I like the FM-15 but I doubt it’s as quality as the Bren or XCR. I also prefer pistons for do everything guns, I build DI AR’s when I want a precision semi-auto rifle
Who cares about quality, gun has an HK Indexing handguard and upper. They could've put this crap at $800 and I wouldn't even be mad about it. The fact that they didn't mark it up like every other manufacturer making their own copy cat bufferless piston AR is a god send.
because it looks fricking moronic. why they had to put the charging handle on the side and therefore having to elongate the whole fricking thing (making it not compatible with regular aftermarket handguards) is beyond me
piston is superior in every way unless you're a purist and want to use what the US Military adopted to save weight and parts, but it is worth it to be a purist just to feel authentic.
I have the 16” wolf upper, not worth it. No deflector, doesn’t cycle with certain mags (sneedfeeds, lancers), heavy af barrel profile, finnicky handguard system, no aftermarket. Maybe better in the 12” option because of the weight but only maybe
The wolf is just an upper so you have to get the buffer and spring yourself.
H2 buffer + tubb flat wire spring is perfection.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks, I'm thinking about getting the Wolf to build my first AR and I don't have all the parts completely memorized yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Could someone rec me a good budget lower to use with a Wolf upper. I'm making up a checklist of everything I need for this project.
Upper, lower, buttstock, buffer tube and spring, trigger, pistol grip, rear sight, magazines. Am I missing anything?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>budget lower
Aero, Anderson, or PSA. If you're buying it in a store, look it over to see that it's not horribly marred or uneven or shit.
This channel is really interesting if you want to build your own, goes into maybe autistic detail and he has all kinds of special gauges and jigs he uses, but it'll teach you about a few particular things to watch out for, and how to deal with some of them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks, friend.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I really like the thing he does with the gap between the gas key and and buffer tube housing.
Without a gauge, you can determine if there's enough gap between them by seeing if two US quarters can fit in that gap between them when the bolt carrier is bottomed out. If they can't, what you can do is to put one of those quarters in the buffer tube as a spacer to even out the gap, so that you don't have the gas key and receiver battering each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Instructor CHAD is based beyond petty things, like autism, and cringe. he is an ascended being.
The forward assist would be purely ornamental on a gas piston upper.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unless that upper includes a reciprocating charging handle, which I do not see, then I am going to declare that your statement makes you a moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'd think but no. Here's a video where the guy talks about the bolts for a normal AR and the Wolf.
?t=166
As you can see the Wolf bolt carrier doesn't have the indentations for the forward assist to grip onto.
Maybe I didn't explain myself very well before but there's your proper explanation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well yes, obviously the carrier would need to have the serrations cut into it for the forward assist to be able to do anything with it, but I thought that would be pretty damn obviously implied when I stated that I wanted a forward assist on a gun like that. Nothing precludes this kind of gun from having a forward assist plunger and the corresponding serrations on its carrier, that gun there just doesn't have them.
I could modify a conventional upper receiver with a forward assist to replace the slickside one Wolf provides there, then cut the needed slots in that carrier for it to engage into. Hell, I could go feral bubba and dremel out a slot in the side of the receiver, drill a hole into the side of the carrier, and then J,B Weld in a longass carpentry nail wrapped in tape and use that as a charging-handle/forward assist on that rifle.
It's like I said I really wish I could have a transferable MP5k with a silencer, and then you tell me "Actually, that wouldn't work, because you need to use special replacement rollers so the added backpressure doesn't make the action beat the gun to pieces."
Actually it's worse because your statement doesn't even make sense, in
The forward assist would be purely ornamental on a gas piston upper.
you say that a forward assist would be ornamental on a gas piston upper, where you really make it sound like you're arguing that a piston would somehow prevent a forward assist from functioning, or make it not necessary, when in fact there are piston AR15s with forward assists, such as the HK416 or Ruger SR556
You're really frustrating me, Anon. I'm gonna go get something to drink.
>PSA quality control
Pass.
They should have made a proprietary stock instead of that rail garbage.
