> uhhh, why are we bombing the east of Verbove?
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696931698825437269
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696933019792138395?s=20
> uhhh, why are we bombing the east of Verbove?
> uhhh, why are we bombing the east of Verbove?
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696931698825437269
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696933019792138395?s=20
I wouldnt worry about it. Trust ze plan, the anus will know everything and the eggs will be counted
>the eggs will be counted
?
the eggs are in the eggs
its some sort of a russian proverb that rougly translates to counting chickens before they hatch
No, "measuring eggs" is equivalent to "who's got the biggest cojones", eggs being the russian name for balls.
Underrated. Thanks for the OC anon
i stand corrected anon
measuring eggs is unironically a great term for a dick measuring contest
we should adopt that one
Makes you wonder if the Rssians also have retarded memes based on the phrase dick-measuring contest.
its in reference to some russian commander or other screaming how his superiors were ''counting eggs''
eggs when translated in slav languages means balls so he bas basically saying that they were fondling their balls instead of doing their jobs
The eggs are "measured", not "counted" in the original but yeah
It's like saying Putin and Priggy were having a dick measuring contest.
IMO, I think Putin would be able to measure the most dicks.
but who would end up fucking whom in the ass?
Shoigu and Prigogine were accused of wasting time "measuring eggs" (comparing sizes of their balls) instead of winning the war
The eggs are in the basket.
The chicken is crossing the road.
No idea why, but this made me laugh like a retard
All will be understood the laugh is as the retard the chicken will be known then you will see the road to the ass
As soon as the eggs have been removed from the ass and the prostate milked yu will understand the full meaning of all things.
EVERYONE* will understand
I too appreciate post-nut clarity.
the chicken legs WILL be eaten you can count on that
You must eat ALL of the eggs
Russians and their fans are gays and speak like passive aggressive women they don't say what they think because they have no actual testicles so it ends up smug autistic arrogance that ends up with everyone shitting on them until they retreat back into their echo Chambers.
Their shills and Russians can't just understand "no one likes you because you talk like a passive aggressive smug gay and no one trust you because you never say your actual opinion and no one listens to you because they figure out your shit in 6 months ."
They think people insulting them for fun is a sign of people's weakness. They don't see direct action a strength. Ever
Total zigger death
>They don't see direct action a strength.
trips and all but is this really true? I thought direct action and violence are the only things that ziggers see as strength.
no, anon is making inferences based on shitty machine translation not being very good at handling informal russian
I think what
is driving at is that pozziyans are a slave race who are almost genetically programmed to never speak against their overlords, therefore any comms which vaguely criticize military operations have to be done in this fucking retarded poetic metaphor speak which machine translation chokes on.
This mindset exclusively applies to their own ruling class. When it comes to anything else they are snow morons who only understand force and can't comprehend the notion of honourable and fair dealings in place of brute domination.
>they don't say what they think because they have no actual testicles
"eggs" literally means "testicles" in russian, same as "balls" literally means "testicles" in english
Found the tryhard ESL. "balls" doesn't literally mean "testicles" in english; "balls" euphemistically means "testicles" in english.
>ESL
I have never seen anyone saying this contribute anything on PrepHole, ever
I have never seen an ESL turd double posting contribute to anything on PrepHole, ever.
disgusting false flag subhuman, Russians never stood a chance
>literally
I have never seen anyone saying this contribute anything on PrepHole, ever.
Russians use the word eggs for balls
Otherwise how will you know how many you broke in order to make the omelet?
Nothing to worry about, merely a celebratory bombardment in tribute to the succesful defence of Robotyne.Now place your rifle to the pyramid and go to sleep.
Counter-point - friendly fire is nothing new in this war, especially for the Russian Aerospace Force
(they were so butthurd about the BBC jokes that they switched to BKC)
Really?
Really what?
That they're infamous among Russian forces?
Or the part about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Aerospace_Forces
The BBC thing.
No, they're still the BBC (VVS). They're just now under an umbrella organization called the BKC (VKS) that includes the Aerospace Defense Forces (Essentially SAMS and ABMs) and Russian Space Force.
It's entirely possible that the Ukrainians haven't gotten that far yet, but that this is yet again the work of the legendary Calculator Man Cyka.
I want to believe but so many times zmorons over dramatise or deliberately mislead into believing the lines have moved more than they have, just to demoralize us
Ukraine has Opsec so they are quiet. Russian don’t know what that means so we have to rely upon them. But it’s like a game of telephone with them with chaos.
Its blocking artillery keeping morale up, don't think about it.
maybe its a VERY persuasive blocking detachment
Time for the tacnuke blocking detachment.
Dumb Westoids can't comprehend.
Recreational grad strikes are made to increase the morale of the troops.
So Ukraine is breaking through to some degree and Russia is panicking trying to counter? Details unclear past that.
It literally goes like
>Everything is ok hohols didn't breach through the line of defense.
>Ok but why are our own grads hitting the line of defense?
>Don't worry about it
the tuvan degenerate's cock soldiers are measuring eggs while the ass is in the ass
If this is true, I am eagerly awaiting for more telegram chimpouts from ziggers
dill holstered a "cock" in verbove but the impontent clucks in the tune of "stalin organs". the tuvan degenerate should come here to count the eggs and understand all.
Artfully done, Anon.
jej
authentic.
We had a thread some time ago on Russian lingo. I saved this gem and I'm thinking of getting it printed in a neat layout, like one of those shitty ass "live laugh love" signs.
#Layout #DNR #AssaultBatalionVolunteers
The Russian Ministry of Defense draws attention to recent shaping operations in the Kupyansk urban type settlement aglomaration. Assault Grouping Volunteers have worked on the point and taken Dvorichne into an operational environment. Aviation is active, artillery is working, everyone knows everything.
