Total Cost of a Basic Russian Infantryman

All these clips of mobiks getting run over by their own BTRs got me thinking, what IS a good estimate for the total lifetime cost for a single mobik on average. At minimum the estimate should include
>cost of state provided gear
>cost of training
>payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
and any other relevant costs (for the Russian MoD) in order to ship one to the front.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Oh how far the zigger shills have fallen, from "Berlin in two weeks!" to "We haven't lost yet!"

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my assumption is outside of Moscow area most Russians are a neutral or negative effect on Russian economy correct?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tyumen Oblast, which is in parts farther from Moscow than Paris is has 170% GNP compared to Moscow.
      The far east, the part China is going to take from Russia one day, is far richer than the west of Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s not because of the people working there, though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not how it works at all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Russian economy" only needs enough russians to man the drilling rigs and refineries. Everyone else is a net drain.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based Ukrainians for blowing refineries and oil terminals, therefore increasing the pool of vatniks available for TZD.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't know. their existence gives Russia a base of "chattel slaves" to pull from. there is value in that.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Uh oh, you've got the zigger shill angry OP.

    Last I heard the price was in the single digits of $1000s, inflated due to the signing bonus most of them are promised (that most don't receive for "going MIA").

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what IS a good estimate for the total lifetime cost for a single mobik on average
      Lets break it down
      >rifle - free, thanks USSR
      >ammo - ~$60 based on 120 rounds at $0.50 per
      >uniform - free, mobiks are expected to pay for it
      >training - 2 weeks of food and water +30 rounds ~$50
      >pay ~$1,800 per month, 2 weeks training + 2 weeks in the field

      So to drag a Russian off the street, "train" them and keep them on the front for 2 weeks you are looking at about $2,500 including food and transportation.

      >2024: The average active duty North Korean Soldier has had at least 10-20X more equavalent resources spent on him as your average Russian Soldier and roughly 6 years more training not to mention a significantly better benifits package, one that substantially increases the standard of liviung for multipule generations of his family.

      >The Russians family gets a one time gift of cheesy poofs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idk. 210k rubles is 2.5k usd per month. Thats probably more that is spent on average north korean in a year.

        For Russia, the military salaries right now are extremely competetive

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >2024: Russians are getting angry because North Korea treats their soldiers better than they do.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What, in terms of like start of contract to end of life? Dunno somewhere around 10k presumably. Their training like a month at most right now. The real confounding factor is whether or not the Russian government pays out their sign on bonus or their life insurance

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's around 35k USD for being discharged from injuries and like 60k for death, with salaries for grunts beginning around 1.8k a month. Seems like the plan has been to drag out the repayment approval process if you are discharged/killed to soften the blow to state coffers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >60k for death

      No body, no proven death.

      They mostly go MIA which is a slang term for getting left in the field or getting cremated in one of the hundreds of mobile field crematories.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I can’t believe we went from Russia bragging about being able to take Kyiv in two weeks to this

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But they don't pay the families

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Total Cost of a Basic Russian Infantryman
    Taking other factors into account, the cost of a Russian infantryman is negative. From what I heard from the interviews with the smarter ones who surrendered, most of them are malicious human garbage and disposing of them is a net benefit for Russia.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, all countries should recruit their homeless and prisoners and send them as light infantry to get killed by their neighbors in a pointless war. There are no downsides.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are downsides if those countries have cohesive societies and are not totalitarian shitholes. For a totalitarian shithole that strives to be a very large North Korea, there really are no downsides.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There are downsides if those countries have cohesive societies and are not totalitarian shitholes
          What are the downsides of getting rid of junkies and criminals and getting clay in return?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Be a non-shithole nation with a professional army
            >Actually practice CASEVAC instead of giving mobiks suicide grenades
            >Bring back junkie criminal home, who now gets benefits and has combat experience
            >Said junkie criminal proceeds to meet up with other junkie criminals
            >All of them have benefits income at a minimum
            >Now have to deal with organized crime rackets made up of vets
            For the totalitarian shitholes this is a non issue of course (coups and revolts notwithstanding), because they just kill the pena-. I mean soldiers, on the frontlines, or when they run into blocking detachments.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, so no casevac or benefits for junkie units. Problem solved. No need for blocking detachments either. Just infinite mission count.
              >you survived the mission and took the objective?
              >Great job. Here's another one. I hope you do just as well this time
              >wash
              >rinse
              >fill ranks with more junkies
              >repeat
              If someone accidentally gets casevaced and doesn't lose a limb, they go back to the front when mostly recovered. Maybe amputees get a pass since it's hard to do crime with one leg

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Maybe amputees get a pass since it's hard to do crime with one leg
                but as "one-armed bandit" you are fit for duty

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DA!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are downsides if those countries have cohesive societies and are not totalitarian shitholes. For a totalitarian shithole that strives to be a very large North Korea, there really are no downsides.