Also PSA needs to stock coming out with new shit and focus on keeping what they already make in stock.
neither do you and reloading 300blk is still expensive lmao. you're just mad im shitting on 'based' PSA.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not him but I do reload 300aac. I bulk load subsonic 220gr cast bullets and it’s not that expensive, definitely under 50c a round (even before amortizing brass)
2 years ago
Anonymous
300blk is a duty round not a plinking round you dumb homosexual. Also, you must be terribly poor if you think 60cpr is prohibitively expensive. My CC load uses 90 cpr ammo and I train with that weekly.
https://i.imgur.com/sRVZb1y.jpg
seems like a downgrade from my brn 180
>never in fricking stock
The AR's charging handle is not a complaint I have on the design. It's only used during admin processes negating the need to have it forward mounted, and it's useable ambi even without an aftermarket handle or swapping it between sides. Most importantly you don't cater your optic, MFAL, and switch placement to facilitate ease of access/not running your knuckles across them.
The problem isn't the ergos, it's that it shits gas in your face with a suppressor on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's that it shits gas in your face with a suppressor on.
You can get a charging handle that deflects gasses. Might be a good purchase if you're running a suppressor,
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Also, you must be terribly poor if you think 60cpr is prohibitively expensive.
I mostly shoot 22lr.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's ok bro.
If you want a good poorgay rifle, then a .223 or 7.62x39mm really would let you shoot a lot more for your money. Ruger makes their American in the latter caliber if you want that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Me too .22 is my favorite round. I’ve got a Henry lever action, and a TX22. Soon I’ll get a 22 Charger. I have a brace and a suppressor to share between the TX22 and the Charger.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Soon I’ll get a 22 Charger.
Try and get the one with the mount for a folding stock on the back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I agree. I have a brace for it that I’m taking off my 9mm Charger.
It isn't my rifle, I just don't think a lower doesn't matter that much unless it's totally fricked. If you can look at one before you buy it and see that it's ok, it's not like the thing is going to just wither away because it had Aero stamped on it.
It actually looks like a decent lower, and a lower really just needs to not be completely fricked so there's that.
You should have gone with the American flag one though, brother dude.
There's extremely few guns commonly available these days which are actually .223-only, such as the Target model of the Mini-14, where Ruger makes it explicitly clear that this model is not rated for 5.56mm like the other Mini-14s and that shooting that will void your warranty.
You can safely assume that any .223 labeled gun is actually a 5.56mm gun unless the manufacturer goes out of their way to clarify that it truly is .223-only, be it hunting rifles, modern sporters, what have you. This has been the case for quite some time.
The BRN-180 has two buffer springs, that's 100% more buffer springs than the Jakl.
But the Jakl has a non-reciprocating left-side charging handle. It's a stiff competition for sure.
The M5 has a charging handle, sadly. To be frank it might need one for left handed use. I can't imagine how a left handed shooter would charge a rifle that has a handle on the left side of the gun's body.
The AR's charging handle is not a complaint I have on the design. It's only used during admin processes negating the need to have it forward mounted, and it's useable ambi even without an aftermarket handle or swapping it between sides. Most importantly you don't cater your optic, MFAL, and switch placement to facilitate ease of access/not running your knuckles across them.
Your last point is interesting, because the rear charging handle does get in the way of some optics. It also requires you because your shooting stance. Generally it's not an issue,. With last round hold open, you only use the charging handle once and just hit the bolt release to chamber the first round on reloads. But if you have a jam and almost zero time to fix it, racking the charging handle is the action with single highest chance of clearing the malfunction. This is an action that is slower to perform with a rear charging handle than a side charging handle.
>This is an action that is slower to perform with a rear charging handle than a side charging handle.
I don't get people who act like moving your hands a few more inches to grab a rear charging handle is some incredibly unwieldy ordeal. If you prefer it more or just straight up think it looks cool that's all good, but the typical AR-15 charging handle works fine, an extra tenth of a second to rack a round in is an easy price to pay for something that's simple and innately ambidextrous.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You have to break your cheek weld and unshoulder your rifle to rack a rear charging handle. With a side charger, you just rack it. It's faster and lets you get back on target quicker.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the case where you'd need to use the charging handle your going to break cheek weld anyway. Either to tap-rack-bang and clear/inspect a stoppage, or to load a new mag and drop the bolt. You can always reload without lowering the rifle, but I try to larp to cover first and end up breaking it anyway.
t. XCR
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You have to break your cheek weld
That's fair enough. I'd question how often anyone would find it incredibly advantageous to manually cycle a gun while holding a sight picture (or the wisdom of just trying to sling another round in without even looking to see what the stoppage might be), but it's still a point in it's favor, and I never denied that a side charger feels slick as frick compared to the slight awkwardness of a rear charger. >unshoulder your rifle
Have you actually never held an AR15? There's nothing about a rear charging handle that requires you to unshoulder the rifle to use it. >It's faster and lets you get back on target quicker.
