Thoughts about electronic warfare planes?

Thoughts about electronic warfare planes?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think about them at all

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is why your mobiks get grenades ready when they hear drones coming

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dont have mobiks. If I had them they would be doing my chores for me

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EW is an important component in any air campaign and works well in conjunction with stealth systems, sensor fusion and stand off pgms. Most major players have modern EW platforms, usually they are variants of established multirole strike fighters.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OOOOOH I NEED TO GRRRROOWL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everywhere I go, I must SEAD

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the Air Force equivalence to this? F-16 with jammer pod?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes. F-16 Wild Weasel.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I fondled nearly every SW F-16 from 1985 to current (which we still had in '07 when I retired). They're fun to work on. Would gleefully do again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I miss the EF-111A.

        Sadly enough they just "borrow" EA-18G support from the Navy when they need a dedicated jammer to cover a strike package or something. F-16s can and do carry ECM pods but those are really just for self defense. F-35 has a lot of nice EW capabilities but it can't really do the same sort of thing as an EA-18G.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I miss the EF-111A.

        Sadly enough they just "borrow" EA-18G support from the Navy when they need a dedicated jammer to cover a strike package or something. F-16s can and do carry ECM pods but those are really just for self defense. F-35 has a lot of nice EW capabilities but it can't really do the same sort of thing as an EA-18G.

        There's a doctrinal difference between navy and airforce. The navy support a single strike timeframe with targeted suppression from growlers. The airforce use wild weasel to knock out threats for a longer period, effectively clearing an area.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I miss the EF-111A.

        Sadly enough they just "borrow" EA-18G support from the Navy when they need a dedicated jammer to cover a strike package or something. F-16s can and do carry ECM pods but those are really just for self defense. F-35 has a lot of nice EW capabilities but it can't really do the same sort of thing as an EA-18G.

        The EW pods on the growler suck donkey balls compared to the ones for F-16s
        The Air Force doesn’t borrow Growlers, they use F-16s in a wild weasel role to great effect. 131 pods are a gorillion times better than the 99, AKA the pod the Navy desperately needs to replace.
        t. Tyndall Tard that worked both Navy and USAF pods

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          aren't the Growler's EW pods way more modern than the F-16's?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally the opposite lol. The Growler uses the AN/ALQ-99 developed in the late 60’s, first used in the early 70’s in the Vietnam War. The 99 is infamous for fricking up the jet’s own AESA radar, which is why the navy is desperately seeking a modern replacement, going so far as to make the call to adapt the F-35s planned NGAD pod for the growlers instead. Once NGAD is finished being developed, produced, and fielded… then the Navy will have a better pod. But by that time the USAF next Gen EW pod project (for fighters, they already have one for drones called Angry Kitten) will be done or close to, so it will be a moot point as the Air Force will continue to have SEAD capes provided by Wild Weasels, stealth bombers, and stealth fighters.
            The F-16 uses either the AN/ALQ-131 or AN/ALQ-184 (theater dependent), which are newer, better, compatible with modern radar, compatible with towed decoys, and broader band. Since they do everything a 99 can do (and more) while only taking up 1 pylon, you can load the 16s with even more HARMs for the SNEADING and SEADING of enemy radars, AAA, SAMs, etc.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What kind of drones is the Angry Kitten for? MQ-9s, or the Loyal Wingman prototypes?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m like 96% sure it’s for the drones we currently have, and has been test flown on an MQ-9, but idk if it will be compatible with the NGAD wingmen concept

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't think. my brain was splattered all over the inside of my truck because my GPS told me to drive over a fricking cliff

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do we have dedicated ewar jets?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They act as force multipliers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because you need specialist aircrew to use them effectively anyway

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Because you need specialist aircrew to use them effectively anyway
        I've always wondered about that.
        How hands-on is the EW officers in these aircraft?
        Do they just flip a switch on the pod and let some pre-written stuff detect enemy signals and jam them automatically, or are they watching signals and picking which ones to attack and how?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          supposedly a mix between picking it out and some AI mumbo jumbo(the real machine learning type) So the longer the war goes on the better they should get if the other side does not have self learning AA systems

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AFAIK the guy in the back seat's main job is interpreting the picture of the battlespace the EW systems and comms are giving them, and communicating that to the pilot so he's not overburdened.
          Certainly in the past there was a lot of manual stuff listening out for "tones" of different kinds of radar threats and tuning the jamming equipment to counter it, but computers are capable of that to a large extent nowadays.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well as a self proclaimed expert (played the new vtol vr dlc once)
          Generally the job of the EW officer is to look through radar sources, prioritize targets (i.e, Early warning isn't as much of a priority as an enemy plane with lock), select modes (DFRM vs Noise (among other options)), and other general WSO jobs
          Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Special rear wienerpit need + they typically have sensors all over the fuselage, not just on the pylons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The smaller the set of tasks you can give to an individual, the more likely they are to succeed under extreme pressure.
      Driving a single seat fighter is enough of a high throughput hassle without getting shot at.
      EWAR can probably (eventually) be automated, though.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    p cool ngl imho tbqh

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't care less if they keep making sick patches

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Granker?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >planes
    yes
    >electronic warfare
    Yes!
    >electronic warfare planes
    YEEEEEEEEES

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    breddy kewl

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love her so much

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    soon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GL trying to do all that with one dude

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        good point you bring up
        back when it was still labelled Eurofighter ECR it was shown in the two seater variant, at least the one in the back here
        I'm not sure if they're gonna be the two seaters, Eurofighter does have two seaters so it shouldn't be a problem

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ensuring that Europe will have yesterday's technology tomorrow!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better late than never, I guess.

