Ukraine to receive VULCANO ammunition
https://soldat-und-technik.de/2022/08/bewaffnung/32586/praezisionsgelenkte-vulcano-artilleriemunition/
https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/themen/krieg-in-der-ukraine/lieferungen-ukraine-2054514
I really, really hope to see some more precision kino soon
Scholz delivers?
so it seems
Wait till it's announced that they get 1000 of them and producing more takes a year
1000 of these would be great, I doubt they'll even get that many.
This is a weapon for surgical strikes, not something for counter battery fire.
The Pzh. 2000 will not only keep blowing up artillery positions with counter battery fire, but will also get limited ability to frick with enemy logistics like the himars.
If spotters are present with a laser you could even hit moving targets.
the first batch is supposedly around 250 units and the Ukies are apparently only receiving the GPS ones according to the news.
There is no "GPS ones", they've got both GPS and laser-guided in one package.
If you can immediately counter battery from 70 km away with 1 meter accuracy it will frickup anything that isint up armored eg: grad trucks and D30's
Having a longer arm is useful for anything in this or any war tbh
With 1meter CEP it's gonna direct hit anything with armour and frick it up anyway lmao
Yeah but the counter battery radar cant exactly pick out where the shell went from with the accuracy of a few meters
Which as earlier anon said
>accordingly the US also sent them a dozen scaneagle recon drones today
or why they have real time sat intel, all sorts of other drones etc. Based on all the explosions behind the lines, just plain having spotters around 50-70km back isn't out of the question either.
My point is that it would be a waste to use this to frick up some D30s.
>1000 of them
So approx. 999 more dead russian tanks/command posts/ammo depots etc.? Nice.
"255 VULCANO-Granaten im Kaliber 155 mm an die Ukraine durch die Industrie zu einem derzeit noch unbekannten Zeitpunkt geliefert werden."
>255 rounds, no date confirmed
Scholz is a fricking cuckold, I knew this sounded too good to be true. He's giving them some ammo to test its effectiveness while secretly hoping they give up soon so he can go back to sleep.
>State of the art munition leaves prototype phase and enters production
>First batch goes directly to Ukraine instead of the countries that paid for and developed it
>?????
>Tourist throwing a fit again
italy is already using them iirc
I heard they were also tested with CESARs
The naval calibers, not the 155mm.
>in use since 2019
Suck a wiener.
The US is squeezing all the eurocucks to "do something". This is the something.
Hohols better get ready for a cold winter of death.
>Vatniks better get ready for a cold winter of death.
FTFY
What does it do?
1m CEP at 70km, GPS & laser guidance
me
>In 2012, Oto Melara and the German defence company Diehl Defence signed a contract at Eurosatory in Paris to develop and produce the precision-guided artillery projectiles "Vulcano 155 GPS/SAL" and "Vulcano 127 GPS/SAL". These projectiles are to be able to hit the target with an accuracy of 1 m and thus surpass the US M982 Excalibur, which hits a given coordinate at five to ten metres. While the Excalibur is controlled exclusively by GPS, the Vulcano is to be switchable between GPA mode (GPS control) and SAL mode (laser target marking by artillery observers). In laser control mode, 1-metre precision is to be achieved, so that not only stationary targets but also moving tanks can be destroyed. Vulcano 155 GPS/SAL also meets NATO's JBMOU specifications and can therefore be used with almost all 155 mm guns (e.g. the self-propelled howitzer 2000).[6][9][10]
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Noice
Who cares?
Ughhhhh gun autists do???
>weapon
>weapons board
truly a mystery
>butthurt /misc/ tourist forgets he's on /k/
Kurwa
That thing looks like a fricking DragonDildo. Bet i could take like half of it. 2/3 if i had some help
In English?
>right click
>translate page
Learn German bozo
Imagine being able to hit a window-sized target in a building at 70km lol
Imagine? Why, am I Russian?
>Hey Sal, target that T72 and call the operator a Vatnik
Underrated.
>vulcano
>ok Vlad, now invade ukraine
Didn't they already get Excaliburs
yes, but vulcano is better
Neat
Excal rounds top at 50km. Apparently there are newer variants in testing that can reach 70km
it's not variants, it's the barrels. excaluburs are the same, but if you use 52 cal barrels you get 70km range instead of 45-50 with 38 cal.
Lmao
Being able to hit a towel sized target from 70km away must look like magic to Russia
Russian air "defence" is only good for flexing on civilian airplanes.
Blowing up individual FSB offices and cars in the occupied cities sounds fun
They've apparently just started using excalibur also
Italians make good stuff.
Not really.
on some sectors, they do
It was a shared project between Germany and italy since 2012.
I have yet to find any mention of German contribution other than assistance on clearing it for the German 155mm cannon on the PzH2000
iirc Vulcano 155 is just an up scaled version of the 76/127mm one
It was literally a shared project between Diehl and the italian firm Rheinmetall wanted to buy at some point (no idea if that ended up happening but it's how I first heard of them) for 10 fricking years you obsessed sperg.
>iirc Vulcano 155 is just an up scaled version of the 76/127mm one
IIRC your mom turn tricks on the street corner for a quarter you baboon.
yeah I’d believe that if you were to show me any source
Not him but it's literally in the official brochure on Leonardo's website:
https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18299996/VULCANO+155+%28mm08723%29+HQ.pdf?t=1643365268931
b***h gave me crabs if that's what you're after.
