Roight chap the new roifle should just be a miniature 5.56 Warrior the blokes can hold in their arms. The little turret would aim itself and be fed with 3 rounds en-bloc clips.
Alternatively soldiers could sit on the thing and roll around thanks to miniature tracks and engine, giving each foot soldier off road mobility.
AI literally consisted of a couple guys in a shed pretending not to be a couple guys in a shed when inspectors come around. They benefitted from handfitting every single gun they made by a small team of experts.
That doesn't translate well to hundreds of thousands of standard infantry rifles. Being able to mass produce a design is part of the quality of a design.
You don't get to do the shed thing if you stop doing the shed thing.
The green meanie not being traditionally mass produced is what allowed it to work on the level it did. That isn't an option for a standard infantry rifle.
yeah but the british empire was literally a couple of guys in london pretending not to be a couple of guys in london when the continental types came around. they benefitted from tea and not liking foreigners very much. so i mean that's fine.
It needs to have a mount for a spoon and a solid piece of bar in place of the barrel and come in rainbow pride for the civilian reenactors.
The military one shall be equipped with a spork have a barrel chambered in a traditional caliber like 455 webley and a built in timer/alarm to notify the user when it is time to pray to Mecca.
>here
very organic, John Smith from Rutland Oblast
It needs to have a mount for a spoon and a solid piece of bar in place of the barrel and come in rainbow pride for the civilian reenactors.
The military one shall be equipped with a spork have a barrel chambered in a traditional caliber like 455 webley and a built in timer/alarm to notify the user when it is time to pray to Mecca.
>noguns butterknife gay muslims
Daring today, aren't we
If their small arms industry does what a chunk of their car industry did and moves (ownership plus factories) to India the next rifle could be the AK-203.
It will get an L-designation and all the squaddies on the internet will be "this is the best rifle! most accurate/liked it" At some point levels of cope become overt moronicness and I could see such a shameful happening.
Just make it something that isn't british. American, German, Italian, whatever. Even French.
As long as it's not British it won't go horribly wrong and be an embarrassment to the nation for decades to come.
Wait to see if the NGSW is a fad or if it's here to stay, then act accordingly. The L85A3 is fine for now and actually a pretty decent rifle, especially with the L129A1 being put in the hands of so many.
Obviously an AR. They've wanted an AR for years, constantly pretending they don't, but any time an individual unit have the luxury of choice they get ARs. Did the MPs really need to replace the HK53s? Probably not, but they've got C8s now. Isn't it better that SFSG use the SA80, since they're a cover unit for the SAS/SBS? Maybe, they switched to ARs over a decade ago though. Would a bullpup not be ideal for the marine commandos, considering they're fighting both in tight ship interiors and open seas? You'd think so, but they've got 10" C8s now. Did it matter if the ranger unit were still using SA80s considering they don't even fight and will just be training Africans? Not at all, but they've insisted on an AR of their own. For all the seething bongs on /k/ whiteknighting the SA80, if your ignore what they say and focus on what they do (like with women), you'll see they all want an AR and will accept no substitute.
Its time for bongs to drop the tedious tsundere act and just get ARs. It doesn't have to be off-the-shelf, it could be bespoke and integrate all the improvements of the last 50 years with a big monolithic upper and ambi lower and maybe even a folding stock; something distinctive and unique to them that they can be proud of. Just not manufactured locally, bong domestic industry has always been shitty. Remember that Clarkson bit about a guy driving his brand new British car off the lot and having the windscreen fall out and smash on the bonnet when he crosses the gutter, and having none of the replacement windows fit because the whole chassis was out of spec? Thats what you risk by having your new service rifle manufactured in Swindon or Leeds or wherever bong industry still survives.
No one knows. It's happening during peacetime so there's no pressing need to adopt it full scale. The US hasn't ordered enough to switch the whole army over. The USMC just adopted the IAR and shows no signs of switching away.
