UK to send apache attack helicopters to Ukraine

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-sends-apache-helicopters-armed-28955516

So, is this true or what, very big escalation

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Exploit their night attack capabilities. Let them become the stuff of Vatnik nightmares.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the Charlies poster or a different guy?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same guy. Met a Moxxie fan earlier though.

        https://i.imgur.com/V8VDVCC.jpg

        Russian military production is going full steam, they're popping more Kalibr monthly than west production of cruise missiles in a year, pic related BTR 82A out of the factory.

        All I see is a target in need of destruction. Somebody get a bomb in there already.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Situation must be dire for the hohols kek

      Nice avatar/signature use

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go on, call the mod you hypocrite, can’t I kill the Russians

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the Charlies poster or a different guy?

      Lmao his retarded writing style can be recognized from miles away: I wonder what kind of mental retardation he has.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I love how moto he is.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But but BUT HELICOPTERS ARE OBSOLETE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Life-uh, hate finds a way.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Underrated

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are. This is an expedient way of disposing of them. Death to all russians though. I am a moderate.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And since Ukrainian airspace is filled with AA what's good about a small number of apaches, if they get anywhere near the frontlines it'll get massacred, i wonder if they'll get the brimstones also.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That depends on the doctrine and usage if the helicopters. Hellfires can be useful because they can precisely target things from far away.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also they can be used much easier inside city limits than aircraft. Shower attacking Wagner convicts with bullets.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hellfires can be useful because they can precisely target things from far away.

        Hellfire's ranges is what? 8k-10k meters?

        This thing will kill the Apache in from 20

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Night attacks in urban defense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not every heli pilot is braindead russian tough.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you show me a Ukrainian plane Russia shot down?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but UA admits to losing a few planes to RU fire

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder what on the RF side is useful for shooting down air targets. The Ukrainians have a few competing options.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brimstones

      Btw, where are the brimstones? Never actually seen any video of them being used or hit anything.

      Were they all destroyed like most of the HIMARS and M777s?

      Or was the Brimstone just another mediocre western POS that's WAY overhyped and overvalued and expensive?

      Russian SAMs are already hard for the little indians.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Let me video a missile that finds its own targets 40 miles away
        >Bragging about destroying a M777
        wewlad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/WQQMbwU.jpg

        >Hellfires can be useful because they can precisely target things from far away.

        Hellfire's ranges is what? 8k-10k meters?

        This thing will kill the Apache in from 20

        >This thing will kill the Apache in from 20
        Proof?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/fSXVpYJ.jpg

            >the highest KDR per sortie out of any American vehicle in the GWOT
            Only because america wasn't using them exposed in hostile air space, as soon as they come under enemy fire they crumble like any other glass canon. Without US level of air dominance, apaches could struggle to perform outside the same tasks the russians use their attack helicopters for these days

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            Fuckface, no one said russian SAM launchers are invulnerable or indestructible...but I guess you are like

            [...]
            [...]
            >eight AH-64As guided by four MH-53 Pave Low IIIs destroyed part of Iraq's radar network in the operation's first attack, allowing the attack aircraft to evade detection.
            >Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq developed a formidable integrated air defense system with the help of France and the Soviet Union. That network was comprehensively diminished during the 1991 Gulf War and never recovered

            Russian Sams are only good for commercial aeroplanes. It's thirdie cope that can't afford western aircraft. Why you would post a picture of a Pantsir is beyond me.

            with room temperature IQ and the attention span of guppy fish.

            Keep jacking off to western military porn.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They don't work. Period.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                right, which is why ukraine is conducting daily sorties on russian positions!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I-IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >IT WAS CIA HATO CGI!!!!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >FUCKING HATO CGI!!!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >IT WAS CIA HATO CGI!!!!

                woah, footage from 9 months ago, amazing!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >footage from 9 months ago
                Yet, it still happened ON vatnig soil, when they were a lot stronger, and had more manpower/equipment. They're more likely to hit themselves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hyuck hyuck hyuck hyuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh, they were stronger? then where is recent footage?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >oh, they were stronger?
                Of course. That's not saying much, though.
                >then where is recent footage?
                Dunno, I don't track ever single sortie. HARM attacks, helicopters, and SU-25 attacks I know for sure. Might have to do with them using maintenance intense Soviet planes and helicopters, with limit ammo supplies, too. Hard to keep something that needs an engine overhaul after 1000 flight hours up and running 24/7.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope. spam more year old webms though if it makes you feel better

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe and dial8, tankie chud.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do you have any recent footage other than 2 men getting shot and bodies meticulously lined up and looted of footwear?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fucking helicopter raid still ranks as one of the highest kinos in the war.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Keep jacking off to western military porn.
              The reality is that one actually happened and resulted in a victory. The other is your own headcanon. Cope harder, you subhuman redditspacing moron.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Literally name any piece of soviet trash and I'll name a western counterpart that's better in every possible way. HIMARS wouldn't be so devastating if russia had ANYTHING on par with western tech. Being cheap to produce don't count for shit if your dogshit russian crap gets merked by "overpriced" western weapons with impunity.

