Try to convince me otherwise

A country within the borders of the "Latin Crescent" would be an absolute monster from a strategic and military point of view.
Literally boogeyman for the entire northwestern part of the globe.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice fantasy you got there mate. Be a pity if I'd
    >sips tea
    >eats biscuit
    throw a spanner in the works.

    Also,
    >weapon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed, until the rise of the EU, the UK had a policy of trying to avoid the rise of a unified strong continental power since they fought the early Spanish empire. They did the same against the french, germans and russians at every turn. That's why people who doesn't understand why the UK/US fought against nazi germany are retarded.

      >spain
      >portugal
      >france
      >italy
      by our powers combined, we are the most mediocre military powers of the last two centuries

      what did France do in the last two centuries worth celebrating other than the Franco-Prussian war?

      I mean I guess you're right in that they defeated Prussia / nascent Germany, who went on to have an even more embarrassing military record than France

      nta, but there was a guy called Napoleon you may have heard of. Not to mention matching the germans again in WW1. And if France had been sucessful in their take over of Spain while avoiding spanish colonies becoming independent states, we would we all speaking french in the internet now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the UK had a policy of trying to avoid the rise of a unified strong continental power
        to be fair, from their point of view, it's just nipping a threat in the bud, because such an empire inevitably would set its sights on Britain next. they were being far-sighted.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Of course, I wasn't judging them. It made perfect sense for their interests and survival. The rest of european powers did pretty much the same in their own ways.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >until the rise of the EU
        keep telling yourself that

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As long as us mountain garden gnomes can remain neutral and don't have to join poor countries like France and Italy, why not?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >spain
    >portugal
    >france
    >italy
    by our powers combined, we are the most mediocre military powers of the last two centuries

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Including France?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what did France do in the last two centuries worth celebrating other than the Franco-Prussian war?

        I mean I guess you're right in that they defeated Prussia / nascent Germany, who went on to have an even more embarrassing military record than France

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >even more embarrassing military record than France
          France has a great military record.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >France has a great military record.
            They shit the bed in WW2 and their colonial wars (Indochina, Argelia...), so anglo-americans are never going to stop gloating about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, until the rise of the EU, the UK had a policy of trying to avoid the rise of a unified strong continental power since they fought the early Spanish empire. They did the same against the french, germans and russians at every turn. That's why people who doesn't understand why the UK/US fought against nazi germany are retarded.
            [...]
            [...]
            nta, but there was a guy called Napoleon you may have heard of. Not to mention matching the germans again in WW1. And if France had been sucessful in their take over of Spain while avoiding spanish colonies becoming independent states, we would we all speaking french in the internet now.

            >in the last two centuries
            Napoleon died over 200 years ago, Anon.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm still think 10 years ago was the 90s and "last century" the XIXth, heh

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I know that feel, but I have since moved on to thinking that 10 years ago was 2000. Which has also been false for over 10 years now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              France won WW1.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the Entente won WW1, France didn't lose.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The Anglo won WW2, but it would be stupid to pretend France didn't do most of the heavy lifting in WW1.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                France definitely pulled their weight, but acting like victory was assured without 1) the blockade and 2) the reinforcements is silly. it was a team victory.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Absent the RN, could the Imperial German Navy have blockaded France?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Depends partially on what you mean by "absent", I doubt GB would have let the North Sea Fleet through the channel without incident, and if GB stayed out of the war entirely it would have been possible for France to be supplied through the Suez Canal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Last time they tried doing a military campaign (with Britain even), they folded within weeks and called big daddy America to save them.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Northern European plane is a funnel leading straight into Paris. Other than that, yeah, it's pretty sweet.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Latin Cresent would be so powerful it would destroy Europe's economy every 20 years.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no romania
    Doomed to fail even before it even began

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    France would rather ally = control the comatose giant of germany than hitch themselves to mediocre latins.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >(at least) 9 languages
    >several majorly different cultures
    >several majorly different ethnic groups
    why are americans so completely ignorant of the reasons anytime Europe unified it was by force?
    this place would be a political and administrative nightmare. look up how many problems Belgium has with forming a government and multiply them by at least 3, because that is what you are looking at with this map.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian are the dominant languages in their countries and used in all administrative capacities without issue.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > in their countries
        note the THEIR there?
        a multilingual government is a fucking nightmare.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you answered yourself in the pic, idk what the 1874 one is, but western roman empire and french empire were both failures.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >big country good
    Get a load of this gay. The EU has made superstates in continental Europe obsolete. Balkanization is based.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what is the eu?

      The EU is basically the modern incarnation of the Roman Empire geopolitically
      It's even decently integrated, the only thing it really needs is for lingua franca to be more universally known (and I guess that's english?)
      Through the internet I'd also argue it has the same level of cultural influence, although it's more of a EU/US influence sphere since they're pretty aligned.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think it depends on if the EU can change its voting system and reign in the excesses of France, Germany, and the rivalry between them.

        I'm not sure if, as an American, I should be rooting for brexit or re-integration though. UK was probably better off in the EU. I don't know if it has the bargaining power to get what it wants out of trade outside of the EU. I get the sense that it's coasting off its human capital and its legacy as a financial center. Demographic collapse makes both of thse things incredibly fragile. But being outside of the EU means it's more flexible in its arrangements with us. Especially now that the EU has been looking to become more integrated in the face of challenges that have arisen with the war in Ukraine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As an American you should probably root for them being divided. While it makes Britain unquestionably weaker and less stable, a weaker, less stable Britain is more readily a US proxy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what is the eu?

      The EU can't even develop a fighter jet without several years delay because germany and france are bickering. IMO the correct choice would be to unite western europe into a super state, but balkanize it internally, into states of 10-15million people, which comes out 20-30 states.
      The thing is, there is always a large variety in political positions among the populace, and between different regions as well, but on a national level it's winner takes it all, so the voices of those people are currently lost on the european level and the differences between european states are exaggerated. For example a fair share of germans, especially in some states, are actually for nuclear power or against muslim immigration. But they're the national minority, so other euros only see that "germany" is against nukes and for muslims.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This way the EU works currently, the "winner takes it all" system of national governments, is IMO not a good system for any political entity that considers itself cooperative and irrevocably linked because as I said, voices are lost like that. It's a poor system for the US (not that I care) and a poor system for the EU.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what is the eu?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good borders, not quite so good internal geography. There are no interior water routes connecting the Atlantic and Med. There are mountains inhibiting internal movement (primarily the Pyrenees, but also within the center of France). Most of Spain is a wasteland, and most of Italy is too mountainous; not as bad as Japan, but facing somewhat similar challenges down the peninsula.

    In short, the geography is excellent for a Classical civilization, all the way to a Medieval one... but not so much for an Industrial power. Now, if there was a lake connecting the Seine (or Rhine) and the Rhone, and the French interior looked more like Iowa... then you'd have a massive economic and military powerhouse.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frangleterre would be a better option.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wtf

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Italo-French stuff like FREMMs and Asters are already kino af. Imagine, having this on a regular basis + more resources on development? Vgh...

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