Thoughts on hunting?
When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
Thoughts on hunting? When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
Thoughts on hunting?
When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
Not cool. Animals are innocent.
>Not cool. Animals are innocent
Nah bro. Hunting is way more humane than buying farmed meat (assuming you don't take unethical shots). The venison I've got in my freezer right now came from an animal that was free to prance around the forest living its best life until right at the end when I came along, then it was a few seconds of pain folliwed by oblivion.
The beef and bacon I've got in my freezer might be organic, grass-fed and certified humane but even so they still live more restricted lives and suffer a more traumatic death than game I take myself.
1000% this, especially the bacon.
Veggie fags defend their shit diets because they have prey eyes, fucked up teeth, a dozen allergies, vitamin deficiencies, and are obese from being agrarian cucks descendant from serf peasant war fodder
There's also the fact that vegan diets are not cruelty-free. Grain for example involves the poisoning of millions if not billions of mice every year. Mice are no less sentient than cows and poisoning is a far worse way to go than a captive bolt gun to the end, involving a slow painful death for whatever mice eat the pain and an even slower death for their pups starving to death in the nest.
Obviously grain-fed beef or pork is the worst of both worlds but shit man, going vegan is not some ethical panacea.
Mice are pests fuck em
>they have prey eyes, fucked up teeth, a dozen allergies, vitamin deficiencies, and are obese from being agrarian cucks descendant from serf peasant war fodder
and heres the crux of the argument. hunters just want to feel like warriors. you just like killing things.
>you just like killing things.
Do you know where you are nigga?
hes the one trying to make up headcanon for why killing something isn't a mean thing to do.
Who said it wasn't mean? Lemme guess: you don't raid /lgbt/ every now and then to tell the tr00ns to rope bc its insensitive? Man up
>Lemme guess: you don't raid /lgbt/ every now and then to tell the tr00ns to rope bc its insensitive?
yeah actually i don't do that.
in europe the main purpose of hunting is to prevent animals becoming pests because rabbits and deer have no natural enemies in countries like germany, netherlands, belgium etc. and there are actually not enough hunters to prevent that, so in the next 10-20 years or so germany will most likely see a big rabbit, hog and deer plague. other critters like beavers are also slowly becoming a big problem for some villages.
Sounds like a self correcting problem tbf
You yuros will get what you deserve trying to spit in the face of God and His children, as always.
the main problem of hunting in germany is its expensive as fuck. you cant just hunt whereever, you need the permit of the land owners, you need a licence to hunt in a specific district and you can only hunt in this one district and youre not just a hunter, as part of the hunting licence is basically being a park ranger. you have to count all the wild animals in your hunting district, you have to check them for diseases, you have to feed and treat them if need be and to cull the sick animals etc. youre also supposed to check the trees, rivers and ponds etc. for damages done by the animals, and not just deer, rabbits, hogs, but also the small critters. if there is a rat or mice plague in your hunting district, youre supposed to deal with that. you have to write it all up and report it annually. youre also expected to take part in community hunts with other hunters and the act of hunting as in killing the animal is also highly regulated. you need a hunting dog, a specific rifle, a handgun, a specific ammunition and you have to shoot at specific times and in specific situations. its a lot of work, which means its mostly done by retired old men and farmers who dont want their crops and trees get damaged. they sit in these wooden boxes called "hochstand" and shoot from there. thats hunting in germany.
>they sit in these wooden boxes called "hochstand" and shoot from there
We do the same in America, hunting over corn and söybean fields simply requires you to be higher up to take full advantage of the several hundred yards of sight lines. Don't bother asking why I painted this one, just thought it looked cool lol
>because rabbits and deer have no natural enemies in countries like germany, netherlands, belgium etc
Yeah because you guys practically wiped wolves out in Europe.
>there are actually not enough hunters to prevent that, so in the next 10-20 years or so germany will most likely see [big population problems]
After hearing how fucking expensive it is to hunt in Germany maybe, just MAYBE that shit will change. But knowing Europe they'll just implement some expensive "solution" or some shit instead of, y'know, getting kids into hunting small game.
>they'll just implement some expensive "solution"
It's cheaper and safer for the state to lay poisoned food and traps than to arm population, especially considering vocal disapproval of certain EU policies
Not deer. They deserve it.
>Animals are innocent.
Deliciously Innocent.
Animals are food you pussy. Fucks like you are too separated from where the food comes from and should be allowed the choice of starve or butcher your meat every once in a while. 3/10 troll i replied.
I think deer hunting is actually better than eating beef if you eat the deer. Your family can survive on one dear for almost a whole year depending on how much meat you eat. Personally I don't like doing it though because animals are innocent and it feels shitty. But I understand it. Hunting just to kill them is fucked up though.
what are you some kind of fag? your family can't live off a deer a year unless you are practically vegan. Also deer aren't innocent, they'd eat you if they could and if you don't eat them some other predator will eat them asshole first alive if you don't so fuck 'em. They're also dumb as shit (like you) and are like rats around here.
>deer aren't innocent, they'd eat you if they could
I like venison and think hunting deer specifically is good for population control since we killed all their predators in the East 200 years ago but this is some weird redneck logic
>animals are innocent
Animals are amoral, which is not the same thing as innocent.
>hunting just to kill is fucked up
nigga doesn't know what culling is, lmao. Here in ausland most hunters up in north queensland are expected to bag and tag 100 feral cats a fucking year just to keep the population from exploding and wiping out native fauna. The cats here are fucking monsters and deserve what they get, I'm from townsville and I say kill em all!
