointing them out and making me look foolish, you instead just go
                >ur stupid

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >what's wrong with these?
                You're a tiresome liar who tells stupid lies that a child could see through.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                How so, exactly?
                >Free of Russian corruption
                >Free of Russian oppression
                >Investment flows in
                >With it, jobs
                >With those jobs, money is in circulation allowing people to make more purchases
                >More money in circulation = more jobs
                It's looking pretty good.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >buzzward
                >buzzward
                >if you're an Ukrainian, it's all rather grim

                Grim? Hey bub, look what happened to other former russian occupied states that joined the West. Way better off now. Ukraine also has much more to offer than those other countries. Nobody wants anything to do with russia, besides other failed states.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine will get the 'bad ending', though
          couldnt have said it better myself

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukraines job is to use Western weapons to destroy the invaders military. Territory really doesn't matter, while the invader army is being wrecked,
        instead, 390k ukrianan college students and pipefitters got blasted into watermelon, while Russia fought with Felony-rapists and gang-murderers, losing fucking NOTHING per death, who were armed with soviet era junk

        Russia cleared dissidents, and validated 30 year old junk, to erase 80 years of western hegemony in 11 months
        what the ABSOLUTE FUCK was the USA thinking invading Russia?
        literally what in the name of God were they thinking?
        why?
        fucking why?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >while Russia fought with Felony-rapists and gang-murderers, losing fucking NOTHING per death, who were armed with soviet era junk
          Hey what happened to the 1st Guards Tank Army again

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Hey what happened to the 1st Guards Tank Army again
            went home i heard

            meanwhile some 26yo ukrainian retail worker got blasted into fettucini-alfredo after 107hrs laying in a ditch eating cold crackers and piss water dodging drones at 3am

  11. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Alright what have the ziggers fucked up today that merits this level of shilling these past 24 hours?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a PrepHole oldfag that has slowly come to the realization that I've been duped by propaganda, it all started when I began to go on wikipedia and look at the early life section of many of the influential figures in American media and politics who were the strongest advocates for supporting Ukraine and for engaging in a conflict with Russia

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm a PrepHole oldfag
        t. 4chan newfag

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Not everyone is a retarded 4chancel who suddenly started paying attention to Ukraine only a year ago when it became the current thing. Some of us have been following events there for nearly 20 years so can easily see through your gay shilling.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >don't worry guys I am le old fag *~~)
        you're a fag

        >Most of it isn't even money, it's the price value of the old equipment being sent, the only money the US is spending is the money propping up Ukraine's economy and buying old soviet stock at discount prices from other eastern europe nations
        its absolutely money, so much money it basically caused the American cost of living to 3x in a single year.

        all to LOSE to multiple-felons using soviet trash.

        WHY THE FUCK did the US attempt to invade Russia?
        why?

        LEDDIT

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You are not alone bro.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Since most of the Bot Farms are ran by Prighozin, maybe he's just having a bitchfit as the Russian MoD and Vladdy boy have thrown him under the bus?
      They've been talking a lot of smack about him and Wagner over the last few days.

  12. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Some folks are born made to wave the flag
    Ooh, they're white, red and blue
    And when the band plays "Hail to the Chimp"
    Ooh, they point the rusty AKM at you, Lord

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no oligarchs's son, son
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no unsore anus, no

    Some folks are born in leningrad oblast
    Lord, don't they help themselves, no
    But when the police come' to the door
    Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah

    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no oligarch's son, no no
    It ain't me, it ain't me
    I ain't no unsore anus, no

    Yeah, some folks inherit red star-spangled eyes
    Ooh, they send you down to SVO, Lord
    And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
    Ooh, they only answer, "More, more, more, more human waaaaaves!"

  13. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >bout 20 brigades
    so 60k men? So you are saying Ukraine has some 600k soldiers somewhere else?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      post your estimate for size of afu and specifically what proportion of their forces are defending the circled region. Last time it was >3 brigades lol

  14. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Ukies want the at Ike’s to commit even more meat into Bakhmut grinder.
    Will the new Vatnik brass comply with that?

    Then what happens elsewhere?

    Does Belarus jump in and stick its genitals into the sausage maker too?

    Do the Ukies push on from Kherson? East or South to mog Crimea?

    Fuck…if I was Ukie commander, I’d push north from Kharkiv towards Belgorod and zkursk and take actual Russian clay. Pussolini wants to declare Luganda and Donbabwe to be Russian?
    Fine, bro…we gonna fight this on Russian soil then!