              Can you even imagine how much faster russia would be losing the war than they already are if Ukraine wasn't constantly having to compensate for their shitty russian gear? Face it, there is literally NO capability or quality metric that russian gear has that isn't exceeded by NATO gear even from the fucking 1980s. That's why Iraq got spanked so badly by NATO, it wasn't because Iraqis were bad soldiers, it was because russian gear is just so fucking shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We have had one video of a Russian claiming to have killed a truck showing it firing them (literally no kill footage lmao just a video hours later of them hitting a forest), and another of them hitting two tanks simultaneously, but besides that no footage.
        The Ukrainians seem to be giving the bongs equipment a lot more opsec

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every time all of the HIMARS are destroyed, they somehow do more HIMARS strikes that kill 600+ Russian scum. Apparently they can come back from the dead.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh wow, theyll make some nice target practise for an s300 crew or vatnik with a strela

    If ukraine cant fly jets 100ft above the deck apaches are going to be the most pointless addition ever

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >S-300
      Too valuable to be used on air targets. Better fire it in ground attack mode at some random city.
      >Vatnik with strela
      That’s the actually dangerous thing out there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Position infantry around the helicopter's position to screen it against AA. Use the helicopter as close infantry support for urban warfare, darting about like a bat out of hell.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >S-300
        Can be avoided if you fly low
        >Strela
        Does the basic Strela even have thermals on them? It's a threat, but I'm not sure it'd be easy to hit Apache's at long range with it at night.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Does the basic Strela even have thermals
          it has infrared guidance, but only the Verba has infrared-imaging which is I think what you mean

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it has infrared guidance, but only the Verba has infrared-imaging which is I think what you mean
            Yeah, thermal imagining. I know the missile itself is heat seeking.

            Cause trying to pick out an Apache at night by eyeball seems liked it'd be comically difficult.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Use them as city defense. Vatniks try to shoot them down, the Ukrainians use the wreckage around them as cover.

      You know what a bitch it is to fight a helicopter surrounded by ruined buildings? It's got a ton of protection.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If ukraine cant fly jets 100ft above the deck apaches are going to be the most pointless addition ever
      Yeah this is dumb, Ukraine jets are forced to hug the ground and those retards are giving them an aircraft that only accels at two things... hugging the ground and targeting from behind cover.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        great, what cover do the massive flat plains of ukraine afford an apache? ''hugging the ground'' also puts it in immediate danger from MANPADs , short range ad like BUK and pantsir, and even small arms fire.

        this is not afghanistan were an apache crew gets to loiter around laughing as they pick off hapless third worlders

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Put the helicopters in the city.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            real life isnt battlefield 4.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Urban environments give helicopters cover. Infantry on the ground will screen for AA.

              Simple.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weren't some apaches shot down by AK 47 in Iraq, they got shot down in Yemen too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Weren't the helicopters out in the open, not protected by high buildings?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The pilot was hit by an extremely lucky shot, but the ones in Yemen are just... Ya those pilots are straight retarded

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How do you know it was lucky, maybe the guy was a good shot.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the cope is hilarious, the whole of PrepHole is just a massive reddit/Black gay seeth

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes, theyre hilariously fragile.

            Weren't the helicopters out in the open, not protected by high buildings?

            youve played too many videogames zoomer. ukraine also doesnt have a building taller than about 40 floors

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No trees in Ukraine, zero hills, no buildings? As for Air Defense, Hellfires have a nice long range to stay outside of manpads and drones can scout ahead for bigger systems. Hellfire Apache's are an in and out kind of system.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If Ukraine can't fly jets 100ft above the deck then aircraft designed for the express purpose of flying slightly above tree level will be bad and dumb.
      Your central thesis could use a little work.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not a Bong but on a scale how reliable is the mirror?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's usually considered a tabloid.
      They are literally the only ones with this news. I think it's safer to wait for confirmation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't find a mention of this anywhere other than one "article" in the Mirror.

        https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-sends-apache-helicopters-armed-28955516

        I'd tuck it back in, boys, until a real source turns up. Seems like something's going on there, but, the Mirror is not a reliable source for almost anything, especially something that would be this big.