I went in June and learned a shitload.
1) shoot the first good animal you see because there might not be a second
2) it's fucking hot in florida in June
3) short gun good.
4) less than 3x sucks, even at short range
5) dry ice + ice definitely works.
I'll try again early next year.
>less than 3x sucks
Skill issue, brother. Practice more and embrace the way of the iron sight. Pic very rel
>implying birds are only hunted for sport and not for meat
Every hunter I've ever met who shoots birds also eats them
>I don't get sitting in blinds and ambushing some dumbfuck animal like deer
It's the most efficient and intelligent way to kill deer. Most deerhunters, myself included, view deer purely as walking meat that's meant to fill a freezer. No reason to go stalking a white tail if you can sit and wait. Also all animals are dumbfucks, and it doesn't matter if you use a gun or bow, it's all equally "unfair" to the animal because they have zero instinctual response to either. We're at the top of the food chain for a reason
Irons can work but you need the right environment for it. Close(ish) hunting is a midwest/back east sort of thing with those dense forests and/or bumping whitetail that love to stay down. Out west mulies and elk are shot much farther out so you need glass and a bipod to both find and shoot them. Mountain goats are the worst as they typically have an unobstructed long distance view and run easily and much faster than you can on scree. Antelope scatter real fast too without a good stalk.
1.) Dude I was replying to was talking about hunting in Florida. So half of what you said is irrelevant.
2.) I shot that deer with that mosin at 160yd. There are dudes out West who shoot much farther than that, but most hunters keep it within 200yd
Based. I took my first deer with my M44 mosin
Never had an Issue with it. My issued OCP uniform came with it. Pretty sure the label says it will last for 50 washes or so. Then again I don't plan on living past 60.
Sport/trophy hunting with modern weapons is for fat boomer homosexuals
Sustenance hunting is ok
Hunting for sport with a spear is based
Put a bit over 60 lbs of meat in the freezer last weekend. Any other anons do their own butchering? How many lbs do you pull off a deer on average? I have ranged from 25 on a small doe to upwards of of 70 on good size buck.
Gx0wwa
The broadhead looked like it deployed properly, and the shot placement was good in my opinion but this guy went about 150 yards with that I think was a severed aorta. Body cavity was absolutely full of blood when I was gutting.
He expired in a dry creek bed with sheer sides and I had to call out some help to get him up and out of the woods. Toughest drag out I have experienced so far.
Nice buck, congrats! Looks like a good shot. Deer are weird, I've had lung shot deer go 20 yards and heart shot deer go 100, just the way it goes sometimes, adrenaline is weird.
Been hunting mule deer and elk with both rifle and bow since my early teens (30s now). Whole family helps butcher, we split the meat up, one of the uncles works with the hides to make shit/sell em. And since it's all lottery draw and tag here, we only get to go once maaaaybe twice a year. Honestly those 3 or 4 days innawoods with just my old man or by myself is my favorite weekend of the year.
You people are psychopaths. You have no souls. These animals did nothing to you.
Not true. They made me hungry by being food.
Saw a wounded deer on the turnpike last evening, it was really shitty actually. A bullet or arrow in the heart is a better death than that. Deer do not die of old age.
>Deer are immortal unless vanquished by le epic hunter man or a car
Yeah right
disease, starvation and predation say hello homosexual.
So they die of natural causes like all living things ok
Stop being obtuse you retarded fucking homosexual nagger
You said they're immortal though
Do you know what Chronic Wasting Disease is?
I saw a female with a puncture in the intestinal cavity, the guts were protruding. We observed it for another hour or so during the rut, as it was in the stag's harem and being covered. She was obviously in a lot of pain, and more guts were spilling out over time.
The worst part was watching her running away from the stag when he kept trying to mate her. He eventually succeeded, and she kept on going for another few hours before we were able to kill her humanely (sedative overdose)
The lives of wild animals are often ended in many horrific ways and in this case no "care" or such things were shown by the other animals in the social group. Try to avoid imposing an idealistic view of what it means to live as a wild animal
Wouldn't it have been a lot more humane to have put a bullet into her from the get go?
You wouldn't have had to approach and that means you wouldnt have had to stand around watching the stag reenact a scene from A Serbian Film while the doe suffered in pain for hours.
No, she got some kind of relief of drifting off to sleep
She was in the group, tightly packed so shooting was a problem. Plus during the rut so unpredictable behaviour when the gun goes off, panicked animals etc, probably end up with more punctures. Didn't have a gun on the scene anyway and would have taken the same amount of time to prep the sedative. Although I do agree, should have the gun ready, we are in Europe so having a gun on site ready to go isn't as straightforward
Fair enough, I did think it might be hard to get a clean shot.
They said the animal was in a group, if you shoot a rifle close to a group of deer because you want to put one down there is a high chance you can shoot another one or two with broken legs or punctures right after.
Guns are fucking loud in a forest.
You also better be a good shot, because you just traded the animal dying high on meds to dying in terror and pain from bleeding out.
>he's never had to put down a deer with CJD
The number of people that kill cleanly and ethically and use the animal far exceeds those who don't which are universally hated by the ones that do. Clean your own room before you call someone elses dirty.
same fag that probably roots for dead russian/ukrainian people. probably a cat/dog mom
I can't wait for ww3 so all these fags wise up or are wiped out
You're a murderer, simple as.
Bait
homosexual
Cry moar.
What bullet? I'm always astounded by real-world damage with full-power JSP/SCHP compared to what we see in ballistics gel.