A force concentration of the so called Ukraine has been kalibrated, the arrival caused 50 200s and 400 300s. Fleeing Ukronazi cunts were cut toward Torske, local claps took out several command posts, cotton across the borders of the LNR.
The supreme commander in chief is not chewing snot anymore. Bears, Rooks and Iskanders are de-energising the so called Ukraine. Information is reaching us that several Ukronazi birds were taken down in the Marinka aglomoration. The Ukrainian ass is in the ass.
On a personal note, the Plywood Marshall is a condom who wags the dog. The two faced goat is rushing on four chairs to the planet of pink ponies. Foreign mercenaries and supplies by the respected Western partners are not being intercepted and (still) prolong the war. But no matter how many boxes and tanks respected Western partners will provide the Kiev Junta with, we will burn them all.
>I'm thinking of getting it printed in a neat layout, like one of those shitty ass "live laugh love" signs.
Imagine explaining that shit to someone "no in the know".
I've been a bit too close to saying "The ass is in the ass" IRL
In the ass is a legit Russian saying.
Its also a legit American saying. For example, "fucked in the ass."
Same in German.
If something is broken, we say “X is in the ass”.
We say "in the shit" here
t. Hispanic
In defense of my semi-autistic ass, i haven't said it (yet)
I've been also close to saying the eyebrow/cauldron thing too
Someone fucked up the CNC machine at work right before the VP gave a hot rush order. I just turned to my operator who looked like he was about to walk out
>"So the eggs are measured."
He was so confused, he forgot about the shitshow going on and started working on the machine.
>He was so confused, he forgot about the shitshow going on and started working on the machine.
Good job anon, you raised your eyebrow and proved your point.
The ways this website has poisoned my mind are as unpredictable as they are pointless
>Good job anon, you raised your eyebrow and proved your point.
Everything was understood
Sounds like your operator's ass was in his ass.
An eyebrow was raised regarding the cotton event with the machine. Now everyone understands everything and everyone will know about everything. The Y axis will be taken from the eastern direction with the mobilization of the maintenance department and the rush order will be fulfilled in 2 more weeks. China is already sending end mills and India is submitting feedstock in solidarity.
Charles Schwab ova here
The bonobo has defaulted on his mortgage.
The can of beans has chafing nipples.
The Verbove soup kitchen will serve gazpacho with a tune fork.
A babushka with black lung has bought yellow socks on Tuesday morning.
Grass grows quicker at the jazz concert's merch booth.
Trust the metaphorZ.
the gloves were off, and everyone understood
In Dutch: we have no ass to do (sitting on our hands) and throw your ass against the trough (being uncooperative).
based autistic king
>Imagine explaining that shit to someone "no in the know".
Reminds me of an anon I know outside PrepHole. He was on a first date, spilled his spaghetti, then proceeded to tell his date his spilled his spaghetti, and then had to educate her on the history of the spaghetti meme and its meaning.
I can't believe I can actually understand most of this machine-translated abortion, this war has been going on for way too long.
It's not even machine translated. Some anons actually tried to fit every single bit of Russian "language" into a single post.
Russians have goofy purple prose, and that is the mockery of it where all the silly sayings are jammed together.
>The Ukrainian ass is in the ass.
>On a personal note, the Plywood Marshall is a condom who wags the dog. The two faced goat is rushing on four chairs to the planet of pink ponies
Feels like i'm trying to decipher some OG Qanon shit
You know, you could look into getting it printed out on one of those bathroom rugs.
Why would one subject himself to Russian brain rot every time they take a shit?
the poop is in the ass, and everything will be understood
>the arrival caused 50 200s and 400 300s
I know we all know what 200s and 300s mean but stop for a moment to think how ridiculous that would sound to someone who doesn't follow the war
>planet of pink ponies
Damn it reminded me of girkin..
apparently he appeared in court today. charge was "inciting extremism" or something along those lines.
SO he hasn't been disappeared. Everyone's favourite doomposter is at least alive. That may change once he's gulag'd though.
Just need to strike up a pen-pal relationship to get direct doomposting from the source.
We all miss him
C'mon. Cheer up
Panic status?
no panic in verbove.
the map room of the dog cocked olga have missed geography class, there is no difficulties in verbove
Eyebow status ?
Piqued.
And the eggs?
Over easy
God damn, can’t wait until we get updates. Some kind of belreakthrough but of sure how far.
>3 months of MUH UKRAINE BREAKING THROUGH RUSSIAN LINES nothingburgers
This is literally the same of the 9 months of " MUH RUSSIA CAPTURE BAKHMUT ANYDAY "
Both sides in this war are just pathetic
>muh both sides.
hello sir
I fucking love nebulous Russian proverbs.
what's happening? is Ukraine making a breakthrough or are the Russians engaging in defense-in-depth?
>Russians
>engaging in strategy
Take a guess
>is Ukraine making a breakthrough
Since the Russians aren't shelling to the south of Verbove, I'm guessing no. Probably some Russian infantry colonel fucked an artillery colonel's favorite catamite without paying for it.
>Since the Russians aren't shelling to the south of Verbove
but videos show that they ARE shelling south of Verbove
No, they're shelling east of Verbove.
Who's on first?
Russians are too dug-in for a breakthrough there, those lines are being well reinforced by taking from other areas of the front. Thats how the Kharkiv breakthrough happened, if anything you can expect one from somewhere like Bakhmut.
Russians are shelling the ratnest vatniks with Ukrainians get close.
The vatniks in the trenches are bait.
It's not an accident its been pretty common. You can see Ukrainian advanced on video into these forest areas.
They grab and bite. Meaning they grab the ratnest vatniks, the Russians launch grads at the ratnik trenches
A Chechen got shot at, so they were forced to call in Broken Arrow.
ukrainians doing their basic manpower depletion strat
1. arty the place
2. drive to trench
3. drop 50 grenades on the surviving mobiks
4. scoot outta there in less than 10 min
5. watch as russians bomb their own defense installations in hopes they can hit something
6. wait 'til mobik reinforcements repopulate the trench
7. rinse and repeat.