        Eurofighter EK will enter service 5-15 years after EA-18G or J-16D, and the airframe it's relying on is more modern than either of those two others. Do the Russians even have a dedicated SEAD/DEAD aircraft nowadays?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Do the Russians even have a dedicated SEAD/DEAD aircraft nowadays?
          Well, they do have plenty of DEAD aircraft. Dead pilots, too

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            heh

            also to keep defending European honor on this Mongolian basket weaving forum: the US is still pushing out new versions of a 70s airframe with the F-15EX, so give us a break about the Eurofighter EK.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That reminds me I keep forgetting to ask this - if I'm using a three-rod wale pattern, will rattan be an acceptable material for a bayonet sheathe or should I look to something a little more resistant to cutting?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Recent block Eagles are drastically different what's sitting in AMARC. Turns out the electronics matter much more in both cases.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better late than never, I guess.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    electronic warfare, like drone warfare, is gay
    it's just like some god mode shit
    id ban it if i was writing this season

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    will it ever be topped?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >at least one maneuver kill
      I don't think so.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >completely unarmed
      anything EW that can mount a HARM topps it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what is a strike package

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >what is a strike package
          my name for my penis

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anon what do you think about protection?
            >protection? honey let me tell you we aren't doing ANYTHING until we've done some deep penetration SEAD first

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >deep penetration SEED

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >anon what do you think about protection?
            >protection? honey let me tell you we aren't doing ANYTHING until we've done some deep penetration SEAD first

            I was erping with a girl and this shit both made me harder and made be start laughing uncontrollably, ty anons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally one of the greatest aircraft ever utilized by the united states.

      Frick the Navy for acting like moronic israelites to keep their 1950s subsonic bullshit in the air.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >utilized
        *used.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what makes an electronic warfare plane an electronic warfare plane?
    like what's the difference between that and hanging a bunch of electronic jammers and doodads in any two seater?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like what's the difference between that and hanging a bunch of electronic jammers and doodads in any two seater?
      There's going to be some heavy power requirements so an auxiliary APU or something might be part of the build.
      I would imagine that it's mostly a bunch of electronics for the WSO/EWO seat and all the bus lines to run from that to the pods and presumably, some server or something that coordinates it all.

      All the EW aircraft are retrofits from fighters so it's clearly not *that* hard to do but it's enough rewiring and stuff and installing an APU I assume and a server or something and finding space for the WSO to get probably a full keyboard these days but definitely a UI that lets them do a bit more than just dropping bombs.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Generally quite useful and synergize well with stealth planes.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >human EW
    Useful force multiplier
    >chink EW
    Lol, lmao
    >zigger EW
    Flat out doesn't exist

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >zigger EW doesn't exist
      Straight up first-world hopium anon.
      Russian EW is quite good, it's an area they inherited from the USSR and haven't squandered so much and have made advances in.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They first need electronics to conduct electronic warfare. I bet you're one of the moronic zigger homosexuals who think the march of technology stopped at 1991 and see nothing wrong with using the same fricking systems from the 80's

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I bet you're one of the moronic zigger homosexuals who think the march of technology stopped at 1991
          No, I just don't underestimate the enemy.
          Ridicule them if it makes you feel better but don't start believing your own propaganda.
          The enemy is determined, can innovate and can be brave.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This Anon speaks the truth. Complacency leads to 9/11s and Oct. 7s

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Speaking of them, how many EW containers ended up at Langley since the start of the 3 day special needs operation?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >how many EW containers ended up at Langley since the start of the 3 day special needs operation?
              I assume that at least one of every model Ukro captures or recovers (even in damaged state) ends up there.

              I can't imagine that the US didn't add some clause like that to a private agreement about aide though Ukraine would be fools not to curry favour like this anyway.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        zigger EW is quite good anon
        2 picoseconds late Zigger Anti drone EW unit gets destroyed by ali baba drone

        Let me guess I have to agree that their shit planes are pretty too, right ?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It denies the enemy their internet and tv porn so that’s pretty based.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't keep his good porn on a solid-state drive stored inside a Faraday cage.
      ngmi

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t need physical nor digital copies of porn, I have my mind. The one thing EWAR cannot take from me (except if they beam me with microwaves)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn’t print out every frame of his favorite porn in color on his office copier, and then bind it into a flip book for EMP-proof tacfaps
        You cannot comprehend my power level

