>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
>Don't cowboy a revolver it's bad for the gun
>Don't shoot steel case it's bad for the gun
>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
What is some fudd-lore you know of that actually has some truth behind it? Does the "damage" of "mishandling" your firearm actually matter in the long run or is it just being over-cautious? What do you have to say about the actual people who are in the industry backing these opinions?
With steel case, I shoot steel case out of any cheap firearm like my glock, cheap AKs, chink shit, etc. but for my nicer firearms that I like I'm nice and only give them good brass if nothing more than to avoid feeding overall low quality ammo to a gun I like a lot. Steel case doesnt lead to faster wear on certain parts but in the long run the money you save by shooting it will easily pay for whatever parts need replacing in the shorter time.
>doesnt lead to faster wear
it DOES lead to it, typo.
I forget the Japanese term for it, but there's a Shinto belief that objects only gain a soul after 100 years. So new weapons are just tools, but your grampa's sword that stood the test of time has to be treated like a living thing. If it breaks you have to dispose of it respectfully like giving a person a funeral.
Tsukumogami.
Thanks, I'll try to remember it this time.
Like a robot gaining a soul? That could make hyperwar interesting/horrifying.
>from the 30's onwards
Do Americans actually call that an antique? In the old world it's just "vintage".
I first learned of it from another PrepHole thread. Can't remember which board.
>But today we know better because someone told me on an Anime website.
This is true of a frightening amount of my knowledge base. When we're old kids will ask, "where did you learn that?" and they'll think we're fucking with them because our answers are cryptic combinations of letters.
>Uncle Anon, where did you learn to sharpen knives so well?
>/k/
>and finely chop an onion with them?
>PrepHole
>and replace the glass in a window?
>PrepHole
>and make your gear changes so smooth?
>PrepHole
>and....
Given that the old world has banned nearly all modern guns and included early 20th century in ban that makes sense
Meanwhile, in an English antique shop, I see hand planes made in the 50s being called "antique".
This would make for an interesting Robocop-in-Japan or Terminator-in-Japan type scenario.
I can believe it. You walk into a (REAL) antique store and you can feel the weightiness of age of all the objects in there. The older the objects and the more adventures it's had the more karmons gather around it. Especially as it beginst to degrade (transition back into the ether). So the more cramped and crowded the store the more you feel it. In a small old world store it's a cacophony. (You might not get as big of a hit on those antique consignment warehouses in the US, I think it's because they're just too big and open air). And it's often US made crap from the 30's onwards so it's still a little too unripe. Give it a century or two. You either get this or you don't, that's fine, some are more sensitive to this than others so ymmv.
But there's definitely something to this. Anyway sorry for going on a tangent, what were we talking about? TikTok hammerdrop time? Those guys sound pretty buzzed hehe.
Don't pretend you knew about this before that stupid battle manga.
That’s pretty interesting. Something to ponder over.
What about all those post ww2 japanese swords that were melted down and tuned into girders and washers? Does the spirit continue? Do japanese worship apartment buildings, ships and cars because grandaddy's sword spirit is mixed up in them?
Well anon. How many years ago was WW2?
its not the steel case that is the problem, its the steel jacket that actually matters. If the copper wash isn't thick enough the steel jacket can wear barrels faster. Now that cheapo ammo is more rare it doesn't matter much.
Damn, you reminded me that I need to replace my springs. Shit thread btw
Springs get worn out from repeatedly being compressed and expanded, not from being compressed for long periods of time.
Loading a magazine to capacity one time puts very little wear on the spring.
>using guns are bad for the wear and tear parts of it
ya don't say
It's more like people telling you "this is terrible for the gun" without them actually explaining how other than "well aint it obvious!?".
>>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
top fudd-lore... There might be a gun or two that this is true but nothing new today.
>>Don't cowboy a revolver it's bad for the gun
Yes and it is dangerous
>>Don't shoot steel case it's bad for the gun
Sure a gun might shoot 75k rounds of brass buy only shoot 65k of steel. You'll save more money buy shooing steel cased ammo buying a new gun.
>>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
The spring wears out from compression and decompression cycles.