    See how it works out when it’s YOUR cities and towns getting collateral damaged.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The moment a larger ua group enters Russia propper... le nuked
      Best part Is that would be legal kek

  15. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If it's strategically useless, why are the Russians wasting so many guys to take it? Are they retarded?

    Why is there footage out there of hundreds of Wagner casualties, but no footage of mass Ukrainian casualties?

  16. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Fuck off, you garden gnome gay.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      accuse your enemy of what you are doing. Blackrock is gonna own ukraine lmao and Zelensky is part of the tribe

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Putin is part of the tribe too. By blood. So?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        This turbomoron really forgetting Izium, Several Donuts and Kekson.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        The strategically impactful gains all happened in the first month or two.
        Kherson for example was huge. Crossing the Dnipro and capturing a huge city at the same time, getting a nice bridgehead for future gains towards Odessa (lol). Now, we all know how that went, but I think that if you asked back when it happened, most people would have agreed that it was a pretty big deal.
        So it's not that all the gains that the russians do are seen as irrelevant, it's that they've been reduced to mostly irrelevant gains. Lysychansk and Sievierodonetsk have resulted in fuck all, for example. I still remember discussing it here before they fell. It was mostly a propaganda victory that wasn't going to lead to anything beyond the russians having another bombed-out administrative building to put a flag on. Many months later, and it's still true. Nothing came out of that axis.
        One wonders whether all those donbabweans thrown into sniper fire to force the ukies into revealing their positions were an acceptable price to pay for that victory.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I guess the main question is whether we'll see any successful large-scale offensives from either side, or if they're both so worn down fighting each other that it's just a waiting game to see who falls over first.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Its pretty obvious that both sides have big plans for the spring. Ukrainians asking for and receiving all those IFV's and AFV's wasn't for nothing. Russians stacking all those warm bodies in Belorussia at a time that it needs warm bodies is also not for nothing.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              My main concern is whether any of them (on either side) will be successful or if they'll end up being badly-managed or simply bogged down against defenses that they weren't anticipating or were simply impossible to deal with given the equipment on hand. I can see a Belarus thrust failing out of sheer incompetence, while a Ukrainian counteroffensive somewhere in the East might just get bogged down and shift the frontline in an irrelevant way overall.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Ukranians have made big gains every time they have done something. So until proven otherwise I believe whatever they will do will work.

                I don't think Melitopol is a good choice for attack at all. I don't know why people think the Ukrainians are going to attack there

                Because if your offensive ends along the Russian border you still have to leave troops there afterwards. If your offensive ends along an ocean, you dont need to leave troops behind. Ukraines problem is that they have to defend their entire frontier with Russia and Belorussia, while Russia can focus its entire army on the frontline in Ukraine.

                I also have wild ideas about seizing the Russian munitions depots in Transnistria. Fair play, imo, not Russian territory and supposedly there are vast quantities of munitions and vehicles stored there.
                >what can I say, I am a dreamer

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >. If your offensive ends along an ocean

                While being surrounded on 2 sides by Russians and the Ocean in front. It's stupid and the Russians could just attack the sides/base of the drive and trap them

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            I think that their will be a lot of movement once the Ukrainians get Kreminna back in their hands. If the Russians lose it then their entire logistics for Lughansk will be fucked

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Well thats the big debate innit? Kreminna or Melitopol. Imo something in the south is more useful.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think Melitopol is a good choice for attack at all. I don't know why people think the Ukrainians are going to attack there

  17. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Пoдoжди, ты нeпpaвильнo вcё пoнял! Я жe пoддepживaю вac! Я caм pyccкий из гopoдa Химки (этo pядoм c Mocквoй) и я дaвнo лypкaл нa этoм caйтe. Bceгдa paдoвaли пocты o pyccкoм cнapяжeниe и opyжии, и, кaк мoжнo пoнять, пocлeдниe 11 мecяцeв oчeнь тяжeлo дaвaлиcь. Пocтoянный пoтoк pycoфoбии yжe дocтaл и я paд нaкoнeц видeть гoлoc paзyмa cpeди тaких людeй кaк ты!

  18. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    The fact the West is throwing support hand over fist means Ukraine is at a bad spot.
    One thing is for certain that all this new tech will play a major role in stabilizing them.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the west doesn't give much to Ukraine because they know it's going to lose anyway
      >the west gives shit to Ukraine because it knows that it's about to lose
      Schizophrenic shit from vatmorons is getting tiring.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        I guess 100B+ is nothing when you can print to infinity

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          100B+ is nothing when literally all of it is shit that has been sitting in storages for 30 years.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          i know 100 billion is a lot to a country with an economy of 1.4 trillion, but "the wests" economy is like 50 trillion

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Most of it isn't even money, it's the price value of the old equipment being sent, the only money the US is spending is the money propping up Ukraine's economy and buying old soviet stock at discount prices from other eastern europe nations

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >buying old soviet stock at discount prices from other eastern europe nations
            That moron Austin has been going all over Europe for the last year.
            I guess its not cutting it anymore so they are sending the new toys.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              UK has bought hundreds of shit too. Seem to be the only who cares
              >b-b-but our EU contributions!