That's true, I just don't think it's enough of a difference to be worth acting like it's innately superior to something that's simple and ambidextrous without requiring either switching shit around or having a couple of dongles hanging off of either side of the rifle.
I am also curious but time will tell. You’d think (a big think) that a new product line that undercuts several other manufacturers that do something similar would demand a little more quality and attention to service
I wish they took AR mags. Sig should design one that does and try to sell it to the army as a M4 replacement. There's no way everyone is going to be able to handle the Spear in .277.
>people turning the adjustable gas piston to launch out hte gun when fired setting. there are youtube videos about it, and PSA was fast as frick on it.
sounds hilarious
Long-stroke and rotating bolt with Stoner lugs (a bit like the Stoner 63, then), has its appeal, and it's nice to see the option on the market.
No idea if it's good, but I guess I'll just have to read reviews and talk to people who have one.
with the mcx and the m4 and now this I just gotta ask, is the ar buffer tube design actually any good? never being able to fold is a pretty clear downside and all the stuff I've heard about the mcx say it shoots smooth
MCX shoots smooth because it's fricking 10lbs. The buffer tube is an essential part of what makes the AR15 the softest shooting intermediate platform while retaining it's lightweight capabilities.
I know carbines are all the rage but a rifle length gas system with a rifle length buffer is unbelievably smooth, I took the lead buffer weights out of an A1 clone and replaced them with tungsten buffer weights and I've never shot a more pleasant 5.56 rifle in my life
Everyone mad sleeping on rifle length gas. It took Triarc a while to popularize midlength shorties just a few years back and everyone is praising them midlengths as the next big thing.
>people turning the adjustable gas piston to launch out hte gun when fired setting. there are youtube videos about it, and PSA was fast as frick on it.
sounds hilarious
>took em years
and? >uglier
So are its peers. >moronic cartridge
Not really. >Not 300 blk
Coming soon apparently. >What
uwotm8 >Lowest gas setting is not off
Yes it is. >Dumbas boutique company
PSA is one of the largest mass producers of ARs in the world at this point. They are a dog shit circus, but not anything resembling boutique. Supply is an issue across the globe in almost every industry that involves manufacturing. Supply chains are fricked, prices are through the roof and production is in the pits for all manner of raw materials and components.
>frick up AR15 by doing shit like this or tacking on a piston >get more recoil and worse reliability
Just fricking go towards a proper AR18 action instead, goddamn.
they use a standard AR lower, while deleting the buffer tube. they cope with a shorter bolt carrier. however, the travel distance is still significantly shorter than a standard AR15. this greatly reduces reliability, if the gun is overgassed at all it will be more prone to outrun the magazine. If you look at a REAL AR-180, note how long the lower is. thats for a reason.
Is the ultimate side-folding piston AR really just the AK-101? >buffer spring in-line with piston so no wearing from carrier tilt >oversized bolt never cracks or shears lugs >fully curved mags account for subtle taper of 5.56 case and eliminate feeding issues
So the 108? The SR1 and KSO-18 were ready for export but then the Very Bad Thing happened so you're not getting one of those.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/11/balanced-recoil-sporting-rifles-a-brief-history-sr-1-saiga-107-ak15/
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/09/27/russian-kso18-balanced-action-competition-rifle/
In the mean time I see quite a few people enjoying 102-likes in competitions.
Well they actually fixed an issue right off the bat and offered to fix it for others so I think they’re a step above sig.
Why not Bren 2 or XCR? I’m guessing the JAKL is a bit cheaper?
Why not something like th FM15 which is still based on Chad stoner DI gassing?
Because pistons are fine.
I like the FM-15 but I doubt it’s as quality as the Bren or XCR. I also prefer pistons for do everything guns, I build DI AR’s when I want a precision semi-auto rifle
Who cares about quality, gun has an HK Indexing handguard and upper. They could've put this crap at $800 and I wouldn't even be mad about it. The fact that they didn't mark it up like every other manufacturer making their own copy cat bufferless piston AR is a god send.
