>Ukraine adapts Soviet air defense systems to fire US missiles.
>Ukraine has successfully converted Soviet-made Buk-M1 air defense systems to fire missiles produced by the United States, Air Force spokesperson Yurii Ihnat said on Nov. 12.
How do you feel about it? First HARMS, then Storm Shadow, now this.
It's a necessity, UA needs hundreds of AA systems and there are no more sources of Soviet AA missiles
I guess if you ever need your PSP Jailbroke you just ask your local Ukie.
>psp
holy boomer batman.
it's all about ps vita now grandpa.
It has literally never ever been about the PS Vita, and I say that as someone who owns one
ah right, it's all about ouya now, how could i forget.
one day my ouya will be retro cool again and I, by association, will also be cool
OLED screen before it was meta, fucking sony, fucking weird sd cards, fucking lack of internal storage, glad these fuckers are no longer trying
>ps vita
It's about the Steam Deck now but that's the android of handhelds and comes jail-broken from the factory.
N-Gage chads ww@?
steam deck is nowhere near switch but for me, best purchase of last years, capable, good ergos, ok battery, in love with Linux, OLED version looks sweet
I really don't like the switch at all. It's too small to be comfortable, the controllers feel like cheap frozen dog shit and it only has Nintendo games
what did you just say about the Vita
Up yours whippersnapper, I was actually kinda hyped for the PSP line, thought a little competition would be good for the video game ecosystem in the handheld space. Boy did I overestimate that line of products.
Excellent Weebmachine though,
Don’t come at me with that if you don’t own an Openpandora rugpull console, or at least a gp2x
>Z**mers
>Jailbreaking
Never they wouldn't be able to pick up a controller if given a choice of a keyboard, controller and monitor. They live in a closed ecosystem of on screen controls for mobile games and are the utmost of human cattle when it comes to paying out to the corporations while decrying them as the source of all evils as they cry over their lootbox and gacha losses.
>t. grumpy oldman
Explained how to torrent shit to one of my younger friends a few months ago. His overall comprehension of the topic reminded me of when i tried explaining the same thing to my grandfather well over a decade ago
>t. older z**mer
>Older z**mer
Your part of the generation is probably less awful than whatever kind of human sewage sludge that the younger ones are. COVID lockdowns, TikTok and coomerbrain plus whatever made it so your juniors have an attention span of a peanut and the intelligence of a rutabaga while having more arrogance than boomers.
>t. Millennial who has called a boomer along with a Gen Xer at the same time by z**m z**ms..
The PS Vita is an excellent piece of hardware (minus the cart and memory card formats) ruined by an incredibly incompetent company. All it needed is backwards compatibility. Idiots.
>All it needed is backwards compatibility.
But how do you make idio- I mean customers buy the same thing again?
Holy shit what does that make me?
Im 36, was around PSP ever fucking ticked someones brain at Sony, never played that shit because it was expensive, and now missing out on pspockepussy vita
>it's 20something
>psp games freely downloadable online
>went to shop..
>let sales clerk demo PSP
>"where battery at?"
>check code underneath battery: last one before battery hack protection
>buy, hack with fake battery, install custom rom, use SD to memory stick adapter.
>profit.
to be honest, w/o game on stick the PSP sucked even more, the disc was so sloooow.
but when do we finally adapt western air defense systems to fire Kalibr
>limited number and capability
Why would we do that
For shits, giggles a the glory of Satan.
To flex on the Kremlin and to sell systems to post-soviet states.
>war ends
>russia fractured as fuck
>US, whether it's legal or not, takes the legal business/production license of BMPs, T72's, S-300s, AK rifles, you name it
>an absolute golden era emerges as the US becomes filthy rich as not only the tip-top equipment supplier to NATO, but also the biggest slavshit exporter
>essentially, all wars are fought entirely with american weapons
something like this is going to happen in this aftermath. maybe that's the reason they want russia to bleed slowly instead of a sudden military death
>essentially, all wars are fought entirely with american weapons
Wouldn't be the first time.
