So, i know this have been the topic for so long, but word going around telegram is that the AFU scraped every place they could and mustered some 19 brigades to try and drive wagner out of bakhmut, these forces were supposed to be used to retake mariupol but they decided to use everything they could in bakhmut.
Those troops were supposed to be used later with western armour and more ammunition so they'll go unprepared, Russia knows this and has been pouring more troops in bakhmut to try and cripple the AFU for good, what do you guys think, is this a sound strategy? Looks too risky to me.
Pic related was one attempt, the ukros are taking some big casualties in the muddy roads in and around bakhmut both trying to retreat and advance
Why did you cut out the Russian TV being the source of this? Why did you also ignoring the Z marking?
The pidorashkas got real quiet after this was posted.
How is that relevant? There are no Z markings. The vehicles were confirmed as Ukrainian by Oryx's team
>Confirmed by Oryx's team
Very interesting how you assert his, but don't provide actual proof of it.
There you go
>Vatnik posting what was clearly a recon probe as if it's the turning point of the entire war
Sure buddy, sure. It was already stated as a counter-offensive by pro-Ukrainian sources, but keep coping.
Considering that they also lost a few dozens soldiers during that "probe" I would say that Ukraine needs to reconsider it's methods of doing "recon"
Yes indeed, these two (2) destroyed BMPs are surely the straw that will break the back of the Ukrainian military.
That photo is pixelated. Also, what z?
>not shilling for Ukraine
You guys are bots, right? My favorite part of the conflict was seeing a few dozen redditors transition to pink mist and go from he/him to was/were.
>word going around chudgram
stopped reading there
>ask for western armoured vehicles
>fuck it lets just go in before we get it all
doesn't sound right to me but ok.
That's the thing, if they're going now the situation must be critical
If it was the would just leave Bakhmut.
>no better than a twitter post
What is so critical about losing Bakhmut that Ukraine would destroy it's entire army just to retake it?
Tell me OP. Use your words. And tell me if anything about your words make any sense outside of delusional vatnik ramblings.
This is the same how three months back Vatniks had claimed that Russia had actually taken Bakhmut and that Ukraine was the one doing human waves attacks against it.
Too many losses, war is taking a heavy tool in the west, Russia is committed to go through the end, China may start a lendlease, they have to show something or the aid will stop coming or they'll be forced to surrender, despite Russian initial plan have failed they showed great strength against sanctions and have the support of the population, you forget Ukraine is a failed state maintained by aid, do you think this will go on forever?
>Ukraine is a failed state
Russia is more of a failed state than Ukraine is. Russian "state" doesn't even have a monopoly on violence.
We've really gone full circle now. These are 1:1 the same talking points Vatniks were using in summer 2022. The only thing missing is to tell us how Europe will freeze.
>they showed great strength against sanctions
>war is taking a heavy tool
Like yer mum, ESL vatnik vermin. Your boss should send you to the front for sucking,
>war is taking a heavy tool in the west
You mean "toll", not "tool", Pidor. And it isn't. We're quite happy to keep supporting them. Most of us actually wish we'd escalate faster and give them jets already. Many of us would prefer direct intervention - at the very least a US-enforced no-fly-zone over Ukraine (blocking Russian aircraft only, of course) and maybe some Hellfire R9X strikes on Russian leadership.
>Most of us actually wish we'd escalate faster
Most of who?
>China may start a lendlease
Yes tovarich, I'm sure CHYNA is very pleased to lend its weapons to Russia so Russia can attack its European weapons lab. They'd also benefit from a Russia that has a strong bargaining position against eulopean resource needs since that'd enable them to compete against against the eulopean market as buyers, as opposed to making Moscow beg for oil purchases with dimes on the dollar. Who knows with all those weapons that they'd send to Russia Russia might have a chance to restart disputing the ownership of the Uyghur provinces of CHYNA, a clear Chinese interest.
>war is taking a heavy tool in the west
Where? Bro we are fucking loving this.
Good morning sirs!
>cleaning out 40 and 50 year old cold war crusty ass shit
>a heavy toll on the west
>when a single squadron of f35s, a US armor brigade and a couple of infantry divisions would utterly roll and smoke then entire raf
Holy shite mate gr8 b8 8/8
>Ukraine would destroy it's entire army just to retake it?
Nothing, that's just the fanfiction you've been told to roll with. And no, you replying to your own posts doesn't mean it's working.
Fuck you to death, kacap.
Russians lie so much they are completely lost in their lies at this point.
Why would they do this? Probably the same reason Russia keeps attacking Bakhmut in the first place: Slavic autism. They hold stupid grudges, they get really stubborn, etc. Sometimes it works out (it's what's let them hold Kiev against the Russians). Sometimes it doesn't.
They're not destroying their entire army in the literal sense, just the force they had planned for a spring offensive.