Like I said, I like it. I just prolly wouldn’t make it my go-to rifle. I’ll probably pick on up eventually t b h
Still have yet to shoot my FM15
because it looks fricking moronic. why they had to put the charging handle on the side and therefore having to elongate the whole fricking thing (making it not compatible with regular aftermarket handguards) is beyond me
piston is superior in every way unless you're a purist and want to use what the US Military adopted to save weight and parts, but it is worth it to be a purist just to feel authentic.
Both the XCR and Bren are 2k+ and entirely proprietary while the Jackal is $800 and can be dropped on top of a $40 AR lower
True, although the Bren can be found new for less and the XCR used for much less.
Both guns I like. I like them allllawt.
I own ‘em both and you should too. You are a gentleman of discernment
Wolf piston upper is better.
Wolf A1 Gas Piston upper.
https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/wolf-a1-gas-piston-ar15-upper-receiver-review/376784
I'm intrigued. Anyone have one of these?
No, but I want one.
I have the 16” wolf upper, not worth it. No deflector, doesn’t cycle with certain mags (sneedfeeds, lancers), heavy af barrel profile, finnicky handguard system, no aftermarket. Maybe better in the 12” option because of the weight but only maybe
Thanks for the feedback, you think there's a better option for a fairly affordable gas piston AR upper?
Don't listen to him my he probably just didn't have the correct buffer weight
Should the stock one be swapped out?
The wolf is just an upper so you have to get the buffer and spring yourself.
H2 buffer + tubb flat wire spring is perfection.
Thanks, I'm thinking about getting the Wolf to build my first AR and I don't have all the parts completely memorized yet.
Could someone rec me a good budget lower to use with a Wolf upper. I'm making up a checklist of everything I need for this project.
Upper, lower, buttstock, buffer tube and spring, trigger, pistol grip, rear sight, magazines. Am I missing anything?
>budget lower
Aero, Anderson, or PSA. If you're buying it in a store, look it over to see that it's not horribly marred or uneven or shit.
This channel is really interesting if you want to build your own, goes into maybe autistic detail and he has all kinds of special gauges and jigs he uses, but it'll teach you about a few particular things to watch out for, and how to deal with some of them.
Thanks, friend.
I really like the thing he does with the gap between the gas key and and buffer tube housing.
Without a gauge, you can determine if there's enough gap between them by seeing if two US quarters can fit in that gap between them when the bolt carrier is bottomed out. If they can't, what you can do is to put one of those quarters in the buffer tube as a spacer to even out the gap, so that you don't have the gas key and receiver battering each other.
Instructor CHAD is based beyond petty things, like autism, and cringe. he is an ascended being.
I have the 12.5 and love it, the barrel profile is actually better on it too.
wolf chuds rise up
Isn't it literally just a Wolf branded T91 import from Best China?
Yes and they look quite nice with a KP15 lower
That actually looks fricking nice. Add a forward assist and aluminum mag and I'm in love.
The forward assist would be purely ornamental on a gas piston upper.
Unless that upper includes a reciprocating charging handle, which I do not see, then I am going to declare that your statement makes you a moron.
You'd think but no. Here's a video where the guy talks about the bolts for a normal AR and the Wolf.
?t=166
As you can see the Wolf bolt carrier doesn't have the indentations for the forward assist to grip onto.
Maybe I didn't explain myself very well before but there's your proper explanation.
Well yes, obviously the carrier would need to have the serrations cut into it for the forward assist to be able to do anything with it, but I thought that would be pretty damn obviously implied when I stated that I wanted a forward assist on a gun like that. Nothing precludes this kind of gun from having a forward assist plunger and the corresponding serrations on its carrier, that gun there just doesn't have them.
I could modify a conventional upper receiver with a forward assist to replace the slickside one Wolf provides there, then cut the needed slots in that carrier for it to engage into. Hell, I could go feral bubba and dremel out a slot in the side of the receiver, drill a hole into the side of the carrier, and then J,B Weld in a longass carpentry nail wrapped in tape and use that as a charging-handle/forward assist on that rifle.
It's like I said I really wish I could have a transferable MP5k with a silencer, and then you tell me "Actually, that wouldn't work, because you need to use special replacement rollers so the added backpressure doesn't make the action beat the gun to pieces."
Actually it's worse because your statement doesn't even make sense, in
you say that a forward assist would be ornamental on a gas piston upper, where you really make it sound like you're arguing that a piston would somehow prevent a forward assist from functioning, or make it not necessary, when in fact there are piston AR15s with forward assists, such as the HK416 or Ruger SR556
You're really frustrating me, Anon. I'm gonna go get something to drink.