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't memorize every frame

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            does sissyhypno by a pregnant redhead wearing a flight attendant's uniform work if you memorize it?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sauce?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're underappreciated because their effects are non-kinetic and invisible. If the Air Force wanted to drum up funding for more EW aircraft, they should invest in special effects: Theremins, dramatic electrical discharges, engine noises that suggest there's some powerful mechanism inside, maybe searchlight beams or some lasers. As a starting point I suggest:

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  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They probably cause cancer if you stand too close to them while they’re radiating.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This actually happens with regular fighters already. I remember reading something by a Soviet dude (I can't remember if he was a pilot or maintainer or what) talking about how Mig-31's were forbidden from turning on their radar on the ground since it was powerful enough to kill a rabbit on the other side of the airbase. Idk how true that is, but the Foxhound's radar is fricking huge so it's not implausible

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        /k/onfession time.
        When I was in AIT for 13R “artillery radar operator”. During the final FTX I set my shit up per FDC “fire control” orders (also AIT students). When they told me to radiate I went outside to look at the radar to sanity check the direction it was pointed (per my training). It was pointed directly at the FDC tent. I grabbed the radio to tell them and my instructor grabbed it from me and said
        >let them figure it out
        and he smacked the radiate button.
        FDC didn’t figure it out and tell me to stop radiating for at least 15 minutes. I probably gave 2 dozen guys cancer ;-;
        (The radar was an ANTPQ-36, for those interested)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bruh what

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's 40k tier.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goddamn but I am glad I'm not in anymore.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Radars don't give people cancer. They can cook them though. If they didn't notice then they weren't getting enough to matter.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. There is such confusion between "ionizing radiation" (e.g., gamma rays) and run-of-the-mill EM radiation. Yes, they're both photons. But most frequencies do nothing but warm you up a little. In order to have a noticeable effect, you have to use either a massive amount of power or concentrate what you have onto a very small target. Compare the size of a microwave oven, which uses a kilowatt or more of power and a closed chamber designed to reflect microwave-band photons rather than absorb them until most of them strike the food, to a radar transmitting in the open air against, say, a target a hundred yards away. Even if the radar is MW-class, that's still orders of magnitude less heating power per square inch than a microwave oven. And the cancer thing isn't really an issue on the "red" side of the spectrum; for that, you have to go way, way past "blue" to get to X-rays and gamma rays. Only wavelengths that are the size of a cell (or less) can directly mess with DNA.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, you'll feel your skin heat if you're hit with a decent amount of power. Otherwise it's not really a big deal.
          t. MIC test worker bee

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry. You'll feel your skin get hot. I mean to say "your skin will heat up but mixed things up. Maybe it's the cancer from getting irradiated...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An X-band radar like the ANTPQ-36 has a comparatively massive wavelength of 2.5cm. That's far below the energy that's required to cause cancer. It's not until you get into the upper spectrum of UV light that there's enough energy to start ripping apart DNA.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't worry, you didn't give them anal cancer, but you did put them in an open air microwave

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I went outside to look at the radar to sanity check the direction it was pointed (per my training). It was pointed directly at the FDC tent. I grabbed the radio to tell them and my instructor grabbed it from me and said
          >>let them figure it out

          >sanity check ... (per my training)
          Apparently that part of the training didn't stick very well.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When I worked Phantoms at Moody the WCS (Weapons Control Systems) troops would put pizza in the radomes and heat it. I was Comm/Nav but got to play with the radar and when pointed at the reflectors of a distant (100 yards easy) light cart the filaments glowed brightly.

          The Cold War was really quite comfy if you served wisely, and that meant heeding the Nam vets I knew growing up by going Air Force.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          worst you could have done is some burnt tissue which they would have immediately realised. radars dont emit frequencies above the ionizing treshold

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the only long term effect is they might have a slightly higher risk of getting cataracts eventually

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I work on coastal maritime patrol aircraft and our radar gets ground tested before a sortie but we have to narrow the sweep to a small cone and make sure it’s pointed in a safe direction for at least 250ft

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about electronic warfare munitions?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Spear-EW
      isn't that just a decoy rather than an actual missile to kill?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >isn't that just a decoy rather than an actual missile to kill?
        Yes it is, the EW package replaces the warhead. It would count as an EW munition though, it delivers EW to the target (area) after all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UK MoD: We have MALD-J at home!

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    electronic jamming and warning are always relevant

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that decal on the nose doesnt scream "death" to me. its more like "bawd"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that decal on the nose doesnt scream "death" to me. its more like "bawd"
        We frick different kinds of bawds.

        It's probably meant to be "death" nose art but the AI had hentai in the training material and there's some understandable confusion.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Ratbat

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're cool and necessary for any air campaign to succeed

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did you post a J16?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The J-16D is a dedicated EW variant

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can it be considered the most advanced Flanker to date?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's China, they don't have the most advanced of anything.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally the most advanced quadcopter drones on the market are from DJI (Da Jiang Innovations), a chinese company: https://youtu.be/wnJzv01jgb8

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Literally the most advance quadcopter drones on the market is your mom - or as we call her, DJI for DICKJIZZ INGESTOR - when she takes two wieners in her hands and two more inside her

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Dedicated EW variant
        So its job is essentially crashing people's computers who spam Winnie The Pooh memes?

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