>can barely simulate armor correctly even when you're doing the most basic formula-relying shit (AP rounds against cast armor from 1940/50) >struggle the moment you get into complicated spaced armor arrays >decide the best thing to simulate is a fucking meter long steel kinetic penetrator, something you don't have any experience with, against said complicated armor setups >it turns out to be broken as fuck >throw in some poor missile guidance just to snail people even harder
It was probably OK IRL but they decided not to go for it. In WT it's fucking cancer.
Cool concept, ultimately redundant. I want to see how the humvee version would've fared.
But anon its the most realistic vehicular combat game on the planet! Don't you want to have fun getting killed by handholdium naggerwagons? Or shooting the side of a definitely correctly modeled gopnik shitheap famous for their wet ammo storage autoloaders and not sending its turret airborn? Or getting bombed by little timmy who just got his favorite A-10 for his birthday because le funny *brrrrrrt*? Or going up against hordes of chink bots on the high seas in the deadest gamemode outside of heli EC or arcade assault?
>hit vatnig moon launch carousel >no detonation >hit again >two rounds are destroyed, but disappear without detonating >autoloader made of thin air cannot even be damaged >all just coincidence dude
>bombers have been nerfed so hard that if you go into the crew defensive skills page the gunner skill entries are still there >they have a range of like 400m to 500m for the gunner ranges >gaijin hasn't bothered to just remove them since your gunners never do anything >no escorts because they all start on the ground despite the enemy getting 900 air start interceptors that one hit you 95% of the time >your plane is made of actual paper mache btw >fighter retards think bombing bases makes you a cuck or literal irl rapist or something so they lobby for your playstyle to get nerfed every 5 seconds >if your pilots get taken out the bombardier or whatever doesn't get to try to get in the pilots seat ala ground or naval no you just die fucking instantly >this has nothing to do with expensive premium fighters >nothing at all
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dude I fucking hate the people who bitch and cry over the existence of bombers every 5 seconds. No, it's not your hyper zoomer ADHD fueled fighter furball gameplay, it is just dropping bombs. I have fun looking at the airplane, cry about it. I just wish Gaijin could actually design a gamemode to accommodate different types of aircraft appropriately instead of just having glorified TDM to this day.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think people would like bombers more if we had more of an EC setup, where you spawn 80+ km away, have to take off and climb to altitude, drop your bombs then leave. Add a "command radio" mechanic where you can get warned that a bomber flight is inbound, add really good RP bonuses if you fly in formation with other bombers/escort them, get rid of air starts entirely. Give players the option to start in a plane with those restrictions. Add AI AAA/SAMs. Add mandatory night battles at all BRs with flares and such, give Mosquitos the ability to do pathfinding, etc.
I can see why people get extremely salty about bombing if, to them, it's just free SL to the other team/a random guaranteed death every match in GB, but I think with better game design they would come around to bombers.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just wanted to add that if people have a problem with this then they need to get their ADHD treated and nobody gives a fuck about their 30 second attention spans. The causes of 1 death leaving should be fixed and after that 1 death leaving should result in an instant 30 minute timeout on all modes and nations.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think people would like bombers more if we had more of an EC setup, where you spawn 80+ km away, have to take off and climb to altitude, drop your bombs then leave. Add a "command radio" mechanic where you can get warned that a bomber flight is inbound, add really good RP bonuses if you fly in formation with other bombers/escort them, get rid of air starts entirely. Give players the option to start in a plane with those restrictions. Add AI AAA/SAMs. Add mandatory night battles at all BRs with flares and such, give Mosquitos the ability to do pathfinding, etc.
I can see why people get extremely salty about bombing if, to them, it's just free SL to the other team/a random guaranteed death every match in GB, but I think with better game design they would come around to bombers.
Gotta help poor russia somehow. Better add another barely tested prototype with fantasy performance while fucking over minor nations that are in desperate need of support vehicles.
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Proper ARB EC maps will never be a thing because of those same ADHD morons will complain that the maps are too big. Everyone wanted bigger maps because the WW2 maps weren't big enough to support proper faster and faster jets, but then bitched to no end because the games ended up being too long for their youtube short and tik tok addled attention spans. A classic case of "Give me thing. NO NOT LIKE THAT!".
Y'all should really try SB.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'd rather not be reminded of WT's shitty excuse for bomber cockpits
Yeah. I had that experience when I was shooting a T-72 through the LFP over and over with 3BM42 and watched as it shrugged off round after round while the insides (autoloader ammo included) went from yellow to orange >Anything touches my T-80's fuel tanks and I detonate instantly
Uralvagonzavod gets an extra heavy heap of cope on top of all Russian vics
Gotta help poor russia somehow. Better add another barely tested prototype with fantasy performance while fucking over minor nations that are in desperate need of support vehicles.