        So it’s a nothing burger. Thanks bros.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      on a scale from 1 to 10 i would say X−1<X<0

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't, wait till the morning and see if it's on the BBC or maybe Sky
      t.Bong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m not a bong, but europoor. Mirror is -300

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is the mirror a decent source? Can’t find this stuff on any other site…
      Apaches would be a game changer, they are the best anti-tank stuff around. 3 of them could easily destroy 50 tanks

      >how reliable is the mirror?
      >Is the mirror a decent source?
      Complete shit. It's the paper Piers Morgan was the editor for. He got sacked because the paper published fake photos of Iraqis being abused by British soldiers because they wanted to cash in on the Abu-Ghraib scandal, and to this day denies they are fake even though they make the shit the FSB puts out about Ukraine look convincing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >on a scale how reliable is the mirror?
      It's clickbait garbage from before clickbait was even a thing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the Mirror says the sun is going to rise tomorrow it probably won't. It's a tabloid of the worst kind

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is hyperbole. It's no worse a tabloid than The Sun. Arguably it is marginally higher brow, more political content.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More free gibs me dats for ukraine

      that aside, this sounds like a bad decision - apache's are going to be operating in a very manpad saturated area with minimal logistical support

      We also have limited apache's as is, and although we're getting new ones we'd need more in general if we want to equip the QE class, keep our NATO commitments and then have a few stationed in the middle east.

      If they were deadset on attack helo's then perhaps surplus tigers/mangustas would be better - otherwise drones and light fighters (ideally lightly used F-16's, or Gripens, perhaps new F/A-50's if they can be delivered quick enough, with BVRAAMS and PGM's) would be better.

      It's one of the better "tabloids" - titles are very sensationalist but if the source is good then it's somewhat reputable.

      Whilst the BBC may have an agenda, it's probably the best source for this kind of thing.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a real possibilty Ukraine will have up to 200 western tanks and several western attack helicopters by summer.
    I'm loving it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only if the west is crazy enough to deplete itself before the war with China or Iran

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look how many Abrams the US has in stock, even if the UK sent its entire tank fleet and Apache fleet the US could lease/sell/give them replacements almost over night and everyone would be back to full strength.
        13 carriers anon...thirteen.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hell, we'll probably end up training the Ukrainians on how to use a fucking aircraft carrier post-war, lol.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bonus if the Ukrainians eventually start churning out vehicles from factories again. Supposedly they've commenced ammo production once more.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All their factory's have been getting bombed. Their tank factory's are destroyed.
            Ukraine realistically is not going to be able to manufacture any thing until the conflict is over.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >13 carriers anon...thirteen.
          GOD. BLESS.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/72OhO27.jpg

          >13 carriers anon...thirteen.
          GOD. BLESS.

          Eleven, at least one of which is being refueled at any given moment.

          JFK is at least a year away and Nimitz will be scrapped at that point.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/72OhO27.jpg

          >13 carriers anon...thirteen.
          GOD. BLESS.

          Like:

          [...]
          Eleven, at least one of which is being refueled at any given moment.

          JFK is at least a year away and Nimitz will be scrapped at that point.

          said, the USN only has 11 carriers, but there's also nine assault ships which typically only carry six F-35s, though they can operate up to 20 if they leave the rest of their air assets at home.
          Picrel is of two carriers flanking an assault ship (which is more of a troop transport than anything).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        200 tanks is less than 10% of the vehicles in active use in all NATO militaries, let alone the thousands of Abrams sitting in storage in the desert.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro, they've built 3,500 Leopard 2s and 10,400 M1 Abrams so far and both assembly lines are still operating. I think NATO can spare a few hundred and still be ayyy-ok.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Before ukraine war. You fucking russian bitches were speaking the same thing over and over again and that was “russians will come and we will occupy the whole europe. Now you know you stand no fucking chance literally no chance so you change the tone to aaaa you are sending your tanks against us buut china willl come and occupy the whole what ? Wordl ? Indopacific ? Again the same shits as with russian drunk bitches

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm Mc-lovin' it.
      *ftfy

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't find a mention of this anywhere other than one "article" in the Mirror.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-sends-apache-helicopters-armed-28955516

    I'd tuck it back in, boys, until a real source turns up. Seems like something's going on there, but, the Mirror is not a reliable source for almost anything, especially something that would be this big.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UK already sent western helicopters although non attack ones, given they already confirmed tanks its very likely