This, somehow, works. N° 1 reason why russians called the reserves recently.
mobik officer just didn't know about it for some reason.
Ukraine changed to these tactics after the fabled 'maneuver' warfare that unidentified Western officers and officials demanded, got BTFOd by minefields dozens of km in length and hundreds of meter deep, and the lack of air superiority. These small scout, shoot and scoot tactics are allowing them to progress slowly and steadily.
>defense-in-depth
The cock does not know how deep the ass goes, comrade. He is measuring our eggs and coming up short. In due time, everyone will know everything.
The eggs are in the ass
The eyebrow has been burned off
The moon has a new crater
The priggy is gone to the ziggy
Toads have been wrestled
Line has been drawn on the previous line
The bridge is submissive
The leopard has eaten the face
The orb is no longer here
>The orb is no longer here
fugg, where the hell is it then?!!
They are rotating troops out every 16 days to 6 weeks to prevent fatigue and noncombat casualties.
Ukrainians have an industrialized military now. This is just another day for them now nothing special. They are fine on reserves. The skill parity between Russians and Ukrainians soldiers is like toddlers vs professional killers. Most Russians can't even properly call in artillery, do field medicine, mortar work or any kind of mechanical training. They just get guns and told kind of his to shoot. They don't know how to treat a gun shot, fix their vehicles or guns or use any kind of artillery. Fuck they can't even read elevation maps seeing how they didn't know to use hills in combat.
how do they expect to win with 'soldiers' like that?
>they expect to win
Why are you assuming this?
The failure to rotate troops properly was a major flaw with the Germans in both world wars. German trenches were outfitted with robust barracks and amenities not because they cared about their men, but because they were expected to remain at their positions for months at a time. In contrast, the Entente troops, with their more rudimentary fortifications, were only meant to stay there for a week or so before being rotated back to somewhere more comfortable or getting leave at a city.
The Russians are even worse off, of course, given that they don't get ANY amenities at all. They just get plonked in a position and are told to hold it or die. Not 'die trying', if they leave they will be fucking shot.
Entente troops had the resources to dig in better but shite leadership didn't care if they fell ill or were poorly protected.
So when there's striking of the eastern outskirts of the town, presumably because Ukes are advancing, what's happening there? Are Ukes trying to maneuver and get out of barrage? Are they taking cover and trying to survive the shelling? Are they storming Russian positions between the rockets?
In general, not this one instant.
At the very start of the counteroffensive they would maneuver away, drive one field to the side and attack again. Issue was they would run into a fresh minefield and have no line charges left. This was the time when first leopard losses started skyrocketing so I assume they don't do that anymore
Grads are imprecise and area weapons. The Ukrainians have broken through in force and the Russians dont exactly know where they are.
Is this going to lead to something changing or is it another year of stalemate?
Isolationists are retarded. Head in the sand is retarded. It's a small world these days, nothing has nothing to do with us.
You realize that if US drops the ball on Ukraine, every country in Eastern Europe and Scandinavia starts a nuclear program, right?
not just the scandies and eastern europe, the morons, the nips and the rest of europe to.
>nuclear armed turky and nuclear armed Greece
oh what a wonderful time it would be
Like India and Pakistan but somehow smaller, hairier and more retarded.
They're not intellectually capable of understanding second order effects of actions (or repeat propaganda aimed at people who are incapable of the same), this actually explains a lot.
We'd only drop the ball because of the ridiculous fatalism of our politicians and media. Anyone who pays attention can see the Ukrainians are winning.
Worse than that, it would show the US as a toothless, unreliable ally that can be easily subverted by shitposting and mass media. The USA's lack of commitment since the much lauded Lend Lease act is already the equivalent of geopolitical suicide, if we leave Ukraine it's basically Gotterdammerung. Might as well pack up and start setting timecapsules with history books, because it's going to be so over.
>the US as a toothless, unreliable ally that can be easily subverted by shitposting and mass media.
It literally is though. Or did you sleep through the last 50 years?
Dumbfuck, you realize that just because Obama took office, we didn't stop fighting in the Middle East, right? And you realize Trump was the one who got the ball rolling on sending weapons to the Ukies? Foreign policy tends to carry over between Presidencies, even if there's a drawdown in support it won't happen until at least the '26 midterms. Also every candidate with a snowball's chance in hell at winning is going to continue supporting Ukraine.
Actually that's completely incorrect.
Why are you.. doing this
The unit responsible for the BUCHA massacre is moving into the South (76th Guards Air Assault Division).
I hope the Ukrainians annihilate it from existence as punishment. Wipe it off the face of the Earth.
Post-script: I'm really hoping the Ukrainians cluster-munition the fuckers. A unit responsible for slaughtering civilians deserves only the "best" form of summary judgement.
I hope they take a lot of prisoners
so that they can have it on tape as they drag those wastes of air in front of a court and get them to confess
but I'm willing to settle for long and painful deaths for them
Russians typically use elite units for counterattacks. The unit can be tricked into launching an assault at the wrong time.
I'm pretty sure they've already had the shit smashed out of them during the route from Izium and I think they got sent to Bakhmut after that.
TZD
TZD.
who is that man and has someone shot him yet?
Christopher Cantwell. Had his heyday when the alt-right were big, became famous as the "Crying Nazi" because of a video where he, as you may have guessed, blubbered like a Kabuki actress.
many such quislings
I sincerely with death and misfortune upon him. what a repulsive cretin
because he is le bazed and trad z
>blubbered like a Kabuki actress.
KEK
Least retarded cuckservative.