            North korean active duty troops actually have a damn good benifits package for a dictatorship:

            >Family gets increased rations
            >Afte your (active) 8 years service get to live in one of the cities in an apartment, access to stores
            >Kids and you get to go to higher education
            >Can join the party (rations) basically joining their version of the middle class
            >Access to actual stores in the cities
            >Kim-phone!
            >Kids given extra consideration to join the active military
            >Social credit, only real means of social mobility

            Something alot of people don't understand is yes, most of the military are conscripts. However the active duty full time military isn't. They are volunteers and most applicants are rejected, acceptance and the benifits that come with it are a major means of the regime asserting control/assuring the loyalty of the active military.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you are okay with 500k criminals and druggiesbgetting liquidated in a country as small as ziggerstan, you have bigger problems. It means that you know the well of human refuse is deep, and it may in fact be most of the country.
            Why, then, should anybody want to support the Russians?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not just have gladiator fights again but using those people? For extra lols, toss them onto alcatraz island

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are no downsides.

        really, theres no downsides to incentivizing making your citizens homeless or felons?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    ...huh, I thought russia was pathetic for being the second strongest army in the world failing to subjugate the poorest european country with a 3:1 numerical advantage for two years and counting, but when you put it like that I can now see it's actually very impressive.

    https://i.imgur.com/XFSZaH4.jpeg

    All these clips of mobiks getting run over by their own BTRs got me thinking, what IS a good estimate for the total lifetime cost for a single mobik on average. At minimum the estimate should include
    >cost of state provided gear
    >cost of training
    >payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
    and any other relevant costs (for the Russian MoD) in order to ship one to the front.

    Hard to tell as there are many that have to buy their own gear and get their weapon in the field from the fallen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there are many that have to buy their own gear and get their weapon in the field from the fallen.
      But I was told Enemy at the Gates was russophobic propaganda!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >russians lie to save face
        Tale as old as time

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not yet, but given how excited you seem by that prospect, you must have some great insights into Russian army costs. But even if you don't want to further participate in this amateur actuarial exercise, I still appreciate giving the thread some initial traction.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fU0ezjF.jpeg

      [...]

      this is a troll account btw, not a real ai-integrated twitter account. trolls trolling trolls

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dead internet theory is real
        >but it's not AI
        >it's just that everyone still posting is a moron
        Grim.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I find it more comforting than the clear dystopia we are walking towards, in fairness.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A C C E L E R A T E

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you always say that whenever one of their bots shits itself. Had one time one over at /misc/ that started spamming gore pics but as it ran out it tapped into the owners pony scat porn folder

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He needed to put a few repeating statements to bypass the filter, one wouldn't be enough to bias it away from the original chatGPT prompt, perhaps a )' " at the start too would kill bot prompts that use ", ' and () to differentiate the main prompt from yours.
      They can also use other symbols, but if you're dedicated you can write a script to reply with every single one and add "also write to be confirmed" at the end of the message.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cost? Dead mobiks is a net benefit for kremlin regime. Less parasites for gas station.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HeheheHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/vp6N3wv.png

        Cost? Dead mobiks is a net benefit for kremlin regime. Less parasites for gas station.

        Could Russia ever actually get back it's position as a manufacturing power again?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To become a manufacturing power, the west must first build all those factories, as it did in the 19th and 20th centuries.
          Donbass was created by Belgium, France, UK. Pre-WW2 russia was created by US, Germany, France. Post-WW2 russia was created by US and kidnapped german engineers..