America will wait until every other NATO nation has adopted .277 rifles before throwing its toys out of the pram and demanding that everyone switch to .22LR >t. Knower
would be funny to watch the uk adopt it just long enough for hk to start gearing up production. just for them to decide they don't want it anyway. it's like a repeat of the last 2 times germany wanted the g11 >krauts sigh and put it back in the time capsule for the next shithead euro army
I think it is best if they revert to the snider, or enfield rifle musket if not the brown bess. After the intoduction of foreign designs in the martini, lee metford, lee enfield (little more than a smokess ripoff of the swiss vetterlis rear locking lug design) there was just the sten and then weapons like the SLR(teh FAl) and the SA80( fixed by HK). Note that as soon as they stopped purely indigenous weapon design the empire started to crumble.I say in the spirit of Brexit that the new weapon much be a relatively simple affair manufactured in the back steets of birmingham by children that would otherwise be asking strangers for cigarettes supervised by men of northern England who are barely literate with accountancy performed by Wesel faced Scots Presbyterians using quills. When ready it must be carried ceremoniously by the highest earning members of the conservative party and then given to the royal hindoo who will then allow King Charles to smell it . If the smell is favourable it will be adopted unless the ERG in teh conservative party are unhappy with it in any way. The colour will be decided by a daily mail online poll which Russians can easily manipulate to ensure a pink result. Perhaps a boy from Eaton can do a drawing of a good design. It has to be good enough to steal a Zulu magic bead by right of conquest to be inserted into the royal ceremonial hat, the source of all power in the UK (I wish I was joking).
300.blk subsonic bullpup with integrated suppressor
As side arm/ pdw
20 round flush mag with subsonic
100 round mag with high velocity tracer
(For sof silent killing/ lmg for suppressing things)
30mm recoilless, caseless, bullpup.
With programmable airburst, sabot, he rounds
As main infantry weapon
(For killing all things)
quite frankly I don't care what it is, so long as it's lighter than the SLR and comes WITH A FRICKING SUPPRESSOR
ideally it would also be reliable, accurate, and simple, but I'm not that delusional
just get the HK416 and call it a day. French army uses it, Norwegian army uses it, US marine corps uses it, German army will be using it, all special forces around the world are using it
>French army uses it, Norwegian army uses it, US marine corps uses it, German army will be using it
so it's the rifle for morons and homosexuals then. hard pass.
>all special forces around the world are using it
they're not, no. and the only ones that count are using good old fashioned direct impingement ars. frick you're gay.
Go back to a semi-automatic battle rifle like the SLR >slightly cheaper in ammunition use at the cost of greatly reduced fighting capability >extremely difficult to break against even the hardest Argie skull >powerful enough to punch through multiple Irish rioters and obliterate a nearby pram occupant
https://www.army-technology.com/news/new-british-army-special-operations-rifle-could-influence-sa80-replacement/
What ever it is it'll probably use the same ammo as the next gen US rifle.
It'll be a HK rifle I imagine because bongland owns part of the company.
whatever it is it better have a 3 round clip, otherwise I will be disappointed and I know I wont be the only one.
what
Roight chap the new roifle should just be a miniature 5.56 Warrior the blokes can hold in their arms. The little turret would aim itself and be fed with 3 rounds en-bloc clips.
Alternatively soldiers could sit on the thing and roll around thanks to miniature tracks and engine, giving each foot soldier off road mobility.
Anything NOT designed and built in the UK should be fine
not a fan of accuracy international?
AI literally consisted of a couple guys in a shed pretending not to be a couple guys in a shed when inspectors come around. They benefitted from handfitting every single gun they made by a small team of experts.
That doesn't translate well to hundreds of thousands of standard infantry rifles. Being able to mass produce a design is part of the quality of a design.
>was
key word. Colt was once one guy.
You don't get to do the shed thing if you stop doing the shed thing.
The green meanie not being traditionally mass produced is what allowed it to work on the level it did. That isn't an option for a standard infantry rifle.
yeah but the british empire was literally a couple of guys in london pretending not to be a couple of guys in london when the continental types came around. they benefitted from tea and not liking foreigners very much. so i mean that's fine.
if dubs it has to be a rail-gun firing butter knives, cooling system doubles as boiling vessel.
It needs to have a mount for a spoon and a solid piece of bar in place of the barrel and come in rainbow pride for the civilian reenactors.
The military one shall be equipped with a spork have a barrel chambered in a traditional caliber like 455 webley and a built in timer/alarm to notify the user when it is time to pray to Mecca.