As I said I didn't explain myself well.
Holy SOUL
I have one, it's a little overgassed but it's nice
Sold mine. I liked it but wanted side charging and something foldable. It was very reliable.
the wolf is side foldable. I bought a spare bolt, sent it in to deadfoot arms, and now it folds. as for side charging, you can't win them all.
It's not because you're still cucked into needing a buffer tube
Folding stocks are not important.
>the entire point
>your head
>PSA quality control
Pass.
They should have made a proprietary stock instead of that rail garbage.
Also PSA needs to stock coming out with new shit and focus on keeping what they already make in stock.
PA10 Desirer, is that you?
shorten the barrel to like 7" and make it 300 memeout and i'm in
if im paying for 300bo i want my rifle made by a good company.
cool story
its 60cpr or more a round my man. a single range trip costs as much as a cheap 300blk rifle.
>he doesnt reload
neither do you and reloading 300blk is still expensive lmao. you're just mad im shitting on 'based' PSA.
Not him but I do reload 300aac. I bulk load subsonic 220gr cast bullets and it’s not that expensive, definitely under 50c a round (even before amortizing brass)
300blk is a duty round not a plinking round you dumb homosexual. Also, you must be terribly poor if you think 60cpr is prohibitively expensive. My CC load uses 90 cpr ammo and I train with that weekly.
>never in fricking stock
The problem isn't the ergos, it's that it shits gas in your face with a suppressor on.
>it's that it shits gas in your face with a suppressor on.
You can get a charging handle that deflects gasses. Might be a good purchase if you're running a suppressor,
>Also, you must be terribly poor if you think 60cpr is prohibitively expensive.
I mostly shoot 22lr.
It's ok bro.
If you want a good poorgay rifle, then a .223 or 7.62x39mm really would let you shoot a lot more for your money. Ruger makes their American in the latter caliber if you want that.
Me too .22 is my favorite round. I’ve got a Henry lever action, and a TX22. Soon I’ll get a 22 Charger. I have a brace and a suppressor to share between the TX22 and the Charger.
>Soon I’ll get a 22 Charger.
Try and get the one with the mount for a folding stock on the back.
I agree. I have a brace for it that I’m taking off my 9mm Charger.
Less like a MCX competitor and more like an knockoff of the unobtainium kac pdw
>kac pdw
still has the moronicly placed charging handle from a typical AR15.
seems like a downgrade from my brn 180
Gross.
>That giant gross "A" marked Aero upper
Black person tier
>upper
Would a fancy branded KAC lower be better?
Yes, especially if it had an SR15 upper on it.
Nah, that'd just out you as being too moronic to make good purchasing decisions. Small A Aero's are more aesthetic though.
It isn't my rifle, I just don't think a lower doesn't matter that much unless it's totally fricked. If you can look at one before you buy it and see that it's ok, it's not like the thing is going to just wither away because it had Aero stamped on it.
It's a nice lower THOUGH. Feels good in the hand. It was the A or the american flag
It actually looks like a decent lower, and a lower really just needs to not be completely fricked so there's that.
You should have gone with the American flag one though, brother dude.
>The scarlet A
henlo fellow BRN owner, I love my longboi
that thing is sick. I want to get a full length even though I already have a nice di upper
it's neat to have something different instead of 2 basically identical ar15s
Are these rated for 5.56 or just .223?
There's extremely few guns commonly available these days which are actually .223-only, such as the Target model of the Mini-14, where Ruger makes it explicitly clear that this model is not rated for 5.56mm like the other Mini-14s and that shooting that will void your warranty.
You can safely assume that any .223 labeled gun is actually a 5.56mm gun unless the manufacturer goes out of their way to clarify that it truly is .223-only, be it hunting rifles, modern sporters, what have you. This has been the case for quite some time.
The BRN-180 has two buffer springs, that's 100% more buffer springs than the Jakl.
But the Jakl has a non-reciprocating left-side charging handle. It's a stiff competition for sure.
Does that get as hot as GT says it does?
let's go!
Are you colorblind?
frick i hope not!
I have that same brace. Can you tell me where you bought that cheek rest?
Reminds me a lot of this
Non-folding stocks on SBRs are dumb as frick. It's only excusable if the weapon has a buffer tube.
It's just a folding stock, it isn't that big of a deal.
feels like the days of the moronic buffertube and moronicly placed charging handles are finally at an end.