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like all the soviet stock in NATO has ended, now they'll send the modern western stuff to get destroyed, NATO will get in WW3 already weakened, no tanks, artillery, helicopters, manpads and ATGM to counter the chinese.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How to destroy BMP of type BMP?
        >This part you can shoot with 9mm to make a fist sized hole in it's lungs
        You gotta do more of these, that's fucking hilarious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2024
      >Both Russia and the West have run out of vehicles originally allocated for use in the war
      >Russian T-55s are now facing off against Ukrainian Abrams M1A2 main battle tanks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, *BASELINE* M1A2s!?! Not even M1A2 SEPv1's??? By 2024, we'll be down to just the spares with the upgraded gunner's sights and third-generation depleted uranium armor we keep for our own needs? We'll have completely run out of all the "gift" spares made after 1995? Do you realize what that means? If we go to war with China *and* Iran, we might only be able to send Taiwan M1A1 AIM v.1 tanks!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this a fucking video game?
      I swear the tanks in valkyria chronicles have the exact same weaknesses

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Attack its weak point for massive damage Boris!"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tbf "armored vehicles are less armored on the sides, bottom, and top" is just a universal truth of armored vehicles. I guess some tanks had thick side armor but even they had weaker rears.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's standard for armored vehicles to have thinner armor on the sides, rear, and underside (decreasing in that order): that way they can use thicker armor on the front (which is more likely to be taking fire) without compromising on weight

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Irl infantry have the same weakspots as video game infantry, too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is this a fucking video game?
        Yes, it came from Battlefield 3 and 4 logic. The weak parts of the armors in game was the rear.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one tell the retard running that channel that the Bradley's protection is way different from the 1980s model

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vatniks are going to get themselves killed by engaging bradleys with an unwarranted confidence that they'll pen it
        I can't wait for the footage
        It's like Japanese pilots mistaking Hellcats for Wildcats all over again

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vatniks are going to get themselves killed by engaging bradleys with an unwarranted confidence that they'll pen it
        I can't wait for the footage
        It's like Japanese pilots mistaking Hellcats for Wildcats all over again

        Oh the higher ups know it very well. They just will do the "not my problem attitude". They will bullshit the Conscriptovish with how "our AK 47 pierces that bradley shit through like butter, you have nothing to worry about comrade!" just so they can send the meatwave forward and get their quota done.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >14.5mm/.50 cal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm getting quite a giggle out of Bradley being translated as "the American Bradley model BMP".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what the Bradley literally is. БMП = IFV in Russian.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for sharing that info. I honestly feel kinda dumb for not wondering what BMP actually stood for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it possible to call an airstrike?
      Why even put this on the poster it just calls attention to the fact that russoid air support is nonexistent lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I, McDonaldson Coolguy from Los Diego oblast am demoralized!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that "infographic"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so demoralized right now! We must give putin Ukraine, Poland, and Germany, to prevent WW3 from happening!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm looking forward to some vatniks with a 14.5mm MG doing a textbook perfect ambush and just emptying the entire fucking belt into the side of a Bradley, They start cheering and hive-fiving each other until the turret starts rotating towards them. I hope they have just enough time to realize what had happened before they get autocannoned to death. Miraculously, the cell phone they were using to record the ambush survives, a Ukrainian finds it, posts the clip on social media, and we all get to laugh at it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw the US alone has 2 Airforces and 2 ground Armies, each of which could defeat Russia on their own

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        THREE air forces. The Marines have their own planes.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >senior defence source said
    Uhuh yeah
    If at all true, probably on a timeline like F16s and ATACMS missiles, ie many months away

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    64 helicopters won't make oinkraine win, apaches or not. west soledar was just a fein.

    z

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is starting to look more and more like a second Vietnam for NATO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, except we're the Russians this time, lol. We're supplying the Ukraine-Cong with endless weaponry, and the invaders can't do jackshit to stop us, lol.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vatnik projection
      Thanks for the laugh anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Difference is that this is survival to Russia and they'll burn Ukraine to the ground if they have to, and the population is not cucked so the great majority will get behind the government, differently from america.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Survival to Russia

        No, it's survival to Putin's regime. It's survival to ALL Ukrainians by contrast.

        It's the will of a handful of Russians against the entire Ukrainian people.

        Russia will lose.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Flawed logic, under Russia Ukrainians would remain Ukrainians, under the west they could have the same fate of the native populations.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bullshit. Putin's intent is to genocide all of Ukraine.

