Thoughts about the FC-31 that Pakistan is about to buy from China?

Thoughts about the FC-31 that Pakistan is about to buy from China?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems a bit small

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      asians are shorter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is this, a plane for ants???

      it's a mockup the real thing is bigger

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't wanna hear your excuses!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least two times bigger!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its gets bigger when I pull it

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are actually going to use it in an actual war as compared to Chinese chest thumping.
    That JH-7 is sexy af

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >JH-7 is sexy af
      wut? JH-7 looks like they just copied sections from other aircraft and Frankenstein'd them together.
      I would really like to know how good the stealth is on Chinese aircraft.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They are actually going to use it in an actual war

      What war? Pakistan is poor and unstable. Everything they spend on dickwaving against poojeets is less they have to slow the eventual Pakiban takeover (which might get a nice war, one can only hope).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The first combat debut of the J-10 was a few weeks ago. The pakis used it as air cover for bombing Iran.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead on arrival. Normal countries would buy KF-21.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not stealth
      >still dependent on America who will control price and usability

      I'll make it easy for you:
      >Are you an American ally (vassal state) and do you need stealth?
      Yes -> F-35
      No -> F-15
      >Are you not aligned with America and do you need stealth?
      Yes -> FC-31
      No -> Rafale

      Even the above isn't conclusive as Israeli pressure is stopping Egypt from getting Meteors for the Rafales as they outrange the Aim120's that Israel uses.

      Pakistan is China's Israel. In the sense that they are an unreliable ally but it is strategical important for China to arm Pakistan against India and split Indian forces between its two borders. Pakistan will also actually use the FC-31 and give China real world experience of stealth/VLO aircraft used in aggression/defence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you an American ally (vassal state)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's just classic projection because the only few chinese and russian "allies" are literal vassal states where the puppet government are entirely bought

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chang spotted

        https://i.imgur.com/fJar7vX.jpg

        >KF-21
        >That belly
        No thanks

        >that belly
        >implying
        Reminder that KF-21 is an intentionally dumbed down version of a fully stealth capable airframe in order to bring down the cost, which means it can be reverted back to a stealth aircraft once the funding is secured. There's a reason why the Saudis and UAE are wanting to be in on it as an alternative to the ill-fated Checkmate. Even with its semi-recessed launchers it can easily mock any of the 4.5th gen fighters out there in RCS including Rafale.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gee, I wonder why they made such a huge space in the fuselage for no real reason...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spongebob lookin ass

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So I'm not the only one seeing that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >KF-21
          well of course. theres a reason south korea is still buying the f-35.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seems like a fricking stupid idea.

          >Wing commander: Hey I need to fully load it with sparrows instead of sidewinders.
          >Maintenance guy: It will take 1 day to remove the sparrows lower fuselage and change it to the sidewinder lower fuselage .

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we made it shit on purpose
          Delicious cope

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is though. Former F-22 design team from LM participated in the project as a consultant group.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          to be clear. the A model or whatever they end up calling it will not be upgradable to the B (stealth) model.
          They will make some number of KF21-A, which will remain that way even when production of KF21-B is underway

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Even the above isn't conclusive as Israeli pressure is stopping Egypt from getting Meteors for the Rafales as they outrange the Aim120's that Israel uses.
        Meteor is already integrated into KF-21, Anon...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Meteor is already integrated into KF-21, Anon...
          >can't into reading comprehension

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you an American ally
        Yes I'm fricking are... question to you Chang, and wtf r u doing here on /k/? Nazi Chigna cucked and can't have guns available for the people, so pls go back to

        [...]

        with ur bool shoit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Yes I'm fricking are
          ESL detected.
          Pajeet opinion ignored

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's French.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He's French.
              No wonder why he get's furious about Rafale being refused on getting Meteor integration.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >opinion ignored
            ESL detected in ya mada yesterday
            opinion discarded

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he told him he isn't american but ally
            >YOU ESL!!!
            >What are France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Norway, Spain, Poland, Portugal...
            Eh boys, it looks like gutter oil is finally ruining Shanghai and Hong Kong PISA rankings.
            Tell you what Chang, I admire your tenacity and cunning, particularly when it comes to the military, for all your faults you have been a passable wzcuse for MIC to keep the machine well piled, but I also lament like Iran, Nork and Russia you have been wasting your potential for your "great leaders", if you loved yourselves a bit more rather than hate the West to hide away your problem you would be so much better.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >text wall
              I'm not reading that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's literally 3 lines you mouthbreathing homosexual

