>This will properly prepare me to deal with IEDs and RPG-wielding guerilla insurgents in rural Afghanistan
If only the Taliban were hiding out in a public elementary school playground or a Chuck-E-Cheese, then you guys totally would have won.
>This will properly prepare me to deal with IEDs and RPG-wielding guerilla insurgents in rural Afghanistan
Teamwork and not having a heart attack when carrying 90lbs on your spine from point A to point B.
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>Teamwork
Did you guys watch too much anime and think you'd beat Al Quaeda with the power of friendship?
How to tell someone has never played a team sport before in their life.
Then you should have won
Except for Afghanistan
Maybe you should have multiplied that force to victory instead of loss
Maybe you should read a history book about how you lost the war
And you resorted to retreating back to where you came from
No need to reply I preemptively accept everyone's concessions.
>Except for Afghanistan
Its especially in Afghanistan that the taliban wasn't able to do shit against american forces. Anon, you're retarded.
>wasn't able to do shit
They got American forces to leave abruptly and leave behind a shitload of weaponry so not really sure what you're referring to
It wasn't "teamwork" that caused casualties against the Taliban, quit giving yourselves so much credit, it was the hundreds of jets and reaper drones flying overhead in a nation with no air force.
you do realize that deploying drones is inherently a combined arms affair?
and the reason that gun battles ceased after a short time is because they took lopsided losses in every engagement with coalition forces, a large part being that a properly trained fireteam easily runs circles around armed citizens
>Yeah maybe that flying robot totally leveled that building and killed 45 people but... Y'know... I totally helped when I like, told it where to go
>Those Taliban guys were just lucky their building wasn't accessible by zipline or I would have totally busted in there with my sweet foam staff and like, knocked them all out
>they still abide to the cease fire made a year ago.
Yeah of course they are, dipshit, who are they gonna fucking shoot at now that the American military is gone?
take a moment to look at the organization of drone units and how they are deployed, they are subordinate to brigades
>Drone: M-M-M-MONSTER KILL +4500 XP
>You: +10 spot bonus
Yeah pat yourself on the back and have a cold one on me, thanks for your service
Obviously the drone operator gather all the intel and maintains the drone by themselves.
>Yeah of course they are, dipshit, who are they gonna fucking shoot at now that the American military is gone?
The doha agreement promised a cease fire between the American military(mainly air force because thats been a thorn in the Talibans side when dealing with the ANA). Not only that, american and taliban force cooperated against ISIS and such. America ceased operations against the taliban since 2014 and the only ones that's been hammering them post 2014 was mainly the U.S. air force doing CAS for the ANA. The taliban(along with the U.S.) has been dealing with other insurgents like ISIS and also other militias that are not exactly friendly.
>They got American forces to leave abruptly
No, they did not. Read the doha agreement.
>muh weapons
For the Afghan national army, none of those equipment were for american forces. America long since pulled out of the country aside from a few continent forces of air force/SOF shit dealing with ISIS. The taliban wasn't able to do shit and they still abide to the cease fire made a year ago.
>it was the hundreds of jets and reaper drones flying overhead in a nation with no air force.
>hundreds
My dude, there were barely 2000 troops left in Afghanistan in the last few years. There weren't hundreds of jets and the taliban begged the U.S. air force to stop bombing them in support for the ANA in the doha agreement.
>leave abruptly
no? There was a treaty with the Taliban years before that stipulated Americans leaving Afghanistan and turning the keys over to the existing government. For whatever reason the exit kept being delayed, until someone in the chain of command put their foot down. There was nothing sudden about this, if you weren't fucking retarded and paid attention to what was going on in the world. The Taliban kicked the ass of the ANA, not the united states. the US pushed the taliban's shit in for 20 years. The US defeat, if you want to consider it that, was believing that the Afghans were capable of governing themselves in a democratic style
US forces hadn't set foot in Nuristan for over a decade by the time the withdrawal happened, the Taliban pursued a deliberate strategy and defeated the US militarily.