            But the Russians will fail.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Now that he saw the xoxols are too far gone that may be his objective, in my opinion he should have done this since the beginning, you don't take chances in matters involving the future of the nation, and you're naive if you think they'll fail.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DISMANTLE the Russian Logistics and their military manufacturing, and they'll fail.

                All the Vatnik manpower on Earth doesn't count for shit without something called AMMO.

                Maybe it's time for some Russian oil refineries to have accidents too, for good measure.

                I favor straightforward solutions to problems.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/J9A9VnH.png

                Flawed logic, under Russia Ukrainians would remain Ukrainians, under the west they could have the same fate of the native populations.

                Assuming it's not bait, did anyone else just see this motherfucker sincerely pivot from "In order to protect Ukraine from being genocided, we must genocide all Ukrainians" in literally one fucking post

                Holy shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you still surprised by vatniks having no regard for internal consistency? These are the people who brought you the narco-Nazi Judenfuhrer of the Nazi SS and the Second Great Patriotic War against him to protect the people of donbas from bombings (more civilians have died today than died from 2014-2022)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only an american could be that retarded, you animals truly don't have reading comprehension do you, Ukros have always been poor because they were corrupt not because of Russia, and they're still corrupt fucks, see hunter biden making 50k per month in a gas company, the whole country has been a money laundry hub for western politicians since Euromaidan, if they had stayed under russian influence they would be much better, now Putin has no choice but to destroy the ukrainian state, or else risk having an aggressive, massively corrupt puppet country in its borders, so yeah, im all for ukrainian genocide, they made their beds and i hope they drag the west to hell with them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Putin transitions to committing (overt) genocide
                Time to do a F-35 reboot of the American Volunteer Group, I guess.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >under Russia Ukrainians would remain Ukrainians
            Just like how they remained Ukrainian under the Soviets?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >under Russia Ukrainians would remain Ukrainians
            Just like in Karelia and the Baltics?
            Once the steppemutt rape horde has finished, any remaining population gets flooded with Russians who will proceed to undermine any native political system in favor of giving more money and power to Moscow

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Rachel S. Cohen

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bad bait. Main goal of Putin since his first attempt to install Yanukovych in 2003 was to make Ukrainians speak russian, write russian, and forget that there was any ukrainian in the first place. And since he failed not only in 2004 but also in 2014, now he went full NKVD and wants to purge all Ukrainians, re-educate children into obedient supporters of his regime, and import millions of vatniks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Burn all of Russia's military infrastructure to the ground, and they won't be able to do jackshit.

        No ammo = no more invasion.

        As Hans Gruber said, "SHOOT the glass."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russian military production is going full steam, they're popping more Kalibr monthly than west production of cruise missiles in a year, pic related BTR 82A out of the factory.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how many 40yo drunk conscripts with no training, no food and no equipement can you put in those things?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not to mention they still FUEL to even move, lol.

              Logistics is everything, and Russians suck ass at it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia could literally be outmanufactured by Mexico. Clown nation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pictured, the entire stock of BTRs produced since the onset of the war
            >In 2014

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How nice of Russia to donate all those BTRs to Ukraine

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, Ivan. The reason why the USSR won in World War Two was that they shouted "ura" enough times. If you show enough willingness to endure hardship and make sacrifices then the Russian spirit within you will make you immune to Ukrainian bullets. Just keep doing what your doing and you'll win because your nation is in no way committing suicide at the moment.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          l e n d l e a s e

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, was the Bong training thread earlier a little hint to us? An anon posted picrel earlier today...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a hint
      Probably not. The UK has been training with Apaches for a while, it's not news.

      The hyperleap here is giving their brand new Apaches to Ukraine, while the Brits are still learning how to use Apache's themselves. It wouldn't surprise me if some Ukeis are included in the training program and that (eventually) Apaches might be on the table for Ukraine.

      But, UK delivering Apaches to Ukraine next week is insane, krokodil-tier hallucinations.

      I think the troll squatting on the tread and shitting unhinged ESL all over it is an indication of what's happening here.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only value Apaches have in Ukraine is defending cities in close-quarters battle, properly screened by supporting infantry.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only value your comment has is how much it highlights your mental capacity or lack of.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >UK has been training with Apaches for a while
        No shit sherlock they've had them almost 20 years.
        >Still learning to use them themselves
        Are you high?