I think people would like bombers more if we had more of an EC setup, where you spawn 80+ km away, have to take off and climb to altitude, drop your bombs then leave. Add a "command radio" mechanic where you can get warned that a bomber flight is inbound, add really good RP bonuses if you fly in formation with other bombers/escort them, get rid of air starts entirely. Give players the option to start in a plane with those restrictions. Add AI AAA/SAMs. Add mandatory night battles at all BRs with flares and such, give Mosquitos the ability to do pathfinding, etc.
I can see why people get extremely salty about bombing if, to them, it's just free SL to the other team/a random guaranteed death every match in GB, but I think with better game design they would come around to bombers.
Just wanted to add that if people have a problem with this then they need to get their ADHD treated and nobody gives a fuck about their 30 second attention spans. The causes of 1 death leaving should be fixed and after that 1 death leaving should result in an instant 30 minute timeout on all modes and nations.
Proper ARB EC maps will never be a thing because of those same ADHD morons will complain that the maps are too big. Everyone wanted bigger maps because the WW2 maps weren't big enough to support proper faster and faster jets, but then bitched to no end because the games ended up being too long for their youtube short and tik tok addled attention spans. A classic case of "Give me thing. NO NOT LIKE THAT!".
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>waaaahhhh i don't wanna spend 10 minutes getting to the enemy wahhhhhh >complains when bombers get air spawns >complains when enemy tank designed for combat at 3 km+ while on the move at night hits him at 900m >complains when he gets hit by AGM-65
The correct solution is a permaban delivered at 12 AM US time and locking the subreddit until it blows over.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
ARB is a boring mess and can't get better because of the 'earning' mechanics inherent in the game. Everything has to be some symmetric bullshit with carefully calculated RP and SL per minute of gameplay or it won't make sense. Can't have any sort of fun asymmetric modes or objective gameplay. Strat bombers have never had a place in the game and even ground attackers are being made more and more irrelevant because fighter fags can't handle anything that's not just pure TDM.
Even flying fighters is boring as hell because you spend the first five minutes of the match alt-tabbed sideclimbing. Give everyone a free choice of starting altitude and things will get interesting.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Old school war thunder back when ARB was called historical battles was by far so much better than what we have today. Actual asymmetric starts like Norway where the allies took off from carriers with the axis already being airborne. Bombers actually had a job bombing 3 non-respawning bases then destroying the enemy airfield to insta-win the game. These days only the most fanatical B-17 fans bother playing dedicated bombers in top tier, everyone else uses whatever premium vehicle they have to skip them entirely and focus on getting a vastly more useful attackers or multirole fighters. My marineflieger cries knowing that some homosexual in an F4 or Kfir will always get to the bases faster and will be more useful after dropping all their bombs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Old school war thunder back when ARB was called historical battles was by far so much better than what we have today. Actual asymmetric starts like Norway where the allies took off from carriers with the axis already being airborne. Bombers actually had a job bombing 3 non-respawning bases then destroying the enemy airfield to insta-win the game. These days only the most fanatical B-17 fans bother playing dedicated bombers in top tier, everyone else uses whatever premium vehicle they have to skip them entirely and focus on getting a vastly more useful attackers or multirole fighters. My marineflieger cries knowing that some homosexual in an F4 or Kfir will always get to the bases faster and will be more useful after dropping all their bombs.
I just want to dodge player operated SA-2s in my B-52 guys. Gaijin is giving up such an opportunity by pandering to these retards.
I have dropped 2000lb bombs on 2s38's multiple times and they have lived.
Oh well, the snail starts of the OH-58 with 2 hellfires standard so if i get one kill i can kill vatnigs with ease at 10.3.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
be thankful the snail had its annual sale, 2s38s are literally free kills (honorable mention goes to the m118 wolfpacks)
Ive been farming the fuck out of 10.0 sweden off these idiots
Su-25's are great because their damage models are completely fucking broken, you can hit them with an SPAA or IR missile that you can still crawl back to AB if you managed to put out the fire.
I invested early in the Chinese tree.
When the JH-7A came, i grinded for like 3 days since the Taiwanese F-16 i have got a Talisman that i won in a crate.