This guy must be a schizo, or drank way too much from the conspiracy kool-aid. There's no other way
>1 year ago blah blah girls shot dead
Oh that's horrible
>down syndrome
Actually they did a favor for the parents. Imagine having to take care of a downie for 40+ years
TZD
>TZD
The Russians have been sending out shitty conscripts who are supposed to be road builders and hole diggers into the rat hole trenches to die as bait.
Once Ukrainians enter and the Russians here they immediately start shelling in their own men's positions. Couple videos on K have shown that for 2 months running now. It's the *bite and hold* routine. If you are a Russian conscripts who was told you will be doing road work or supply work you will be sent out as bait.
The Vatniks are deploying the Bucha Massacre scum into the fray now. They're desperate to stop the Ukrainians, so much so they're deploying one of their last elite units.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12452445/Russia-deploys-elite-unit-frontline-stop-counter-offensive-south-76th-Guard-Air-Assault-Division.html
I hope they get them alive and hand them to us. As in Americans. Tajikistan has places for them. Little dog cages, Polly princess dresses and tea parties listening to Genie in A Bottle by christian Aguilera for days. Nice little social parties that never end and everyone has to be nice or they get locked in a meter by meter box in a freezer for an hour. Everyone gets locked in if one girl turns into a sassy bitch. Good old days man haha. Polly princesses giving pillow parties out to jihadist was a good time
Here's a source so I don't sound like a B's artist
https://www.vox.com/2014/12/11/7375961/cia-torture-music
Genie in a bottle, never ending tea parties, dog cages, dresses and ice cream only diets for weeks. I helped deliver ice cream pallets to random Stan's and never knew until later the cia was force feeding jihadist ice cream as a wayof counter intuitive torture. I was just a random airman unloading
"Oh you like ice cream?"
gives a whole other meaning to "here comes the ice cream barge"
I thought we were delivery ice cream to secret squirrels and fobs. There was other things but it was alot if ice cream that had to be flown in ever couple of weeks
Of* my bad.
Imagine the unholy shits they had from eating noting but dairy and tea for weeks on end.
We have a great opportunity to really turn the screw on a regime hostile to us and our interests. It would be ridiculous to spurn this extremely cheap opportunity as you would have us do. Ukrainian independence has always been a bare minimum, not the gold medal prize.
We need to ramp up support to Ukraine.
We need a REAL ally in Europe.
Eastern Europe secretly (and not so secretly in some cases) hates the EU, are more useful than Africa, and don't have Balkanesque universal self-hate or as many eternal moslims warring with eternal inquisitors.
Encouraging the formation of SPURDO (Slavo-Polish United Reciprocal Defense Organization) and acting as its guarantor- and discount arms dealer- would be a great step to ensuring a "multipolar" world literally never happens, perfidious albion style.
All it takes to mandate to that glorious future of eternal peace in Europe, enforced from even further abroad, is snapping Russia in half. Why waste the opportunity?
Eastern Europe are far more promising allies because they grasp the Russian threat.
When you sign on the dotted line to help keep that sovereignty of a nation for giving up 300+ thermo nuclear warheads you better fucking step up.
Or EVERY Nation will know the only way to keep your land is to have nukes because the USA are just lier's and can not be trusted.
>my tax dollars
Uncle Sam doesn't accept rupies, Rajeesh
I like how you keep changing, first you don't care at all about the war and it's a complete waste, now you say we did a great job so we should stop, anyone with a brain realizes that if russia gets to freeze the conflict, they'll be back in 5 years with more experience and more dangerous, you have to go away the way in and destroy the cancer fully or it will grow back.
>while people starve due to rising food prices
let me guess the potato harvest failed in ohio oblast
Idaho Oblast's ass is in the ass and Biden's eyebrow is raised.
What is the context of ass in the ass?
A play on some of the colorful flourishes of language favored by Russkie milbloggers. I don't remember the original version, if someone posted it I'd be very grateful.
Russian is a bastardized slavic version of Nadsat. It's less of a language, and more of a code of metaphors to determine if someone is 'Russian', or someone who should be looked at with distrust or a lesser. That's why translations of Russian look so unbelievably bizarre. They're choked with slang and innuendo.
The context of 'the ass is in the ass' came from an intercepted message from some mobik back to Russia. They had been asked what the Bakhmut situation was, and the term he used was 'the ass is in the ass'. Remember, the reason why pro-Russian bots constantly spam 'ACK!' images and screech about trannies is because a huge part of Russian culture is focused around the concept sodomy and ones ability to cover it up. Every accusation is a confession coming from them. Saying 'the ass is in the ass' means, 'things are so bad, even our bad days are having bad days.'
how is projection so engrained in a culture that it becomes a social norm? how do things get this bad?
It's exactly because of how shit Russian life is. When you have nothing but Russian propaganda to live off your entire developing life, but see how horrible your conditions are, especially when you see western media, even sanitized version of it, your only conclusion must be that those people must be even worse than 'you' are, and worse than the people making your life so terrible, their leaders even doubly so. Therefore, there's no problem at all at accusing them of your own crimes. They're worse by default, after all. Anything you've done pales in comparison to what a western degenerate does before breakfast.
The way Russians communicate among themselves and with other species, the use of language to get a banana, the kind of social culture they have created is a subject for a separate academic study.
Every accusation is a confession, an endless projection of themselves on others, a denial of reality and substitution of their own reality through an endless repetitive stream of information (firehose of falsehood), leveling of the concept of "truth" as unattainable and as a consequence denying the existence of truth, constant stealing and appropriation of technological and cultural fruits of others, the language of physical power as the only universal language of argumentation and accepting ideas, assuming that everyone around them thinks just like them, apathetic atomized strictly hierarchal militaristic society with learned helplessness and probably developed Stockholm syndrome for authoritarian rulers. Yeah.