        The rest of your spiel doesn't deserve a reply clearly you are out of your depth and should return to where you came from you imbecile.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Are you high?
          Brits got new AH-64Es last year. They're still putting all the aircrews and ground crews through operational conversion training while they wait for the remaining helicopters to be delivered
          The older AH-64Ds are being withdrawn to be fully replaced by AH-64Es

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shut the fuck up back peddling idiot

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More like 35+ years on Apache.

      • 2 weeks ago
        RC-135 Rivet Joint

        bruh the Brits have used Apaches for decades. wut

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People like you are the downfall of society. Speaking so highly of a subject you no nothing about.

        >The British Army has declared its first regiment of 16 Boeing/Westland Apache AH1 attack helicopters ready for operational deployment, while the UK Ministry of Defence has ordered its first major systems upgrade for the type since it entered service in January 2001.
        >January 2001.
        >Brits are still learning how to use Apache's themselves
        >2001

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Apache AH1
          Why not just keep it at AH64 instead of naming it like a fucking Cobra?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            in practice, people say AH-64 anyway, but AH.1 (note the period) is the British classification system, just like Tornado F.2, Harrier GR.7, and so on

            https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/britain-apache-helicopters-ukraine-war-28957065

            >even worse tabloid quotes tabloid
            anon, you fell for the circlejerk

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Attack helicopter 1
            >AH1
            Weve never had an attack helicopter before and we don't operate the cobra so its irrelevant I guess?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/britain-apache-helicopters-ukraine-war-28957065

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't ever reply to me again with a daily mail link, it's just a copy and paste of OPs article. What did you expect to gain from this? Idiot.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Please don't use "Don't ever". It makes me think of that AIDS-Skrillex meme.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Journalist is an idiot.
    UK is deploying Apaches to eastern europe along with the first 4 Challenger 2s, which will be based in eastern europe for training Ukrainian crews
    The 4 Challengers will go to ukraine after another 8 CR2s are delivered. The Apaches will not

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UK is deploying Apaches to eastern europe...
      Nah they've been there ages already..Poland Estonia and Macedonia since March.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those were WAH-64Ds for exercises. They returned to the UK after a couple of weeks.
        They're deploying the new AH-64Es this time and it's hinted that they may stay there longer as part of NATO EFP

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apaches are permanently deployed in Macedonia and Estonia as part of the Nato efp. The ones in Poland returned. They aren't deploying the Es either. Everything you said was wrong.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UK is deploying Apaches to eastern europe
      That sounds much more likely
      Reminds me of when people though Skysabre was going to Ukraine
      Source?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >British Apache attack helicopters have deployed to North Macedonia for Exercise Swift Response. May 2022
        >Estonia has Apaches and Wildcats since April 2019

        This is old news I think the guy in the mirror didn't get confused he's either bare faced lying or has a inside source...the latter is doubtful

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >or has a inside source...the latter is doubtful
          He probably has an "inside" "source" and knows he won't get in any trouble for posting such unsubstantiated bullshit as long as he can claim to have heard the story from someone else first before publishing the article, even if that's a confused gypsy in the pub.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is the UK getting rid of its Apaches?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why is the UK getting rid of its Apaches?
      theyre fucking worthless death-traps, and the apache will be easily shot down, just the same as every other man-piloted helicopter on either side of this war

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how long does it take to train a hohol to fly an apache ?

    is there a chance some anglo scum will get shot down and burn alive ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how long does it take to train a hohol to fly an apache ?
      It already happened. The moment the aid is announced the deed is already done.
      >is there a chance some anglo scum will get shot down and burn alive ?
      Not unless somebody is willing to (and able to) shoot a western heli, piloted by a westerner in western airspace. So basically no chance, sir.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not unless somebody is willing to (and able to) shoot a western heli, piloted by a westerner in western airspace. So basically no chance, sir.
        sad 🙁 but i'll still enjoy dead piggies 🙂

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the mirror a decent source? Can’t find this stuff on any other site…
    Apaches would be a game changer, they are the best anti-tank stuff around. 3 of them could easily destroy 50 tanks

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *de-fund westland + bae*

    *cha cha*

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please enjoy a British classic

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UK dis stupid sucknak

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are hellfire missiles that aren't deadly?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean I assume there's training versions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a leftist bong tabloid
      it must have ADJECTIVE NOUN VERBS ADJECTIVE NOUN!!1! in every other sentence, and most certainly in the headline

      are they really more survivable than slavshit on a sam infested enviroment?

      yes, because they have automated warning and countermeasures packages and those actually work

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are they really more survivable than slavshit on a sam infested enviroment?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If its true US should send the Helfire samurai edition with the Bongs Apache