>>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
Same with the mags
>>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
Old guns this is true. And I've seen where an old gun the fire pin flattened out and got stuck from dry firing.
I don't know if hitting a primer would have saved the firing pin if the metal was so shit to begin with.
Lots of fudd lore comes from an old gun that needs to be treated one way because it's design sucked or the metallurgy sucked or the springs sucked. Every quirk of one gun was applied to all guns because no one knew any better. But today we know better because someone told me on an Anime website.
>>>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
its actually true for 1911 since it can fuck with the sear and then affect the trigger, at least on finely tuned professional guns
It is not true on 1911s. Chambering a cartridge negligibly impacts the slide velocity and if the gun could be damaged by such a minor increase then it could be damaged simply by firing. There is not one case where a 1911 has been damaged by the slide releasing without feeding a cartridge.
See
Yeah it’s horseshit. If this was true no 1911 in military service would ever have been operable.
They literally explain that milspec guns have high sear engagements, it’s nagger rigged trigger jobs that cheat with super low sear engagement to lighten the trigger have issues with this.
>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
True for some guns. On older rimfires there's often nothing stopping the firing pin from impacting the edge of the chamber which can deform it over time.
>top fudd-lore... There might be a gun or two that this is true but nothing new today.
1911s and other hammer fired guns.
Idiot. Its a 1911 thing that fucks with all 1911's. Maybe educate yourself a bit more before you spout off. Being immediately wrong males people not listen to anything else you have to say. Youre not worth further addressing. Wilson combat addresses how their guns get absolute fucked after being mistreated during every shot show on a video. Theres a string for you to follow.
Can you explain how this fucks them up? How much more energy is exerted on certain parts when dropping the slide when there's no round chambered vs when there is?
it fucks with the sear
if you have a light trigger, low sear engagement, it's an issue. milspec? not really.
>nooo my obsolete shit gun
yeah so like anon said it's only true of old garbage guns which includes all 1911s
>a gun over a century obsolete sets the standard for semi-autos
No
The only thing the 1911 really set was the basic pistol mechanism and controls. Brownings tilting barrel locking mechanism is the most popular pistol mechanism ever. Striker fire is the most popular firing mechanism though but the tilting barrel, that's all from Browning's 1911.
>Old guns this is true
It's true for guns that have the firing pin attached to the hammer. RImfires and SAAs and the like.
>anime website
I thought this was a Mongolian Basket Weaving forum?
>"You don't tug on Superman's cape
>You don't spit into the wind
>You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim"
>there ain't no good in an evil hearted woman
>I ain't cut out to be no Jesse James
>You don't go writing hot checks down in Mississippi
>there ain't no good chain gang
>You don't tug on Superman's cape
Why? Dude is a paragon of good. Most cases he'd just politely ask you to stop and then float out of reach.
Superman might have the must tug-able cape in the history of fiction. There's plenty of other characters that would flat out kill you.
>Why?
because you'd go flying along after him and then fall off and die and he wouldn't notice
Same reason you don't mess around with Jim
You'd need to be superhuman to hold onto his cape when he flies away. Maybe you could stay attached if you knotted it around you, but there's no way he doesn't notice. And this is the same dude with super hearing.
he has super-senses, if you are tugging on Superman's cape it is because he let you
>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
This is true for some older designs like the Browning HP. I snapped the slide stop of my 1994 BHP in half in about a year of use that way
Do you attribute that to dropping the slide on an empty chamber or part issue? How does the slide falling on an empty chamber affect the slide stop other than it being used as intended?
Because the slide stop as designed is flimsy as fuck and feeding a cartridge will slow it down enough it doesn't break
>>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber
This is true for 1911s or any gun without a spring loaded extractor. It'll bend the extractor out eventually. But for ARs, glonks, mossberg 500s, send it.
Wait what lol
I've actually heard "slamming" the slide on a HP can cause damage to small parts, I havent heard more than that but it's definitely a thing.
All of it has truth behind it to varying degrees or certain firearms. Calling it fuddlore and discounting it shows lack of maturity.
Howdy grandpa.
>keep passing down old wives' tales because you might just come across a Peepee Poopoo Model 1869!
If you're giving advice that's outdated that's just bad advice.