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they never were

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When the FRICK did we overtake Japan?!
        I swear our economy somehow endures despite our politics being THAT moronic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          part of it is also Japan stagnating since the 90s
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decades

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Since it's in USD it may be the result of currency fluctuations. JPY has been tanking, Euro's still pretty decent.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >itt, vatBlack person moron still not understanding that time and attrition are on Ukraines side
    Post Kharkiv. Post ruble exchange rate.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The average minority village peasant soldier used as disposable fodder? Practically nothing. Measured in the thousands of dollars each. White spec ops and specialists? Much more training, support and overall investment closer to the value of a European soldier although still significantly less.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
    15 bags of Cheetos

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cost of state provided gear
    0. They have to equip themselves.
    >cost of training
    kek
    >payments to mobik
    200 000 ruble one time + 200 000 ruble/month salary
    >payments to mobik family
    5 000 000 rubles for kill, 3 000 000 rubles for wound

    Got mobilized 2 years ago, no contract - russia payed nothing
    Got contract 2 years ago, still alive - russia payed out 5 000 000 ruble ($50 000)
    Got contract 2 years ago, went MIA - russia payed out 5 000 000 ruble ($50 000)
    Got contract 2 years ago, got killed now - russia payed out 10 000 000 ruble ($100 000)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thats quite a lot, given that the benefit of the average mobik is very low.
      If we go extra grim and say that only 10% of killed mobiks get their death payments, thats still 5000$ averaged out. Add to that cost of logistics, the minimal stuff they get and its a net loss for russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm curious what exactly the statistics are on mobiks lost per square kilometer of cratered-up wasteland gained.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's very fluid. Russians lose about 5000 kia every 25 square kilometers they take at the moment

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That statistic would be very hard to maintain. I recently saw a documentary about a Ukrainian women who lost her twin brother and tried to retrieve his corpse from the Donbass. She actually found the man who burried him, but she couldn't visit him, since the place was still a warzone...
          After two years, the frontline didn't change in that village. Many died and nobody gained anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Got a source on that documentary?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cost of state provided gear
      Difficult to impossible for anyone outside of the Russian MoD to calculate, since the equipment they get is nonstandardized and comes from God knows how many sources so it varies wildly in cost. That and that doesn't account for mobiks being forced to pay for their own gear, which would save money for Russia.
      >cost of training
      >implying mobiks get significant training beyond assrape and suicide tutorials
      >payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
      has a good answer for that

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    цeapons?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think you meant "шeapons?"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a dude's asscrack with a bruise on one cheek.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's ok

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/8nUGklg.jpeg

        it's ok

        You have a satisfied a Russian man with these images

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *and equipment
      post asking about costs of weapons, equipment, and deployment

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many mobiks equal one BTR?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on how you define cost. If you are looking at the average conscript as a weapons system it takes 22 years average to build one. Having one destroyed takes away 50 years of income. What does it cost to construct then then train them then ship and equip them then what is the cost of losing one over a lifetime. Something like that has been calculated out by west point, dod, pentagon, mit, Dia. It usually ends up in the 2.5 to 3.3 million dollar range. The average American is around 10-11, that's why they spend around 7 million per Capita on the soldiers health overall in America. I think at this point it's about 2 million a vatnik loss with their economy shuffling around. It used to be you lose a guy it's maybe 10,000. Now one person can generate so much labor the market demands it cost more to just create on.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what IS a good estimate for the total lifetime cost for a single mobik on average
    GDP per capita x average lifespan
    works out nicely to about 1 million dollars
    >other relevant costs (for the Russian MoD) in order to ship one to the front.
    this is a lot harder to compute, but a very rough approximation is annual defence budget / military personnel
    as of 2024 that is about 140 billion / 1 million
    works out to about 140,000 dollars

    >cost of state provided gear
    >cost of training
    fairly minimal per capita compared to the infrastructure cost of the entire defence apparatus, and doesn't include other essential costs, which is why I favour the above method as being simple and all-encompassing

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I hate how EA re-released this game on Steam but not give it QoL updates for 2024 systems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play MO.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cost of state provided gear
    soviet gear, depreciated
    ₽ 0
    >cost of training
    lol, lmao
    ₽ 0
    >payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
    he is MIA/deserted
    ₽ 0

    now get in the fricking BMP, Shinjovich.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >make moronic post
    >get mocked relentlessly
    >starts crying, angry that nobody thought his post was cool and epic
    >he is a zigger and so he MUST subvert
    >at the end of the (you) train a dejected zigger samegays to pat himself on the back for being mocked relentlessly
    this pattern keeps repeating itself, you realize everyone can see what you're doing right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No you don't get it.