Not him but I use 154gr Hornady sst in a 7x57 they make damage that looks like m193 out of a 20inch barrel bullets usually end up as just fragments
>people are psychopaths
We just like eating the best.
>These animals did nothing to you.
Also they damage crops and attack livestock. Some invasive species are threatening the local population of animals as well
Weak bait
Been wanting to go for squirrel but I just haven't fit in my schedule yet, though I am planning on going for a pheasant release on veterans day with a buddy. I would really like to go for deer, but it's extremely inconvenient due to rifle season only being a week long and my states weird cartridge rule. I should really just get a bow and try and take one that way.
crossbow and muzzleloader are good options too depending on your states laws. you can get a good-enough muzzle loader for like 200 bucks if you watch for deals. hardest part about bow is just finding somewhere to practice. I am a member of a local club with indoor and outdoor ranges and I still practice less than I should.
Muzzleloader season is even shorter than rifle season here (4 days vs 9 days). Archery would be viable, I just gotta get a bow and git gud with it. I do have a few archery ranges within reasonable driving distance, or I could even just go to my parents since they have a little land. It's really just a money thing at this point, I don't have available funds to put into a bow. I'll probably stick with small game and some bird this year, hopefully my situation changes soon.
That all being said, I would love nothing more than to take a deer with my trapdoor rifle, I swear I will do it one day.
I went scouting overnight innamountains on Friday. My deer tag is for early November. I only saw a fawn but I saw a lot of tracks and scat. I think I found a good place to glass from.
Been a couple years since I went hunting; I lost my hunting land. Normally I would use 3in 00 from an 18.5in mossberg. Never had a shot past 30 yards in that thick brush.
I have no problem with it.
Never, it doesn't interest me, none of my close family hunt and the family that did I'm not close to.
Started hunting about 10 years ago. I enjoy it. I don’t get too crazy with it, usually a mule deer every year, maybe even some dove. I got into rabbit hunting as well, very tasty. Most of my Sunday night meals come from the deer I take each year. Good clean meat.
I understand hunting for food
I understand hunting to get rid of feral fuckers like hogs
I understand hunting for pelts etc
I dont understand hunting for sport. I dont get the appeal. Birds make some sense due to the sport/skill of shooting a relatively fast moving target.
Specifically I dont get sitting in blinds and ambushing some dumbfuck animal like deer.
Many first person accounts describe the Whys? and Hows? Some argue you can hunt with a camera...taking a scene. A bullet ends the life of the prey. Takes patience and steady hand (even with shotgun).
The only reason to hunt is for the kill. Could be a thrill, could be the reasons you mention. Sport is about winning. You lose when you fail to return with game. Everything in a successful hunt is predicated on the kill. Maybe it's for people driven by Completion. People are motivated by Authority, Accomplishment or Affiliation. Hardly ever a mix. You can see comradery in Affiliation. But most hunters enjoy the accomplishment of the kill. The goal is completed. Video game players just have different goals (modern ones), completing the level.
If that is foreign, abstract, too criminal, then I argue you are civilized, urbanized, self deluded. I hunt for the kill, even if I see the animal later as magnificent; my act self serving. I enjoy the end, the check in win column. I also fish, while there you can catch and release.
Non-hunters are self deluded about the source of groceries and fast food. But not all hunting is about Maslow's lowest tier. Hunters are self serving in the primal need to slaughter. To me it ends the game.
One last thing...do not feel you are the better person for having hyper empathy. Romans had no empathy and look what they did. Empathy is no more correct than pragmatism. If the world had only 300 million humans, all our problems (most) would be solved. How do you get there if killing is beyond your rational understanding? Maybe ask when is death justified? It comes to all.
NTA but lemme be real here. You sound like a total fartsniffer. Like the hunting version of some homosexual in LA who feels like his battery powered car is a lifestyle.
Just be forthright instead of pseudophilosophic from now on, mkay?
I hunt to kill. A homo needs to rationalize some other motive. Enjoy your nightly, self serving finger enema.
>blah blah blah from now on, mkay?
>mkay?
Holy shitballs you are a massive underage shitstain homosexual
If he hadn't elaborated on a philosophical justification for his feelings, you would have substituted your own, which would consist of carelessly labeling him a psychopath or some such post-rational nonsense.
>Specifically I dont get sitting in blinds and ambushing some dumbfuck animal like deer
Everyone has jobs and only like 1 weekend to hunt well (rifle season) so yea, sitting in a pre set blind with a rifle for a chance to get some meat is the best most can do. I'd love to walk over mountains for the perfect buck but fuck man, I don't have time for that shit.
i'd like to learn how to hunt deer, but i don't know anyone who does. and going out and trying to figure it out alone is obviously a bad idea.
turkey i could probably do though, i know where they hang out and i've butchered chickens before.
Wife got a deer we pulled about 60lbs of meat off of last Thanksgiving, and in July I got one with the front of my car, totalling it and the deer
>in July I got one with the front of my car
How much meat came off that one
Venison>Beef
I want to go hunting but my only family member who did it died before I was old enough to go with him and I'm too autistic to ask any of my coworkers to teach me.
Just ask someone bro, someone will take you and you might make a new fren.
Its neat, but certain hunting laws need to be repealed like when we have an overpopulation of white tail and skunks.
