This Is what Is left (seeking advice)

Hello Bros, After my father died we sold his collection. This Is what remains. A Cz75B an Sp101 and a Sig in .243

Good enough. I Guess... I think i am gonna buy at least and extra Mag for the CZ, meanwhile the sp101 Will be the gun for defending the house.

Now the sig...what should I do with It? The gun storie dude didnt want It because of the caliber... I don't want to throw It away...I don t know anything about this gun, never shot It.

I can tell you 1) the sight Is horrible...you have a Key hole thing that I really hate. 2) i only got a cucked Mag for It (5rounds).

If It has to stay Maybe i should invest in It. I don t know if in Italy you can change the iron sights (which are weld) however a 20 round Mag should be legal. We Will see.

A good question i have for you guys: i can only have 200 rounds for all of them total...how would you divide them?
What caliber for the sp101? The Classic .357 seems overkill the .38 seems more reasonable

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >After my father died we sold his collection
    frick ya mudda

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes my mom pushed for It, but the economic situation Is bad. You have to understand her.

      Anyway...this Is the situation now

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well at least you got a solid wheel gun, autoloader, and rifle out of the deal. When my uncle died, my aunt wouldn't even let me buy the 10/22 I used to shoot all the time when I would visit.

    >I don't want to throw It away.
    Well that's a crime anyhow, and it of course has value. Try some different ammos and get some different mags.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Sig in .243
    are you able to shoot it ? I have one, the chamber is too short, the bullet is tightly pressed against the beginning of the rifling, resulting in over pressure.
    I shot the firing pin aaaaaaaall the way into the stock with a ruptured primer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know It was made for It so i assume It Is not gonna explode in my face when I Will try to shoot. It. I must point out again that i hate its iron sights.

      WTF were they even thinking

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't know It was made for It so i assume It Is not gonna explode in my face when I Will try to shoot. It.
        It will, because it doesn't accept .243win cartridges lengths for hunting
        >I must point out again that i hate its iron sights.
        I find them very, very effective, dioptre sights are great, but it's my taste.
        You can get a SIG 542 mounting base to put a NATO old school STANAG style mount for a scope on it. Not another model than 542, the SIG Manurhin FSA in .243 is based on the .308 version of course, the SIG Manurhin CSA in .222 is based on the .223 version, the scope mount is not the same.

        If I get autistic over It, i could end up finding them. This weapon could turn into some sort of boomer project for me...i May end up spending more Money on It than it's actual value.

        A starting point could be switzerland...It was their service rifle.

        there's the Beretta AR70, look at the forgotten weapons video on the Sig Manurhin FSA in .243win, that is supposed to have the same mags. But as far as I know, this is true for the .223 mags, I have no idea if Beretta made the AR70 in .308

        I am waiting for things to cool down here in France because we change the system to register firearms to buy another one as a donor, mine is pretty beaten up, front lower handguard is broken, bolt has seen some shit, flash hider was pinned down on the barrel by a guy from Ishmaz. But I have 2 20 rounders and even a fricking 30 rounder.

        Before firing the rifle, put a cartridge in it, chamber it, eject and check for marks of the bullet being pressed against the rifling. It is necessary to have a free flight to not make the gun explode. And the LGS I go to has that rifle opened up as a flower, it exploded because the owner put a hunting .243win round into it and fired. he lost a finger.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also I am sorry for your loss, may your father rest in peace.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what caliber is the sig? 243 Winchester? Ammo seems to be available. Is this because of the "no military calibers allowed" law in Italy?

    I have probably never seen one for sale here, so it's probably a rare rifle.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Back in the day we werent allowed to have military calibers, i Guess. The laws in Italy went more liberals in the last 15 years. And now I have a semi auto with an exotic, yet Interesting(and expensive) caliber

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, because we can si,ply own 223 and 308. Those weird calibers were made to entice boomers. It's like a famas in .222 etc. The same gun has always been available in Italy in .223

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was because of the laws in the 80s and 90s

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Even back then 223 and 308 were legal. My fiance dad owned an ar10 with browm bachelite furniture in 308

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, meant in France, so Sig Manurhin produced the civilian semi auto only in .243 and .222
            PGM precision offered to change the barrel of the FSA for one in .308, but I don't think they do that anymore.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Italy lets you inherit guns? That's pretty cool. I'd get 4 20rd mags for the sig if possible. So 80rds for that. Honestly the CZ is nice but it's kind of redundant with the wheelgat. I'm assuming it's 9x21? Probably a box of 50rds and the other 70 rounds a mix of .357 mag and .38spl for the Ruger.

    I'd honestly try and get a 22lr kit for the CZ if legal because 22lr would be a better fit seeing as the revolver is capable defensively as is the SIG if things get crazy. Not to mention 22lr can be made from construction blanks if needed.

    Nice guns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not OP, even in France mags for the SIG manurhin FSA are unobtainium

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I kinda figured. I've been collecting for years and haven't ever seen them for sale.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If I get autistic over It, i could end up finding them. This weapon could turn into some sort of boomer project for me...i May end up spending more Money on It than it's actual value.