>Russians talk like Democrats
Very astute observation of you anon. They also have a penchant for impotently threatening to nuke their opponents.
404 correlation not found.
I see this "lies as bullets" sort of communication being used among lots of authoritarian groups/governments, but it seems to be worst among the Russian state and its supporters.
Most retarded take on here. Well done retard.
The whole (former) Soviet bloc suddenly becomes slightly more understandable.
Kinda sad that Poland and Romania have not really recovered.
It's not this deep - people lie all the time, be it in the west or the east. But it's not a typical 'lie' where you want people to believe you - it's more of a lie where you know it's a lie, your supporters know its a lie, your opponents know its a lie, but somehow calling you out on a lie is not a viable tactic. Like, here we have a politician who's running for a higher seat, and claims that one of his biggest achievements is bringing tons of EU funds to the region. But it's easily verifiable that he hasn't done a single thing - yet no one calls him out on that, his supporters support him, his opponents oppose him, and bringing proof that it's a lie is not going to make his opponents oppose him harder, and his supporters will entrench themselves even further.
Lmao, "concentrate on the home front" concern troll, its like a nickel per american taxpayer to ruin a nation claiming to be an enemy superpower. I hope we give the ukies NGAD and watch them phaser burn the shit off every russian mouth. In the long run, all this does is reinforce us supremacy for future generations.
Honestly, it's the same gays who say "mUh tAx dOlLaRs, sPeNd iT oN aMeRiCaNs" who then turn around and scream about how much they hate welfare programs and social spending, and want rich people to get more tax cuts.
It's unironically both sides.
>Republicans
>"SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON UKRAINE INSTEAD OF THE BORDER"
>Democrats
>"SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN IRAQ INSTEAD OF HEALTHCARE"
This is all political.
Fuck 'em both.
Support Ukraine and blow up Russia. That is the only acceptable policy.
I agree, it's political retardation. I only thing some people are latching onto "wAh sPeNd iT oN aMeRiCaNs" it as rationalization to be a turbo-contrarians. To most of this same demographic, the idea of a Red Dawn-esque struggle against a bunch of subhuman invaders is something they secretly fetishize; thus the cognitive dissonance to disagree with what's "popular" requires some weird insincere emotional appeal.
And the media has been inexcusably defeatist compared to the Youtube analysts. What a bunch of bitches.
>"OMG it's taken two months! Ukraine must be losing!"
The difference being that if you then tried to spend that money on healthcare, the Dems would vote for it instead of calling you a commie.
>please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more >please don't send more
we get it russia is completely fucked already. but wait, there's gotta be a lot more coming.
You realize that America doesn't send that much money by comparison to a lot of our partners, right? When they announce a 50 million dollar aid package or whatever, it's not fucking pallets of twenty dollar bills being sent to Zelenskyy in a C-130, it's usually in the form of vehicles, weapons, ammo, or spare parts, usually the dollar value to purchase that stuff brand new. But most of it isn't brand new, most of it is a few decades old and about to be decommissioned anyway. Now instead of decommissioning our old toys that we don't want anymore, we can just send them East to do what they were meant to do; kill Russian bastards dead.
Total Zigger Death.
Muscovia Delenda Est.
as far as i'm aware, current spending is something like $20 billion in cash assistance to ukraine and $45 billion in production contracts for factories in alabama and texas
So we've spent a comparative pittance on degrading the capabilities of a nation hell bent on causing trouble for us and our allies, making them look like fools on the world stage, and fucking their demographics even harder than they were already? That sounds like a screaming deal to me.
>$45 billion in production contracts
A shitload of manufacturing jobs for Americans? If this war hadn't started we'd have made one up because that's some good domestic policy.
Hell yeah brother
>A shitload of manufacturing jobs for Americans? If this war hadn't started we'd have made one up because that's some good domestic policy.
tfw destroying Russia is also building back better.
Anon these are leftists who hate anything that makes the MIC happy and Trump supporters who hate anything that makes someone with a D by their name happy.
And third worlders who hate it when America gets to do good
If they live in this country they're all traitors and should be deported and stripped of citizenship.
>You realize that America doesn't send that much money by comparison to a lot of our partners, right?
To illustrate this Anon's point, see picrel.
holy shit, I'm Portuguese and I'm sorry for this shitbox of a country. SHAME SHAME SHAME
>usually the dollar value to purchase that stuff brand new
Pentagon already did a few corrections like "oh shit, we've calculated the total price like the shit was brand new, not 50yo. We did some corrections, now we have 5bil more to spare"
Okay. I'm an American and I can tell you aren't. Maybe you live in America.
This Ukraine war can end.
America is coming for Russia. Because what the fuck are they going to do. They have valuable land and are rivals. Fuck them. Drive them into the ground until nothing is left to rival America. Then take it all. Because it's our FUCKING WORLD.
We take what we want then get bored and leave. The only way for us not to fuck you is ally with us.
Russia is Americas property now. Putin is just trying to get control back.
How does the government sending old, already-bought-and-paid-for-ages-ago shit that would need to be decommissioned later anyway stop them from tackling America's domestic problems?
"Joe Biden is an old retard!"
Yeah? Was he NOT an old retard before Lend-Lease? Did you like his policies or his handling of the issues before Ukraine aid? You didn't? Then why fixate on Ukraine aid?
your problems at home and sending some outdated gear to ukraine have nothing to do with eachother
policy change will fix your issues at home, not a couple hundred bil in aid
You are not American.
>guy calmly explains why he thinks what he thinks and is happy with other people doing what they think
>should I argue his points? should I discuss the merits of his argument or show him mine?
>no, no... I'll just say he is not american hehe....
Pretty bold to take the "vets and schoolkids should fucking starve" position so openly.
Well gentlemen, the buck has been broken. I say again, the buck has been broken.
>>Has this been achieved?