Also, I feel that unless you're doing pest control or taking on very dangerous game in brush, you should use a bow, airgun, or arrow gun. There's even scatter shot airguns for waterfowl and arrow guns like the Hatsan Harpoon could easily takedown anything in north America; why placate to fudd boomer liberals trying to pussy whip firearm ownership and militia rights with bs like "some guns are made for hunting, son." ALL firearms are made for WAR as stated in the bill of RIGHTS ffs
>arrow guns like the Hatsan Harpoon
That shit couldnt take down a full grown grizzly you lying nonce
I've known hunters that just wounded grizzlies with 375 Ruger because their shot placement was shit and all they hit was fat, you pseud cunt
That harpoon won't do a goddamn thing to a grizzly, they'd shrug that shit off like nothing.
Uhhuh
Yeah, she didn't kill that bear with that bitch ass .22lr
you think a lucky 22 can't kill a bear?
No way in hell
It can. If it misses and causes a rockslide that falls on the bear.
you are now officially a bitch nigga to a 63 year old illiterate squaw
If you can damage the electronic gear on a modern tank with a .308 machine gun, it doesn't make that machine gun a good anti-tank weapon. IIRC that lady has dumped an entire magazine in bear's scull at point blank range.
She has a cooey canuck single shot
She had a box of bullets in her pocket and after the bear seemed to be either dead or unconscious from her first lucky shot she fastidiously loaded and fired each one into the bear's head to make sure
>shot she fastidiously loaded and fired each one into the bear's head to make sure
And that's how brown bears should be dealt with. Even when it falls, it may not be dead yet.
>SWFA
Just opened what they got in stock. Most of what they got either has too modern look. The variable scopes look alright.
I've been at a gun store yesterday and they had a few antique WWI and II era scopes. I really liked the look of old Hensoldt and Gorz sights (like the ones you could see in Enlisted on G98, in Verdun on several Mausers or on Han Solo's blaster).
ebay. there are plenty of zf39 replicas out there. also tons of vintage scopes. zeiss, hensoldt, pecar/p kohler etc
Damn. The .22 bullet bounced around so much inside it vaporized the meat and left only the skin.
Not you fag
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I've never hunted. I live in one of the many coastal suburban sprawls hours away from any open land. I have no real interest in hauling a deer corpse around and slicing it open into pieces but I do want to shoot at moving targets. I do like the idea of sitting out in the woods waiting for a good animal to come across my path. If someone invited me to go and took care of the animal afterwards I would go
I support it but I don't want to eat prions
You're more likely to get prions from eating cannibal beef or other humans, numb nuts. Stop watching Korean zombie shows and RoanokeGaming
Just turned 18, family is having some financial troubles and I'm thinking about taking my 6.5 Sneedmore to go get some venison. Obviously I'll need to get my hunting license and tags and all that, but what's the cost saving aspects here? I usually buy chicken breasts and ground beef and spend like $50 for 3 of each. Never have hunted dear or ate venison either, hoping I like it.
It's good bro and you'll get a fuck ton more meat for a fraction of the cost (your time and the cost of ammo really)
*Well and tags and shit but it will easily be worth it
Thanks bros, I'll look deeper into it and hopefully get some food on the table for my family.
Just don't get discouraged because you didn't clean shoot a 12pt buck straight through the heart and drop it dead in it's tracks after 5 minutes of waiting on your first outing. Learn the environmental factors first, get better with time, carry onions and permitherin, and don't wear blue
What is the importance of onions and permitherin? Also this might be a retarded question but it's genuine, what's the issue with headshots?
Onions CAN hide the scent of your CoolBro™ shampoo and deodorant which deer WILL smell 50x better than you can upwind. Permitherin keeps bloodsuckers off your clothes that you WILL encounter during the best time to hunt (after rain).
You will rarely get a HUMANE headshot on anything outside 75 yards, more likely getting the snout or neck or just missing entirely when it twitches in a snap. Heart shots are much more forgiving and likely to hit the lungs, spine, or leg if you fuck up by a little margin
>Permitherin
Doesn't it irritate the skin on contact?
Yes, which is why you put it on your clothes and wear undergarments as intended
there is this thing called a shower. you shower yourself and all the permethrin will be off your body. "irritating" means it itches if you leave it on your skin for a few hours, but thats it. and if you dont like permethrin you could just as well use icaridine or deet.
If it’s on your skin you did something wrong. Permethrin is a PRE treatment. Not something you bring out into the field for spot applications
depends on the concentration and actual formulation of the substance the permethrin is mixed in. in low concentration and watery solutions you can spray it on your skin. permethrin creams and shampoos are literally used in medicine against fleas, mites and lice. its not that toxic to humans.
if its on your clothes it also on your skin. dont delude yourself.
Permethrin is meant to be applied to clothes before the day of the trip. You wet you outfit and then let it dry completely. I’ve never had an issue with irritation and have seen massive mosquitoes land but not bite on my clothes that have been treated. It really works.
Note: Do NOT apply it to hats. You will sweat and that shit will run into your eyes.
permitherin is a strong chemical that pretty much kills fleas and ticks on contact, I've seen people spray it on their pant legs and shit though Ive heard others say thats crazy because it's too strong. We bought some straight permitherin once and diluted it ourselves and sprayed the house my ex and I lived in as it had gotten fleas from the cat we adopted and nothing was getting rid of them. That shit took care of the problem almost overnight.
Not sure about onions
>We bought some straight permitherin once and diluted it ourselves and sprayed the house my ex and I lived in as it had gotten fleas from the cat we adopted and nothing was getting rid of them.
