Thoughts on Bakhmut, the Ukranian Counteroffesive and Belgorod

I think I've come to a realisation. Have you noticed how there is almost nobody talking about Ukraine losing Bakhmut due to the recent happenings in Belgorod? I personally find the timing a bit odd, as it was perfectly timed to overshadow the fall of the city. So here's what I think happened:
1. Ukraine knew they were eventually going to lose Bakhmut unless they prepared a counteroffensive to retake (or surround) the city.
2. The more logical place where Ukraine would commit to a Counteroffensive is towards Melitopol (or more ambitiously Mariupol), to cut off the southern offensive and force a retreat to Crimea due to an eventual lack of supplies, like the "goodwill gesture" in Kherson.
3. A counteroffensive around Bakhmut would be risky due to the incredible concentration of troops there.
4. Ukranians planned the Belgorod "special military operation" with local forces, but instructed them to wait until the fall of Bakhmut for optimal counter-psyop
5. There is no reason for Ukraine to take Russian territory as this may create issues with Western Countries and it is an unnecessary risk.
6. Russians are forced into a dilemma. They either move in forces from Ukraine to squash whatever is happening in Belgorod or only use whatever they currently have, which may not be much. I'm not sure what Rosgvardia's role could be in this.
7. If the Russians move away troops from Ukraine, which the Ukrainians could probably discover via intel gathered from satellite photos or informants, this weakens their defensive capabilities, especially in the case where they have to stop a breakthrough.
8. If the Russians move troops, the Ukrainians counterattack towards Melitopol.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5. There is no reason for Ukraine to take Russian territory as this may create issues with Western Countries and it is an unnecessary risk.
    >Create issues with western countries

    Lol

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah duh.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tripgay
    Not reading

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tripgay
      I usually don't, but I want to be able to wrute things in this thread without other anons being able to say they're me

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t reply to this guy, I’m the actual OP i was hacked

        (I’m trans btw)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >delete the trip
        What a gay, you zigger that smells of copium a mile away.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't read. The Ziggers entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to liberate everyone else, and nobody was going to liberate them. At Donbabwe, Lughanda, Bakhmut, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the ass, and now the ass will truly be in the ass.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They sowed the ass, and now the ass will truly be in the ass.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't read. The Ziggers [...]
      It's curious how my wording triggers bots on both sides. I also don't support the side you think I do.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/GpC3bUI.jpg

        >They have sowed the ass and they shall reap the ass wind

        tactical advantage of forgetting to delete the trip before samegayging?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They have sowed the ass and they shall reap the ass wind

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They have sowed the ass and they shall rape the ass wind
        FTFY

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They sowed the ass, and now the ass will truly be in the ass.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They sowed the ass, and now the ass will truly be in the ass.
      give this man a nobel prize in literature.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >anime man
        It is gundam edgylords for you sir

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Masterful work, Anon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Melitopol makes too much sense so personally I believe the actual counteroffensive will begin with beach landings at Crimea and all the fortifications there that we mocked would've been validated but nobody expected a surprise d-day so they are unmanned. Who's gonna stop the navy? The black sea fleet (lmao)?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Who's gonna stop the navy?
      Well, that's the issue with a Crimean D-Day, the Ukrainians don't really have a navy. The only way they would be capable of moving enough troops is with RHIBs, which ain't ideal. Especially as they would have to then support the landing, and they have no way of doing that even against the shitcans the Russians call a navy

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about the Norwegian submarines dismantled, shipped via trucks, re-assembled in Romania?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          how about a source, schizo?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            ??? Wym source it was discussed last week?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it was revealed to me in a dream
              do you actually believe whatever unsubstantiated shit a random moron posts on PrepHole

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >submarines dismantled, shipped via trucks, re-assembled
          How do you disassemble a submarine, which has a pressure-resistant hull, and then re-assemble it?

          ??? Wym source it was discussed last week?

          And no source was given, I read that thread

          Sorry your soft tone in the OP made you sound like a shill.

          I wrote it with that tone so bots on both sides would get triggered and it kinda seemed to work. I tried to mimic the vatnik's tone and wording without actually saying anything untrue.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            1. I don't think anybody cares about Bakhmut, Russia claimed it was worthless to take not more than a month ago. Now it's suddenlt super important now that snow Black folk finally capped it after a year? lmao frick off
            2."goodwill gesture in kherson" this is not something Ukraine ever did, Russia are the ones who lose and then make such "gestures" to save face.
            3.Concentration of troops? Wagner jerked themselves off, then pulled out, after hundreds of thousands of losses YOU morons have nothing left there but conscripts without supplies.
            4.dunno why they'd wait unless they were pulling out of bakhmut anyway
            5.LMAO NOBODY likes you white mongol apes, holhols won't lose support at all for fricking your shit in
            6.They will make the dumbest non decision possible because they are negative IQ monkies.
            7-8. doesn't matter, ruskie lines are imploding everywhere and wagner's preparing to bail for Africa while the snow covered shithole burns. Maybe this is a feint to uncover weaknesses in the RU line, but it doesn't matter when the pigger has been struck and is thoroughly bleeding itself dry.