JH-7A fucking slaps currently, but gayjin doesn't want to give it's Fox-3's. The 1000lb GBU's are also gr8.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
i've actually have not redeemed the su25,
corsairs are fun as fuck (i only wanted them for my BF vietnam nostalgia)
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Saar redeem the Su-25 saar!.
I got the event one and i'm grinding the USSR tree with it, i'm just now reaching jets. I don't really touch the Russia air tree even though it's decent, idk why.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
i've actually have not redeemed the su25,
corsairs are fun as fuck (i only wanted them for my BF vietnam nostalgia)
Its pretty funny when you are in the right spot to just put telephone poles of metal through tanks. However having all your crew in the turret and having to stop to fire makes that thing cancer. Its really good for that wave defense mode thought
yeah
>can barely simulate armor correctly even when you're doing the most basic formula-relying shit (AP rounds against cast armor from 1940/50)
>struggle the moment you get into complicated spaced armor arrays
>decide the best thing to simulate is a fucking meter long steel kinetic penetrator, something you don't have any experience with, against said complicated armor setups
>it turns out to be broken as fuck
>throw in some poor missile guidance just to snail people even harder
It was probably OK IRL but they decided not to go for it. In WT it's fucking cancer.
>asshurt warturd player
serves you right
Bro I'm barely 400 hours in and I already have terminal cancer. I don't understand how people actually pay for this shit..
It gets better if
>ignore the players pretending realism
>avoid FOMO/hoarding vehicles
>don't feed the snail
Cool concept, ultimately redundant. I want to see how the humvee version would've fared.
But anon its the most realistic vehicular combat game on the planet! Don't you want to have fun getting killed by handholdium naggerwagons? Or shooting the side of a definitely correctly modeled gopnik shitheap famous for their wet ammo storage autoloaders and not sending its turret airborn? Or getting bombed by little timmy who just got his favorite A-10 for his birthday because le funny *brrrrrrt*? Or going up against hordes of chink bots on the high seas in the deadest gamemode outside of heli EC or arcade assault?
>hit vatnig moon launch carousel
>no detonation
>hit again
>two rounds are destroyed, but disappear without detonating
>autoloader made of thin air cannot even be damaged
>all just coincidence dude
>bombers have been nerfed so hard that if you go into the crew defensive skills page the gunner skill entries are still there
>they have a range of like 400m to 500m for the gunner ranges
>gaijin hasn't bothered to just remove them since your gunners never do anything
>no escorts because they all start on the ground despite the enemy getting 900 air start interceptors that one hit you 95% of the time
>your plane is made of actual paper mache btw
>fighter retards think bombing bases makes you a cuck or literal irl rapist or something so they lobby for your playstyle to get nerfed every 5 seconds
>if your pilots get taken out the bombardier or whatever doesn't get to try to get in the pilots seat ala ground or naval no you just die fucking instantly
>this has nothing to do with expensive premium fighters
>nothing at all
Dude I fucking hate the people who bitch and cry over the existence of bombers every 5 seconds. No, it's not your hyper zoomer ADHD fueled fighter furball gameplay, it is just dropping bombs. I have fun looking at the airplane, cry about it. I just wish Gaijin could actually design a gamemode to accommodate different types of aircraft appropriately instead of just having glorified TDM to this day.
I think people would like bombers more if we had more of an EC setup, where you spawn 80+ km away, have to take off and climb to altitude, drop your bombs then leave. Add a "command radio" mechanic where you can get warned that a bomber flight is inbound, add really good RP bonuses if you fly in formation with other bombers/escort them, get rid of air starts entirely. Give players the option to start in a plane with those restrictions. Add AI AAA/SAMs. Add mandatory night battles at all BRs with flares and such, give Mosquitos the ability to do pathfinding, etc.
I can see why people get extremely salty about bombing if, to them, it's just free SL to the other team/a random guaranteed death every match in GB, but I think with better game design they would come around to bombers.
Just wanted to add that if people have a problem with this then they need to get their ADHD treated and nobody gives a fuck about their 30 second attention spans. The causes of 1 death leaving should be fixed and after that 1 death leaving should result in an instant 30 minute timeout on all modes and nations.
Y'all should really try SB.
I'd rather not be reminded of WT's shitty excuse for bomber cockpits
Play a fighter that can take bombs.
but it's not a B-17, it's not the same
Yeah. I had that experience when I was shooting a T-72 through the LFP over and over with 3BM42 and watched as it shrugged off round after round while the insides (autoloader ammo included) went from yellow to orange
>Anything touches my T-80's fuel tanks and I detonate instantly
Uralvagonzavod gets an extra heavy heap of cope on top of all Russian vics
Gotta help poor russia somehow. Better add another barely tested prototype with fantasy performance while fucking over minor nations that are in desperate need of support vehicles.