        A starting point could be switzerland...It was their service rifle.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Serial number thread anon here
    Not a bad collection. Glad everything worked out for ya man.
    As for your questions:

    >Definitely keep the Sig, and invest in it. Its a great gun in a great caliber, even if said ammo is a little pricey.
    >As for the sights, if you can reliably hit the target, id just leave them alone, unless you have a VERY smart gunsmith.

    As for the ammo, id say it depends on how much youre shooting.
    If you dont shoot much, id just leave the Sig and CZ empty, then practice with your Ruger. 100 rounds of .38SPL, and 100 rounds of .357MAG.
    Save the last 6-12 rounds of .357MAG to keep in the gun for home defense.

    Now, if you want to shoot all of them, and often, just buy 1/3rd your allotted amount every time you go shooting.

    Otherwise, have fun anon!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *1/3rd your allotted amount, per caliber

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Grazie, I love the sp101.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The scope I got for it, the mount, pure luck... They show up in Switzerland from time to time, got mine in France for half the price of the rifle, kek
    Zielfernrohr Hensold / Kaps ZF Modell 1 + Stanag Montage. Neuwertiger 1A BW Lagerbestand *RAR
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    Yes it's a piece of rubber to deflect brass and not mangle them, because .243win brass isn't exactly cheap.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if you can buy from Switzerland but here are some mags :
    https://www.petitesannonces.ch/a/7305166
    .308 mags are the same as .243win
    Put 542 in the search box on the right of :
    https://www.swisswaffen.com/?F=MSO&LP=H11
    if you want to dream

    There's a US made weaver rail scope mount too, same, no idea if these guys export outside the US :
    https://www.precisionreflex.com/bases/151-sig-542-mount.html
    https://www.thecountryshed.com/02-542-01.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cool. Before doing anything i Will make sure i can order them. Probably i have to do the whole thing using a gunstore as middleman.

      I Will make phone calls tomorrow.

      Thank you

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I don t know if in Italy you can change the iron sights
    You can, but you'd be moronic to do so.
    t. Italian.
    >200 rounds for them total
    Bullshit, .243 is an hunting round and you can own 1500.
    Also
    >caring about the legal limit
    Literally no one respects that.
    Lurk 2 years before posting.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    50 rounds for the Sig, 50 rounds for the Ruger, 100 for the CZ.

    Do NOT sell that SIG. scope it if you can. The 5 shot mag is perfectly fine and the .243 is a b***hin’ little cartridge out to 500-600 meters.
    Think like a sniper, and make every shot count if it comes to that. Have fun zapping homiez with AKs at ranges that they can only shake their fists at you in impotent rage.

    The Ruger is your bedside HD gun. Simple, reliable and packs a wallop at indoor ranges.
    The CZ is your car and carry sidearm.

    Don’t sweat the magazine crap. Just being armed puts you at somewhere like the 90th percentile, (especially in UberCuckedEuropa).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for the advice. I think your ammo distribuzione makes lots of sense all things considered.

      I Will treasure my bubba boomer gun and try to add some mags.

      Thanks to all of you guys. You have been very helpful now I must go to sleep It Is quite late here and tomorrow Is gonna be another convoluted day.

      Good night

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i can only have 200 rounds for all of them
    Wtf.

  13. 1 month ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    First off, an obligatory sorry for your loss. Losing a family member is never easy, especially your father.

    Secondly, all 3 of the remaining guns are good or excellent.
    The SP101 is a good carry revolver. I don't know how the laws for getting a carry permit are in your area, but if it's possible to get one then you should. SP101s are very durable and reliable, although I would recommend mostly shooting .38 Special to ease into it, since full power .357 out of a gun that small would be very challenging for a beginner.
    The CZ-75 is an excellent all-round handgun that can protect the home and be comfortable for range shooting. Shouldn't have too much recoil, and ergonomics are great.
    The Sig is really interesting, a rare gun in the US. Top shelf cold-war-era quality as well. Being in .243 is a slight complication since it's a less popular caliber than .308, but turn lemons into lemonade. The upside is that .243 has a little bit less recoil and flatter trajectory, so you can use it to learn how to shoot a rifle. The diopter sights take a little getting used to, but if you can find somebody to help show you the basics they work very well once you know what you are doing.
    It may be possible to convert the rifle to .308 down the line, but that's a fairly advanced gunsmith job that requires replacing the barrel. It's something I would recommend asking around about, but I would expect it to be relatively expensive if you find someone who can do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bump. Hope to see you come back with an update about getting out to the range with one of them someday, spaghetti fren

      This Place Is unusually kind. I am doing my best, trying to help my mom and the son of my Brother. Trying to Better the situation. I think everything Is gonna world in the end. Don't worry about me.

      I Will keep you updated. Thank you guys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm an italian gun owner as well, if I wasn't riddled with social anxiety and had the money to buy ammo only once per 3 months I would've invited you to shoot on my range. All the best and remember any modification you make to a gun will hurt its resale value if you're going to find yourself in the future in a situation where you need to have cash quick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The guy didnt want the rifle because of the caliber...so reselling isn't an option

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bump. Hope to see you come back with an update about getting out to the range with one of them someday, spaghetti fren

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