why can't Russians ADs shoot down Uki drones on their own territory? is it like Himars situation when they see them on radar but cannot identify a threat?
Ukrainian drone strikes
why can't Russians ADs shoot down Uki drones on their own territory? is it like Himars situation when they see them on radar but cannot identify a threat?
I think the obvious is that they can, but it's a loose net. Having short range air defenses up at all times across all of the possible valuable targets in Russia is just too costly.
Remember what that Serbian Strela-1 veteran who posted here said? They needed to have the engine running in order to generate electricity for the launch and targeting systems of a basic IR SR SAM. They eventually learned that they could do it with the engine off, IF they were already pointing at a target and fired instantly as the tone changed. Now imagine how power-hungry radar-guided systems could be. I am 100% sure they have an APU or something there solely for those systems, if you can even call it "auxiliary" at that point.
Tanguska burns like 17 gal of fuel an hour just sitting there with as systems on
surely they can be plugged in?
>Remember what that Serbian Strela-1 veteran who posted here said?
For real anon, never assume people are telling the truth when they say shit like that.
Yeah, it's these 2 things
>Russia has to spread all of its air defense assets all across the front line, urban centers like Moscow and Saint Petersburg, military bases and production facilities, and also has to maintain a skeleton garrison on the baltic, finnic, and far east borders
>Russian AD is specialized in taking down big boy multi-million dollar fighter jets and missiles, like F-16's and Tomahawk, with large radar signatures and good cost-to-engage ratios. The only attacks however are from cheapo tiny, low altitude drones, some of them are made of literal waxed cardboard and shooting missiles at one with even a cheaper system like OSA, is still ridiculously expensive if they can even be spotted on radar
>End result is that suicide drones which cost a couple hundred, or couple thousand dollars a pop can destroy planes and helos worth tens of millions or blow up somewhere in downtown Moscow and increase civil unrest with no easy answer
Even the US right now doesn't have a solution to mass swarms of effective suicide drones, ex. laser weaponry are still one off unicorn prototypes without serial production
They could probably be taken down with a Gepard or CIWS or Shilka style of AA so that way they won't have to spend money on missiles to shoot down a cheap drone.
I watch to ignorantly say it's something about the precision of their AA systems which was "good enough" for actual aircraft and so it's just not able to handle small drones
drones are nearly invisible on radar
>they aren't hot enough for heat seeking missiles
>they are too small to get hit or trigger proximity fuse
>they aren't reflecting radar well
even ukies don't shoot down lots of drones
They’ve shot down most of the latest drone assaults and with the changes they’re making afterwards are probably going to lock out any further similar drone attacks although they may still be able to hit stuff outside of the important areas. Moscow is probably more-or-less safe from drone ops now.
>They’ve shot down most of the latest drone assaults
proof?
The Kremlin isn't on fire.
And if these airbases are so safe why are they putting tires on top of the wings of bomber planes, creating significant stress on the airframe to protect against a threat you day isn't relevant anymore?
A lot of the drones that have been used in Ukraine are harder to detect on radar because they're relatively small
>why can't Russians ADs shoot down Uki drones on their own territory?
I think you're underestimating just how fucking big russia is
Try calculating how many AD systems you would need to guard the entirety of the front and the hinterland at the same time. They simply do not have enough systems.
Yep. This is what I've always had to explain to the people who think SAMs are all you need and interceptors are overpriced and less capable. You need to cover your entire border/ front in them, but that chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. The enemy needs just one gap in it.
>you would need to cover the whole front
>you would need to cover whole russia
retards
By most reports they shoot down most of them, but nothing is perfect. It's going to be a real problem going forward, for everyone, in future warfare.
Suicide drone swarms cost a lot less and take much less setup than their countermeasures.
>By most reports they shoot down most of them
kek
Let me guess, only reports that ultimately lead back to the same people who told you the Ghost of Kyiv was real and Snake Island refused to surrender and Robotnik was conquered and on and on and on are valid?
nice b8 m8
This post of yours is supposed to help your argument? Really?