Or do you mean the deal with Diehl?
How'd you brag about doing research on it but fail to find any news about it from Eurosatory 2012? Did you somehow not figure out Leonardo used to be called Oto Melara before they rebranded?
Here's their website
https://www.diehl.com/defence/en/products/ammunition/#guided-ammunition
>Guided ammunition Vulcano – a product of German-Italian cooperation
In order to provide armed forces in the future with the capability to engage stationary single targets as well as moving targets at long distances with pin-point accuracy, Diehl Defence has developed, together with its industrial partner LEONARDO, the new guided artillery ammunition VULCANO. The ammunition family combines highest target accuracy with the unique option of mission abort after firing for this kind of ammunition.
>The combination of satellite-based navigation with laser- or infrared-sensor control makes VULCANO one of the most accurate artillery ammunitions worldwide.
>VULCANO is being offered as 155 mm caliber for army artillery and 127 mm for navies. The 155 mm-caliber version can be fired from the self-propelled howitzer 2000 (PzH2000), the FH-70 and M-777-A2 field howitzers as well as from the CAESAR and M109 self-propelled howitzers. The 127 mm version can be employed in 127 mm/64 light-weight und 127 mm/54 compact naval guns installed, for example, on the ship types Frigate F125, Multi-Purpose Frigate FREMM and destroyer MEKO 360
I just don't understand people like you. How can you make such strong statements about the defence industry, pretend you did research and be both so wrong and so arrogant about it?
Do you just have a hate boner against Diehl and blindly talked shit about it due to that? That seems really specific.
Seriously, what's going on big guy?
>I just don't understand people like you. How can you make such strong statements about the defence industry, pretend you did research and be both so wrong and so arrogant about it?
Tourism. It's not about the company, it's the country people seethe at and embarrass themselves due to with shit like this.
This war must be free real estate for arms manufacturers.
nice
How much TNT vs normal 155 ammo?
undisclosed
Much less.
This is 127mm, not 155mm.
Same shit just smaller.
with less TNT
Why would a sabot round ever have explosive mass? It’s meant to cause spalling.
For more damage
What's Ukie gonna target first? they're basically gonna have total impunity.
Either key targets in cities if they can laser designate them (accordingly the US also sent them a dozen scaneagle recon drones today) or stuff closer to the frontline, where they can shoot and scoot after firing only one round instead of a whole salvo. It's the closest thing they got to an airforce with guided ammunition, in theory they can even hit moving tanks.
Anything bigger than two vatniks huddling together that they can laze with a Bayraktar drone. Be prepared for shit exploding left, right and center (even more than they already are) in a few weeks
>Bayraktar
Fly Eye
Best targets are soft and expensive, so stuff like radar, AA, command posts, and the like.
>Best targets are soft and expensive, so stuff like radar, AA, command posts, and the like.
Yep, and NATO intelligence is going to continue to be even more of a soft force multiplier. This sort of precision stuff is kind of a feast/famine thing, it can either be insanely useful and powerful if used right or complete meh (less explosive for hugely more expense then just a plain ordinary dumb 155mm) if used badly. But Ukraine effective has access to the best spy satellite and sigint and so on in existence, way way above their grade otherwise. Along with fighting on their own territory and having humint, that means they can be very good at figuring out where the juiciest stuff is and just need the means to strike at it. These tools therefore can be used to full effect.
And on top of all that the latest really juicy high-value targets was offered up by awful Russian opsec. That's unlikely to change, Russians being Russians.
Suup how my NATO bois doin? Hope shiss bussin wit da Ukraine man. Anyway Timmy if you in here you can pick up yo girl now. We done fr now.
Another day, another toy to play.
If, hypothetically, the CIA *found* documents that unequivocally prove Scholz' guilt in the cum ex scandal
And in turn, he had to resign and the coalition partners would break the coalition, leading to reelections
And the green party would nominate the superior chad Habeck who wanted to arm ukraine last summer already
THEN maybe we would start arming ukraine for real.
You know what you have to do burgers.
I allways thought those cards are dealt by the US since '45
Do Germs really have independence from uncle Dolan ?
Sure do. Though I'm beginning to question the value of that.
Just remember the nordstream 2 business. US congress was united in preventing it, but germany just said not your business and built it. Eventually biden relaxed the sanctions because he saw it went nowhere and it wasn't worth the rise in anti-american sentiment in germany.
>documents that unequivocally prove Scholz' guilt in the cum ex scandal
I thought his involvement was already proven but nobody gives a frick because all politicians are corrupt to some degree?
Until now he maintains a position of "didn't know nothing, don't remember anything now".
His involvement is 100% proven, the corruption just goes to deep for anyone to do something about it. Kind of a Epstein list situation.
Calling someone from the greens a chad still doesnt compute, but somehow in this fricking clownworld he's the most competent guy we have up there.
Ukraine desperately needs maneuver warfare abilities and combined arms with fire support. Until they get that any idea of them defeating and pushing the Russians out is simply a pipe-dream. They’ll remain at the mercy of whenever Putin decides it’s time to declare victory.
pathetic g*rm shit nobody wants