The offensive will be for Melitopol and Zaporizhzhia. The Donbas is too dug in, they will just waste the equipment they've just been sent. It's being used to bleed the Russians and nothing more. It goes both ways, if Russia takes it there's another "Bakhmut" 10/15km down the road. Same if the Ukies take it, Russia will be waiting 10/15km to the East of it.
Damn. If this is how Russians lull themselves to sleep they are going to actually kill themselves en masse when they see the forces prepared for counteroffensive capturing Mariupol in a 3 day blitz.
Now that there's actually 400k Russians on the line and 300k waiting, very hardly, kharkiv success was duo to skeleton garrisons defending a huge line, and even then the ukros suffered great losses, that won't happen again.
>the REAL pucciyan army is here now!
lmao the delusion and cope
Russian lines break because they are all fighting for money and nobody is going to risk getting encircled for money. Same as the last time, the moment Ukrainians create any opening and start moving deep into the Russian lines , Russians that are supposed to be the second or third line will steal the first civilian car they see and book it straight to Russia.
And what are the meat shields gonna do with no equipment lmao?
I honestly hope we aren't THAT retarded.
If you actually believe this is a realistic Ukrainian strategy then what the fuck are you smoking.
You fell for another Russian psyops
>You fell for another Russian psyops
he didn't fall for it, he's the one spreading it
What were Ukrainian military losses by December?
>word going around telegram
Maybe keep that gay shit there
I am John of New York oblast and I am very demoralized now
>I am John of New York oblast and I am very demoralized now
This doesn't even make any sense. Why do you think the Russians are trying to demoralize anyone? I'm not demoralized by whatever psyops either side puts out, I just want shitlib Hohol worshippers to suck start a shotgun and stop spending money on this bullshit.
>Russians are trying to demoralize anyone?
Russian propaganda, even before the war, was always about turning the average citizen against the western govt. In this case, it's supposed to create a domino effect of losing support for aiding Ukraine.
>shitlib Hohol worshippers
Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves. Some ukrainians, at the start, even took their own guns and joined the fray. It's PrepHole's wet dream to repel an invader the ol' fashioned way; with the sword and not the pen. Hardly "shitlibs"
>''Fucking terrorist! Stay in one place so I can shoot you!''
Vatniks, not even once.
>Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves.
Meme countries that exist on paper have no rights. They are territories and everything up to Berlin belongs to Russia because that is what the west agreed to when the nazis were beaten. Either deal with the consequences of your own agreements or get ready for nukes because the Russian patience is not infinite.
Sorry Ivan you're gonna have to give back your non-existant country to the Mongolians. Your shitty tribute collection agency larping as a country has come to an end.
> Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves. Some ukrainians, at the start, even took their own guns and joined the fray. It's PrepHole's wet dream to repel an invader the ol' fashioned way; with the sword and not the pen. Hardly "shitlibs"
Nta but you need to work on your reading comprehension
>Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves. Some ukrainians, at the start, even took their own guns and joined the fray. It's PrepHole's wet dream to repel an invader the ol' fashioned way; with the sword and not the pen. Hardly "shitlibs"
I wonder how he is doing now
Yes, finally another neutral unbiased view on this conflict. I do not care that Russia has been slaughtering hohols and will soon take Kiev in a mere two weeks. I just want Biden to stop giving money to the hohols.
Might as well start posting articles from the Sun next.
>but word going around telegram
Does this ever work out for you, vatnik retard? Why do you keep trying so hard?
>So, i know this have been the topic for so long, but word going around telegram is that the AFU scraped every place they could and mustered some 19 brigades to try and drive wagner out of bakhmut, these forces were supposed to be used to retake mariupol but they decided to use everything they could in bakhmut.
This would be absolutely retarded so I am pressing X hard but hey there's a < 5% chance this is real and not propaganda
>uh mabbey it's ture??!
Stop trying so goddamn hard, subhuman. It's revolting to watch.
Good. Great. Does that mean this stupid war is over with?
>32 posts and 15 IPs
Oh look, the glavset is working.
>word going around telegram is that
At this point I'm more inclined to think such unconfirmed rumors are meant to relax the Russians because they get blasted.
>but word going around telegram
So Russia should be fine then. Time to send the vatnik reserves to Bakhmut to finish the ukies off.
>Kharkiv all over again when there are no 19 brigades at Bakhmut.
>these forces were supposed to be used to retake mariupol
I know you're a sad sack of lying shit, but you know as well as I do that we have not seen at all a SINGLE Ukranian modern brigade used yet. None with the latest weapons from NATO, none with the IFVs that have been there for weeks, none with any of the 50+ modern MBTs that have just arrived there as well, none originating from the numerous training programs across europe.
Nice try tho, see you this summer, gay 😉
Wagner has taken Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, deepstateUA says the Russians entered and gained a foothold in Krasnogorovka (A) and further south in the direction of Kamianka, on the avdeevka front and a mandatory evacuation was announced in kharkov, so what's going on, ukros running out of steam?
>ukros running out of steam?