>Yes
It hasn't been achieved. Russia still has enough of Ukraine to serve as a springboard for the next time they want to take another bite in 3-5 years. We leave the Ukrainians out to dry, and it'll be plain for all the world to see that you can redraw the map with a sword. And when that happens, all bets are off.
Correct. We need to crush Russia NOW. It's the only way the fuckers learn, through having reason bashed into their skull.
>one minute apart from the last post
You thought you were slick
I wasn't trying to be "slick" moron, I just didn't hit refresh before seeing all of that when I made my first post so I had to do a follow up.
>Therefore we can stop now.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1) Correct
2) True, Christ is King
3) What are you talking about moron?
4) Cope, Seethe
5) Mald, Dilate
have a nice day
Total Zigger Death.
Muscovia Delenda Est.
Protectionism is self-defeating. It only weakens you against threats that will attack you, no matter how hard you try to appease them. Also, you're making the fallacy that a nation can ONLY focus on one thing, and one thing alone as if it's an autistic child. It's a government. With many branches, offices, etc. They can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, regardless of whatever the National Review tells you.
The federal government shouldnt say who can do what with their body
The federal government shouldn't be saying what substances you can ingest
The federal government shouldn't be limiting what firearms you can hold
The federal government shouldnt be allowing imminent domain
The federal government for all you leftist who have a problem with what I just said
The federal government isn't your messiah
East of Verbove would be mighty impressive, so far I've only seen shelling west of Verbove though, if they manage to get through Verbove though and to the heights around it that'd be a major local success though. Still not a massive breakthrough but it'd definitely be a good step forwards.
>Again, please explain to me why it is our job to get back every square inch of Ukraine for Ukraine?
You are a fucking retard. The only way for Russia to be truly punished and collapse or at least renounce at its aspirations geopolitically is to be soundly defeated, not to retreat and try later. The defeat must be total.
You have the brain of a child if you are being honest, anon.
>Therefore we can stop now
that's not how it works when you're a superpower kiddo
>Therefore why is stepping back and going 'Okay, lets put that to the side, we've prevented the reformation of the USSR there, now, what about X problem on home soil.....' so bad? I don't get it.
Because it's in bad faith. You don't actually care about those domestic issues. If the government turned around and tried to put money towards infrastructure or mental health or homeless vets, you'd call it communism and federal overreach.
Fuck off. Retards like you is why the US has the fucking reputation of never finishing shit and constantly dragging shit out into decades instead of just going full effort and sitting through until the end.
Because that's what the western world needs: >another century of frozen conflicts
>drawn-out wars that leave economies under constant tension
>a reputation of being the only superpower with a 5 minute attention span that you can just wait out
>an entire continent worth of allies who now know any agreement, even the ones with allied civilian lives at stake, is dependent on whatever symbol politics are the order of the day with short-sighted populists
And please tell me which problems are the ones that would demand a superpower drop the not even .4% of it's GDP spent across two years to spend on it (with most even being already spent years ago on supplies in storage)? The US spent 10 times the current expenditure of all Ukrainian aid on fucking bank bailouts in 2008.
So what problem needs that money, and why can't it possibly come out of any other place?
No. We run then into the fucking ground even after the war ends and make a profit. A message must be sent to the world.
>The threat was TOTAL ANNEXATION by Russia. This has been prevented. If you think Russia is going to be rolling into Lviv any time soon, you're just a vatnik troll trying to pretend not to be.
You are arguing for Russia to hold what they got, reorganize and try in a second moment, and in the meanwhile give a signal internationally that such behavior brings results.
Now if you are some dumb tankie that sucks off Russia, I get it. If you are not, you are a genuine cretin.
>The goal of preventing annexation or puppet government of Ukraine has been achieved
Parts of Ukraine are still annexed. Weak bait.
> containing threats beyond what is reasonable is an issue
this is what you fail to grasp
if you just let the russians take 1/5 of ukraine and then let them keep it because "oh well there is still 4/5 of ukraine left". Then there are a lot of countries around the world that are gonna be looking across their borders at the territories they dispute and that is going to create a whole load if other wars that the usa will now be getting dragged into.
The point of aiding ukrain is to make it clear that the rules are as such and that we will enforce them so don't even get any ideas.
Your reasoning is "well the problem was a leaking pipe. I taped it over, problem fixed. Can we now discus the real problem, what we are doing for dinner." a bit like only taking meds for the symptoms of a disease but never addressing the disease it's self.
You'd save a Washinton now knowing it will cost you a Benjamin in a week.
a stitch in time saves nine, as they say
and the stich is making damn sure no one else gets the idea that they can just go about redrawing their borders without us giving them the go ahead.
no "we have the power and the usa won't do shit"
no "it will be done before they can act"
no "oh but they will get bored"
no "well it will cost them to much"
no "oh but their ambassador didn't tell us not to invade"
you let that slip and you get chaos and the people that will have put things in order will be us. Because if we don't the chinks or other thirdies will and you can be damn sure that their vision of "order" is what ever hurts us the most.
>if you just let the russians take 1/5 of ukraine and then let them keep it because "oh well there is still 4/5 of ukraine left". Then there are a lot of countries around the world that are gonna be looking across their borders at the territories they dispute and that is going to create a whole load if other wars that the usa will now be getting dragged into.
Nah.
It will just give russia time to take a breather and try the same shit again in a few years. Everyone knows that.
TzD is the way, the truth and the death.
Correct. Russia will try again if we let it.
Russians haven't remotely learned their lesson.