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it is strategical important for China to arm Pakistan against India and split Indian forces between its two borders.
        This won't work. If China tries to two-prong India they'll just nuke the Pakis to focus on China and literally no one will care because EVERYONE hates their fricking guts.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick are you on about, pajeet?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Israeli pressure is stopping Egypt from getting Meteors for the Rafales as they outrange the Aim120's that Israel uses.
        What is that Israeli pressure?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >KF-21
      >That belly
      No thanks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who gives a shit about that?
        >round thrusters
        lmao the frick? this is ancient

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >round thrusters
          common among the cheaper stealth aircraft

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's because designing and building the actual aircraft is relatively easy, it's the engines that are the hardest part to build.
            The KF21 is using the F18 engines.

            The Turks have a similar problem

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Round exhaust nozzles common to other systems save a shitload of money as all the parts are high wear items. If you don't need box exhaust nozzle there's no point in using one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like this jet, will it be cheaper than the F-35?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not without Indonesian participation

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imagine thinking Indonesia is still participating in this project after all the shitshow
          Time to pack up, my dear.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is literally no "project" without Indonesia's participation

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Indonesia don't even have an aviation industry, wtf are you babbling about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Indonesia don't even have an aviation industry

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA/IPTN_CN-235

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice try, java monkey. But it literally is just a licensed produced Spanish design and it isn't even a supersonic jet.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Indonesia never stole Korean aircraft technology
              >continue with this narrative after being caught red handed
              Gee, I wonder why they would wanna kick them out of the program asap.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fricking hilarious that other countries are only just now building a plane that resembles something the US designed way back in the 1980s. By the time these shitty F22 knockoffs are in full service the US will have squadrons of 6th gen NGADs that will be decades more advanced than anyone else.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      impressive

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The F-22 doesn't even have IRST nor EOTS. And in terms of 6th gen the chinks are already on board:
      https://www.twz.com/china-is-working-on-its-own-sixth-generation-fighter-program-official
      https://www.twz.com/tailless-warplane-concept-may-provide-clues-to-chinas-future-fighter-ambitions

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ?
        But China has yet to build a real 5th gen. Tofu dregs less stealthy than an F-117 with antique electronics and missiles does not an F-35 make.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying the Chinese will ever get ahead of America with its 6th gen fighter program
        China's domestic 5th gen fighters are only as advanced as they are today due to the massive theft of information China carried out against Locksneed back in 2007. They stole terabytes of information from LockMart, this gave them massive technological boost that allowed them to skip years of R&D.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        F-22 has them on tests and will be upgraded with them soon.
        https://theaviationist.com/2022/05/03/f-22-upgrades/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean why do they all look similar to 40 year old tech and why did it take so long. As I judge stuff based on looks and it seems lame that there isn't that much "next gen" variety of planes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The F-22 entered service at the tail end of 2005. There wasn't even a flying prototype until the late 1990s. If what existed in the 80s makes the Raptor count as "1980s tech" then you might as well say China's Sixth Gen fighter and the NGAD are 2000s tech lol.

      Also, the J-31/35 is much more analogous to the F-35. It has a lot of stuff the F-22 lacks, since the F-22 has been starved for upgrades since it serves no purpose. It looks very likely that the Raptor will be retired from service with its only use being to shoot down a balloon and the fly around while other planes rape a Wagner/SAA column that had no air defense.

      ?
      But China has yet to build a real 5th gen. Tofu dregs less stealthy than an F-117 with antique electronics and missiles does not an F-35 make.

      All defense analysts agree that while the J-20 has serious compromises, it is also a true 5th gen LO aircraft. Only moronic PrepHole jingos who just pretend anything made by countries they dislike MUST be shit parrot these stupid lines. Stealth is not just RCS, no matter how much tards try to parrot this. If you went off RCS alone you'd be forced to conclude that the US is degenerating and that the F-117 is "more stealth" than all later aircraft. It isn't.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does not help your argument. Chinese electronics are multiple generations behind. Their engines are terrible. Their missiles are comparatively antiques.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Chinese electronics are multiple generations behind
          5-10yrs ahead you mean? China has better radar ew and irs tech than the USA