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            they've been receiving straight up cash to keep the government alive (paying wages, etc)

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Most of it isn't even money, it's the price value of the old equipment being sent, the only money the US is spending is the money propping up Ukraine's economy and buying old soviet stock at discount prices from other eastern europe nations
            its absolutely money, so much money it basically caused the American cost of living to 3x in a single year.

            all to LOSE to multiple-felons using soviet trash.

            WHY THE FUCK did the US attempt to invade Russia?
            why?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              That's just factually not true. It's a combined result of kicking the can down the road from the 2008 financial crisis and during early covid giving out 2 trillion in bailout money to the stock market back on March of 2020. Printing that money to bailout the stock market of all things has lead us to the current inflation. Funny how everyone memory holed the stock market bailout and blames Ukraine etc

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              moron. Wagner uses the top equipment the Russians have.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                There are two distinct parts of Wagner, dipshit, the ex-Spetsnaz "spine" and the convict "meat".

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              Hello this is popular Black rapper “poo shiesty” from big apple oblast. Morale is lowest ever, breadlines are several kilometers long.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >cost of living to 3x in a single year.
              Would you retards EVER miss a chance to project?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >basically caused the American cost of living to 3x in a single year.
              moron where the fuck do you live that the cost of living went up by three times? Do you eat nothing but eggs?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >moron where the fuck do you live that the cost of living went up by three times? Do you eat nothing but eggs?
                I have more than one mouth to feed you nafo dipshit
                food is 3x what it used to be, and that multiplier if you have more than a single mouth to feed

                im old enough to remember steven colbert telling me he'd be willing to pay $10, $12, $15 a gallon for gas to suffer for ukraine if he had to

                the western way of life was sacrificed at the alter of 'supporting the ukraine for as long as it takes'
                if youre an adult, that pays bills, this war has deeply ass-raped your bank account.
                if you pay a power bill, buy fuel or feed another mouth, "supporting the ukraine" is physically costing you like hundreds of dollars a month

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Inflation was happening before the Russia/Ukraine war

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                yes Ivan, now report to your nearest mobilization centre

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Demand for USD is inelastic
          We doing this again?

          Putin is part of the tribe too. By blood. So?

          >Putin is part of the tribe
          >Actually he's a christian goy but HE'S PART OF THE TRIBE
          >join azooger and get shelled in a trench with no contact for days today!
          Blackrock owns ukraine now lmao

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            His mother was gnomish, that makes him gnomish by blood. Under gnomish matrilineal law. The fact his mother had to get him 'secretly baptised' and his old ID documents state his parents were 'Hebrew' proves this.

            Don't be retarded.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I find it quite amusing that vatcunts think that the Ukranian gibs somehow impact western economies. If anything they actually help them.
          >the west doesn't have to waste money maintaining stuff that would otherwise stay in storage until they expire or get replaced by something newer
          >the money that ukies get is used to buy stuff made in the west, so they actually circulate their economies and create jobs
          It's pretty much a modern version of ww2 lend/lease + Marshall plan, you know, the thing that made the US become the largest industrial powerhouse and Japan a first world country even after getting nuked twice.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think so. I think the west (and ukraine) are anticipating the russians will perform a grinding offensive over the spring and fail to make and big breakthroughs, leaving them exhausted and vulnerable to an armored counterattack like in Kharkiv. Ukraine hasn't committed their reserve to bakhmut yet, so they're not actually worried at all. They can afford to slowly cede ground while whittling down russian numbers like they did last spring.

  19. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    russia will just shell them like they've been doing the whole time -a trench just makes you last a little bit longer
    gonna be hard to hold out too long without supplies

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, the fabled accuracy of russian artillery.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is the problem, good trench's and skilled fortification building makes things go soooo much slower. It is generally very costly and difficult to capture them- to launch a solid offensive on them is a massive undertaking. It is especially troublesome to do so with fortress cities, it will devolve into a tangled mess of wire and rebar like Stalingrad where you do not know where the enemy is because they could be under some rubble literally anywhere, laying prone in weird angles and positions all over the place from literally anywhere.