Every officer worth something has been saying that the aid is anemic at best since March 2022, but spineless politicians have been dragging their feet. Those retards couldn't even handle Covid and the migrant "crisis", war is completely outside their capacity.
Oh no, I am now fully demoralized. I, Chuck Chuckovitch from Texas Oblast think we should stop helping Ukraine because it is only laundering the democrats money.
>I, Chuck Chuckovitch from Texas Oblast think we should stop helping Ukraine because it is only laundering the democrats money.
>"The Russians are trying to divide us!"
>posts this shit
>can't sense the tiniest hint of irony.
I fucking hate redditors so much. Hey buddy, his post was /s. It was sarcastic!! /s /s /s !!! He didn't mean it!! He was making that poet to make fun of how ridiculous Russians on this board sound !!! /s /s /s /sarcasm /sarcastic. You should post a picture of all of the guns (you don't own) and ask us which one you should use to kill your retarded self.
>Wagner has taken Orekhovo-Vasilyevka,
Not even your Rybar cope map shows this. Just stop.
Here you go
The nose is growing
>Wagner leader, Prighozin denies Orikhovo Vasylivka is under their control.
>7:08 AM · Mar 12, 202
Unless something has changed very rapidly that's vatnik-slop.
>Wagner has taken Orekhovo-Vasilyevka,
Prigozhin himself denounced this. This is why you should just not trust RU telegram.
Capturing villages with a pre war population of 200 are now considered as strategic breakthrough.
Just two more mobilizations.
>it's YOUR Verdun
>no YOUR Verdun!
Fixing and attriting Russian regulars in Bakhmut was the idea, and it keeps attention (and build up) away from the desirable counter offensive areas.
>too risky, tenuous position
Space for time is a limited thing. Big as Ukraine is, it ain't Russia, and every city they touch is leveled which adds more displaced persons. They have manpower parity now, and that's going away with the next round of conscripts by Moscow. More experienced 'professional' and experienced soldiers they waste on the line, the better. If they want to give battle in Bakhmut, then the Ukrainians have to oblige to do damage.
>we can't possibly be losing
>we must be fighting the entire AFU that must be it
>and their HATO-trained conscripts
>and 100,000 Polish mercenaries
>and 10,000 SAS Gurkhas led by Boris Johnson
>in fact all of HATO's raping morons are arrayed against us
UK are saying Russia is making gains in bakmut though
>The garden centre has fallen
>Soon, all of the retail in Bakhmut will be ours
>Then we move on to the final objective: the RESTAURANTS!
>DUN DUN DUNNN
So how long until the next lamp post, comrade?
Oh, just two more weeks, Ivan, two more weeks.
>word going around telegram
wait for it
waiting, what two weeks again?
Once backmut falls the road is open to odessa and that means total ukrainian collapse in a matter of weeks.
Dude what the fuck are these guys smoking?
>Once backmut falls the road is open to odessa and that means total ukrainian collapse in a matter of weeks.
2 weeks, to be sure.
>Zelensky knows that when the peace deal hit the fan he's gonna say goodbye to all the land Russia managed to get her hands on. That's why he's not leaving. I think eventually he will lose both the city and a lot of troops.
yeah, heard that like what day 5?
No, day 3. Still - no.
>Meme countries that exist on paper have no rights. They are territories and everything up to Berlin belongs to Russia because that is what the west agreed to when the nazis were beaten
They legitimately have two people here posting this. I hope they are getting paid in washing machines.
Putin should be proud.
How new are you?
I think circa 2014, why? Do I not meet nu-k standards?
Just not seen such a boomer method of replying in a long time, newfag.
I get to be called a boomer and a newfag at the same time?
You get one title. Retard
Those are not mutually exclusive. Stay mad plebbitor.
No, he’s right. Lurk moar gay
Zelensky knows that when the peace deal hit the fan he's gonna say goodbye to all the land Russia managed to get her hands on. That's why he's not leaving. I think eventually he will lose both the city and a lot of troops.
47 distinct IP's
Oh and still 47
There probably isn't going to be a counter-offensive. They don't have enough troops, armored vehicles or ammunition. I don't see how they could ever retake Mariupol.
Another esl post full of retarded bullshit. Kys please.
While Ukraine keeps reinforcing the meat on bakhmut Russia captured dubovo-vasylivka and continues to advance along the highway
>AFU scraped every place they could and mustered some 19 brigades to try and drive wagner out of bakhmut, these forces were supposed to be used to retake mariupol but they decided to use everything they could in bakhmut.
t. intel slava z
Just like the 'When Kherson counter-offensive?' posts from last year when the Russians claimed that the offensive had already happened and all the Ukrainian forces were spent and broken.
We all know how that one turned out in the end.
What are these country ball things called.
I need to see some art of russian conscript bussy
Polandball comics, pretty good stuff. It can be made by anyone so quality can vary but they can be pretty funny if you know your history.
Why do you russian monkey 'people' spam your pointless lies?