      He was just pretending to be moronic, so the joke is on you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh shit, the person i made fun of was only pretending to be a moron, what do i do now?
        (tbh i still dont know why people do this, do they really think it's a form of trolling?)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sombody saved my 5000 hour paint pic
      lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a great pic

        t. Diffanon

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's over zigger you've lost hahah. Nothing matters anymore, what you are going to do now, find a real job you fricking Black person shill?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >People are laughing at me shitting myself in public
    >Making me the winner

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the fact that Russians have little value, is their value.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >payments to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
    mobik is not KIA
    mobik is MIA, presumed AWOL
    payment?
    NYET!

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Simple solution: Raise the mission count.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    17 year olds are not legally able to be conscripted, but as usual Bebo is a mouthpiece of the Russian propaganda arm after all.
    Also most of the military is still logistics, so it makes little difference if they're in the system anyway because they're unlikely to be frontliners, I actually think it would be a good idea to use women in behind the line roles but unfortunately Ukrainians are unwilling to risk women unless they volunteer so whatever

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukraine is already in nafo? Shit, that really does mean Russia lost the war.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    give monke a break. He had a nightmare about big black anglo-saksii conquering puccia and then proceeding to go door to door ravaging whatever puccian asses they find

    That and that bayonet up his ass he is so obsessed about

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought Kim was short and fat. He dwarfs Putin

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is short and fat as frick 5'7
        Putin's just a filthy manlet

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          da frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kim isn't short. He just has weird proportions and frick huge head.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >discussing costs of military equipment
    >off topic
    there's nothing wrong with using cost-effective troops as the first wave in terms of military strategy. historically, it works quite well for Russia. I don't get why Russians always act like they're ashamed about this when it's one of their greatest assets in any given war.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Total Cost of a Basic Russian Infantryman
    Each mobik is a net profit for Russia. They sell the meat for more than they spent on the mobik.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >ASEAN

    stinky chinky

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all the same glavset shill that gets attached to each HIMARS fodder thread.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    Decisive BRICS victory.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Artistic swimming
        Is that like interpretive dance?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the new name for synchronized swimming (since 2017 apparently).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ...who does a single swimmer synchronize with?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody, that's probably why they dropped the name.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Theres no way
        I refuse to believe they actually went ahead with this
        Please say this is just some elaborate edit

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would the opportunity cost of future taxes minus future benefits be applicable to the equation? Or do you only want the cost to the MoD specifically rather than the Russian government as a whole?

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/eastern%20ukraine%20yet/
    >8 times in one day

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the bargain bin

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bout tree fiddy

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    3 days was what RUSSIANS told on THEIR OWN media
    and 2 weeks time frame was literally in THEIR DOCUMENTS when they moved on Kyiv, we know that because that's what was found on their corpses

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sauce?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        time tables for taking KEEF
        https://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2024/06/04/the-russian-march-tables-for-kyiv/

        for the 3 day thing, someone post that webm supercut of Solovey & Co. about raising eyebrows

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Eighth, this does raise an issue related to the captured of Hostomel airport. Some accounts have claimed that the Ukrainians had seized the entire airport in the counterattack and then held it. Yet, these forces continue on their march as if that never happened. Furthermore, some of these forces were marching right by the airport. If the Ukrainians had seized the airport, then you think some of these forces would have been diverted. It does not appear that they were. Therefore, we concluded that Ukraine did not seize and hold Hostomel Airport for any extended period of time. They clearly counter attacked there, but the extent of that attack is not really known. It was probably not as successful as some have claimed.

          I was consistently ridiculed by /k/ for claiming the Hostomel assault was successful, for years now. They took it and held it for a month

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Hostomel airport would have been abandoned either way, since the Ukrainians didn't have enough forces in the area to hold it at the beginning of the war. Therefore, all the Russian assault accomplished was the unnecessary death of a few hundred Russian "elite" soldiers, a few dozen IFVs and a dead Major General (Andrei Sukhovetsky).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I still can't tell if this guy is laying face down or up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                check feet. face up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That looks like a right arm though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Check feet
                After all the drones putting ass in the ass I'm not so confident if that's an accurate method now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Prepare to be ridiculed some more, Russia wanted to use that airport to transport troops in aircraft close to Kyiv, the fighting destroyed the runways ensuring that it was useless.
            Thats a Ukrainian strategic victory right there, tactical victory came when they ran away later on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you suppose that when the captured VDV were being tortured to death for intelligence, they were glad they temporarily held the airport between bouts of screaming for mercy?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RIA Novosti's second day leak and the 1st Guards Div/5th Tank brigade papers respectively.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        http://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what IS a good estimate for the total lifetime cost for a single mobik on average
    Lets break it down
    >rifle - free, thanks USSR
    >ammo - ~$60 based on 120 rounds at $0.50 per
    >uniform - free, mobiks are expected to pay for it
    >training - 2 weeks of food and water +30 rounds ~$50
    >pay ~$1,800 per month, 2 weeks training + 2 weeks in the field