>US missiles
Uhh do murricans even have AA missiles of such class? Hawks maybe?
Hawk
A missile is a missile
Aim-120
it's probably firing converted A2A missiles like NASAMS doss
They're firing Sea Sparrows
there should be a fuckton of seasparrows around
>Frankenbuk is not real and it cannot hurt you
That's precisely the point.
SeaSparrows, AIM-120, and Hawk missiles (thousands of them from old stockpiles around the allied world that were sold back to US).
They have more air defense missiles than Russia has ballistic and cruise missiles.
They're giving them old Sea Sparrows now that the USN has moved almost entirely to ESSM.
Kinda surprised the US isn't doing a rush job to make their own medium range SAM with ESSMs, it seems like something it'd be a great fit for to fill the same niche as the Buk does and it'd relatively COTS that military loves.
If that niche ever needs to be filled it means that the USAF did something really, really wrong and shit already went sideways.
perfect for the marines then
It’s telling that they chose not to use British AA missiles
Hi Warriortard ! Nice breakfast?
>recycling leftover 80's SAM inventory
Yep, Seacat (MCLOS, picrel) and Sea Wolf didn't fly so good.
Though it would be hilarious if they got a second go at another 3rd rate military. Possibly even useful if recycled as ersatz "precision" MLRS systems, like ghetto Brimstones for soft static targets like OPs and AT nests.
Oddly enough as a shitty anti-personnel version of a TOW missile Blowpipe might actually be worth it, if only because they'd get them for free. Just take the 300 launchers in bongland load up and shoot at any treeline full of ruskies until you run out of missiles or the tubes melt. It would be fun if nothing else. certainly keep the flies down.
>first it was buk breaking
>now it's buk jailbreaking
The absolute madmen
Well I'm officially at the point where I can't distinguish AI photos from strange real ones.
it's definitely getting close, but you can tell this one is real by the reflections on her sunglasses being correct.
You can tell this one is real because the ARs are actually assembled like real ARs, and they're not "similar, but slightly off" between each girl.
AI image generators are still generally dogshit at firearms, and even the better ones usually get the aesthetic of "stock" rifle images right, but will hardly be able to render 3 competition rifles with this much fidelity.
As awkward and retarded as the c-clamp normally looks, with those stick thin tiny bird arms and gay torsos it looks even more shitty.
It's literally an ad, taken from the company that makes the rifles in question. Those are just models.
>gay torsos
They're women, anon.
There's literally nothing gayer than being a woman.
You think anon knows what a woman is?
God, they're sexy... and the girls are pretty ok too.
NATO and Soviet designs are merging into one. Nature is healing. Thesis and antithesis have become synthesis. History has ended. We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. We are the Borg.
>Soviet aesthetics
>NATO technology
Name a better combination.
>ESSM's on a Buk
These are improvements on pretty much every Buk out there, an extra 5km of range over even the most modern Buk missiles - and the US is making a good amount of these and has a good amount in stock. They're really nasty missiles.
>and the US is making a good amount of these
Only around 200-300/year.
And every USN surface combatant launched needs at least 24 of them.
Oh god it's a travesty, a reason to make more ESSMs. I can't imagine how this could possibly be a good thing.
Unit cost per missile
US$1,795,000 (FY2021) (average)
holy fuck, imagine shooting a 2 million dollar missile.
Is can’t imagine actually. I don’t own a BUK
>holy fuck, imagine shooting a 2 million dollar missile.
That's why you're supposed to have a layered defense. If gun with AHEAD shells is no good, you go for a MANPADS-level missile. If that is no good, try SHORAD-level missile. If that isn't good either, you launch MRAD missile etc.
The Soviets got the concept right, but their tech was garbo. NATO got the tech right, but the implementation was shit and fragmentary (because muh chairforce).