>permethrin
>sprayed the house
>fleas from the cat we adopted
Anon you do realize permethrin is, like, REALLY FUCKING BAD for cats, right? If they ingest too much (also possible skin contact, not sure), it kills them. That's why you can't use dog flea and tick shit on cats.
first for use Picaridin. worked amazing for me vs. mosquitos.
You can get WAY more meat that's really lean. Venison does have an acquired taste though, so be aware. The only real pain is tracking and field dressing when you're wet, cold, and tired, but the reward beats wageslaving over a measly 3 days of factory farmed GMOed food.
the main problem with venison is the high lead level in it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2669501/
youre basically poisoning yourself with lead if you eat venison often.
Hunting for food is perfectly acceptable. Hunting for sport is cringe.
What about hunting the most dangerous game?
You gotta eat em anon, it's only right
I'm in.
Went deer hunting this last morning, had no luck finding any that were legal to shoot in the zone I was in. Still saw a lot of other ones though, and saw a fee rabbits, quail, and turkeys. Will probably go again in a week or so, hoping to find a big one to help fill my freezer and my mom and dad's freezer, but will also be taking a shotgun for the quail because they are very tasty.
Did you know North America Turkeys are considered one of the dumbest animals on the planet, really only topped by the Ostrich who is #1 dumbest on every list I've ever seen. Get a turkey bro.
The area I go to has no legal season for turkey, so they just get to run around being retarded with no real risk other than the coyotes. Plus deer and quail taste better to me anyways.
Damn, that sucks no turkey season. I'd have to agree about venison being better though I've never had quail.
>quail because they are very tasty.
They're also fucking cute. My wife's kept quail since she was a kid they're pretty sweet critters. They'll follow us about in the yard cheeping or go to sleep tucked against her feet if we're sittimg around for long enough.
Almost as cute as they are delicious.
>Thoughts on hunting?
Hunting's a pretty good sport m8. Challenging tasks, outdoors.
For people who learn stuff in case of shtf hunting is a needed skill. Not to mention that it's the closest you can get to shooting live beings legally, you may do good service to the farmers nearby, etc
>When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
This autumn, wanted to shoot field birds. It was terrible.
>Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
Start as early as possible. It ain't going to be any cheaper than it is.
Earn enough to afford it all.
Get a shotgun. It's universal for all kinds of game, though it's obviously ain't the best choice for certain tasks. A rifle is good but you don't expect a duck or a snipe to stay intact after .30 cal bullet hit, do you? A reasonably long barrel is good, changeable chokes are fine.
Read books on hunting and behaviour of animals. Europeans make hunters pass exams, soviets used to do so as well. It's a reasonable thing to do.
Have a dog. A breed that's going to be useful for your hunts. But that's basically having a second child - properly feeding, running health check-ups, taking a dog out for three times a day.
Hire a guide for the first times on the spot. He can teach you things and tell some tales.
Have a car. You don't really want to be depending on your friends, drivers that are kind to hitchhikers or public transport
do americans hunt mostly deers and the such?
Fudds 45+yo mostly because they're the ones who mostly hunt and white tails are most prevalent. Gator, waterfowl, and elk/ moose are way more exhilarating. Black bears, cougars, and coyotes are lame because they're borderline scavengers and the meat tastes like shit. Grizzes and polar bears will fuck your shit up for no pay off other than giving you a hard time in general. Spearfishing and Bowfishing is the best time you'll ever have missing everything.
>Fudds 45+yo mostly
City slicker spotted. Everybody hunts deer in the US. We put my sister on a white tail at 10yo
>Black bears, cougars, and coyotes are lame because they're borderline scavengers and the meat tastes like shit
Black bear tastes fantastic unless and only unless it's a city bear that eats literal garbage out of people's trash cans. Bears are omnivores that subsist mostly off of fruits, berries, nuts, roots& such. Cougar does taste like shit though. Never eaten coyote but I'm eager to try - however coyote hunting isn't about the meat. It's about eradicating the evil Bolshevik dog from our country with extreme prejudice
god you sound like a chatbot
And you sound like you don't hunt
>city slicker
Geography doesn't vote, redneck, people do and 99% of people live in cities with 45+yo boomer fudd "hunters" who shill for Israel and Trump/ Desantis
/pol/tard spotted. Get out of our comfy non-political hunting thread
You made it political and uncomfy with strife and discord like the literal first post.
I have to imagine chucking spears at fish like you're mtumba the zulu is fucking fun as hell even if your aim is shit
hope it tastes well
Never been. Grew up with anti gun democrats for parents in California so getting into it has been a bit of a challenge. Working on comptia certs right now so I don't have time or money for hobbies, but I'm hoping I can land a job in a better state and get into it.
When you move to Phoenix or Austin, leave your shit ideas in coastie hell
I'm actually looking at Nebraska or Iowa, but I would definitely like to get away from prop 47
The Midwest is entirely controlled by Chicago, Austin, St Louis, and Minneapolis, in that order. No matter where you go, everything that dictates your town/ state's laws/ culture will come from those 4 pissholes, especially hunting and gun culture
t. ass mad Oklahoman in OKC
The Midwest still looks more appealing. At least I'd be able to afford a house with a garage so that my car isn't out on the street for junkies to loot.
Honestly, consider Utah
> more /k/ than any other lower 48 state because of large, varying biomes
> arguably one of the best hunting and PrepHole cultures in the cuntry
> 14% crime rate, 88% white
> SLC keeps growing
Utah does seem nice, but it's already gotten expensive. The Midwest also seems to be crawling with durr, which is nice too. Despite what I'm saying, what state I land in will also depend on where I can get a job, so there's that consideration too.