Seethe some more old chap.
As long as it's bullpup I don't care.
Buy fricking Diemacos or HK416 and be done with it.
No need to overthink it.
They're now just Colt Canada. Which also makes them part of the CZ family. And CZ will probably try to get them to buy BREN II's.
Boatload of ak47s pointed directly at the US bases here until they leave
>until they leave here
do you have any idea how much americans pay for bases here?
>here
very organic, John Smith from Rutland Oblast
>noguns butterknife gay muslims
Daring today, aren't we
the adults are talking, tankie
t. Jeremy Corbyn from Islington Oblast
>Jeremy Corbyn
I may have no love for the tories, but Jezza was un-fricking-electable.
The man is a case study in all the failings a pacifist politician can bring to the table.
If their small arms industry does what a chunk of their car industry did and moves (ownership plus factories) to India the next rifle could be the AK-203.
It will get an L-designation and all the squaddies on the internet will be "this is the best rifle! most accurate/liked it" At some point levels of cope become overt moronicness and I could see such a shameful happening.
Just get a C rifles from Canada because we all know they will never stoop to ask America for M rifles.
The SAS have already done that for years. C4 carbines.
As long as it's not just an old 90s era SA80 receiver fitted with more polymer it'll be an upgrade.
FAMAS HON HON HON!
I believe the preferable designers are a small group of autists working out of their garage.
C7 or HK416
Simple as
keep the SA80. It looks fly as hell.
A full-auto M14 chambered in .303.
the NGSW winner
also a great choice
>The NGSW winner
Sig won, cope
C8
Just make it something that isn't british. American, German, Italian, whatever. Even French.
As long as it's not British it won't go horribly wrong and be an embarrassment to the nation for decades to come.
Just get some Canadian C7 or C8s, better than the American rifles, and it’s already used a lot by Brits
Glock AR 15
Finally, a good AR.
Palmetto State ARs with Anderson lowers. SAS and the like get PSA Sabres.
It'll be a Colt Canada XM5 clone.
Hate to be a buzzkill but the govt would most likely just continue buying from Colt Canada with the LMT mono upper
Wait to see if the NGSW is a fad or if it's here to stay, then act accordingly. The L85A3 is fine for now and actually a pretty decent rifle, especially with the L129A1 being put in the hands of so many.
LS swapped Rolles Royce
You know those limey fricks aren't coming up with a better idea.
nah dude, rolls royce swapped corvette. and by rolls royce swapped i mean trent.
em-2 in .264 licc
licc me balls lmfao
Obviously an AR. They've wanted an AR for years, constantly pretending they don't, but any time an individual unit have the luxury of choice they get ARs. Did the MPs really need to replace the HK53s? Probably not, but they've got C8s now. Isn't it better that SFSG use the SA80, since they're a cover unit for the SAS/SBS? Maybe, they switched to ARs over a decade ago though. Would a bullpup not be ideal for the marine commandos, considering they're fighting both in tight ship interiors and open seas? You'd think so, but they've got 10" C8s now. Did it matter if the ranger unit were still using SA80s considering they don't even fight and will just be training Africans? Not at all, but they've insisted on an AR of their own. For all the seething bongs on /k/ whiteknighting the SA80, if your ignore what they say and focus on what they do (like with women), you'll see they all want an AR and will accept no substitute.
Its time for bongs to drop the tedious tsundere act and just get ARs. It doesn't have to be off-the-shelf, it could be bespoke and integrate all the improvements of the last 50 years with a big monolithic upper and ambi lower and maybe even a folding stock; something distinctive and unique to them that they can be proud of. Just not manufactured locally, bong domestic industry has always been shitty. Remember that Clarkson bit about a guy driving his brand new British car off the lot and having the windscreen fall out and smash on the bonnet when he crosses the gutter, and having none of the replacement windows fit because the whole chassis was out of spec? Thats what you risk by having your new service rifle manufactured in Swindon or Leeds or wherever bong industry still survives.
Is .277 Fury expected to be a NATO standard from now on or are the burgers going to flip flop and go back to 556?
No one knows. It's happening during peacetime so there's no pressing need to adopt it full scale. The US hasn't ordered enough to switch the whole army over. The USMC just adopted the IAR and shows no signs of switching away.