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Prime Minister Rishi Sunak

    DOING THE NEEDFUL SIRS

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw there's a possibility of getting gun cam footage of Apache's popping open BMP's and T90's
    BIG if true

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the effective range of an apache? Depending on the Ukrainians may be able to use them to strike russian depots in russia itself. The competency of the Russian military is honestly so low I don't think they'd ever be able to effectively counter it.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You will never destroy Russian armour columns in with Hellfire and Brimstone
    Why live?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because one day you might sink Chinese landing craft with Hellfire and Brimstone AND a chin-mounted M230 30mm chain gun.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf are bongs doing? What next?`Planes? Nukes? ICBMs? Uboots?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >western fighters are already in Ukraine under tight opsec and will be deployed all at once when they're ready for an air superiority sweep against russia
      >one gets shot down, paraded on telegram
      >it's a Typhoon with all the serial numbers filed off

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apache's aren't kino enough. How many Cobra's do we still have out in the desert? Give the ukies those.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That would be interesting to see

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they actually are able to use that huge radar on top and spam NLOS missiles

    Would be pretty fucking sweet to see combat footage of if they manage it

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The UK are NOT sending Apache helicopters to Ukraine. The Daily Mirror are not a reliable news source either.

    The West will never give the Ukrainians anything that would give them such an advantage over the Russians that it might bring this war to a swift end. It simply isn't in the interests of Western powers for Russia to stop right in the middle of its own self destruction. The Ukrainians have given the west the proxy war it has dreamed of for decades.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, we are sending 10 Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine and we have been training their guys to operate them since the summer.

        Sending just 10 of these tanks is unlikely make any real impact on the battlefield at all. Western nations are providing enough to Ukraine to keep it in the fight politically and logistically in order to prevent their defeat, but we aren't and won't be giving them the means to force Russian withdrawal.

        Also, Challenger 2 tanks are NOT Apache helicopters.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apaches wont do shit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every little helps

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nightmare machines that probably have the highest KDR per sortie out of any American vehicle in the GWOT won't do anything

            Yeah, okay.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the highest KDR per sortie out of any American vehicle in the GWOT
              Only because america wasn't using them exposed in hostile air space, as soon as they come under enemy fire they crumble like any other glass canon. Without US level of air dominance, apaches could struggle to perform outside the same tasks the russians use their attack helicopters for these days

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tldr your a retard and don't know the combat history of the Apache and its use.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO

                when has the apache come up against a fully integrated AD network like in ukraine right now?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >eight AH-64As guided by four MH-53 Pave Low IIIs destroyed part of Iraq's radar network in the operation's first attack, allowing the attack aircraft to evade detection.
                >Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq developed a formidable integrated air defense system with the help of France and the Soviet Union. That network was comprehensively diminished during the 1991 Gulf War and never recovered
                Oh no, your retarded. Could you be malnourished maybe?
                Fyi Saddam had a better AD network than Russhite it seems given how shit the RuAF is doing kek.

                AH-64As guided by four MH-53 Pave Low IIIs destroyed part of Iraq's radar network in the operation's first attack, allowing the attack aircraft to evade detection.

                incredible, they destroyed some unguarded forward radar sites right on the edge of the iraqi border, what did they do for the rest of the air campaign again?

                Wrecked soviet tier trash by thr metric ton?

                [...]

                Fuckface, no one said russian SAM launchers are invulnerable or indestructible...but I guess you are like [...] with room temperature IQ and the attention span of guppy fish.

                Keep jacking off to western military porn.

                Oh sorry I upset you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wrecked soviet tier trash by thr metric ton?

                you mean after the entire AD network had been destroyed? cause they definitely werent doing it beforehand

                >Fyi Saddam had a better AD network than Russhite it seems given how shit the RuAF is doing kek.

                LMAO. you shills are hilarious

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SUNAK SUNAK TUN SUNAK SUNAK TUN DIE DIE DIE
        >SUNAK SUNAK TUN SUNAK SUNAK TUN DIE DIE DIE
        >RUSSIANS BURN AS I SHOOT WITH RIFLED GUN
        >AS I SHOOT WITH RIFLED GUN
        >AS I SHOOT AT THEM WITH HESH AN AAAAA
        >DOLLAR STRONG AS I PUNT THEM WITH THE APACHE
        >I PUNT THEM WITH THE APACHE
        >I PUNT THEM WITH THE APACHE YEEAAAA
        >YAAAAA-AAAAA-AAAAAA-AAAAAA-AAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAA-YAAAAAA-AAAA-AAA-AAAA-AAA
        >SUNAK SUNAK TUN SUNAK SUNAK TUN DIE DIE DIE
        >SUNAK SUNAK TUN SUNAK SUNAK TUN DIE DIE DIE

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fucking wild that all of the equipment the West designed to beat back the Soviets in the Fulda Gap will now fulfill their purpose, but they're beating back the Russians, being piloted by Ukrainians.