SLC proper, Ogden, and Moab are expensive because they're growing too fast and the Mormons want to gatekeep Oregonian deadbeats from their Deseret promised land.
And if you're going into IT/ cybersec, you can just get a WFH job, buy Starlink, and work anywhere
Lol SLC has been seeing massive car burglary and theft
>St. Louis dictates Missouri's firearms laws
No, they're very self contained thankfully.
>not hunting
Pic related is my garage right now, my dad shot a moose yesterday
i would never be able to shoot a deer, it would make me feel extremely gay.
there is something extremely stupid in shooting an unsuspecting animal thats just chilling out in the woods.
just let the dude chill, if im hungry im just gonna go make a steak or something.
if that deer was armed with a gun or something, ok cool thats fair game.
but otherwise, thats gay as fuck.
> just eat McDonald's bro
If your ancestors weren't "gay as fuck" 50000 years ago, you and 95% of your ethnic relatives wouldn't have been born, homosexual.
Why do anti-hunting shills get progressively dumber as threads go on?
>ill go make a steak
>UH UH UH MCDONALDS
have a nice day.
>killing an animal for food is totally gay bro
>the not gay thing to do is to pay someone else to kill the animal I want to eat
but there's food everywhere, i dont have to go into a forest to look for a deer thats just chilling out so i can have something to eat.
im making a juicy steak today, maybe i can send you some if you're so hungry?
a bullet is cheaper than a fucking happy meal. deers gonna be born, roam around, eat grass, shit then die, what's the actual problem in shooting it and eating it? what does that ONE DEER do that taking it out fucks up everything else?
>muh feebwings
if the only argument anyone has to no hunting is 'my feelings', they can be delegated to the dreg pile. hunting and eating produces less of a carbon footprint than buying mcdonalds, so it's better for the environment overall. hunting and eating produces less overall waste if you use all of the kill (if you don't you're a cunt). hunting is the true ethical choice
NTA but if hunting is limited by cultural and economic reasons as it is now, sure, it has lower impact. But large scale hunting is nowhere near as sustainable as animal farming.
So I don't think the "muh carbon footprint" argument holds water.
Time for euroretards and hive dwelling asians to come out of the woodwork to shit on hunting
Hunting with any semi* is 100%, pure homosexualry, that is all.
*Shotguns are exempted.
Naw its the same shit. retard.
No, it is not.
Nah it’s pretty epic. Love my bolt actions but it’s definitely fun.
On one hand I want to hunt hogs with muh AR. On the other hand I'm glad we don't have hogs here yet. And I don't have to skin (what I assume are) stinky ass pigs. Groundhogs smell bad enough.
This is about as close as you're going to get for old look but new manufacture.
https://hi-luxoptics.com/pages/malcolm-vintage-rifle-telescopes
>This is about as close as you're going to get for old look but new manufacture.
Well, unless we look at Zf39 replicas or some rare euro fixed power sights like VOMZ, Schmidt and Bender or Meopta
if you hunt with a semi auto just go to the shops and buy your meat. fucking pathetic.
>Thoughts on hunting?
It's a passion, not a hobby.
>When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
Last year because we have a son now.
>Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
- Find a mentor. STFU and listen, you know nothing. Youtube doesn't teach you anything, it's a means to sell you stuff.
- Get a decent workhorse rifle in a common caliber and a workable shotgun. That's literally all you need. If you want to spend money, spend it on good glass and a quality mount. Practice regularly. Take good care of your tools but remember, they are just tools.
- Silencers are great, especially if you have a dog.
- If you are serious about hunting, get a dog. A proper hunting breed. Train it. Take good care of it. Treat it with respect and it will be your best hunting asset.
- Study your prey. Treat it like the high quality source of food it is.
I'm socially awkward and all the hunting boomers around me are fudd homosexuals. Would going on a few guide hunts suffice instead?
Would yout suggest an accurized 308 AK to be a good workhorse gun?
>accurized 308 AK
No. Not at all. Too heavy. Get a lightweight bolt gun
>Thoughts on hunting?
If you're gonna get a mount, get a European mount. Those taxidermy shoulder mounts that are so popular in the US are just weird. Can't understand why people like them.
I want to hunt vermin such as coyotes, boars, and small rodents. I feel it would be much more interesting and you'd feel like a superhero doing it to these dumb property destroyers.
They also don't really require any large game cartridge like 30-06, mainly just .22LR, .223 Rem, 5.56x45mm, 300 BLK, or 7.62x39. Easy off the shelf stuff
Get a 22mag or a 17hmr. Both are supreme all-around vermin cartridges
I will eat the deer
I will not eat the bugs
I will not eat farmed meat
I denounce all candy ass homosexual nonhunters and their talmudic nonsense
>candy ass
Candy ass is good.
>Thoughts on hunting?
Love it.
>When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
Last November, I'm just busy as shit this year, hoping to get out and go after some squirrels in November though. CWD just hit my area and I'm trying to figure out surefire sanitation procedures before I butcher a deer, so it may be a while before I hunt big game again.
>Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
Listen to everything this guy says and do NOT support hunting "influencers", do NOT pay to hunt, and think about how your actions and decisions affect other hunters in your area and nationwide.
https://huntquietly.org/
We share a common interest in preserving our pastime and I wish you the best.
First time hunter here. Lots of pest control, fishing, and butchering experience already. Currently working on learning to tan so that I make more use of the animal.
I like camping/larping with retro gear. I kind of want to apply this when hunting as well. What would be the best firearm to use? I am interested in hunting the following animals.