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shame they never seem to actually seem to equip it in any of their vehicles then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            May we see it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >China has better radar ew and irs tech than the USA
            Claimed to be better. Just like the S-400 was claimed to be air defense wunderwaffen until it was proven not to be. May be it is better, maybe it isn't. I do objectively know that totalitarian societies tend to oversell capabilities and under deliver whereas the West seems to understate its capabilities and over deliver.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're really gonna believe what the Chinese say? They're just like how the Russians are when they say they can do awesome shit that scares the US into making better shit, then we find out their supposedly awesome shit is just shit, but then the American better shit actually works.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >believe what the Chinese say?
              China didn't say anything, their ships and AWACs simply uses better radar than the US since the 2010s. Or are you claiming PESA radar are superior to AESA ?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And it's all running on processors straight out of 2005.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like the CCP or Paki Islamists, but I don't like Indian Hindu nationalists either and the FC-31 looks cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >looks cool
      I'll go with proven deadly over a body kit any day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you know as little as me or anyone else here how good or bad it actually is, and I trust and economy the size of China's to be able to produce a functional stealth fighter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I trust and economy the size of China's to be able to produce a functional stealth fighter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Will would an Indian shill for their main enemy, you fricking mongoloid?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Indians shill for the enemy of humanity, Israel

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Money, usually. Doesn't even take that much.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It needs to be at least three times as big

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pakis smell bad in open air, can you imagine the scrub a bugman sized wienerpits gonna need after one flies in it

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just wanna see it doing CATOBAR already.
    I can already hear the saars frothing from their mouths and making several tabloids on about how it's bad and all.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So China is now pumoing 5th gen aircraft to the third world? Isn’t that a major threat when any tinpot regime with enough money can field something that is equal to F-22 or F-35?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know you're baiting, but you're not wrong in that global south apes will in fact be better enabled in the future with solid 4th++ Generation airframes that China will be able to provide them with.

      But at the end of the day it won't be any different from how the USSR was giving them solid Russian aircraft during the Cold War. Part of the job of a competent Air Force is to account for that, and it's why the USAF doesn't just depend on technology but also on developing fully comprehensive strats and tactics that can btfo anyone else, no matter what they have on hand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I know you're baiting
        Hey, come on, I even resisted the urge to write ”based Chinks”.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cargo cult never ends

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure the IMF will make them cancel at the last second.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is this, a plane for ants???

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buying 'built for export' Chinesium
    >Ever
    The shit they build for their own military can barely hold up the smoke and mirrors show the Chinese elite are relying on to not get uber-lynched by angry Changs after it becomes obvious that they no longer hold the Mandate of Heaven.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kuvKXGE.jpg

      Thoughts about the FC-31 that Pakistan is about to buy from China?

      Watch it end up being what the MIC hyped up the Mig ?29? (is that the one the dude defected with). Like China's export to the Pakis has zero radar signature because glorious one times stamped chinese sheet metal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks china would backstab pakistan
      their alliance is unironically insanely strong, probably the strongest in the world. Something like 90% of pakistanis have a very favorable view of china

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Something like 90% of pakistanis have a very favorable view of china
        and I'm sure that the Chinese public and elite really care about that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Something like 90% of pakistanis have a very favorable view of china
        and I'm sure that China really cares about that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imran Khan, anti-American and most pro-Chinese ex-PM of Pakistan just got sentenced to like 40 years in jail to not participate in the next elections, or any elections whatsoever.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks rule of law works in third world countries

          lol, LMAO even

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another note, a war between India and Pakistan (sans the likely hundreds of thousands or million dead because that would be a full chimpout) would be peak K, just a bunch of US Chinese Indian and Russian equipment mishmashed together. Glorious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately Paki kit has completly been going Chinese + local sourced.
      Since the US has been reluctant to equip Pakistan. Their Airforce is now a majority Chinese planes with 80 or so F-16s.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tails on the prototype looked so much better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not to mention the wienerpit design.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >35
        really?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        JUST

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Hey Chang, why does this F35 we're copying have this hump at the back of the wienerpit that limits rear visibility?"

        "Dunno Chang, we should copy it anyway"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More fuel and less drag? They didn't have it in the original J20 but have integrated it into the J20B

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DBtcwSi.jpg

      Not to mention the wienerpit design.

      I feel like it got more "stubby" after the 1st prototype.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The prototype actually looked like a good aircraft.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine a country that has to desperately chinkshill against pajeet armed with outdated ziggers and frog weapons and their knock off lmao.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to Pajeet, I noticed thad Paki is also quite pathetic as frick.
    It indicates problems with their genes.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think making planes look American is much easier than making them function American.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it actually any good?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even as a chinese aviation fan I don't think its great, the j-20 was chosen over it after all. With even half decent stealth and chinese missiles it should be pretty effective though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >as a chinese aviation fan

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