Keep dropping that slide on an empty chamber in your plastic fantastic sidearm and see how quickly the retaining pin holes stretch dipshit.
People with a lot more experience than you passed shit down for a reason.
Have a glock with 5000 rounds through it and I drop the slide constantly like this, how long until I see that!
So on polymer frame guns this matters in your eyes... but what about steel frame pistols?
Depends on the pistol. They have different weaknesses. That's the problem with dismissing fudlore. More often than not it applies somehow. It's definitely not good for glocks. The more you take it down and clean it as well. Even more so for the knockoffs and the 3D printed and aftermarket versions of the glock.
I wouldnt say people dismiss fuddlore, more like take it with a grain if salt, which honestly any info you get should be treated. The biggest thing is the stuff we call "fuddlore" likely wasnt learned/ experienced first hand and then spread as true, it was just passed down and spread by people who heard it from someone else who "heard it from somone else who heard it from someone it happened to", which that on it's own is reason enough to be skeptical.
>plastic fantastic
Holy shit it's Gecko45
Literally have been fucking my firearms in both dry fire and empty slide drops and nothing has happened in a decade of use on my P95 and 92FS. You're basically retarded and mad, which is more common in old people, you lose the plot. Hurry up and kill your family and yourself.
You dont own any nice guns and apparently dont and wont ever buy a staccato lol.
Bogarting a cylinder will make the future owners of the gun waste hours in fixing it
>Bogarting
whats that
why?
>bogart
NTA, but as I use it, it's a synonym with hoarding, hogging, pigging up, etc.
Flipping the cylinder closed like they did in film noir
Outta here twink, try taking a picture of your revolvers when youre actually shooting them.
Already do
It’s how I see what I’m doing wrong and adjust
Alright you got me, you proved you actually shoot it. At least once.
>come back when you shoot it
>posts video
>aight you got me, my bad bro
Based
something is bogarted when it doesn't work no more
lmao you don't need to take off the sideplate to fix a bent crane you dumb nagger larper
>hours fixing it
oh no, it's retarded
His competitive advantage is that his belt has enough cartridge loops for the entire match.
The bullet goes in-line with the bore when it leaves the barrel. I could absolutely put a zero on an optic that is parallel to the barrel and the bullet would never increase in altitude. This is, of course, really dumb.
I think what anon is turned around a bit. He may be saying that when you zero your rifle you are zeroing it in a way that you have to hold it slightly upwards. You could never sight a firearm with both the sight and barrel perfectly parallel to eachother because then the bullet would always hit below target. That's how you get stuff like your 25/300 yard zero, because the bullet is in an arched flight.
Sure, but I think the misconception many people have, which OP would be correcting, is that the bullet achieves some kind of "lift" from the muzzle.
>You could never sight a firearm with both the sight and barrel perfectly parallel to each other
Sure you could. The barrel rise during firing means the barrel will wind up pointing up relative to its orientation when the trigger was pulled. Look at any 357 magnum revolver, the barrel actually points noticeably *down* relative to the sights, that's because of the barrel movement between the time the primer goes off and the bullet leaving the barrel.
I actually did not know this about revolvers, I knew the front sight blade was always tall and rear sight short on them but never took the time to think about it. But I was more speaking on optics rather than irons, if you set up your scope or red dot in a way that you would hold the barrel at a perfect 0° angle then the bullet is going to hot low everytime. If I'm retarded and this isnt making sense I made a crappy example image of what I mean.
The barrel on a rifle will also rotate up when firing. How much depends on a variety of factors, but it's entirely possible to have a rifle set up exactly like your picture, yet have the bullet hit POA at some range. This could actually be "sighted in" at your preferred range if you're a handloader, heavier charges/heavier bullets would move the POI up, lighter charges/lighter bullets would move the POI down.
A manufacturer accounting for the felt recoil from the bullet travel with the barrel sounds pretty out there, iI can see this done with high quality precision rifles but not your run of the mill commercial pistol.
Are you talking about barrel harmonics? It's not guaranteed that the barrel will be tilted upwards when the bullet leaves the barrel.