      There is no good strategy specifically for handling these situations quickly. The best strategy is always to encircle them, starve them out and pound them with artillery, mlrs, uav's, mortars, cannons, whatever the fuck. Air strikes are best if you can conduct SEAD or DEAD, but no one can do that in this theater. This is what happens with both sides employ MANPADS + varying levels of SAM's. Very little CAS or air strikes or LGB's or anything. It all happens through low cost high reward UAV's, and so those travel about as fast as a WW1 bi-plane or a turboprop or something and so trench's start to make a lot of fucking sense again.

      Without true air and naval superiority, war devolves into Russo-Ukraine. A slugging match meatgrinder nightmare clusterfuck. At first, the defensive lines needed to be developed, but after spending resources like mechanized infantry, MBT's, airborne assaults, in an offensive here, missile strikes here, oh helicopters, fighters and bombers learn to fly on the deck- oh no flying on the deck gets you hit with MANPAD's, no more air combat- or very little used in very precise and cautious ways. After lots of death and wasted vehicles and supplies, both sides learn that it is a futile effort to try to spend manpower and assets on deep warfare or mobile warfare or blitzkriegs or what have you.

      It will only happen when one of the sides has enough resources to conduct it.

  20. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    У вac тиpe кopoткoe.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ha aйфoнaх вce тиpe тaкиe, дaжe нa pyccкoй клaвe

  21. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    not 6666 millions orks have died but 150.000+
    AND I LOVE THAT NUMBER

  22. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    damn, all this from a handful of wagner prison units. imagine how badly the dills will get btfo once those half million mobilized and fully trained men arrive at the front.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      That handful of prisoners os carrying all of Russia on its back!

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        They are very happy to get a second chance, and to end their suffering in Russian prisons. Most of them would rather die then go back to their cells anyway, Russian prisons are awful. Watch some documentaries about them, they are arguably inhumane and it would be more humane to just execute them.

        An opportunity to die in "glorious" battle and be remembered with "heroes" as a "patriot" to train and work under the most famous and capable Russian PMC. An opportunity to commit war crimes on civilians and soldiers alike. To kill the "number one threat to the homeland". Some of them may see redemption, many will see opportunity to commit heinous acts on an enemy people and its soldiers. Most are just happy to finally die, and not be stuck in the hell that is Russian prison.

        They are perfect really, with a good commissar putting a gun to the back of their head- they will likely follow outright insane orders with fervor and zest because they are happy to die- and its even a "good" death culturally speaking. They DO NOT want to go back, ever.

        The penal squads were a great idea, honestly. This is their element, this is their purpose. To commit crimes and violence, and their government, instead of keeping them in a small box that they just want to escape sent them directly to who would handle them best and utilize them the best as warm bodies for small gains and released them and essentially said to express themselves the only way they know how- on the Ukrainians.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >once those half million mobilized and fully trained men arrive

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >half million mobilized
      lol
      >and fully trained
      lmao

  23. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    This whole war is a gay waste of life and money, but to me it looks like Ukraine is gearing up for a mechanized offensive either in kharkiv or melitopl. I don't know what good it would do them to throw in behind these blown to shit trenches and villages.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The idea that the Ukrops are going on an offensive is frankly unbelievable. This all hinged on western aid which in turn hinged on perceived ukie advances but the armor isn't coming for months now and over 500k rus are coming to the front. And even then as others have pointed out this is clearly attritional and has nothing to do with territory losses since the chances of a real breakout are so slim

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >but the armor isn't coming for months
        That's the neat part. It's already there. You can literally watch the USA and UK send their transport aircraft to Poland's 'donation airport' on the border.

        You can watch it yourself. A C-17 is due to leave Rzesnow Airport at 20:05 tonight. That's just today. Here is an image from earlier last week.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >extraordinary claims
          >a random screenshot of flightradar24
          FOAD

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/KSMS95l.jpg

            >but the armor isn't coming for months
            That's the neat part. It's already there. You can literally watch the USA and UK send their transport aircraft to Poland's 'donation airport' on the border.

            You can watch it yourself. A C-17 is due to leave Rzesnow Airport at 20:05 tonight. That's just today. Here is an image from earlier last week.

            multiple cargo planes land in Rzeszów every day, there's a military base set up at the end of the runway with dozens of vehicles lined up one after the other and the balcony of the civilian section is completely closed due to opsec. You sometimes hear jet engines roaring over other cities when it's cloudy, but there are never any civilian planes around
            t. Knower

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        What were you saying before they retook Kherson? This whole thing is gay and retarded but Russia has shown total incompetence. They called their own bluff.

  24. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Go fuck yourself, pidor

    If not there then where?