>imagine shooting a 2 million dollar missile.
Worse, imagine living in a country so poor that $2 million a missile matters to you.
ugh, $1.8M in today's dollars buys you one house in a good neighborhood. nothing fancy either.
>sea sparrow
>2 mil
In what world? Hell they're worth nothing these days because they're outdated as fuck and we've got a fuckton lying around
The issue is less getting them the weapons and more making an IADS with them. This mix of Soviet and NATO weapons don't talk to each other. I'll bet many of the older NATO stuff doesn't talk to the newer stuff. You have the assets but they're worth less. Sensor, targeting data not shared, left hand doesn't know what right is doing etc.
>Ukraine has successfully converted Soviet-made Buk-M1 air defense systems to fire missiles produced by the United States
This fucking timeline.
So, uh, how many of these the Ukies got?
three, on the condition they can never shoot anything above russia to not anger the mighty aids bear
They finnished it
>yaaaaaaaaah
Do people seriously think its Ukraine doing this and not the west?
Ukraine is the West now pajeet.
sirs, ukraine is friend now, they support israel
>the west decides to convert Buk to fire ESSMs
>forwards specs to contractor
>contractor outsources
>to their engineering department in Ukraine
nagger do you have zero idea how things get made nowadays? Eastern Europe is where a fuckload of tech work gets outsourced to nowadays. And Ukraine has had a massive arms industry for many decades now.
>Reddit frog
Soviet and Western tech being engineered to be compatible with one another makes my dick hard like no other.
Makes me nostalgic for that brief moment in time where all those former Warsaw Pact members who switched to NATO were just throwing ideas at the wall to see what stuck in regards to all their old Soviet stocks.
The specs for 9M38 are publicly known, and the glowies probably know every rivet of a soviet SAM system. Whats stopping lockmart from producing upgraded 9M38's.
All i can think of is the red tape needed to verify and test the engineering and the time needed to set up the production lines, also the fuckhuge stocks of sea sparrow is a plus, but it will start running out eventually and i doubt that the system can employ them to their full extent.
You can't just spool up a production line to reverse engineer a clone a missile that easily. It's something that would take a couple years at least and likely hundreds of millions of dollars when you include R&D and testing. It's far simpler to just convert it to fire old sea sparrows considering how many the US has and how well the system is understood
>The specs for 9M38 are publicly known, and the glowies probably know every rivet of a soviet SAM system. Whats stopping lockmart from producing upgraded 9M38's.
/k/ might like guns but it's only proof why grunts should never be asked about anything more complicated than shooting a rifle
>upgrade complete
>ability to lock on airliners disabled
The real big boys lock on space stations
which soviet era missile does the BUK launcher operate with? How hard would it honestly be to setup a western manufactured SAM clone of the original missiles? Sea Sparrows are great but long term a western manufactured copy of the original missile might be better.
>How hard would it honestly be to setup a western manufactured SAM clone of the original missiles?
Pretty fucking hard. You're better off orksmashing some sort of adapter to use Aspide or Rapier missiles on the launchers.
9M38/9M38M1, we won't bother making a copy because Sea Sparrow has similar capabilities and we just have to fuck with the Buk's radar until it can talk to the Sea Sparrow's radar. Rather if they fuck with the TELARs launch section they might be able to fit 6 RIM-7s on there.
BIG SAFARI gig
www.ndiagulfcoast.com/events/archive/38th_symposium/RutledgeSymp12.pdf
jesus those are some dire ammo stocks
So was this sheet bullshit, because Ukraine seems to have more air defenses than ever?
>private Sasha Conscriptowitch?
>Yes Sir
>Your papers say you work at Huawei Ukrainie programming WiFi air purifiers firmware, is that correct?
>Yes Sir
>Here have this raspberry pi. You have 3 months to make it read radar data from 9s35 and feed it into AIM-120
>No, we don't have any datasheets
>Sir where are the vacuum tubes?