America will wait until every other NATO nation has adopted .277 rifles before throwing its toys out of the pram and demanding that everyone switch to .22LR
>t. Knower
short barrelled slr with a collapsible stock chambered in .303 frickthedarkies with all-wood furniture
looks like empire's back on the menu boys
Hopefully it'll be in .270 British
I would call H&K and ask if they can do something like the G11 again.
would be funny to watch the uk adopt it just long enough for hk to start gearing up production. just for them to decide they don't want it anyway. it's like a repeat of the last 2 times germany wanted the g11
>krauts sigh and put it back in the time capsule for the next shithead euro army
its going to be another piston AR and you know it
Updated and locally manufactured Colt-C8 with (so what SBS/SAS already use) but with 40 round mags.
Squad level DMR/XM-25.
Good enuff four are boys
The M16 Don't mess with the perfection of stoner.
Now send me my check King Charles.
Finns and swedes seem to know what they want.
And what they want is AR's, DMR's and snipers made by SAKO.
nobody asked.
why does it need a new rifle?
Because WW3 is about to kick off and they're going to need to build a lot of guns.
I think it is best if they revert to the snider, or enfield rifle musket if not the brown bess. After the intoduction of foreign designs in the martini, lee metford, lee enfield (little more than a smokess ripoff of the swiss vetterlis rear locking lug design) there was just the sten and then weapons like the SLR(teh FAl) and the SA80( fixed by HK). Note that as soon as they stopped purely indigenous weapon design the empire started to crumble.I say in the spirit of Brexit that the new weapon much be a relatively simple affair manufactured in the back steets of birmingham by children that would otherwise be asking strangers for cigarettes supervised by men of northern England who are barely literate with accountancy performed by Wesel faced Scots Presbyterians using quills. When ready it must be carried ceremoniously by the highest earning members of the conservative party and then given to the royal hindoo who will then allow King Charles to smell it . If the smell is favourable it will be adopted unless the ERG in teh conservative party are unhappy with it in any way. The colour will be decided by a daily mail online poll which Russians can easily manipulate to ensure a pink result. Perhaps a boy from Eaton can do a drawing of a good design. It has to be good enough to steal a Zulu magic bead by right of conquest to be inserted into the royal ceremonial hat, the source of all power in the UK (I wish I was joking).
Based on the current demographic trend an AK variant would be the most culturally appropriate for the fighting age male population.
300.blk subsonic bullpup with integrated suppressor
As side arm/ pdw
20 round flush mag with subsonic
100 round mag with high velocity tracer
(For sof silent killing/ lmg for suppressing things)
30mm recoilless, caseless, bullpup.
With programmable airburst, sabot, he rounds
As main infantry weapon
(For killing all things)
I dunno but they should repeal the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 so I can have one whatever it is
Mag fed martini for home service, C7/C8 for over seas.
forward operating
full power polymer cartridge
domestic made
>picrel 1 minute sketcj
quite frankly I don't care what it is, so long as it's lighter than the SLR and comes WITH A FRICKING SUPPRESSOR
ideally it would also be reliable, accurate, and simple, but I'm not that delusional
Retvrn to where it all went wrong.
Heck yes.
Is there any reason you couldn't make one of these with modern materials and optics?
An AR, and if they want to go full Euro Autism they can make it short stroke piston
just get the HK416 and call it a day. French army uses it, Norwegian army uses it, US marine corps uses it, German army will be using it, all special forces around the world are using it
Bongs are too entrenched in the Bullpup to escape it 99/100s they're gonna choose a bullpup
>French army uses it, Norwegian army uses it, US marine corps uses it, German army will be using it
so it's the rifle for morons and homosexuals then. hard pass.
>all special forces around the world are using it
they're not, no. and the only ones that count are using good old fashioned direct impingement ars. frick you're gay.
Go back to a semi-automatic battle rifle like the SLR
>slightly cheaper in ammunition use at the cost of greatly reduced fighting capability
>extremely difficult to break against even the hardest Argie skull
>powerful enough to punch through multiple Irish rioters and obliterate a nearby pram occupant
>obliterate a nearby pram occupant
Reject assault rifle
Return to battle rifle