Proper ARB EC maps will never be a thing because of those same ADHD morons will complain that the maps are too big. Everyone wanted bigger maps because the WW2 maps weren't big enough to support proper faster and faster jets, but then bitched to no end because the games ended up being too long for their youtube short and tik tok addled attention spans. A classic case of "Give me thing. NO NOT LIKE THAT!".
>waaaahhhh i don't wanna spend 10 minutes getting to the enemy wahhhhhh
>complains when bombers get air spawns
>complains when enemy tank designed for combat at 3 km+ while on the move at night hits him at 900m
>complains when he gets hit by AGM-65
The correct solution is a permaban delivered at 12 AM US time and locking the subreddit until it blows over.
ARB is a boring mess and can't get better because of the 'earning' mechanics inherent in the game. Everything has to be some symmetric bullshit with carefully calculated RP and SL per minute of gameplay or it won't make sense. Can't have any sort of fun asymmetric modes or objective gameplay. Strat bombers have never had a place in the game and even ground attackers are being made more and more irrelevant because fighter fags can't handle anything that's not just pure TDM.
Even flying fighters is boring as hell because you spend the first five minutes of the match alt-tabbed sideclimbing. Give everyone a free choice of starting altitude and things will get interesting.
Old school war thunder back when ARB was called historical battles was by far so much better than what we have today. Actual asymmetric starts like Norway where the allies took off from carriers with the axis already being airborne. Bombers actually had a job bombing 3 non-respawning bases then destroying the enemy airfield to insta-win the game. These days only the most fanatical B-17 fans bother playing dedicated bombers in top tier, everyone else uses whatever premium vehicle they have to skip them entirely and focus on getting a vastly more useful attackers or multirole fighters. My marineflieger cries knowing that some homosexual in an F4 or Kfir will always get to the bases faster and will be more useful after dropping all their bombs.
I just want to dodge player operated SA-2s in my B-52 guys. Gaijin is giving up such an opportunity by pandering to these retards.
I have dropped 2000lb bombs on 2s38's multiple times and they have lived.
Oh well, the snail starts of the OH-58 with 2 hellfires standard so if i get one kill i can kill vatnigs with ease at 10.3.
be thankful the snail had its annual sale, 2s38s are literally free kills (honorable mention goes to the m118 wolfpacks)
Ive been farming the fuck out of 10.0 sweden off these idiots
>Paying
I've got far many times more hours than you and the snail hasn't gotten a single cent from me as I shoot down BF109s to this very day.
>paying
lol, LMAO even, fucking retard
t. 5000+ hours into the game, 0(Zero) coins given to the snail.
i got the fag1 from one of the battlepasses and my fuck did i grind trough the american air tree when the SU25 event was on. im now addicted to jets
Su-25's are great because their damage models are completely fucking broken, you can hit them with an SPAA or IR missile that you can still crawl back to AB if you managed to put out the fire.
I invested early in the Chinese tree.
When the JH-7A came, i grinded for like 3 days since the Taiwanese F-16 i have got a Talisman that i won in a crate.
JH-7A fucking slaps currently, but gayjin doesn't want to give it's Fox-3's. The 1000lb GBU's are also gr8.
i've actually have not redeemed the su25,
corsairs are fun as fuck (i only wanted them for my BF vietnam nostalgia)
Saar redeem the Su-25 saar!.
I got the event one and i'm grinding the USSR tree with it, i'm just now reaching jets. I don't really touch the Russia air tree even though it's decent, idk why.
sorry
crusader*
>no KD-88's
China saffers bruh ;_:
The trick is never playing beyond 4.0
>he doesnt enjoy dabbing on russian mains with cheese wedges
It should have been the equivalent of the old hull break mechanic, except on MBTs.
Il give it to you the WT LOSAT is absolute trash but thats their fault
its was pretty good ut it was not made by someone who bribed congress enought
do you want our take so you can justify your purchase in war thunder?
its shit in War Thunder so it woulda been shit in real life.
By far the most kino 11 seconds on youtube:
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Its pretty funny when you are in the right spot to just put telephone poles of metal through tanks. However having all your crew in the turret and having to stop to fire makes that thing cancer. Its really good for that wave defense mode thought
The CKEM follow-on program would have shrunk it to half the size and only a couple hundred pounds while actually *increasing* the penetration.
anyone else grinding for the tog meme tank
ffs just send a wiesel instead. You can even airlift it in/out with a helicopter if needed