>The threat was TOTAL ANNEXATION by Russia. This has been prevented. If you think Russia is going to be rolling into Lviv any time soon, you're just a vatnik troll trying to pretend not to be. Russia is not going to do that. If Russia wants to burn itself down to embers and then crush those embers and them piss on the cold remains of their nation they can do that. If Ukraine wants to keep fighting, they can. We've given them plenty of stuff to do that and other nations have (or say they will). Therefore why is stepping back and going 'Okay, lets put that to the side, we've prevented the reformation of the USSR there, now, what about X problem on home soil.....' so bad? I don't get it.
i swear there is a specific fallacy that exists for this type of denial
has you pegged perfectly
>Because it's in bad faith. You don't actually care about those domestic issues
>Yes, US don't send more. Correct. If the rest want to or if Germany wants to actually honor their pledges, that's fine with me.
>The threat was TOTAL ANNEXATION by China of Taiwan
>they have just taken some of Taiwan and have dug in
>we have blunted the chinese for now, lets address domestic issues for a while and if in 10 year the Taiwanese are still holding on we can go give them a hand, maybe
The goal isn't to "Preserve Ukraine's independence" but to "Perserve Ukraine's territorial status.
That's not happening as long as Russia is in 1/5th of Ukraine.
If Mexico somehow got all of South America to team up with us, and invaded the country we wouldn't tell NATO "Alright it's good now we can stop, we pushed the Mexicans out of Austin they can just keep New Mexico and Arizona" because they didn't reach DC.
All Russia does is start shit because it never got over the "I'm not the USSR anymore REEEEEE!!!!!!!" bullshit.
Slap the bitch.
>muh tax dollars
actually a report came out about that earlier that stated tax payers have paid 40-60 bucks over this entire thing. Which is crazy to think about. Because I would pay 500 personally to kill more ziggers and 5K to kill 4chancels
>If the Europeans want to continue spending their money on helping Ukraine
>while people starve due to rising food prices
Food prices rose because of the war, by supporting Ukraine you support the security of global food chains because only Russia uses energy and food as political leverages. By destabilizing the world you won't make your domestic policy any easier.
speaking of. u see where russians are bitching about the prices of soap and toothpaste rocketing up? it's about to get real tense for putin lmao
Oh God, please post, the schadenfreude will help me beat my personal bests at the gym tonight.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ruble-failing-consumers-cutting-back-on-basic-goods-2023-8
>https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ruble-failing-consumers-cutting-back-on-basic-goods-2023-8
30p Lee is probably standing and clapping reading that.
i dont know who that is
>russians are bitching about the prices of soap and toothpaste
Oh come on you can be more believable than that. Russians don't even use toilet paper much less soap and toothpaste.
i assumed it meant muscovites
I don't care what you want, I hope your home gets foreclosed on.
Teaching the Ukies on how to identify Russia doing exactly that. Pretty sure the 2014 invasion would have gone worse if Budanov's predecessor didn't have assistance from US glowies.
Nothing because the CIA wasn't in Ukraine. Maiden was about the EU, not NATO, those 50,000 Ukrainians in the street weren't CIA agents.
The CIA can barely get Arab tier 3rd worlders to rebel without them fucking it up, quit assuming that Ukrainians need the CIA to convince them that tying their country to Russia just gets them enslaved to Russia. All they have to do is look at a picture of Russia to know that.
>All they have to do is look at a picture of Russia to know that.
is russia basically new jersey but bigger?
It's not even bigger. Russia is literally two cities (Moscow, St. Bedersperg) and what amounts in the analogy to the Catskills, and all of the inbreds therein.
>The CIA can barely get Arab tier 3rd worlders to rebel without them fucking it up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring
Why are you making my point for me?
>the cia is powerful enough to get millions of muslims across the middle east to all begin protesting at the same time
I wish the CIA had this much power. The US would control the entire world by now.
>ignoring the previous 8 years of support
8 years of MREs
>The threat was TOTAL ANNEXATION by Russia.
No, it's not. Any change in borders brought on by use of force is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable.
Allowing a country to get away with that sort of thing unravels the very basis of the current world order. It would send a signal to upstart autocrats everywhere that any land grab short of full annexation of another country is acceptable internationally and that's an incredibly dangerous precedent.
You're also making the mistake of assuming that a county cannot maintain a strong foreign policy while dealing with domestic issues. Governments aren't individuals with singular goals, and the budget as it stands now has not been anywhere close to majorly impacted by support to Ukraine.
I don't believe you're a shill or being dishonest like the other anons think, but you are majorly mistaken
>totally corrupt russian puppet president says they're going to join the EU if he gets elected
>he gets elected
>well actually we're not and by the way we're doing some shady gas deal with russia :^)
>this is the last straw for the ukrainian people who wanted to be part of the civilized world and stop being corrupt oligarch's playground shithole that is forever a 2nd world country
only a russian fetal alcohol addled brain could look at that series of events and conclude the CIA was behind it. Because only the russian mind is incapable of imagining a country that wants to be free. To them the idea of freedom and democracy is fake and CIA invented, and some weird way to mind control people. Because they live in a country where "democracy" is a total joke and basically just used to mind control people. The slav brain is incapable of anything but the most extreme projection of their shitty alcoholic values onto the rest of the world
Everything you say is true but the CIA are certainly going to have been active.
Not that they made the Euromaidan happen but they'd have provided training in organising and campaigning to leaders in the movement which they did for the Arab Spring as well.
They may well not have identified themselves as CIA, they'd be some pro-Democracy foundation, the foundation themselves may not even know they're CIA backed.
>Certainly going to have been active
>They would have provided
>They would be
All these weasel words to transform theoretical possibility into fact.
>All these weasel words to transform theoretical possibility into fact.
Sure, because we're not going to know anything any time soon but if they weren't providing aid to a potential democracy to assist them in breaking away from a strategic rival then what the fuck are they even for?
This is literally their mission and they'd be incompetent at it if they weren't active.
And we *do* know that they were active in quite similar activities all over the place, this is likely to just be kept quiet to prevent Russia making a whole narrative about it whereas the Arab Springs are over and either succeeded or failed but aren't controversial.