>deer
357 rossi 92
45-70 marlin clone
12ga mossberg 500
>turkey
12 ga mossberg 500
12 ga Winchester 101
>rabbit
22lr winchester 62
22lr stevens marksman
22lr savage 6
You can use a shotgun for all of them, its called buckshot for a reason, and you can use 22lr for all of them as well if you want to get technical, but the .357 is more than enough for deer and overkill for the rest. Consider a 0x optic but also that you're not shooting much farther than 100yd with the Rossi
i use a mossberg 590s for everything. I plug it for waterfowl to appease federal naggers. The red dot is nice for shooting slugs and it works for hd as well. I load it with tame shorty shells for my kid. 590 is love 590 is life. with a 590 you can go anywhere. I put wood furniture on it and it looks so innocent yet sexy.
DEER HAVE MITES
they are by and large filthy animals, and you need to field dress them away from the house and clean yourself throughly after handling the carcasses, or you will have bugs in your house.
If you hunt with dogs, give those mutts a bath and use anti-flea drops regularly.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
>now ask me about the abcesses and worms
Tell me about abcesses and worms also pix or it didn't happen.
Only found/poked a few but each time was enough to put me off venison for months. Talked to a deer processor near me once and he said when he finds one he rinses it out with 5% bleach and throws that meat in the sausage pile
>feeling ill even remembering that
i shot and ate 7 groundhogs last year. None this year since i threw up a t-post and welded wire fence so my chickens can free range and the fence has prevented groundhogs from living under my shed
Shooting from my bedroom window is hardly "hunting" though
What do you use?
Subsonic 22lr. Some of the groundhogs were shot with a suppressed keltec cp33, then i switched to a 10.5" AR, suppressed running CMMG 22lr conversion bolt
Trips of truth. 22 puts food on the table.
Im gonna screenshot this to use to bitch slap the fags in SHTF/ "you can only have _(#)_ guns" threads that won't run a 22LR in their kit
It gets the job done for cheap. I have neighbors so i dont want to use anything too loud to begin with
>Hows the AR conversion?
It works great, and it works with binary triggers too
Hows the AR conversion? Been debating one. Nice numbers brw
how are groundhogs for eating? most people seem to massacre them for sport and just leave the bodies
also free him 🙁
i definitely wouldnt trust my life to it but if you hit a lucky enough spot in the skull to penetrate the brain? yeah you can kill a bear with a 22
>how are groundhogs for eating? most people seem to massacre them for sport and just leave the bodies
the liver is definitely my favorite part, I just fry it up with onions. The rest of the meat is very gamey and you have to soak it in brine for 12 hours to make it more pallatable.
>also free him 🙁
I let him go next to a walmart
How was the ghog meat? I've got four in the freezer half killed by me with a 22 and half killed by the dog and I've been planning on eating them during deer rifle season. Any cooking tips? I just saved the legs and backstraps
Truly, a most patrician window sniper.
I've been hunting for about 5 years now and have gotten to the point where I can consistently get on animals every year. Without knowing what style of hunting someone is doing I can't provide a ton of advice but if you're doing the kind of hunting I do(which is primarily still hunting and spot and stalk) focus on keeping your eyes active and effectively covering terrain with your eyes. Too many people either keep their eyes on the ground as they're walking from spot to spot or spend too much/little time picking apart the terrain with their binos. Once you understand what the species you are targeting wants to be doing when and where you are, you need to examine every spot that fits that description until you find them.
If you're hunting an animal that's sensitive to noise (basically anything that isn't an elk or a moose) learn how to walk quietly through the woods. Keep your weight on your back foot then test the ground as you step with a heel to toe rolling motion. Once you get good you'll be able to walk through the woods blindfolded since you'll feel if you're about to break a twig with your feet or if you're about to step off/onto something unsteady. This will minimize the noise you make while allowing you to keep your eyes focused on spotting animals.
One last thing that will greatly increase your efficiency is learning to read a map with an eye for what animals like. This is time, place, and species specific but in general animals will prefer different types of terrain(both micro and macro) at different times. If you can look at a map and find spots likely to fit your target species' needs and desires, you're obviously more likely to find them by focusing on those areas. In general ungulates like northern facing slopes for cover and south facing slopes for feed, with nearby draws or other terrain features humans and other predators can't quickly cross to use as escape routes.
October. Missouri had a three day firearm doe season because of muh cwd. Got a doe on the third day with a .444
Got one the first day with my 45 Colt 1892.
Sunday was too hot, didn't see anything.
Shot mine maybe 5 minutes into legal shooting light. After that I think it would have been tough to see anything
Pretty sure I won't get to take advantage of our other seasons though due to kid coming. Glad we had an early season.
>Any experienced hunters have advise for new hunters?
by a 270 bolt action and pit a 4x32 on it and don't bring urbanite vidya tactilarp 5.56/9mm bullshit guns as it means you are the taker not the giver in man on man rape
>270 bolt action and pit a 4x32
I really love the idea of conservative hunting gear, however there are so little oldschool new scopes and newer rifles look like crap
SWFA?
A swastika and an oppressed minority
I actually grew up hunting, I've wrestled a deer and stabbed it after hitting it with a muzzle loader and a few .45acp rounds if you got any questions have at it I've killed 13 deer in my lifetime and I'm not older than 25
>using a knife when wrassling a deer
>not using just your teeth and wiener
guys will talk about fucking a deer then alt tab back to discord to repost a 'you just know' meme
To be fair, anyone who uses discord at all is a gay tranny that’ll fuck roadkill without a second thought
Andrew Ucles is that you?