The M5 has a charging handle, sadly. To be frank it might need one for left handed use. I can't imagine how a left handed shooter would charge a rifle that has a handle on the left side of the gun's body.
I don't see these outselling the AR15.
The AR's charging handle is not a complaint I have on the design. It's only used during admin processes negating the need to have it forward mounted, and it's useable ambi even without an aftermarket handle or swapping it between sides. Most importantly you don't cater your optic, MFAL, and switch placement to facilitate ease of access/not running your knuckles across them.
Your last point is interesting, because the rear charging handle does get in the way of some optics. It also requires you because your shooting stance. Generally it's not an issue,. With last round hold open, you only use the charging handle once and just hit the bolt release to chamber the first round on reloads. But if you have a jam and almost zero time to fix it, racking the charging handle is the action with single highest chance of clearing the malfunction. This is an action that is slower to perform with a rear charging handle than a side charging handle.
….why didn’t sig just develop a new drop in upper for the NGSW?
Because nothing about the XM5 or XM250 is well thought out.
Drop in to what? A M4? The 6.8 rounds are 7.62 nato length. You want them to drop into a SR-25 or HK417?
>This is an action that is slower to perform with a rear charging handle than a side charging handle.
I don't get people who act like moving your hands a few more inches to grab a rear charging handle is some incredibly unwieldy ordeal. If you prefer it more or just straight up think it looks cool that's all good, but the typical AR-15 charging handle works fine, an extra tenth of a second to rack a round in is an easy price to pay for something that's simple and innately ambidextrous.
You have to break your cheek weld and unshoulder your rifle to rack a rear charging handle. With a side charger, you just rack it. It's faster and lets you get back on target quicker.
In the case where you'd need to use the charging handle your going to break cheek weld anyway. Either to tap-rack-bang and clear/inspect a stoppage, or to load a new mag and drop the bolt. You can always reload without lowering the rifle, but I try to larp to cover first and end up breaking it anyway.
t. XCR
>You have to break your cheek weld
That's fair enough. I'd question how often anyone would find it incredibly advantageous to manually cycle a gun while holding a sight picture (or the wisdom of just trying to sling another round in without even looking to see what the stoppage might be), but it's still a point in it's favor, and I never denied that a side charger feels slick as frick compared to the slight awkwardness of a rear charger.
>unshoulder your rifle
Have you actually never held an AR15? There's nothing about a rear charging handle that requires you to unshoulder the rifle to use it.
>It's faster and lets you get back on target quicker.
That's true, I just don't think it's enough of a difference to be worth acting like it's innately superior to something that's simple and ambidextrous without requiring either switching shit around or having a couple of dongles hanging off of either side of the rifle.
I fricking hate the AR15's charging handle. Every other gun does it better. Try clearing a malf while prone. What a massive pain in the ass.
I am also curious but time will tell. You’d think (a big think) that a new product line that undercuts several other manufacturers that do something similar would demand a little more quality and attention to service
Waiting on a 300blk version
Just get an MXC or CMMG.
>MXC
If only.
>MXC
I wish they took AR mags. Sig should design one that does and try to sell it to the army as a M4 replacement. There's no way everyone is going to be able to handle the Spear in .277.
Oh wait, I thought you said MCX. Not MXC
MCXs don't take AR mags? What the frick. How is mine taking them, then?
Does the jakl have quick change barrel like the mcx?
>Well they actually fixed an issue right off the bat
what was the issue?
people turning the adjustable gas piston to launch out hte gun when fired setting. there are youtube videos about it, and PSA was fast as frick on it.
based bartoucci enjoyer.
>people turning the adjustable gas piston to launch out hte gun when fired setting. there are youtube videos about it, and PSA was fast as frick on it.
sounds hilarious
11 min in
They called it Jackling Off.
Carlos!
Looks intriguing.
Go buy one and tell us if it sucks.
Long-stroke and rotating bolt with Stoner lugs (a bit like the Stoner 63, then), has its appeal, and it's nice to see the option on the market.
No idea if it's good, but I guess I'll just have to read reviews and talk to people who have one.
with the mcx and the m4 and now this I just gotta ask, is the ar buffer tube design actually any good? never being able to fold is a pretty clear downside and all the stuff I've heard about the mcx say it shoots smooth
MCX shoots smooth because it's fricking 10lbs. The buffer tube is an essential part of what makes the AR15 the softest shooting intermediate platform while retaining it's lightweight capabilities.
yeah it's the buffer tube not the puny ass .223 projectile you fricking moron
AR15s are comparatively smoother shooting than other .223 guns.