    What's the opposite of spinning in your grave? Whatever that feeling is, I'm sure Tom Clancy is feeling it right now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jizzing in your grave?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So, is this true or what, very big escalation
    they keep fighting with literal flying tanks but sure the apache somehow will make a difference

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Send harry to pilot one of em

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Harry kills 50 mobiks
      >writes a book about it
      >celebrated as a war hero
      >royal family does a u-turn and begs him to return

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >deadly hellfire missiles
    Does that imply there are less lethal hellfire missile?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, but your post does imply you have semantic pragmatic language disorder.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the ninja one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nerf starts producing hellfire missiles

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly why hasn't anyone made a drone that shoots nerf darts or drop nerf grenades?

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So, is this true or what, very big escalation

    Awesome, I bet russian SAM guys and pilots are waiting for them with even more enthusiasm then the hohols!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/eU5MGMT.jpg

      >brimstones

      Btw, where are the brimstones? Never actually seen any video of them being used or hit anything.

      Were they all destroyed like most of the HIMARS and M777s?

      Or was the Brimstone just another mediocre western POS that's WAY overhyped and overvalued and expensive?

      Russian SAMs are already hard for the little indians.

      https://i.imgur.com/WQQMbwU.jpg

      >Hellfires can be useful because they can precisely target things from far away.

      Hellfire's ranges is what? 8k-10k meters?

      This thing will kill the Apache in from 20

      >eight AH-64As guided by four MH-53 Pave Low IIIs destroyed part of Iraq's radar network in the operation's first attack, allowing the attack aircraft to evade detection.
      >Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq developed a formidable integrated air defense system with the help of France and the Soviet Union. That network was comprehensively diminished during the 1991 Gulf War and never recovered

      Russian Sams are only good for commercial aeroplanes. It's thirdie cope that can't afford western aircraft. Why you would post a picture of a Pantsir is beyond me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian Sams are only good for commercial aeroplanes.

        The ex-Ukranian Air Force would like to have a word with you, dumbass.

        >Why you would post a picture of a Pantsir is beyond me.

        A great deal is beyond you kid, don't strain yourself trying to understand.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AH-64As guided by four MH-53 Pave Low IIIs destroyed part of Iraq's radar network in the operation's first attack, allowing the attack aircraft to evade detection.

        incredible, they destroyed some unguarded forward radar sites right on the edge of the iraqi border, what did they do for the rest of the air campaign again?

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to the shitload of MANPADs they will probably be forced to stay well back and lob Hellfires. Still they will make a great QRF for enemy armor.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nice, can't wait to see slavshit rust buckets capped from 11 km out.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sadly, I think this is a false report by the Mirror.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >obviously fake
    >213 replies
    and then you wonder why people call you NPC...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. sims 3 hater

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fake or not, it will happen regardless, so might as well discuss it, seething vatnoid

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >NPC rage
        I guess you tried.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're the only one enraged

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell it to me straight PrepHoleay, are Cuckniks fucked or it's just a meme copter?

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're never going to send Apaches. They're simply too expensive, and wouldn't be cost effective. I mean, for one of those, you can get several F-16s, 10 to 15 Abrams, or several dozen TB2s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They're simply too expensive
      not a problem if they come with repatriated pilots 🙂

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You what?

      Apache 52m today
      F16blk70 63m today
      Abrahms 6.2m, in 1999.., 10.9m today

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But they sacked The M261 High-Explosive Multipurpose Submunition [MPSM] long ago. So how gunships would do their favorite lobbing FFARs tactics? Standard FFARs are not good for this

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >article 404'd and no mention of it anywhere else
    False alarm then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, tabloid doing tabloid shit
      UK has given over three Sea Kings to Ukraine, but that's barely noteable in the grand scheme of things

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So that training exercise with helicopters was actually Ukes flying? Kek

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mirror
    Probably not happening.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mirror.co.uk
    no, no it is not

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh n-

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did feel that story felt a little suspect.

      Though if Apache's aren't on the table, I am curious if more modernized Little Bird Gunships would be viable in terms of being lower maintenance and being easier to train on.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What an astonishingly shit helicopter

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Ukraine have pilots left? Are the west openly fielding vehicle operators at this point?

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