They defeated the ANA. There’s a difference. But it’s really only apparent if your hands aren’t curry stained.
The ANA was created by the US, this is a cope like saying that North Vietnam only defeated the South, even though they forced the US to the negotiating table. And I hate pajeets more than you do.
>this is a cope like saying that North Vietnam only defeated the South
this is the actual thing that happened, as the south only collapsed a couple of years after the US were gone
>the ANA was created by the US
Cool story, still doesn’t change the fact that the Taliban defeated the ANA, not the US military. You can make a lot of great arguments about how and why the US failed at nation building im Afghanistan, but dominating the Taliban militarily really isn’t part of that equation.
>only defeating the south
>forced the U.S. into negotiations
Anon, its literally the other way around. Line backer 1&2 was a breaking point for north Vietnam to even accept the cease fire.
>even though they forced the US to the negotiating table.
Bruh. Read a book. Skim a wikipedia article. Anything.
Retard doesn't even know that the ANA is a seperate entity from the U.S. military. The ANA got put in charge and everything went to shit.
>b-but the U.S. created
Nothing is perfect and nations can't survive if they aren't willing to prop itself up. The main issue with both Afghanistan and Vietnam is always the host government being weak, which isn't a problem with the U.S. military.
>Taliban pursued a deliberate strategy and defeated the US militarily.
No, they did not lmao. Every major battle with the U.S. military always results in them getting btfo'd. There are reasons to why the taliban never bothers to conduct large scale assaults of thousands because they get demolished like what happened in 2001-3. They defeated the ANA, but never defeated America in a military sense. The americans stopped their operations against the Taliban in 2014 and onwards is just training and isis hunting.
>Maybe you should have multiplied that force to victory instead of loss
>Maybe you should read a history book about how you lost the war
Ironic considering that you're conflating military operations with nation building. America never had a problem militarily taking on the taliban, either taking on their conventional forces or their guerrilla ones. The lose in Afghanistan was not due to military blunders.
look bud, i know its painful that brody shat on your shitty ideas during the group project. But that doesnt make teamwork any less critical to success
Team work and coordination is a force multiplier. Just because you watch some cringe self insert trash anime about it doesn't make it inapplicable
>t. edgy teenager who thinks that since popular TV shows use teamwork and friendship as core themes, that means that the concept of cooperation and camarederie has no real world application
literally read a manual of fire and maneuver and look how a modern fire team operates in the field
teamwork is vital to everyone doing their job
teamwork is why terrorists lose every engagement theyre in and have to resort to IED and ambushes
Have you never worked a single job in your life? teamwork is the difference between complete chaos and running a system efficiently, and efficiency matters more when mistakes means that you have less people to worm with or youre going to get injured
>power of friendship
The power of friendship faction is currently the most powerful military alliance on this planet. Thirdies and their league of evil just doesn't stand a chance
>carrying 90lbs on your spine from point A to point B.
causing irreperable damage to the body in an attempt to forcibly subjugate an indigenous population
good luck at the va
>ingenious population
Those same people that will die to diseases or have similar problems due to working in a back breaking environment? Afghanistan outside of kabul isn't exactly "chill" anon.
he said indigenous, not ingenious.
>If only the Taliban were hiding out in a public elementary school playground or a Chuck-E-Cheese, then you guys totally would have won.
Why are you making this an issue with military readiness and training? The taliban got demolished in nearly every confrontation. Low quality thread.
>If only the Taliban were hiding out in a public elementary school playground or a Chuck-E-Cheese, then you guys totally would have won.
Kek
>he doesn't know
disclaimer: i am a neverserved fat fuck
all this fitness shit is less about the actual fitness and more about shared suffering and bonding. you need people who all went through stupid bullshit because that will keep them together when shit gets tough. you also need above average strength and coordination at bare minimum, because these people are going to be hauling gear and will be expected to not slow down in combat. also, not understanding close combat could suck if the other guy knows it, which you should assume he does.
Cool story bro