Haven't been in 2 years. This was my last kill taken in North Carolina. I might try to get one this year.
If I'm hunting communists, what's the best attractant and method to use?
Try a ziplock bag of any vaguely herbal substance and snares, they're not very bright or strong so it should work every time.
wait until you hear about the tried and tested te/k/nique of hand hunting deer Anon.
Time doesnt matter dude. Only success. I have a friend who talks a big game about how hes been hunting for years and shit. Motjerfuckers never filled his tag. Why because hes a lazy shit who wont read anything or put effort into learning or getting better. A newb can autistically go down the rabbit hole gear up info hoard and be successful his first time out.
>Thoughts on hunting
Only pursuit I’ve ever taken part in that hasn’t ever let me down.
>Last time you’ve gone?
Saturday.
>Advice?
Just fucking go dude. Seriously get the legal shit done and just go. Especially if it’s just deer hunting. Throw on some cheap camo or orange as the law allows, bring a suitable gun for your required game, and put some miles on your boots out on public land. Go innawoods and you will find creeks, game trails, and bedding areas where they obviously hang out. You know what the tracks look like. On farm land you’ll find them on fence lines, irrigation ditches, and taking cover in runoff or brush piles. Look for mass. You’ll find deer, quail, rabbits, squirrels, and all types of critters just by looking for places that would be easy to hide or walk through. Then when you figure out where they are you can start planning ambush tactics. Figure out the safest route for them to travel from A to B and put yourself in between them. Kick some brush and flush a critter out the other side for a buddy to smoke. It’s really not that hard. Just time consuming.
>Just fucking go
do this.
If you have a patch of open land or woods you can stroll around in with a gun or a bow and maybe score some dinner while you get to know the place, do it
The one pastime humans have perfected beyond any other and one of the few every man can feel like a true patrician doing no matter the condition of his birth
I'm worried that even if I do manage to kill something I will ruin it trying to cut it apart. I already struggle trying to debone my thanksgiving turkey even though I buy it from the store already cleaned.
>I will ruin it trying to cut it apart
There are guidelines on how to gut and dismember your game. Just google. And don't forget to sharpen your knives
https://discord.gg/eFxMCc5n
The PrepHole discord if anyone is interested.
best tip i ever got was if its brown put it down
>Thoughts
I'm a vegetarian of ten years who is an active culler/hunter of invasive species. Wild hogs are annoying and often cannot be eaten by my meat eating family. I can easily kill an animal when it is to protect the environment and do not protest hunting to eat, but I detest hunters that only kill for fun. I hope factory farms are wiped from existence.
>When's the last time you've gone, if at all?
sunday morning
didnt get anything but the exercise is nice
also pheasant season opens this weekend, a;ready gettin my brine ready
Went in May, shot 3 sprinbok, less than I would have liked, they don't have much meat on them.
Advice for new hunters: bring a flask of whiskey and take a deep swig. I still get shaky sometimes when I'm lining up my first shot of the hunt, especially if I've been waiting around for long or didn't see anything the previous day.
Took my longest shot yet at 380 meters quartering away but I just blasted off its shoulder and had to put another round in it. If I had taken a swig of whisky it would have been clean on the first shot.
I am doing my hunter safety course right now 🙂 Hoping to start deer hunting for the first time this week. Our season just started. I will hunt on a wma that I have been hiking on and exploring for years. I am going to use my savage axis .308 with a leupold 3-9. Any tips for a first timer?
State?
GA
Are you hunting public land?
For hunting in the east and midwest, you should spend some time studying a map of the area you intend to hunt. Look for low areas with a lot of fingers, that lead to ridges, those will be high traffic areas for deer.
If the conservation area butts up against a farm or field of any kind, try to position yourself somewhere along a travel corridor from the public land to the private field.
Not him but you clearly didn't read his post at all. He said he's hunting on WMA that he's very familiar with. Read first so you can at least pretend you care what others are telling you before you splurge what you want to say
>he is familiar with the area
>so he already knew exactly what to do and what to look for
Then why did he ask?
>he is retarded
Holy shit did you really take a doe with an Evo??
Does anyone hunt with a bow? Any recommendations for a crossbow or compound bow?
For compounds BowTech's are very popular here in ZA. Seen them being used to hunt p much everything.
I am primarily a gun guy but I hunt with a bow as well because where I am at it gives you about 2 or 3 extra months of opportunity. I have an old model excalibur that I got used for a good deal. From what I understand the recurve models are very user friendly and low maintenance as opposed to the compound options.
Walking through a field with your bros hunting pheasants is a lot of fun. It's extremely easy too, I've even seen some morbidly obese people do it.
The closest thing I've gotten to hunting was catch and release fishing.
did you fuck the fish anon?
Do I look like a gay fish to you?
>boomers pass their gatekeeping mandatory hunter training guided field bullshit
>none of these boomers want to teach anyone so there's not a single hunting safety training course within 100 miles
>hehe i got mine son
I use thermals and suppresro, like to wait until it is really dark so animals don't stand a chance and usually already sitting or sleeping. Quick shot to head/neck to score a quick CNS takedown.
Easiest way to harvest meat especially if you're on unknown land and you just know the owner of the property would be a dick about it. NVG + electric dirtbike no-one needs to even know you were there other than the gut-pile you left where there once was a deer.
>suppresro
is that like, a coffee drink
Ukraine is losing.