            You failed "impartial" russian shill.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              > Now it's suddenlt super important now that snow Black folk finally capped it after a year?
              Never said it was, I just said that the FSBots are quiet as the big happening is not the capture of Bakhmut's ruins, but whatever is going on in Belgorod.
              >"goodwill gesture in kherson" this is not something Ukraine ever did, Russia are the ones who lose and then make such "gestures" to save face.
              What do you think the "goodwill gesture" was referring to, if not the Russian retreat from Kherson?
              >Concentration of troops? Wagner jerked themselves off, then pulled out, after hundreds of thousands of losses YOU morons have nothing left there but conscripts without supplies.
              To keep pushing Bakhmut, even with mobiks, you need a lot of them in one spot. That is a concentration of troops.
              >LMAO NOBODY likes you white mongol apes, holhols won't lose support at all for fricking your shit in
              I don't understand why you think I'm Russian, but what I was saying is that actually invading Russian territory (under the Ukrainian flag) may reduce support from the population of western countries. This is mostly because of the spin that can be given of "look, they're actually the invaders", which does indeed fool a lot of people.
              >They will make the dumbest non decision possible because they are negative IQ monkies.
              I hope so
              > doesn't matter, ruskie lines are imploding everywhere and wagner's preparing to bail for Africa while the snow covered shithole burns. Maybe this is a feint to uncover weaknesses in the RU line, but it doesn't matter when the pigger has been struck and is thoroughly bleeding itself dry.
              I really hope so, but I've been hearing this for ages and it still hasn't happened. What happened to the news about Russia running out of artillery shells and/or Khinzals?
              >You failed
              Did I? You seem quite triggered.
              >russian shill
              Do you lack reading comprehension? I understand English is not your first language, but have some respect on this Mongolian basket weaving forum.

              • 10 months ago
                IImWSzCVRQI9k

                >What's there to talk about?
                Not much, but the media can spin anything into a story.
                >you could ride on that high
                Me?

                >This board is full of CIA shills sucking off israelitelinskis junta.
                And FSBots rimming Putin
                [...]
                >CIA probably gave the greenlight for this shit
                I think it's likely they asked the US what they would think
                >The only reason i dont get is why the moronic "rebels" or whatever are ok with being sacrificed like pawns.
                Are they actually being sacrificed? They're fighting for what they see as a better Russia, and that is commendable.
                I think Russia's most likely response is evacuating and then flattening Belgorod, but maybe not in that order.

                >tripgay
                I usually don't, but I want to be able to wrute things in this thread without other anons being able to say they're me

                I'm black and trans by the way, I love Russians because they hamper the imperialist aims of Amerikkka and the European whities. Slava Puccia!

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like northern part of Luhansk could be a good place to have an offensive. Less defense to penetrate through. Easier to secure territories with minimal losses.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about your opinion

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Correct and toughtfull take but we dont do do that here. This board is full of CIA shills sucking off israelitelinskis junta.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This board is full of CIA shills sucking off israelitelinskis junta.
      And FSBots rimming Putin

      [...]

      >CIA probably gave the greenlight for this shit
      I think it's likely they asked the US what they would think
      >The only reason i dont get is why the moronic "rebels" or whatever are ok with being sacrificed like pawns.
      Are they actually being sacrificed? They're fighting for what they see as a better Russia, and that is commendable.
      I think Russia's most likely response is evacuating and then flattening Belgorod, but maybe not in that order.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nobody talking about Ukraine losing Bakhmut

    What's there to talk about? It has been slowly happening for a year. Or what, did you expect you could ride on that high for at least a couple of weeks?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What's there to talk about?
      Not much, but the media can spin anything into a story.
      >you could ride on that high
      Me?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry your soft tone in the OP made you sound like a shill.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think they just did it for the memes.
    But yea, it seems like an obvious attempt to distract the Russians. Lets see if they keep their cool or go full moron.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Russians had some idea something was going to happen soon and did what they do best - claim bullshit. Maybe a firehose about Bakhmut would drown out any news of whatever Ukrainian antics would be coming.
    That, or the Belgorod liberation was planned by them, and they knew everything about their own false flag. I still have my doubts as to who's doing shit in Belgorod and Moscow - I mean, just fricking HOW?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I tried geolocalising the video as it has to be on the Moskva river, but those railings aren't present in any part of Moscow, as usually they are like picrel. I'm not saying that it's not Moscow, as it may be that I just couldn't find it, but I doubt it is.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those could be like some park lake railings

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the video, the railings are towards a river. It may be some other city in Russia for all I know

          >delete the trip
          What a gay, you zigger that smells of copium a mile away.

          Zigger? I see another bot got triggered by my wording, but also didn't have enough reading comprehension to understand my post.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They were probably told that if they get the nukes then Russians won't attack them

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie, the battle for bakhmut is still ongoing

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a vatnik with a trip and using words like "curious". Your ass is in the ass.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5. There is no reason for Ukraine to take Russian territory as this may create issues with Western Countries and it is an unnecessary risk.
    there is no issue with western countries, this is a war solely between ukraine and russia thats all, neither of those are western countries.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The offensive will take place in Melitopol but not just Melitopol, it will be done in 2 places like last year.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not so sure of that. I agree that they will probably use some probing attack or something like that as a distraction, and I think Belgorod is it, but I think there is one main objective Ukraine needs and that is to get to Melitopol.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are vatniks so desperate now to asking question and then answer with stupid shill shit globohomosexual to themselves since nobody is paying attention to them on /misc/?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this may create issues with Western Countries
    The only possible issue is jealousy that only Ukraine is off the leash.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm not sure what Rosgvardia's role could be in this.

    VDV are kill, so it was their turn to go in on the helis

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was banned a couple days ago for posting a thread about strategy. In it, I told one poster to frick off with the Ukraine bullshit for ONE thread and got fricking banned for it. And here, front and center is a fricking thread about strategy but it has Ukraine in the title.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are not noticing the big picture here, if you turn the chess board, you will notice that Ukraine is going for Transnistria, as it is in the polar opposite

    Now make me an hamburguer with your NAFO obese big breasts

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