No, the rifle itself rotates around the shooter's shoulder - for a right handed shooter it rotates up and to the right. This is why muzzle brakes direct more gas up; some of them also direct more gas to the right. In case you've ever wondered, this is why the AK muzzle device is cut at a slant and angled slightly to the right, it directs gas up and to the right to counteract the muzzle rise for a right handed shooter. This muzzle rise starts to happen while the bullet is in the barrel, so that by the time the bullet leaves the barrel it is *not* pointed at the same location it was when the trigger is pulled (or even when the primer went off). Your diagram shows what the rifle would look like pre-firing; but a more complete diagram would show the two parallel lines for your sight and barrel pointing up slightly at bullet exit - meaning that the lines for sight at the time the trigger was pulled, and the line for the barrel at the time the bullet left it, to intersect some distance downrange. The 357 magnum revolver is simply an extreme example of this, where the effect is so severe that the manufacturer has to make the barrel point below the point of aim because it will rotate so fast that it will cross the line of aim while the bullet is still in the barrel.
That dudes not me, I'm the guy with the retard diagram. The retard diagram wasnt suppose to include felt recoil pre-bullet exit. I honestly am calling bullshit on what youre saying at this point at least for some of it. There is no fucking way that companies are designing their rifles with a slightly tuned barrels to adjust for the barrel movement while the bullet is leaving the barrel. I can see revolvers doing this because of the barrel gap causing the slightest deviation before the bullet leaves the actual barrel but with your run of the mill rifle or pistol, no that's not happening. With adjustments that small and the tolerance margins allowed in actual commercial production of firearms theres no way they'd even opt for that in a design because it would matter very little to the average consumer. So, I am going to need more than your revolver sight example to accept this theory, i.e. documented proof that they actually do this from an actual company.
>There is no fucking way that companies are designing their rifles with a slightly tuned barrels to adjust for the barrel movement while the bullet is leaving the barrel.
They don't bother tuning their barrels because for rifles the vertical flip is small enough that you can simply adjust for it with the normal elevation adjustment on the sights. But for rifles that came pre-sighted from the factory (e.g. military rifles with relatively non-adjustable sights like the mauser) the factory absolutely did take muzzle flip into account when designing their sights.
>the factory absolutely did take muzzle flip into account
An easy place to see this is on old black powder rifles where the bullet was extremely heavy and the bullet dwell time fairly long. If you compare the height of the front sight on a carbine or musketoon vs an infantry rifle, you'll see that it varies by barrel length, the longer barreled firearms have a higher front sight because there is more muzzle rise before the bullet leaves the barrel. But the same effect exists with modern rifles, which are subject to the same laws of physics.
With staked/ non-adjustable sights from the factory I can see them really taking that into account. What I'm really saying is that the way commercial firearms are made and the kind of QC they have and the allowed tolerances I don't think they give a shit about the felt recoil while the bullet is going through the barrel, I know they care about barrel harmonics on competition firearms or precision rifles like I said but there's too much deviation between ammo that I'm sure they just don't give a fuck. There's way more stuff that affects accuracy that would be easier for companies to fix that they don't even care about. Like for the stock, there's accuracy deviations based on how the stock is attached and how much contact the stock is making and where the stock is making contact and what tolerances the stock has and they don't give a shit about that, I can go to a gun store and get just about any rifle and I bet I can find gaps and movement in the stock. Just saying, if they don't even care about the stock how are they going to care about that sorta thing.
It has nothing to do with QC, and it happens - to different degrees - both for guns with heavy recoil and guns with light recoil. From the rifle manufacturer's standpoint, if the POI change due to barrel flip can be dealt with via the normal elevation adjustment in the sights then that's the way to do it, from their standpoint they've simply pushed the problem down to the end user. But that doesn't mean the effect doesn't exist. And in the case of the picture with the parallel sights and barrel, this effect is going to be much more important since the claim was about the relationship between the sights and barrel and the direction of the bullet travel.
Barrel flip doesn't really affect accuracy as long as it's consistent; it should affect Point of Impact pretty much the same for every shot.
A user is going to find their own zero anyways, with or without the company adjusting the barrel to accommodate that stuff. So it's always going to be a user solved issue, either by the actual customer or the person sighting in the pistol.