    I mean it'd be even worse if they were fighting them off somewhere it would be actually bad if they broke through

    >If not there then where?
    Slovyansk and Kramatorsk are more important than Bakhmut. Strengthen defensive lines there while slowing down Russian offensive during retreat. Urban warfare is not AFU strongest quality, losses are close to 1:1 when you fight for every building like they did in Soledar or in Severodonetsk before that.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Slovyansk and Kramatorsk are more important than Bakhmut

      But the Russians aren't attacking there, they're pushing Bakhmut and Soledar. So if they're offering battle for the sake of a less valuable victory it's stupid to decline that

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Slovyansk and Kramatorsk are more important than Bakhmut.
      why would you willing let russians advance towards those important cities when you can just meatgrinder them at an irrelevant objective like Bakhmut where russia gains nothing even if they take it?
      vatmoron logic always finds a new way to be even more retarded

  25. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    they are idiots. sorry to say. they should retreat and start the next day.
    russia will incircle them in 2 days from now and move on.
    they can starve in their trenches

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    why are they defending a literal nowhere?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      because its in front of important ground.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why not? Let the Russians bleed themselves dry. Make them sacrifice thousands for every inch of territory they seize. When their forces are exhausted, seize the initiative and counter-attack.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah bro! they should just retreat without any resistance until what they are defending is absolutely vital and they have zero strategical depth left!
      so fucking epic dude why arent you in charge of nato?

  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    As we can see from fresh reports coming in from the front, the Russians are aiming to break out of their encirclement in the master bedroom whilst a relief force try and make their way through the front door. After this, the next logical step would be to capture the bathroom and cut off the enemy's water supply which should be achieved in about two weeks time as long the smell of rotting convicts doesn't route both forces from the house.

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    for how many months am i supposed to be hyped for the supposedly imminent capture of a small town? what has it been now -- eight months?

  29. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    When you're next to Russia.

    You need to Have underground metros. Like Japan or UK. That way you can make city a fortress and have supplies running into city. So encirclement forces cannot cut you off.

    Irony is that North Korea is built to take on invasion from Russia

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Source, moron.

  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Can't. They'll get nuked. Ukraine is under the US's nuclear umbrella as long as they fight defensively. No more than sporadic long range fires on Russian territory.

    Any more than that and the US won't retaliate Russia nukes Ukraine.

  32. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >trenches are still effective in 2023
    Why can't we counter it in 2023?
    What were the inventions of tanks, grenades and shot guns even for?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because trenches are always a better alternative to having no cover at all.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      napalm and gas

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      they're accoutrement for the trenches, unironically, and by the time we *can* counter a trench, tunnels will be the de facto solution

  33. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    During this offensive, casualties to Russian forces is said to have been light and most Russian troops are reported to have made it back to their headquarters

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's right. Lightly mauled Russian troops disengaged on their own power, rotated from the front and just regrouped in hell no biggie.

  34. 5 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      retards repost shit like this thinking it makes Ukraine and the West look bad when being tolerant of LGBT people is a sign of prosperity, sophistication, and flourishing human freedom--all things the Russian mind cannot comprehend

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        2bh that is a very nice plane, I would like to fly around in it

  35. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they not want to just use caterpillar machinery the months they were there already? They just wanted to fucking break the grunts in even more before death

  36. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    kek

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      You do know that the vast majority of them got out of that

  37. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine

  38. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    What good will this do when the Russians are just going to encircle it?

  39. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    lol I wonder how many fiber cuts they are causing. Imagine the outage updates from the internet service provider. "DPR Officials are waiting on bodies to be cleared before splicing can begin. ETTR Pending"

  40. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Re: Fiber cuts, I bet it would be interesting to see state of polarization (SOP) stats from any long haul routes going through Donbass. I bet you could correlate artillery hitting the ground. Trains and lightning trigger SOP changes. There is a developing field to use these stats to monitor seismic activity even. Might be a cool research paper to show amount of Ukrainian shelling from 2014-2022

  41. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I-it's a f-feint. R-right?

  42. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    when you realize the culmination of the first 300,000 men mobilization was to try and be seriously reduced by a Day 1 objective - Bakhmut

    The entire mobilization was to take this small city of 40,000. 300,000 men to take Bakhmut, let that sink in.

  43. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    based, kopers on suicide watch and preparing for the eternal butthurt.

  44. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's crazy how every time a former Soviet satellite state chooses the west over cozying back up to Russia it's because of western false flag psyop CIA mind control. The idea that Russia is just so fucking shitty that ex combloc shitholes would rather gamble with western liberalism just doesn't occur to them.

  45. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    but PrepHole told me ukraine was winning.

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