I'm sick of hearing this fuddlore. Muh super smooth shooting ars just have bigass buffers which make the gun unreliable.
>I'm just pretending to be moronic
I know carbines are all the rage but a rifle length gas system with a rifle length buffer is unbelievably smooth, I took the lead buffer weights out of an A1 clone and replaced them with tungsten buffer weights and I've never shot a more pleasant 5.56 rifle in my life
Everyone mad sleeping on rifle length gas. It took Triarc a while to popularize midlength shorties just a few years back and everyone is praising them midlengths as the next big thing.
Just shorten the barrel and it gets lighter
It's a cool looking build. What I want to know is what's wrong with it.
This
They fixed it though, so maybe nothing.
Took em years
Even uglier now
moron cartridge
Not 300 blk
What
Lowest gas setting is not off
Dumbass boutique company cant meet demand
>PSA
>boutique company
>sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
>took em years
and?
>uglier
So are its peers.
>moronic cartridge
Not really.
>Not 300 blk
Coming soon apparently.
>What
uwotm8
>Lowest gas setting is not off
Yes it is.
>Dumbas boutique company
PSA is one of the largest mass producers of ARs in the world at this point. They are a dog shit circus, but not anything resembling boutique. Supply is an issue across the globe in almost every industry that involves manufacturing. Supply chains are fricked, prices are through the roof and production is in the pits for all manner of raw materials and components.
where the frick is the psa5
It's been shelved until they can figure out how to produce it while keeping the price ~$1k while making a profit.
Seems interesting, but I'll wait a couple of years to see how it shakes out.
While we're all here, does anybody have anything to say on CMMG's direct impingement solution?
Looks very scifi
Exact same system as the lr-300, fm-15 and almost every other bufferless rifle that uses DI still.
It looks awesome, but why shoot 223/556 out of a barrel that short?
Unless you're into big fireballs then I don't really know. Blackout and WT make sense because they were designed for that, but not 5.56.
>frick up AR15 by doing shit like this or tacking on a piston
>get more recoil and worse reliability
Just fricking go towards a proper AR18 action instead, goddamn.
What's that gun based off of?
Is it their own design?
Lot of poorgay seethe ITT
that, and the brn180, both suck ass
they use a standard AR lower, while deleting the buffer tube. they cope with a shorter bolt carrier. however, the travel distance is still significantly shorter than a standard AR15. this greatly reduces reliability, if the gun is overgassed at all it will be more prone to outrun the magazine. If you look at a REAL AR-180, note how long the lower is. thats for a reason.
Is the ultimate side-folding piston AR really just the AK-101?
>buffer spring in-line with piston so no wearing from carrier tilt
>oversized bolt never cracks or shears lugs
>fully curved mags account for subtle taper of 5.56 case and eliminate feeding issues
Not as modular, harder to mount an optic to it. AKs have their upsides but they aren't perfect.
no. that'd be the AK-107, but chambered in 5.56
So the 108? The SR1 and KSO-18 were ready for export but then the Very Bad Thing happened so you're not getting one of those.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/11/balanced-recoil-sporting-rifles-a-brief-history-sr-1-saiga-107-ak15/
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/09/27/russian-kso18-balanced-action-competition-rifle/
In the mean time I see quite a few people enjoying 102-likes in competitions.
Interesting
Wolf A1 fricks. Got a binary trigger and tubb flat wire buffer spring in mine. Perfect ejection pattern.
ive thought many times about getting the 12"
I was desiring one of those but went with the brn180
what length
>he doesn’t have the superior piston driven rifle
Ngmi
Que?
the jakl is cool because it's ar180 and doesn't have a buffer tube
not because it's piston, that's irrelevant
The JAKL uses a long-stroke piston, you moronic ban evading dograpist.
so?
it still works without a buffer tube
are you having a stroke?
I'm having a long-stroke, because the BRN180 and AR18 use short-stroke pistons.
bro i do not give a frick if it's long, short or DI, the whole idea is it does not need a buffer tube
And you don't need to frick dogs, but here we are.
why the uh-1 tho
Y not?
looks based i hope they sell just the upper so i can do epic projects and diy stuff with it