>A user is going to find their own zero anyways
Yes, nobody is arguing against that, this is why from the manufacturer's point of view, adjustable sights make it a non-problem, and why you only see this effect accounted for in the design when you look at rifles with non-adjustable sights, or firearms where this effect is particularly severe as to make it impossible to sight in without accounting for muzzle flip. But for the purposes of the claim in
"user find their own zero" *isn't* an option, the claim is that if the sight and barrel are perfectly parallel then the bullet will always hit below the point of aim. And that claim is simply not true, due to the effect of muzzle flip on the direction of the bullet.
>or the person sighting in the pistol.
If S&W shipped their revolvers without extremely tall front sights, their customers couldn't sight in their pistols at all, because there isn't enough vertical adjustment range in the rear sight. I mean they could do this anyway, and force their customers to buy an aftermarket extra-tall front sight to "fix" this lack of attention by the factory. But that would be bad, so Smith & Wesson does in fact supply their revolvers with extra tall sights.
For semiautomatic pistols like the Glock where it is expected that it shoot to point of aim (at least on the vertical) from the factory, barrel flip is mostly accounted for by the barrel alignment in the slide, with the breech locked the Glock's barrel actually points slightly downwards relative to the sights.
>With adjustments that small
It's only small on rifles, it's much larger on pistols. As I pointed out with the 357 magnum revolver picture, this is typically dealt with in the sights, not the barrel design.
Smith & Wesson isn't an actual company? How about Ruger?
Wasnt referring to the revolver sight thing I accepted that I was more on the subject of rifles
I never denied it was real, I was just saying companies don't give a fuck about that. Seeing how small of a movement it is from the vids I double doubt companies actually give a fuck about this in rifles.
You have very little experience with rifles then. Any rifle where you have to replace or weld/file the front sight in order to zero for elevation will have had this effect taken into account when the sights were designed. If the rifle has a more flexible system for zeroing elevation - e.g. a threaded front post, or it's an optics-only rifle - then yeah, the manufacturers don't have to worry about it, they just let the elevation adjustment deal with it.
Lol no. A rifle sighted in on a lead sled with zero vertical movement will shoot the exact same zero when shot offhand. Recoil does not happen until the bullet leaves the barrel because that's how physics work. Even your revolver idea is wrong because the .500 S&W would need a cartoonishly tall front sight to fit your theory.
a) That's not at all how physics work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion
b) It does have a cartoonishly tall front sight.
It's obvious you haven't taken physics since high school and you harely paid attention. Quit spreading made-up nonsense. You are unironically propagating neo-fuddlore on a thread made to dispell fuddlore
Yes this is the height over bore problem. Bullets aren't lasers so the problem is even more complicated than your example. If they were then you could just zero for a constant POA shift and add a handy offset on the reticle. But bullets have drop and a larger height over bore will exacerbate the issue too. DeltaThirtyFour on youtube has a few videos about the subject and the pros and cons of different zeros using some popular optics and risers to give you an idea.
I wouldn't call it a problem, more like the way optics work, it obviously has everything to do with height over bore but the point I was making is to get a zero on your optic you need to set it up in a way that your bullet travel will be in an arched path as in your rifle barrel will be slightly tilted up while firing. Which this is a kinda "no duh" thing but a couple anons were confused about it.
It's a "problem" inasmuch as its something you need to know about and account for. Problems have solutions. The solution here is to know your drops.
Well putting it that way, yeah I see what you mean.
Exactly. Which means when you shoot the gun, the bullet goes up. If you lock it in a sled and don't aim at anything, when the gun is fired the bullet goes straight
You 100% can zero a gun in a sled and then fire it by hand and it will be zeroed the same.
This has everything to do with flinch and nothing to do with the gun itself moving any appreciable amount between primer strike and the bullet leaving the barrel
Don't argue with me, argue with Hornady, all they do is make ammunition after all
I think anon knows how bullet trajectory works, he's just saying that gun barrels arent made with any kind of "tilt" to them, they are as straight as anything else on the rifle. Bullets travel in an arched path because the shooter himself tilts the bore upwards to meet his sights/ optics zero.