>And we *do* know that they were active in quite similar activities all over the place
All I know is your an idiot pimping a kremin narrative
And now we're down to 4chantier shit flinging instead of understanding nuance and the realities of geopolitics so I'm out.
You don't have any nuances. You're an outsider a retard who knows fuck all and nothing beyond mumbling CIA.
there is always some secret narrative that only they are privy to, and somehow only favours them.
>only a russian fetal alcohol addled brain could look at that series of events and conclude the CIA was behind it. Because only the russian mind is incapable of imagining a country that wants to be free. To them the idea of freedom and democracy is fake and CIA invented, and some weird way to mind control people. Because they live in a country where "democracy" is a total joke and basically just used to mind control people.
>Everything you say is true but the CIA are certainly going to have been active.
>Not that they made the Euromaidan happen but they'd have provided training in organising and campaigning to leaders in the movement which they did for the Arab Spring as well.
Yeah? Opfreedom,oplibya,opsyria here, not CIA kys
>a democratically elected government?
A president, who is from Donetsk, was in jail, got congratulations from Putin about winning the elections before the results were announced (in 2004), his presidential opponent suddenly got poisoned, became president in 2008, could barely speak any Ukrainian, had a golden toilet in his residency, failed to deliver EU agreements, had beaten protesters, shot at protesters and as a result 100 were dead, escaped to Russia, the Ukrainian parliament removed him from office because he was physically unable to do his job and appointed the head of the parliament as a temporary president.
How did the CIA do this?
CIA didn't do shit. The corrupt president did it to himself, But the government never changed and removed Yanukovich from power when he abandoned his duties as president. The whole maiden thing was natural and in response to a president backing off of a deal that he said he will do.
>And that taxpayer money could be spent on other things.
Where do you need artillery shells and HIMARS at the moment? Where would you like to spend this money (.4% of GDP) which is already in the form of military equipment?
>My deflection about America hasn’t worked
>Let’s mention Germany instead
>defense spending being spent on weapons
>but what about the price of my over priced and corrupt health care and the price of my price gouged groceries from companies that are reporting record profits while fucking you in the ass
>this is a funding ukraine problem!
I'm afraid not. Once the war's over all Russian women under 25 will be sold off to Chinese businessmen and CCP officials to provide brides for their microdicked ricecel offspring.
Fuck. Oh well, probably for the best anyhow. Slavic women will fuck your life up if you don't know how to handle them,
Already happening
Ziggers and chinkoids are both of Mongol rapestock, you can't overwrite retard rape genes by more inbreeding.
Ivan here. No panic.
Looks like russians have left Verbove
That's an old update when Robotnik was still contested/occupied.
>Thanks to people like Oliver Antony waking people up to how much the US is wasting on this pointless war
Anthony dropped out of high school in 2010 at the age of 17 and likes to tell people he has mental health issues. his qualification and opinion is based on playing a guitar
>his experience is based on playing a guitar
I hate hippies
He's no hippy just a tard
Obama refused to sell Ukraine Javelin or even small arms. sell not give. Yet you think teh CIA started Euromaiden. yeah you're a tard. If Anything the Germans and the US were busy telling Kyiev to shut the fuck up and do what Putin wanted because as usual the USA was more concerned with rioting morons (caused by Russian social media subversion efforts, including hiring black Africans to shill lies at American blacks via social media like facebook). If it has not been for covid the BLM riots would have covered their invasion again and no one in teh US would have given a fuck because they would have been busy reading Russian spam about the boog and US civil war while some retards from far left kremlin run groups took a knee to the local crack addicts burning down their town cop shop. Everything you say is wrong.
yeah this, Eastern Europe has long tradition of protests, Ukraine themselves had wave of protests in 2004 that ousted their at the time president, if someone claims that CIA had anything to do with Maidan protests I immediately know they have little idea about Eastern Europe.
Yeah?
Again Obama refused to sell Ukraine Javelin or even small arms. sell not give them.
>The moscow appointed communist dictators of former USSR and warsaw pact Russian occupied nations would have been just fine but the evil CIA were responsible for revolutions
yeah?
Reddit spacing
>Advocating for less kino on PrepHole
what i want to know is how the super competent cia somehow managed to let Manafort elect both Yakuyovich and Trump. seems a bit silly
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based and trad thirdie ziggers saving porn and spamming it for 5$ a day
There's no white women in American, she must be a Russian escort.
LMAO, the shitskin got mad and started posting moron dicks! Enjoy the vacation, you turd world 4chanchud.
yeah uh i dont think we should stop with the bbc jokes
You third world shit don't understand what a 1st world nation like the US is.
Point one it is not cash but old equipment that war built and designed to fuck the Russian army. They are no longer costing the us to keep them maintained and for most of it disposal cost.
Even if it was pure cash it is a fuck rounding error. The total military aid given is around 50billion. Just one year of US GDP is 23.23T.
> The war that is breaking Russia is costing the US 0.003%
Any fuck that says that it too much is a 80 IQ miss abortion or just a Russian cock sucker.
>https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696931698825437269
>https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1696933019792138395?s=20
Dead links, is there any other source?
all still alive for me anon
>promised ADDITIONAL HIMARS
Fuck yeah bro the performance of these has led to massive sales of these to countries like Poland.
Being a military sale there are huge taxes on them so we are recouping the build cost of the send HIMARS many times over.
You should at least have highschool math and econ education before you are 18 to post here.
>they'd have provided assistance and training to it.
Here comes the weasel words again.
Post hands, vatnig
>Kyiv in 3 days
to
>Pls no more aid, Ukraine is not going to lose anymore, pls sir I beg you
>The ukrainians have sent in their last reserves into the southern offensive hough
post challengers then
>they'd have provided assistance and training to it.
What kind of trainning?, stay on a square and chant slogans?.
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