    So to drag a Russian off the street, "train" them and keep them on the front for 2 weeks you are looking at about $2,500 including food and transportation.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I can't believe there was a time that I though that Russia was an actually credible threat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      posting superior version

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        China wont let Russia go in war alone. If russia loses, west gets control of russian resources china needs. With china + russia, united states wont be able to win war on land. Only at sea and maybe in air in some locations with proximity to their vassals like japan or korea

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only a third world ESL would be moronic enough to take a joke video at face value

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't it just the NATO equivalent of that Russian "3 days to Berlin 1300km isn't a lot for a modern army xaxaxaxaxa"?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's so natural to you that your government puts out ridiculous propaganda videos that you assume something thrown together as a joke by a person is an official NATO equivalent. Educate yourself, anon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what motivates you to assume that a Russian loss means that we get exclusive access to their commodity exports. A Russian loss could look like anything. Even assuming that everything goes back to the way it was before 2008, which is I think the West's dream scenario, China could still just outbid us using that teensy weensy trade imbalance they've been building up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >China wont let Russia go in war alone
          Yeah, they would probably just take siberia to themselves while the west bombs western russia.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remember Germany in WWII? Russia would be on the receiving end of the race to rape as much of the country into submission as possible this time.
          >East Russia, a Chinese vassal state being exploited for it's resources
          >West Russia, well, I was going to say forcibly rebuilt and dragged into civilization if they like it or not, but really it's probably easier to just burn it all down and let the Poles, Finns, and Ukies colonize the newly cleared of orc scum lands

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >believing that 80% of Chinese Materiel isn't tofu dreg that will actively harm/kill operators
          .50 RMB have been deposited to your account

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ass has risen, now all did know the cowboy hat was off. Everybody wang chung tonight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is there one with sound?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit

        China wont let Russia go in war alone. If russia loses, west gets control of russian resources china needs. With china + russia, united states wont be able to win war on land. Only at sea and maybe in air in some locations with proximity to their vassals like japan or korea

        >China wont let Russia go in war alone
        Yeah, it will, b/c China holds tons of US bonds and USA / EU form the largest part of its trade.
        Russia is fricked, and I doubt China's happy about NK helping them out, either... that's got to really be pissing them off.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You know /k/ didn’t have to become another Reddit propaganda stream if the actual owners/operators of the site, just decided they going to host literal foreign agent bullshit RU propaganda themselves despite the fact they dork with US law enforcement and gets almost Cart Blanche immunity as it’s already a honeypot. You people are such homosexuals

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >People are mad at my bullshit, this means I am winning

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    When russia loses... there will be a massive silence in shilling for them as soon as payments cease. A great silence and peace not only in Ukraine.. but also on the internet. The shills will go back to scrubbing shit out of the gutters and whatever 3rd world country they come from.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Have you taken back eastern Ukraine yet?
    seen this posted a few times now, and it always seem to do good
    its shit bait, but the results speak for themselves
    7/10

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's exactly why I don't mind them.
      it gets a lot of (You)s which just keeps bumping up threads that ziggers ostensibly hate.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fun fact, average salary in russia went up by 22% since the start of this war , which means cost of labor in russia went up by 22% as well

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Frick off, moron. The 3 days propaganda was all ruzzky idiotic spewing.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >payments to mobik family
    ya I don’t think that’s happening lol. At least not until the war is over and Russia recovers from the brink of economic collapse

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A bag of potatoes is still a payment anon

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's not how Kharkov offensive is supposed to work.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The government doesn't want you to know this, but the mobiks in Ukraine are free.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cost of state provided gear
    They aren't provided any gear.
    >cost of training
    They aren't trained.
    >payment to mobik and mobik's family upon expiration
    They don't get paid.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it a crime to have a nice day or to ask someone else to do it? Technically you're destroying state property right?

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