Anon, your picrel states that the example is using a 100-yard zero. So you’re sort of tight in that bullets do have an arched trajectory and >99% of the time one shoots, the muzzle is pointed slightly upward so they do go up. But if you held the firearm in a vise with the muzzle at a 0* angle, it isn’t going to rise or experience any kind of lift.
>did..did you just that fucking slide on an empty chamber??
dropping the slide on an empty chamber has like a one in a gorillion chance of hurting your trigger job if it's done improperly, and can *technically* add a miniscule amount of normal wear and tear to your locking surfaces, both exclusively in 1911's.
Cowboying revolvers *technically* adds normal wear and tear to the cylinder arm.
The rest of that is unadulterated, homogenised, pasteurised grade AAA bullshit
>>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
this actually happened to one of my guns, but it's fairly old and this is a common issue with them (Star BM)
>overpressure ammo won’t accelerate wear - Akk!
This one is also true. The FBI and many police used overloaded 38sp in their small frame revolvers and that contributed to the the timing problems many have now. Maybe you won’t notice but future owners will
Not as bad as zoomer lore where dues spend hours talking about how they built out their gun for some certain scenario and then trying to justify every fucking retarded item on it
HUR DUR ITS FOR DOING CQB IN AN URBAN SETTING BUT ALSO SNIPING PEOPLE AT LONG RANGE THATS WHY THE BARREL IS 3 INCHES AND THE SCOPE IS 20X MAGNIFICATION HHA HUR HE EE EEE
You're just as out of touch with reality
Tacticool LARPers are somehow even more ass than boomers
I could listen to a soothing boomer speak for hours like Spomer
But trying to listen to hop or brass facts drives me fucking insane
I can fall asleep listening to spomer, and then i dream sweat dreams about 7mm.
obsessed fuddy mad he's been exposed? typical
Its a PDW but its also a CQC rifle but its also an SPR DMR Sniper its got the AAC BBC ABG on it and I see it as an investment so I am fine with spending 20,000 dollars on it
I may sell it for 1/3 of what I bought it for tho cause of that new garand thubm fideo
Alright man, it sounds like you're taking about something specific. Go ahead and link the video bro, let's see this homosexual.
He might be referring to the brass facts video where he tried to upsell a 13.5 5.56 AR as an "urban DMR". Meanwhile everyone who matters is just using 7.62x51 or 6.5 Creedmoor if they want semi-auto long range shots
they should be using 7mm-08
Checked. Both are pretty awful. Boomers that can’t move on from the past and zoomers that out way too faith in attachments rather than semi frequent practice.
>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
Definitely the most retarded fudd-lore. I've never understood the concept of "downloading" mags either. It says 30 on the mag for a reason. If the mag fucks out then it's probably a shit mag.
>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
Tied with previous for most retarded. AR15s have a ton of springs which are under constant tension (trigger springs, buffer, detents, etc). I doubt pistols are going to wear out over being left alone with the hammers/springs cocked
>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
Unironically is bad for the extractor on certain guns.
>Don't cowboy a revolver it's bad for the gun
It actually is.
>Don't shoot steel case it's bad for the gun
It wasn't about the case but about the steel jacket under a thin layer of copper, which drastically increases barrel wear especially with high velocity cartridges, rapid fire and a lack of chrome lining, or a combination of these.
>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
Actual fuddlore.
>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
Depending on the design this can be true. For example CZ 52 pistols were notorious for their brittle pins.
And of course you shouldn't dryfire a .22
>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
This is absolutely true for 1911s and 2011s. Drop the slide all you want on a striker gun, but if you do this too often on a 1911 you'll peen the fuck out of everything that makes your trigger good.
Dropping the slide is also bad for CZ 75 and other similar tilting-barrel designs, where the slide stop has to absorb the force of the impact. That being said, the slide stop is kind of supposed to be replaced every few tens of thousands of shots on those guns.
Being in the gray is not a bad thing
>>the most accurate rifle is the deadliest rifle
Bullshit you can afford to be wildly less accurate with a 300WM than you can with a 243.
