>trained to NATO standards. >armed with NATO weapons. >provided with NATO intelligence

>trained to NATO standards
>armed with NATO weapons
>provided with NATO intelligence
>lots of NATO personnel embedded in its forces
>more motivated than any NATO army, partially due to fighting on their home turf
>fully mobilized to the point where even women are going to get mobilized
>being supplied by NATO in peace economy and without the strain of war (meaning supplies may as well be infinite)
>Russia hasn't even mobilized at all
>still getting BTFO
Is it fair to say at this point that NATO is quite likely to lose a conventional war with Russia? There's basically no way for them to defend tiny countries like the Baltics for example.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2 more weeks

    Z

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >3 faints later
    >winning

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>lots of NATO personnel embedded in its forces
    Proofs?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lets go, total war between Russia and NATO, it's the only way to know for sure.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAAH! MAMA, SAVE ME! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does it still count as "boots on the ground" if one is up a tree?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    russians now writing fanfic to cope kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There's basically no way for them to defend tiny countries like the Baltics for example.
    Very good point. Russia can simply rush the baltics or Poland and do a quick capture - it would take 2-3 weeks. NATO literally cannot react fast enough to do anything - and as we know russian captured territories are under the nuclear umbrella immediately.

    This is why anyone with a higher than average IQ knows that at least for eastern europe NATO is a dead, fake alliance that cannot defend them without embroiling in a nuclear conflict. Slavs in those countries are not generally very intelligent so they keep pissing Russia off. Eventually they will have to walk the walk and probably sooner than later. Bottom line is dont invest in East Europe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If that were true why has Russia never invaded a NATO member?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't take back baltics or we will end the world
      >NATO call the bluff and commit
      >Russia doesn't nuke half the world because their little invasion of a foreign country failed
      wow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it would take 2 weeks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok. But, bear with me here, Vlad, what if that's not true anymore because NATO sees what Russia does in Ukraine?
      >https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_197288.htm
      >Today, NATO leaders decided a fundamental shift in our defence and deterrence to respond to a new security reality.
      >We will strengthen our forward defences.
      >We will enhance our battlegroups in the eastern part of the Alliance, up to brigade level.
      >We will transform the NATO Response Force.
      >And increase the number of high readiness forces to well over 300,000.

      >We will also boost our ability to reinforce, including with:

      >More pre-positioned equipment, and stockpiles of military supplies.
      >More forward-deployed capabilities, like air defence.
      >Strengthened command and control.
      >And upgraded defence plans, with forces pre-assigned to defend specific Allies.
      >This is the first time since the Cold War that we have these kind of plans with pre-assigned forces.
      >They will work with home defence forces, and become familiar with local terrain, facilities, and pre-positioned stocks.
      So that we can reinforce even faster.

      tl;dr: NATO is abandoning the tripwire troop concept and is switching to keeping serious defence forces stationed inside specific NATO border countries (such as the Baltics, Poland, etc.)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That would take years

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well russia is effectively crippled so NATO has lots of time

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but so will taking Kiev so Russia is going to be too busy to open a second front for awhile.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ok. But what if it... doesn't? What if SOME EVENT HAPPENING ON ITS BORDERS is giving NATO, a defensive military alliance made up of the richest and most productive nations on earth both the funds and motivation it needs to adopt its new strategy within a few months?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe, which is why we are sending Ukraine equipment, if the Russians are bogged down in Ukraine they aren't invading the Baltics meaning NATO can do whatever NATO likes for the next few years in Eastern Europe and the Russians can't do shit about it.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    to NATO standards
    >>lots of NATO personnel embedded in its forces
    You pulled both of these out of your ass. In reality the Ukrainian military is arguably just as incompetent as the Russian one. Of course a poorer country with much less manpower is gonna lose to a nation that doesn't care about casualties in the slightest.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lots of NATO personnel embedded in its forces
    show me

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I do like on the plebbit worldnews thread, they still pretend this isn't a proxy war between NATO and Russia.
    Honestly can't tell if NATOcels are that delusional or they're actual retards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You may remember from real proxy wars like Vietnam and Korea the US put boots on the ground, this is just offering unlimited money and arms in exchange for Russian scalps.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >trained to NATO standards
    Couple of guys with barebones training is not NATO standard
    >armed with NATO weapons
    Armed with old soviet shit, and only now is getting old NATO shit
    >provided with NATO intelligence
    Sure
    >lots of NATO personnel embedded in its forces
    proofs
    >more motivated than any NATO army, partially due to fighting on their home turf
    And also due russians constant atrocities, but sure
    >fully mobilized to the point where even women are going to get mobilized
    lol
    >being supplied by NATO in peace economy and without the strain of war (meaning supplies may as well be infinite)
    Sure
    >Russia hasn't even mobilized at all
    Russia has mobilized as much as it realistically can
    >still getting BTFO
    lol

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're not armed with the US Navy and US Air Force. A conveniental war between Russia and NATO would probably look something like this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly with all his bullshit a conventional war between NATO and Russia might just be a decapitation strike and a Marshall Plan.
      There would be a few vatniks retarded enough to keep fighting but I think the majority would stand down as soon as Putin didn't have a gun to their backs.

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