>>the best caliber (pistol) is the one you can shoot the best, has the highest capacity, least recoil
This is peak ignorant anti science boomer garbage. It's the ignorant idiots argument to why they personally chose something so everyone else should as well even though the world has moved on. It's a non argument. You will shoot the best with the pistol you give the most trigger time to, period.
beats caliber choice
Take 3 9mm shots to the torso and one 44 magnum to the torso and call me I'm the morning with the verdict on that one.
Ok you dense motherfuckers. About mags and springs, there are at least a few kinds you don't leave loaded for years. Especially 1911 mags. The feedlips will expand and the spring will go to shit. This goes for factory Colt 1911 mags as well. Colt/NHMTG/aluminum mags AR-15 mags may start to pop a round up if left loaded with the pressure on the feedlips without that much use.
(You) probably don't need to leave 50 mags loaded. It doesn't take long at all to load a mag. You can have your buddy load them if shtf in the passenger seat or sitting around with your thumb up your ass. A few sure kept loaded sure. You are just putting unnecesary wear on shit. Exceptions would be AKM mags because they are made of thick steel and built like tanks.
>You're full of shit fuck you retard.
I've had to replace the spring on a factory Colt 1911 mag that had been sitting loaded for years. It couldn't load rounds anymore and caused jams. I have two NHMTG mags that the round noses up halfway out of the mag when firing because they were left loaded for years. They still feed but need to be tweaked now.
I have a theory that as the ground vibrates, and as spring pressure pushes rounds up, the rounds try to work their way up out of the magazine.
There is a thing called keeping your good shit good. It's not a hard concept to grasp. If anything ever went down, you are going to prefer like new mags that aren't beat to shit and prematurely worn because the redditnet said it wasn't bad to do. Arfcom will also occasionally sell you on garbage. Mags will not go to shit if left unloaded. If left loaded for years and years this might not be the case. It's a stupid risk.
Just keep 12-20 mags loaded and have 20 more unloaded. You can buy as many mags as you like. If you have rare mags don't keep them loaded. It only takes about a minute to load a 30rd magazine.
>t. Doing this shit for decades.
>don't drop the slide on your 1911 son you'll break your gun
>you gotta use a round to slow down the slide
>boomers add extra weight recoil springs to their guns which slams the slide home harder, negating the slowing effect of the round feeding
>people use 45 super which hella increases slide velocity
'splain dat
>>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
Not real
>>Don't cowboy a revolver it's bad for the gun
Real
>>Don't shoot steel case it's bad for the gun
Not real
>>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
Not real
>>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
Not real
>>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
Real only in regards to rimfire guns, otherwise not real
Repeatedly loading and unloading mags will wear out your spring and wear out feedlips. Keeping a mag loaded with pressure on the feedlips may expand them out depending on the mag. Both yield the same result, a fucked up mag.
Some designs are better than others. Extended mags put more pressure on the feedlips.
Keeping them unloaded will make them last way longer. Yes keep some loaded for use. Mags are wear items. Buy a shit ton.
Unloaded and unused*
Test your mags.
>>Don't drop the slide on an empty chamber it's bad for the gun
maybe if your gun is made from cast aluminum, otherwise its literally a non issue
>>Don't cowboy a revolver it's bad for the gun
the only truth
>>Don't shoot steel case it's bad for the gun
not even remotely true
>>Don't keep your magazines loaded it's bad for the spring
physically not how springs work
>>Don't keep your hammer/ striker cocked it's bad for the spring
physically not how springs work
>>Don't dry-fire a gun it could shatter the firing pin
maybe if your gun and firing pin is made from cast aluminum
Wtf do you mean by cowboying retard? Spinning the cylinder in a single action unnecessarily can fuck with lockup overtime. Flipping the cylinder closed can fuck with timing also.
That's why I said truth behind fuddlore you no reading fuck. And that shit is popularly referred to as "cowboying" and you fucking understood that so what's the issue?
It’s also called Bogarting
If you do any of that shit to my guns, you'll never touch my guns again. I don't care if it's "fine" or not. It's bad form when the gun isn't yours.
>hand revolver to friend or brother
>they flick it shut in front of you
At least unloaded, loaded with mass in the cylinders it does a lot more damage
>>Don't drop the slide on an empty
And I will continue to avoid this.